Sony: 3.2m PS3s Sold During Q2 27m PS3s Sold To Date

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#1 jakarai
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When Sony axed the price of the PS3 by $100 in mid-August, everyone expected PS3 sales to skyrocket - and sky rocket they did, according to Sony. In their latest financial reports, Sony has announced that they've sold 3.2 million PS3s during Q2 at the new $299 price point, while the PS3 as a whole has sold 27 million units to date worldwide. Their data suggests they also outsold the 360 worldwide during Q2, and nearly matched the Wii at 2.1 and 3.5 million units respectively.

Overall though, Sony's game division lost $654 million, despite the increase in hardware sold. This is likely due to the fact that, with the introduction of the 120GB SKU, they are once again selling the console at a loss. Sony also pointed at dwindling PS2 sales, falling Viao sales, and the appreciation of the Japanese yen as reasons for the loss.

Though their games division is rapidly closing in on $5 billion lost this generation, congrats to Sony for reaching a new milestone with PS3 sales! At 27 million units sold, this puts them cleanly past the GameCube, which many have been all to quick to draw comparisons to. The PS3 has also surpassed the original XBox at this price point too. We'll have to wait until Microsoft and Nintendo publish their quarterly reports to find out exactly how accurate these numbers are.

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When Sony axed the price of the PS3 by $100 in mid-August, everyone expected PS3 sales to skyrocket - and sky rocket they did, according to Sony. In their latest financial reports, Sony has announced that they've sold 3.2 million PS3s during Q2 at the new $299 price point, while the PS3 as a whole has sold 27 million units to date worldwide. Their data suggests they also outsold the 360 worldwide during Q2, and nearly matched the Wii at 2.1 and 3.5 million units respectively.

Overall though, Sony's game division lost $654 million, despite the increase in hardware sold. This is likely due to the fact that, with the introduction of the 120GB SKU, they are once again selling the console at a loss. Sony also pointed at dwindling PS2 sales, falling Viao sales, and the appreciation of the Japanese yen as reasons for the loss.

Though their games division is rapidly closing in on $5 billion lost this generation, congrats to Sony for reaching a new milestone with PS3 sales! At 27 million units sold, this puts them cleanly past the GameCube, which many have been all to quick to draw comparisons to. The PS3 has also surpassed the original XBox at this price point too. We'll have to wait until Microsoft and Nintendo publish their quarterly reports to find out exactly how accurate these numbers are.

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nearly 34 million for the xbox 360 http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6237794.html nintendo wii 52 million, but these figures are from july http://kotaku.com/5326205/nintendo-reveals-lifetime-wii-dsi-sales-figures judging by those figures the 360's over the ps3 lead is now less than 7 million, so slowly but surely the ps3 is catching up, good news for SONY, looks like they are on there way back.
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#3 SolidTy
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I realize M$ just hit 34 Million, I was wondering what the new Wii and PS3 numbers were.

27 million PS3's? I guess it's 7 millionish.

The good thing about this competition, is prices and deals will be coming up for all gamers.

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The Comparison's to the GC and Xbox were silly, because those figures were after 5 + years, the PS3 isn't even 3 yet!

This generation is a strange one to compare to previous Gens, and that Wii sure made things even stranger...crazy.

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#5 ___gamemaster__
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if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?

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#6 TreeMoBMoney
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So the 360 is at 34 million and the PS3 is at 27 million. If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 7 or 8 million before the PS3 even hit the market. This means that the PS3 has not managed to catch up to the 360 one bit in the 3+ years since Sony released it. We're almost 5 years into this gen. It looks like Sony is going to finish this race as #3.

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Wait what?
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#7 TreeMoBMoney
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if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?

___gamemaster__
I think it would be fair to say that.
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#8 jasopan
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woo so ps3 has caught up in sales (almost) but are taking a loss?
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if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?

___gamemaster__
No. It would be mean that the 360 has still sold 6M units more. :?
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So the 360 is at 34 million and the PS3 is at 27 million. If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 7 or 8 million before the PS3 even hit the market. This means that the PS3 has not managed to catch up to the 360 one bit in the 3+ years since Sony released it. We're almost 5 years into this gen. It looks like Sony is going to finish this race as #3.

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Yeah, that pretty much sums it up... good luck explaining it to aku and It_is_wut_it_is

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No we are almost 4 years into this gen since Xbox 360 was released in Nov 2005

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if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?

___gamemaster__

Hey Gamemaster, can you please tell me what fight is your sig from?

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[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?

IronBass
No. It would be mean that the 360 has still sold 6M units more. :?

Seriously. There is no 2 ways to read sales numbers. 6mil more is 6mil more, regardless of how you want to slice it.
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#14 Menalque2
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Didn't a Sony spokesperson say production costs for PS3 dropped by 70% launch at around the time of the price cut? Were Sony lying again?

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?

II_Seraphim_II
No. It would be mean that the 360 has still sold 6M units more. :?

Seriously. There is no 2 ways to read sales numbers. 6mil more is 6mil more, regardless of how you want to slice it.

i read read it as 34 million/4 years, and then 27million/3 years Using this logic the 360 has sold 8.5 million consoles on average per year, while the ps3 sells 9 million consoles on average per year. The ps3 is already ahead.
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Didn't a Sony spokesperson say production costs for PS3 dropped by 70% launch at around the time of the price cut? Were Sony lying again?

Menalque2

Geez, get a few links before you start pointing fingers, I honestly don't know what to believe without links to read. I also don't know what it would matter what the PS3 production costs would be. Who cares, except for Sony.

You want to know what's impressive, how close this sales war is considering the multiplats available, the year headstart, and the HIGHLY priced PS3. Those are crazy hurdles yet still they have been effectively managed to get 27 million units out there. While that's "Last Place to fanboy's", it's impressive when you consider the variables.

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="IronBass"] No. It would be mean that the 360 has still sold 6M units more. :?fuchuzz
Seriously. There is no 2 ways to read sales numbers. 6mil more is 6mil more, regardless of how you want to slice it.

i read read it as 34 million/4 years, and then 27million/3 years Using this logic the 360 has sold 8.5 million consoles on average per year, while the ps3 sells 9 million consoles on average per year. The ps3 is already ahead.

i dont know what school you were taught but at mine they taught us that 34 is a higher number then 27!!!!

i do actually understand what you mean but if you were to go on them numbers solds per year, it would take14 years for the ps3 to catch the 360, and unfortunately i dont think that sony will realy be supporting the ps3 in that time

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?

II_Seraphim_II

No. It would be mean that the 360 has still sold 6M units more. :?

Seriously. There is no 2 ways to read sales numbers. 6mil more is 6mil more, regardless of how you want to slice it.

this is system wars not fair wars.

the 360 still has out sold the ps3 any way you cut it up.

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Don't you guys all agree that, if you think about it, comparing PS3 sales directly to 360 sales is a pretty odd thing to do. It's like a race where one of the cars starts a minute after another. If that happens do you consider the relative postions of the car to see who's doing better or doyou consider the lap times? I don't understand why lemmings are always proud to claim they're still in the lead, while a per annum analysis of sales is what's actually telling who's doing better.

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#20 fuchuzz
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[QUOTE="fuchuzz"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Seriously. There is no 2 ways to read sales numbers. 6mil more is 6mil more, regardless of how you want to slice it.p0g0theclown

i read read it as 34 million/4 years, and then 27million/3 years Using this logic the 360 has sold 8.5 million consoles on average per year, while the ps3 sells 9 million consoles on average per year. The ps3 is already ahead.

i dont know what school you were taught but at mine they taught us that 34 is a higher number then 27!!!!

i do actually understand what you mean but if you were to go on them numbers solds per year, it would take14 years for the ps3 to catch the 360, and unfortunately i dont think that sony will realy be supporting the ps3 in that time

Well, i was just saying ,there is a second side to this argument, while you cant argue with the raw data, you can argue that the ps3 is a better selling console using averages.
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Geez, get a few links before you start pointing fingers, I honestly don't know what to believe without links to read. I also don't know what it would matter what the PS3 production costs would be. Who cares, except for Sony.

You want to know what's impressive, how close this sales war is considering the multiplats available, the year headstart, and the HIGHLY priced PS3. Those are crazy hurdles yet still they have been effectively managed to get 27 million units out there. While that's "Last Place to fanboy's", it's impressive when you consider the variables.

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Ah yes, found the link.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-per-cent-report

but also found this

http://www.edge-online.com/news/sony-to-sell-ps3-slim-at-a-loss

Both of these are from a couple of months back, but I obviously never read the other story.

Anyway, next time I'll remember to rigorously cite my references, because this is place obviously on the same level as literature or journalism and it's not as if this is just informal forum chat. I could be done for libel or something. :roll:

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#22 SolidTy
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Don't you guys all agree that, if you think about it, comparing PS3 sales directly to 360 sales is a pretty odd thing to do. It's like a race where one of the cars starts a minute after another. If that happens do you consider the relative postions of the car to see who's doing better or doyou consider the lap times? I don't understand why lemmings are always proud to claim they're still in the lead, while a per annum analysis of sales is what's actually telling who's doing better.

NielsNL

You make an excellent point, but it is bewildering to SW.

It's like explaining Fire to a Cave Bear.Luckily, I'm sitting right behind the bear, and I understand.

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#23 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Geez, get a few links before you start pointing fingers, I honestly don't know what to believe without links to read. I also don't know what it would matter what the PS3 production costs would be. Who cares, except for Sony.

You want to know what's impressive, how close this sales war is considering the multiplats available, the year headstart, and the HIGHLY priced PS3. Those are crazy hurdles yet still they have been effectively managed to get 27 million units out there. While that's "Last Place to fanboy's", it's impressive when you consider the variables.

Menalque2

Ah yes, found the link.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/ps3-manufacturing-costs-down-70-per-cent-report

but also found this

http://www.edge-online.com/news/sony-to-sell-ps3-slim-at-a-loss

Both of these are from a couple of months back, but I obviously never read the other story.

Anyway, next time I'll remember to rigorously cite my references, because this is place obviously on the same level as literature or journalism and it's not as if this is just informal forum chat. I could be done for libel or something. :roll:

No, it's not about Libel, it's that I can't agree or disagree. All I can do is read your post and scratch my head. I have no notes or data to read. :P

Thanks for the links though, now I can go digging around in there.

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The PS3 will never catch up to the 360 this generation. I am sure with the PS3's 10 year life plan, it will sell really well in the late years of it's life (like the PS2 is), but don't expect it to out sell the 360 anytime soon. The PS3 is dead last and will be dead last this generation - deal with it.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"] if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?

No. It would be mean that the 360 has still sold 6M units more. :?

Yes, but it would mean 360 and PS3 have sold at the exact same rate meaning, if it weren't for the year headstart, it would be a tie.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"] if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?Indie_Hitman
No. It would be mean that the 360 has still sold 6M units more. :?

Yes, but it would mean 360 and PS3 have sold at the exact same rate meaning, if it weren't for the year headstart, it would be a tie.

But they didnt launch at the same time and their not at a tie. The 360 has sold more and the gap isnt closing, these are facts not what ifs.
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#27 Malta_1980
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PS3 is surely picking up in terms of sales...

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#28 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="IronBass"] No. It would be mean that the 360 has still sold 6M units more. :?G-O-M-J
Yes, but it would mean 360 and PS3 have sold at the exact same rate meaning, if it weren't for the year headstart, it would be a tie.

But they didnt launch at the same time and their not at a tie. The 360 has sold more and the gap isnt closing, these are facts not what ifs.

The Xbox is ahead regardless. The Wii launched a day after the PS3, and as doubled it's sales.

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[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="IronBass"] No. It would be mean that the 360 has still sold 6M units more. :?G-O-M-J
Yes, but it would mean 360 and PS3 have sold at the exact same rate meaning, if it weren't for the year headstart, it would be a tie.

But they didnt launch at the same time and their not at a tie. The 360 has sold more and the gap isnt closing, these are facts not what ifs.

The fact is the gap has neither increased nor decreased meaning theyve sold at the same rate. You couldnt say a particular beer was more popular than another because its sold more. One of the beers may be over 200 years older.
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Cool so its like 5 million behind.
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#31 themyth01
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woo so ps3 has caught up in sales (almost) but are taking a loss? jasopan
If 7 million is almost, then yes. Indeed they already posted a loss last year too, they haven't made a single dime off of the PS3 since the PS3 released, wonder how it'll affect the decisions they make for their next machine.

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The thing is, Sony have now reached the point where their PlayStation 3 clearly offers the best goods for that price!

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#33 sikanderahmed
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so ps3 is still 7 mill behind 360? just like it was more then an year ago lol

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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Don't you guys all agree that, if you think about it, comparing PS3 sales directly to 360 sales is a pretty odd thing to do. It's like a race where one of the cars starts a minute after another. If that happens do you consider the relative postions of the car to see who's doing better or doyou consider the lap times? I don't understand why lemmings are always proud to claim they're still in the lead, while a per annum analysis of sales is what's actually telling who's doing better.

SolidTy

You make an excellent point, but it is bewildering to SW.

It's like explaining Fire to a Cave Bear.Luckily, I'm sitting right behind the bear, and I understand.

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Actually his analogy is flawed, because we don't care for speed in this case, be it of sales or anything else. What's important is the amount sold.
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Don't you guys all agree that, if you think about it, comparing PS3 sales directly to 360 sales is a pretty odd thing to do. It's like a race where one of the cars starts a minute after another. If that happens do you consider the relative postions of the car to see who's doing better or doyou consider the lap times? I don't understand why lemmings are always proud to claim they're still in the lead, while a per annum analysis of sales is what's actually telling who's doing better.

NielsNL

It's actually more like a race between a turtle and a rabbit with jet packs. Odd huh? The story goes on like this:

The turtle and the rabbit have been asked to be in a race, in which they are going to use jet packs. They gladly accept the challenge. However there is a rule: they can choose to get a one year head start if they choose to not use the jetpacks. The turtle understands that he obviously cant outrun a rabbit, even with jetpacks so he decides to take the one year head start so he wont be outclassed. He expects to lose anyway. The rabbit chooses to wait the year, so he can crush the turtle with a ground shaking victory. The turtle enters the race but realises he has problems with his shoes. They have been manufactured wrong! He could run back to the start and get new shoes but he needs to get as far as he can before the rabbit enters the race. He keeps on running.

One year goes by, and the turtle has managed to get a very respectable lead, even when his shoes dont work properly. The observers see how the turtle struggles in the race and its clear that the turtle is no match for a rabbit with jetpacks. Everybody expects the rabbit's going to win in the end.

So, it's the rabbits turn to enter the race but things aren't going exactly like plan. He too struggles and realises he doesn't even know how to use the jet pack. It's slowing him down because of its extra weight but he doesn't throw it away. No. It's possible that he figures out how to use it along the way. So both racers have entered the race and now, 4 years later, the turtle is still in the lead. The turtle is going to do what no one thought was possible, to beat the rabbit to the finish line.

So what does this story tells us? The turtle sacrified 'hardware' so he could have a chance against the rabbit. The rabbit on the other hand waits for the 'hardware', but the rabbit's an idiot since he can't figure out how to use a **** jetpack! They both understood the terms of the race and they went different paths. The PS3 could have entered the race one year earlier but Sony wanted their racer to have the 'jetpacks'. Its a fair race and the 'turtle' is still 7 million units ahead.

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#36 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"] Yes, but it would mean 360 and PS3 have sold at the exact same rate meaning, if it weren't for the year headstart, it would be a tie.

That's a big if. And an irrelevant one, since the actual reality it's different.
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#37 h575309
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I think its pretty likely that MS will always be ahead of Sony as far as launches are concerned. Does neone doubt the new xbox will be out before the new playstation? At the end of the day, what matters is the Wii is in the clear lead, and 360 has a clear lead in America. Thats all that matters to me since thats where I live.

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#38 lhughey
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to put things in perspective, Sony sold 2.4M PS3s last year (3rd quarter) and this year (3rd quarter) they sold 3.2M. Not bad at all. Keep in mind that the 360 doubled its sales from last year (3rd quarter)
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#39 coasterguy65
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It really doesn't matter if the PS3 is selling more or the 360 is selling more. What matters is Sony is still loosing money on every PS3 they sell, quarter after quarter. While Microsoft and Nintendo are both making money on their consoles. What I worry about is Sony in the past has canceled products that are not profitable, which any company should do. Hopefully they just don't stop making the PS3 one day. I doubt they will but it might make them think twice before coming out with the PS4. At least this last quarter looks better than any of the ones before it thanks to the Slim and a price cut.

Also to all the people who sit there and state that the PS3 would be ahead if the 360 didn't have a year head start..so what...Nintendo started pretty much at the exact time the PS3 did, but had no problem closing the gap and exceeding it. If Sony would have offered a good product at a reasonable price for it's first 3 years of existence there wouldn't have been a gap, the PlayStation name itself would have sold consoles.

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#40 Racer850
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Cool so its like 5 million behind.TintedEyes
Eh 360 34million, ps3 27 million, now i don't know about you but thats 7 million not 5 million.
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#41 Racer850
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"] Yes, but it would mean 360 and PS3 have sold at the exact same rate meaning, if it weren't for the year headstart, it would be a tie.

That's a big if. And an irrelevant one, since the actual reality it's different.

Yep no matter how the fanboys spin it the reality is 360 is ahead by 7 million.
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#42 sinseers
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Don't you guys all agree that, if you think about it, comparing PS3 sales directly to 360 sales is a pretty odd thing to do. It's like a race where one of the cars starts a minute after another. If that happens do you consider the relative postions of the car to see who's doing better or doyou consider the lap times? I don't understand why lemmings are always proud to claim they're still in the lead, while a per annum analysis of sales is what's actually telling who's doing better.

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The thing about it is that the Wii doesn't have to be compared to the 360 in relative terms even launching a year later, but the PS3 somehow has to be to justify how far behind in total sales it is compared to the 360.

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#43 Solid_Tango
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So the 360 is at 34 million and the PS3 is at 27 million. If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 7 or 8 million before the PS3 even hit the market. This means that the PS3 has not managed to catch up to the 360 one bit in the 3+ years since Sony released it. We're almost 5 years into this gen. It looks like Sony is going to finish this race as #3.

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5 years? wtf? more like 3
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#44 Supabul
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No wonder games are so expensive,

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#45 aaronmullan
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That's QUITE alot. PS3 is catching up alright.
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#46 Nidget
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Ouch, poor Sony
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#47 aaronmullan
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Ouch, poor SonyNidget
So, they sell 3 million and it's bad for 'em?
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#48 sinseers
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The PS3 is up YOY in total sales now right?

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#49 RedruM_I
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The PS3 is up YOY in total sales now right?

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I think they have always been up in YOY sales as far as I remember.
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#50 ToScA-
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No we are almost 4 years into this gen since Xbox 360 was released in Nov 2005

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Didn't you hear? This gen started when PS3 launched.