Sony copies MS and XNA....again...

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#151 jsnepo
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I don't want to flame anyone here but read this...

tango90101 is a stup|d!

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#152 elcoholic
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where are all those xna games? I thought people would be allowed to post them for download?

 I thought it was weird. Ms and free material don't go together. Xna is just another way to make money for them.

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#154 Runningflame570
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especially those who can't distinquish last generation from next gneration console gaming.. eh? ;)

tango90101

Nope, those without reading comprehension and critical thinking skills. ;) 

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#155 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

MS is making a business model out of indie/user created games.

sony is talking..;)

jsnepo

Which coincidentally enough PC indies have done for around a decade now. PS3 came with indie games downloadable around a month after launch, it was nearly half a year for 360 to get similar offerings. Now, PS3 obviously can't be "first" if they launch a year later and indie offerings come to 360 half a year later but on a launch comparison PS3 was once again..first.

See the problems with your post?

Btw, I'm bookmarking this too..way too funny. Too bad we can't get posters custom tags like Neogaf (where you actually would have been banned by now for trolling).

tango90101
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the ps2 was not subscription based...;)

tango90101

The lack of a subscription is an asset, changing the rules again? Heres the rules I'll put in place then:

1) First to do something

2) MUST BE FOR CONSOLES

3) Must not be online distro

4) Must be completely original

5) Must not be subscription-based

6) No more than 10K lines of code

7) Includes letter "X" in the title

8) Programming team limit 10 ppl

See how easy it is to make an argument unwinnable by constantly changing the rules?

 

maybe if you understood the core point, you wouldn't have gone to so much trouble.

this was about the 360 vs. ps3 offering usercreated and indie content via download. (it's the ONLY means ms has stated for releasing indie content)

yet you and the other fanboys had to take ONE sentence out of the entire article to key in on in hopes of looking "cool".

pathetic.

come back when the ps3's PSN lives up to xbox live...;)

Now it is between Xbox 360 and PS3 only. I can't believe the TC is still posting. 

i never said otherwise..

it's the insecure hermits and cows who brought pc into this....

the article made NO mention of pc..and neither did i...

it's okay, hermits and cows own themselves daily...:)

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#156 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

especially those who can't distinquish last generation from next gneration console gaming.. eh? ;)

Runningflame570

Nope, those without reading comprehension and critical thinking skills. ;) 

apparently you know this firsthand...;)

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#157 jigglebilly1983
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Rosencrantz"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

will sony ever get an idea for themselves?

http://crunchgear.com/2007/04/23/sony-says-it-may-allow-indie-developers-for-the-ps3/

apparently they want to offer their gamers the chance to create their own games on the ps3.... much like what MS is offering...

this should be interesting to see what gamers can come up with....:)

Rosencrantz

Poor HD... he doesn't even realize that the article he linked to says that Sony was the first to do this "years ago".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

Keep up the good work HD ... I can always use a laugh in the morning. :lol: 

how many user created games are on the ps3..?

yep... none..

xbox live?  marble blast is one...

yep, sony is "first"....:roll:

 

This is not about who had the first game available for the public.  You accused Sony of copying MS by announcing the ability for the public to make games.  It has been pointed out a number of times that SONY was the first company to offer this feature.

Now. after being made to look like an ignorant fool, you try to change the subject?  That is sad.  If want to have any credibility at all you should admit you were wrong and move on.  By trying to spin your way out of this you only make yourself look even more ridiculous.

poor rosie... try some decaff....:lol:

look we're talking about the ps3 and 360.  I assumed you cows knew it was about online distribution as no user created 360 games are coming on disk that i know of... only online distribution...

it's already been established Marble blast was first using XNA and avail for d/l...

the ps3? none

"ignorant fool"..? funny becuase you report posters for less than that...;)

NO, I report posters for blatant trolling.  I can't help it if GS looked at your behaviour and said it was a bannable offense.  I strill have the angry emails you sent me crying about how unfair it was.  I like to read them for a good laugh from time to time. 

I've been banned a few times, sometimes I think it's unfair, but I've never sent such an agry, irrational email to anyone because of it.

The fact is that, as usual, you made an incorrect claim in order to spew your irrational hatred for Sony.  You have a double standard where it's okay for MS to do something but not okay for Sony to act in the exact same way.  In this case you call it copying...something MS has built their entire fortune on.  But when you think Sony has
copied" somebody you bash them for it.

Meanwhile, when people point out that you are wrong and Sony was the first console maker to do what you accuse them of copying, then you start making up the rules.  SUddenly it's only relevant if it's online on a Saturday afternoon from 2 - 4:30.  Any other time doesn't count.  then when people call you out on this you act like they are stupid for not divining the secret meaning from your original thread.

So I'm not sure which is worse, the fact that you can't admit being wrong (no shame in it, my friend) or that you never seem capable of making a proper thread that people can properly understand.

I'm JiggleBilly1983 and i approved this ownage.

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#158 Runningflame570
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i never said otherwise..

it's the insecure hermits and cows who brought pc into this....

the article made NO mention of pc..and neither did i...

it's okay, hermits and cows own themselves daily...:)

tango90101

Now I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but.."tango90101 has contributed nothing, absolutely nothing to GameSpot."

apparently you know this firsthand...;)

tango90101

I'll just referr the posters here to this:

Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, observation, experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, as a guide to belief and action.

In its exemplary form, it is based on universal intellectual values that transcend subject matter divisions: clarity, accuracy, precision, consistency, relevance, sound evidence, good reasons, depth, breadth, and fairness.

With a vote now, who more exemplifies these qualities? Tango90101 or myself?

 

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#159 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

i never said otherwise..

it's the insecure hermits and cows who brought pc into this....

the article made NO mention of pc..and neither did i...

it's okay, hermits and cows own themselves daily...:)

Runningflame570

Now I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but.."tango90101 has contributed nothing, absolutely nothing to GameSpot."

and how is this on topic?

begone... until the ps3 offers what xbox live does...;)

edit: work's over..time to go home... buh-bye...

please "own" away....:lol:

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#160 jsnepo
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When you say user created content, does it mean games only?

Because I think you know that Linux can be installed on the PS3. And there are a lot of user created apps for Linux.

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#161 Blinblingthing
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this should be bumped for all eternityJack-Napier

Just watch the next time he makes anymore Anti SOny topics

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#162 Runningflame570
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Aww...no fun, hes gone and bailed out on us. Guess he couldn't take anymore.

 

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#163 djxaquaxblue
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[QUOTE="gmastersexay"]

Sony already did this with the PS2. It was caled "Net Yaroze".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

 

djxaquaxblue

 

oh wait!!!...hell yeah i do remember something like that!....the PS2 had some sort of hardware you could hook up to it which was called "TOOL" and you could make your own video games for the PS2. This even came out like a year or two after the PS2 was released. I'll go get a picture of it right now.....

 

here it is

some text

 

 

and you fanboys trying to say Sony is trying to copy...HAH!

 

 

 

 

 

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#164 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="djxaquaxblue"][QUOTE="gmastersexay"]

Sony already did this with the PS2. It was caled "Net Yaroze".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_Yaroze

 

djxaquaxblue

 

oh wait!!!...hell yeah i do remember something like that!....the PS2 had some sort of hardware you could hook up to it which was called "TOOL" and you could make your own video games for the PS2. This even came out like a year or two after the PS2 was released. I'll go get a picture of it right now.....

 

here it is

some text

 

 

and you fanboys trying to say Sony is trying to copy...HAH!

 

 

 

 

 

........is anyone not seeing this?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



 

My guess is Tango didn't :lol:

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#165 snyper1982
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In games industry Indie doesn't mean independent . Every indie dev is independent, but not every independent dev is indie. Independent simply means not owned by some other company. For example Valve and Epic are independent developers, but they sure as hell aren't indie. Indie dev is just very small indepdent developer who makes "do it yourself games" and operates in certain niche.Simply put they are "bedroom game makers'

AdrianWerner

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=indie
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#166 Rockman999
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TC so i guess your right sony doesnt have any original ideas.I dont know is it me but doesnt the original x-box controller look alot like the dreamcast controller???.....hmmm just change the button colors and add another analog, and If you think its wrong for companies to "copy" another company then you obiously should go back to grade school,because thats the way businesses work.In a capitalist economy its called "competition".Could you guess what type of economy we in america(and those in japan,and eastern Europe) live in?
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#167 snyper1982
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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

MS is making a business model out of indie/user created games.

sony is talking..;)

tango90101

Which coincidentally enough PC indies have done for around a decade now. PS3 came with indie games downloadable around a month after launch, it was nearly half a year for 360 to get similar offerings. Now, PS3 obviously can't be "first" if they launch a year later and indie offerings come to 360 half a year later but on a launch comparison PS3 was once again..first.

See the problems with your post?

Btw, I'm bookmarking this too..way too funny. Too bad we can't get posters custom tags like Neogaf (where you actually would have been banned by now for trolling).

tango90101
The new Redcloak

 

the ps2 was not subscription based...;)

tango90101

The lack of a subscription is an asset, changing the rules again? Heres the rules I'll put in place then:

1) First to do something

2) MUST BE FOR CONSOLES

3) Must not be online distro

4) Must be completely original

5) Must not be subscription-based

6) No more than 10K lines of code

7) Includes letter "X" in the title

8) Programming team limit 10 ppl

See how easy it is to make an argument unwinnable by constantly changing the rules?

 

maybe if you understood the core point, you wouldn't have gone to so much trouble.

this was about the 360 vs. ps3 offering usercreated and indie content via download. (it's the ONLY means ms has stated for releasing indie content)

yet you and the other fanboys had to take ONE sentence out of the entire article to key in on in hopes of looking "cool".

pathetic.

come back when the ps3's PSN lives up to xbox live...;)

 

They are keying in on that one point, because that one point was yourONLY point originaly!! It wasn't until after you have gotten owned numerous times that all this other crap got involved. How about this? MS is copying Sony by creating a console period. They are also copying Sony by using dual analog sticks on the controller.... See how completely idiotic that crap sounds, well that is EXACTLY how you sound right now.

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#168 l_The_DetoX_l
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From some of the posts I overlooked, I assume this was a self ownage topic?
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#169 snyper1982
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where are all those xna games? I thought people would be allowed to post them for download?

I thought it was weird. Ms and free material don't go together. Xna is just another way to make money for them.

elcoholic

 

 

And sony is a purely altruistic company right?? Hahaha.

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#170 Runningflame570
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And sony is a purely altruistic company right?? Hahaha.

snyper1982

Theres a heck of a lot of free content on PSP, isn't there?Â