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#1 tango90101
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will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

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#2 LongshotX2
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M$ was the creator behind homebrews?

:lol: 

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Sony already did this with the PS2. It was caled "Net Yaroze".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

 

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"Taking a cue from Microsoft's XNA Game Studios, Sony's Phil Harrison recently said in an interview that Sony would be willing to open up the PS3 to independent developers. (Yes, we know, the Net Yaroze did this years ago, but nobody cared back then. Plus, the homebrew community today is able to produce software that's better than what a lot of commercial entities come up with.)"

you know what net yaroze is ? the playstation version of XNA except it was on ps1...
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this was being done back in the day on ps1 before MS even got in the game noobJack-Napier

 

  quoted for truth.  The sourceS are available on the net.   

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this was being done back in the day on ps1 before MS even got in the game noobJack-Napier

:lol: Exactly! some people really don't have a clue:| 

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#8 Mass_Effect
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This is just as embarrassing as someone saying Microsoft invented the Internet
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will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

tango90101
wow nice way to self own your self again tango. sony been doin homebrew way before MS even thought of making a console.
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This thread is silly.  PS1 had that for christ sake.  PC has has ALWAYS had it.  YThe point you are trying to make is highly flawed.
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will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

tango90101

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

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will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

tango90101

Uhmmm...Sony offered this when the PS2 came out.  You could buy a special edition, linux-based PS2 (special order) that came with simpler dev software so that you could make your own games when you weren't playing regular PS2 titles.   However, when Sony's online plans got pushed way back it pretty much killed any support there was.  But a few people did buy it. 

So if anybody is copying anyone, MS is copying Sony.

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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

Dire_Weasel

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

Dire_Weasel

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol:

Wait , don't tell me he is HDguy_basic ?
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#15 alfy13
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something tells me that tc will not be coming back to this thread :(

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Why do I do it?  Why?  One of these days I'm going to teach myself to never open a thread started by tango.
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this should be bumped for all eternity
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This thread delivers.
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#19 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

Dire_Weasel

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

how many user created games are on the ps3..?

yep... none..

xbox live?  marble blast is one...

yep, sony is "first"....:roll:

 

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#20 tango90101
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something tells me that tc will not be coming back to this thread :(

alfy13

i'm back...had to go to lunch..

so; where are the user created ps3 games if sony was "first"...?

better yet; ANY user created games available for distribution through PSN...

any one....

"first"?  riiiiight...:lol:

 

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Must be apart of their plan GAME 3.0
"user created content"
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#22 tango90101
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[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

alfy13

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

QFT

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

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#23 Mass_Effect
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c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

tango90101

c'mon...give me one user created game on XBL...

just ONE...:lol:

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#24 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

Mass_Effect

c'mon...give me one user created game on XBL...

just ONE...:lol:

um...Marble Blast...

created using XNA... by an indie...

thanks for playing.. ;)

pwnt.

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#25 Mass_Effect
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[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

tango90101

c'mon...give me one user created game on XBL...

just ONE...:lol:

um...Marble Blast...

created using XNA... by an indie...

thanks for playing.. ;)

pwnt.

I didn't know that. I admit ownage.

However, indie games were on PS2

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[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

tango90101

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

QFT

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

LOL...are you joking...so your comparing how many user created games are made for a system thats been out for a year and a half to a system that has been out for a few months.  THe concept of user created games was done well before the 360 and Xbox so its far from an MS idea, just because MS is the first to implement it in the new generation of consoles doesnt mean that they are the first to come up with the idea.

Dude you really should stop doing this to yourself or atleast read your articles before you post.

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#27 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

Mass_Effect

c'mon...give me one user created game on XBL...

just ONE...:lol:

um...Marble Blast...

created using XNA... by an indie...

thanks for playing.. ;)

pwnt.

I didn't know that. I admit ownage.

However, indie games were on PS2

that's cool...

this is about indie games coming to online distribution.  apparently the rest of the cows missed this point as well... as usual.

at least you had the cajones to admit it.... :)

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this was being done back in the day on ps1 before MS even got in the game noobJack-Napier

:lol:

 My feelings exactly.

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how many user created games are on the ps3..?

yep... none..

xbox live? marble blast is one...

yep, sony is "first"....:roll:

 

tango90101

 

What broken logic you have!

  

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#30 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

Javy03

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

QFT

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

LOL...are you joking...so your comparing how many user created games are made for a system thats been out for a year and a half to a system that has been out for a few months.  THe concept of user created games was done well before the 360 and Xbox so its far from an MS idea, just because MS is the first to implement it in the new generation of consoles doesnt mean that they are the first to come up with the idea.

Dude you really should stop doing this to yourself or atleast read your articles before you post.

still waiting for ANY ps game, user created, available for online distribution....

you really need to understand the piont of the article before attempting to "own" anyone..

you look even sillier than usual...

so what user created game is available for download from PSN? 

 

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#31 Javy03
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[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

tango90101

c'mon...give me one user created game on XBL...

just ONE...:lol:

um...Marble Blast...

created using XNA... by an indie...

thanks for playing.. ;)

pwnt.

I didn't know that. I admit ownage.

However, indie games were on PS2

that's cool...

this is about indie games coming to online distribution.  apparently the rest of the cows missed this point as well... as usual.

at least you had the cajones to admit it.... :)

No this is about indie games being made for a console.  Dont try and specify online distribution and make up a category so your beloved MS can win.  The point is getting indie developers to make games for a console is not a new idea, the method for release has changed but the idea is still the same and MS did nothing more then take an idea that Sony and others were already doing and allow its distribution via their online, far from innovation.

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You're arguing with Tango.  No one on this site moves the goalposts more than he does.  I'm telling you, it's a lost cause.
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still waiting for ANY ps game, user created, available for online distribution....

you really need to understand the piont of the article before attempting to "own" anyone..

you look even sillier than usual...

so what user created game is available for download from PSN?

 

tango90101

 

The Playstation 3 has been out for 5 months. Even IF users have been making games the day the console launched (which is about a likely as users making games on the 360 on it's launch), it would take them longer then 5 months.

Games take time, they don't just pop up out of nowhere 

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will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

tango90101


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how many user created games are on the ps3..?

yep... none..

xbox live?  marble blast is one...

yep, sony is "first"....:roll:

 

tango90101

Marble blast isn't "user created". Garage games is huge company(one of biggest in indie/casual segment). Fl0W is actualy more "homebrew" than Marble Blast. 

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#36 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

Javy03

c'mon...give me one user created game on XBL...

just ONE...:lol:

um...Marble Blast...

created using XNA... by an indie...

thanks for playing.. ;)

pwnt.

I didn't know that. I admit ownage.

However, indie games were on PS2

that's cool...

this is about indie games coming to online distribution.  apparently the rest of the cows missed this point as well... as usual.

at least you had the cajones to admit it.... :)

No this is about indie games being made for a console.  Dont try and specify online distribution and make up a category so your beloved MS can win.  The point is getting indie developers to make games for a console is not a new idea, the method for release has changed but the idea is still the same and MS did nothing more then take an idea that Sony and others were already doing and allow its distribution via their online, far from innovation.

the user created games are not going to bluray or dvd9..

this is the entire benefit.  low overhead, good returns.

so... stop babbling and tell me what user created game is available from PSN? 

just ONE....

online distribution if the future for indie developers... and yep.. ms did it first...

with sony still trying to play catchup...;)

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Many games made by hobbyists on the Net Yaroze were released on various demo discs that came along with the Official PlayStation Magazine from the late 1990s up to 2004. The last Official PlayStation Magazine UK issue, number 108, featured a compilation with many Net Yaroze games. A regular PlayStation disc, featuring a number of user-developed games, was produced by SCEE and sent to PAL zone Yaroze owners.

Some of these games are:

Between The Eyes Blitter Boy (Chris Chadwick) Bouncer 2 Clone Dog Tale Gravitation Haunted Maze Hover Car Racing The Incredible Coneman Mah Jongg (Gerhard Rittenhofer) Psychon Pushy 2 Rocks'n'Gems (Gerhard Rittenhofer) Terra Incognita Total Soccer






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#38 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

how many user created games are on the ps3..?

yep... none..

xbox live?  marble blast is one...

yep, sony is "first"....:roll:

 

AdrianWerner

Marble blast isn't "user created". Garage games is huge company(one of biggest in indie/casual segment). Fl0W is actualy more "homebrew" than Marble Blast. 

sorry, that's not what OXM is stating...

they stated "user created, using XNA...."

mybe you know more than them...;)

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

tango90101

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

QFT

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

LOL...are you joking...so your comparing how many user created games are made for a system thats been out for a year and a half to a system that has been out for a few months.  THe concept of user created games was done well before the 360 and Xbox so its far from an MS idea, just because MS is the first to implement it in the new generation of consoles doesnt mean that they are the first to come up with the idea.

Dude you really should stop doing this to yourself or atleast read your articles before you post.

still waiting for ANY ps game, user created, available for online distribution....

you really need to understand the piont of the article before attempting to "own" anyone..

you look even sillier than usual...

so what user created game is available for download from PSN? 

 

Actually I dont try to "own" anybody here, that is your game and thats why you look so silly.  Its not about who did it first THIS GEN. The point is that indie developers making games for home consoles was done well before the 360 or even the Xbox.  Live has been out for a year and some change and all you have to show for it as far as I know is one user created game.  And you assume its their idea because they did it first this gen.  Sorry but all MS did was change the distrubition method for an idea that Sony was doing while MS was making software, not innovation.

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

tango90101

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

QFT

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

LOL...are you joking...so your comparing how many user created games are made for a system thats been out for a year and a half to a system that has been out for a few months.  THe concept of user created games was done well before the 360 and Xbox so its far from an MS idea, just because MS is the first to implement it in the new generation of consoles doesnt mean that they are the first to come up with the idea.

Dude you really should stop doing this to yourself or atleast read your articles before you post.

still waiting for ANY ps game, user created, available for online distribution....

you really need to understand the piont of the article before attempting to "own" anyone..

you look even sillier than usual...

so what user created game is available for download from PSN? 

 

 

Are you for real? Or are you just trying to save yourself the embarassment? The whole point of your thread was to prove the MS was the first to provide support for indie developers. You got owned on that. And now you are trying to justify your point by saying that X360 has Indie content while PS3 does not? Use your brains....oh, my bad. You don't have one.

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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

Javy03

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

QFT

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

LOL...are you joking...so your comparing how many user created games are made for a system thats been out for a year and a half to a system that has been out for a few months.  THe concept of user created games was done well before the 360 and Xbox so its far from an MS idea, just because MS is the first to implement it in the new generation of consoles doesnt mean that they are the first to come up with the idea.

Dude you really should stop doing this to yourself or atleast read your articles before you post.

still waiting for ANY ps game, user created, available for online distribution....

you really need to understand the piont of the article before attempting to "own" anyone..

you look even sillier than usual...

so what user created game is available for download from PSN? 

 

Actually I dont try to "own" anybody here, that is your game and thats why you look so silly.  Its not about who did it first THIS GEN. The point is that indie developers making games for home consoles was done well before the 360 or even the Xbox.  Live has been out for a year and some change and all you have to show for it as far as I know is one user created game.  And you assume its their idea because they did it first this gen.  Sorry but all MS did was change the distrubition method for an idea that Sony was doing while MS was making software, not innovation.

online distribution is the future...

 and ms did if first...

just for the record..;)

 

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Yaroze was so expensive, and was hard to deliver alot of this content to other users. But MS had been supporting the homebrew community before Sony ever got into gaming, well let me rephrase that. Before they ever made there own console, since MS, and Sony once made a Japanese console together called the MSX. But Sony was the first to do it on a console, while MS had been involved by providing certain tools to the Windows community long before they made there own tools(XNA). MS by far right now has the better tools for Indie devs, because soon alot of there games will be made available for both Xbox Live Marketplace, and as well on GFW Live Marketplace. They are really trying also to get PC game sales to come back up, since they haven't done so well like in years past. So in conclusion, Sony made the first Homebrew kit for a console, and 2 MS just capitalized by making the best tools for the 360, and let's not forget also the PC.
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It's not even about who did it first.  I'm wondering who'll do it better in the next couple years or so.

So far, MS is ahead of the curve.  There are already development tools and an organized program.  I'd be interested to see what Sony has in store. 

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#44 Javy03
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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

tango90101

c'mon...give me one user created game on XBL...

just ONE...:lol:

um...Marble Blast...

created using XNA... by an indie...

thanks for playing.. ;)

pwnt.

I didn't know that. I admit ownage.

However, indie games were on PS2

that's cool...

this is about indie games coming to online distribution.  apparently the rest of the cows missed this point as well... as usual.

at least you had the cajones to admit it.... :)

No this is about indie games being made for a console.  Dont try and specify online distribution and make up a category so your beloved MS can win.  The point is getting indie developers to make games for a console is not a new idea, the method for release has changed but the idea is still the same and MS did nothing more then take an idea that Sony and others were already doing and allow its distribution via their online, far from innovation.

the user created games are not going to bluray or dvd9..

this is the entire benefit.  low overhead, good returns.

so... stop babbling and tell me what user created game is available from PSN? 

just ONE....

online distribution if the future for indie developers... and yep.. ms did it first...

with sony still trying to play catchup...;)

Again online distribution for games was not done by MS first.  It has been on computers for a long time, when will you get it that MS hasnt innovated anything but taken already known and used technology and put it to work.  Indie games have been made for console for the PS1 and PS2 because online was not standard for those consoles but they started it and online distribution of these games has been done on PCs for years.  MS putting two already done ideas together does not make it innovation.

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

tango90101

c'mon...give me one user created game on XBL...

just ONE...:lol:

um...Marble Blast...

created using XNA... by an indie...

thanks for playing.. ;)

pwnt.

I didn't know that. I admit ownage.

However, indie games were on PS2

that's cool...

this is about indie games coming to online distribution.  apparently the rest of the cows missed this point as well... as usual.

at least you had the cajones to admit it.... :)

No this is about indie games being made for a console.  Dont try and specify online distribution and make up a category so your beloved MS can win.  The point is getting indie developers to make games for a console is not a new idea, the method for release has changed but the idea is still the same and MS did nothing more then take an idea that Sony and others were already doing and allow its distribution via their online, far from innovation.

the user created games are not going to bluray or dvd9..

this is the entire benefit.  low overhead, good returns.

so... stop babbling and tell me what user created game is available from PSN? 

just ONE....

online distribution if the future for indie developers... and yep.. ms did it first...

with sony still trying to play catchup...;)

 

Blast Factor is indie PS3 game, financed by developer themselves(who are separate entity from Sony) and then put as downloadable game

MS didn't do it first. they just copied Pcgaming once again and so far XBLA completely fails to deliver in indie segment compared to PC. 

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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

oceansandearth

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

QFT

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

LOL...are you joking...so your comparing how many user created games are made for a system thats been out for a year and a half to a system that has been out for a few months.  THe concept of user created games was done well before the 360 and Xbox so its far from an MS idea, just because MS is the first to implement it in the new generation of consoles doesnt mean that they are the first to come up with the idea.

Dude you really should stop doing this to yourself or atleast read your articles before you post.

still waiting for ANY ps game, user created, available for online distribution....

you really need to understand the piont of the article before attempting to "own" anyone..

you look even sillier than usual...

so what user created game is available for download from PSN? 

 

 

Are you for real? Or are you just trying to save yourself the embarassment? The whole point of your thread was to prove the MS was the first to provide support for indie developers. You got owned on that. And now you are trying to justify your point by saying that X360 has Indie content while PS3 does not? Use your brains....oh, my bad. You don't have one.

no genius... that's only what you chose to key in on... while ignoring the obvious plans for online distribution....

and still when asked fro ONE game on psn..  i get nothing.

are you guys that desperate to "own" comeone that you ignore the obvious...?

okey doke.

nevermind.

 

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

tango90101

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

QFT

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

LOL...are you joking...so your comparing how many user created games are made for a system thats been out for a year and a half to a system that has been out for a few months.  THe concept of user created games was done well before the 360 and Xbox so its far from an MS idea, just because MS is the first to implement it in the new generation of consoles doesnt mean that they are the first to come up with the idea.

Dude you really should stop doing this to yourself or atleast read your articles before you post.

still waiting for ANY ps game, user created, available for online distribution....

you really need to understand the piont of the article before attempting to "own" anyone..

you look even sillier than usual...

so what user created game is available for download from PSN? 

 

Actually I dont try to "own" anybody here, that is your game and thats why you look so silly.  Its not about who did it first THIS GEN. The point is that indie developers making games for home consoles was done well before the 360 or even the Xbox.  Live has been out for a year and some change and all you have to show for it as far as I know is one user created game.  And you assume its their idea because they did it first this gen.  Sorry but all MS did was change the distrubition method for an idea that Sony was doing while MS was making software, not innovation.

online distribution is the future...

 and ms did if first...

just for the record..;)

 

Online on consoles was done before Xbox, Dreamcast and online distribution was done before the Xbox and 360..it was on PCs, try again.

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

how many user created games are on the ps3..?

yep... none..

xbox live?  marble blast is one...

yep, sony is "first"....:roll:

 

tango90101

Marble blast isn't "user created". Garage games is huge company(one of biggest in indie/casual segment). Fl0W is actualy more "homebrew" than Marble Blast. 

sorry, that's not what OXM is stating...

they stated "user created, using XNA...."

mybe you know more than them...;)

Actualy I do know better. Garage games is big company created by ex Dynamix people who specialised in creating tools for developers(mostly their various Torque engine packages). It's not like some lonely person sat in their bedroom and wrote it on their bed. It actualy had normal dev team, and XNA has nothing to do with it, people were making downloadable xbox360 games even before XNA was out. 

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will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

tango90101

I know that HD isn't fooling anyone by changing his argument mid-thread, but there it is, in black and white. Of course, there's not a single mention of online distribution in his original post.

Case closed, HD made another thread that crashed and burned, but he's still here claiming "ownage".

Everyone point and laugh. 

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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

 

 

Javy03

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

QFT

c'mon...give me ONE user created game for sale on PSN...

just ONE...:lol:

LOL...are you joking...so your comparing how many user created games are made for a system thats been out for a year and a half to a system that has been out for a few months.  THe concept of user created games was done well before the 360 and Xbox so its far from an MS idea, just because MS is the first to implement it in the new generation of consoles doesnt mean that they are the first to come up with the idea.

Dude you really should stop doing this to yourself or atleast read your articles before you post.

still waiting for ANY ps game, user created, available for online distribution....

you really need to understand the piont of the article before attempting to "own" anyone..

you look even sillier than usual...

so what user created game is available for download from PSN? 

 

Actually I dont try to "own" anybody here, that is your game and thats why you look so silly.  Its not about who did it first THIS GEN. The point is that indie developers making games for home consoles was done well before the 360 or even the Xbox.  Live has been out for a year and some change and all you have to show for it as far as I know is one user created game.  And you assume its their idea because they did it first this gen.  Sorry but all MS did was change the distrubition method for an idea that Sony was doing while MS was making software, not innovation.

online distribution is the future...

 and ms did if first...

just for the record..;)

 

Online on consoles was done before Xbox, Dreamcast and online distribution was done before the Xbox and 360..it was on PCs, try again.

yes..pc did it first..

but we're talking about consoles.