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#1 heaven_in_hell
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for all of those ps3 haters you still have to thank sony. come on sony is the one who brought us the ps1 and the ps2 and those 2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games. those consoles brought us really really great games such as Final fantasy 7,8,910, metal gear solid 1 & 2, marvel vs. capcom, shadow of the colossus, god of war 1 & 2, chrono cross, gran turismo, etc...

and now all this hate you even bash the creator of the playstation wow have we have no sense of gratitude...

yeah yeah the ps3 is not doing as good as its predecesor but come on let us at least be thankful for what sony did to the gaming industry, it brought it back to life.

(this also goes to nintendo and microsoft they all contributed to gaming but i believe not as huge as Sony did)

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#2 GXR
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Sony get our money.. They dont need our respect.
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I don't respect corporate entities that don't give a damn whether I get hit by a train or not.

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#4 pop1233
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sony did nothing for the gaming industry nintendo did alot more.
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:lol: cows have resulted to begging :|....:lol:

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#6 heaven_in_hell
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wow really they did nothing????? so you never had a ps1 and ps2
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#7 heaven_in_hell
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sony did nothing for the gaming industry nintendo did alot more.pop1233

wow really they did nothing???? so you never had a ps1 and ps2?

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#8 Blackbond
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Like the NFL its a "What have you done for me lately business." I don't care if you won two Super Bowl Rings back then. Its a "What have you done for me lately." League.
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:lol: cows have resulted to begging :|....:lol:

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sorry but im no cow i m just a guy who like to be thankful for the good things people gave, giving and will give me

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sony did nothing for the gaming industry nintendo did alot more.pop1233

wow wow wow, i know that sony is really going downhill, but saying that it did nothing for the gaming industry? how about making it popular? before the PS1 era games were considered a children´s toy, thats not the case now is it?

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#11 hurley_house
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[QUOTE="pop1233"]sony did nothing for the gaming industry nintendo did alot more.stika

wow wow wow, i know that sony is really going downhill, but saying that it did nothing for the gaming industry? how about making it popular? before the PS1 era games were considered a children´s toy, thats not the case now is it?

:lol: * looks at nes sales compared to ps2 sales* yeah sure there budy sure thing.....

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#12 Ontain
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[QUOTE="pop1233"]sony did nothing for the gaming industry nintendo did alot more.stika

wow wow wow, i know that sony is really going downhill, but saying that it did nothing for the gaming industry? how about making it popular? before the PS1 era games were considered a children´s toy, thats not the case now is it?

you can't just look at that in a vaccum. remember that the ppl that started out playing atari and NES also grew up and by the time of ps1 and ps2 many (like me) were in college or just out of college. we still gamed and our view of games was not that they were just children's toys. if you ask senior citizens they still see them as toys.

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for all of those ps3 haters you still have to thank sony. come on sony is the one who brought us the ps1 and the ps2 and those 2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games. those consoles brought us really really great games such as Final fantasy 7,8,910, metal gear solid 1 & 2, marvel vs. capcom, shadow of the colossus, god of war 1 & 2, chrono cross, gran turismo, etc...

and now all this hate you even bash the creator of the playstation wow have we have no sense of gratitude...

yeah yeah the ps3 is not doing as good as its predecesor but come on let us at least be thankful for what sony did to the gaming industry, it brought it back to life.

(this also goes to nintendo and microsoft they all contributed to gaming but i believe not as huge as Sony did)

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Your right:

Thank you Sony, for glady excepting my money for the ps1, and MULTIPLE times for the PS2 (disc read error). And also thank-you for making the price of the ps3 so high, because if you didn't than I would have certainly bought a ps3 and I would now have a console with no games.

.......On a less-sarcastic note, if we are going to be showing gratitude towards a gaming company for their contributions, why wouldn't it be Nintendo? They were responsible for the rise of gaming following the video game crash in the 80's. They really popularized home consoles. All Sony really did was capatilize off of this.

On top of that, Nintendo is responsible for many of the features that we list as being standard today. Rumble. Shoulder buttons. The controller analog stick.

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#14 3picuri3
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i don't owe sony anything, esp not respect.
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How did the ps1 and the ps2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games???
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#16 heaven_in_hell
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[QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]

for all of those ps3 haters you still have to thank sony. come on sony is the one who brought us the ps1 and the ps2 and those 2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games. those consoles brought us really really great games such as Final fantasy 7,8,910, metal gear solid 1 & 2, marvel vs. capcom, shadow of the colossus, god of war 1 & 2, chrono cross, gran turismo, etc...

and now all this hate you even bash the creator of the playstation wow have we have no sense of gratitude...

yeah yeah the ps3 is not doing as good as its predecesor but come on let us at least be thankful for what sony did to the gaming industry, it brought it back to life.

(this also goes to nintendo and microsoft they all contributed to gaming but i believe not as huge as Sony did)

bezaire2005

Your right:

Thank you Sony, for glady excepting my money for the ps1, and MULTIPLE times for the PS2 (disc read error). And also thank-you for making the price of the ps3 so high, because if you didn't than I would have certainly bought a ps3 and I would now have a console with no games.

.......On a less-sarcastic note, if we are going to be showing gratitude towards a gaming company for their contributions, why wouldn't it be Nintendo? They were responsible for the rise of gaming following the video game crash in the 80's. They really popularized home consoles. All Sony really did was capatilize off of this.

On top of that, Nintendo is responsible for many of the features that we list as being standard today. Rumble. Shoulder buttons. The controller analog stick.

thank you nintendo...

but unfortunately i became a gemer during the time of sony's dominance i had never touch a nintendo console maybe for about 10 years now.

but i am thankful of nintendos seriously

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#17 hurley_house
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nintendo took gaming from a niche to a 60 million dollarworth marketso yeah nintendo did do more for gaming
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sony did nothing for the gaming industry nintendo did alot more.pop1233

Sony made things much easier/fair for third parties.

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wow really they did nothing????? so you never had a ps1 and ps2heaven_in_hell

I consider myself a bit of an old school gamer, and I think back to all the launches through all the years and I have to ask

What did Sony with the PS1 really break new ground on?

Where they the first CD based system? actually they were 9th, (Turbografix CD, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar CD, Philips CDi, Panasonic 3do, Neo Geo CD)

Where they the first to offer "Moveable" memory? 4th (Sega CD, Atari Jaguar CD, Sega Saturn)

Where they the first to offer four player support games (even through you needed to buy a multitap) 4th (SNES, Turbografix, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar)

The first to not include a game at launch? Yes!

The first not to include two controllers at launch? Yes!

If I have to give credit to PS at all it would be that they really made the CD format more mainstream and allowed for any mom and pop publisher to release a game, but in all fairness Sega Saturn was doing that nearly a full year before Sony was.

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[QUOTE="pop1233"]sony did nothing for the gaming industry nintendo did alot more.kevy619

Sony made things much easier/fair for third parties.

then they shafted them with the PS3 - have you not read the countless articles about developers being extremely annoyed that sony for the first time didn't consult with any of them when designing the PS3.

it's no surprise they're losing 3rd party support like a slot jockey loses nickels.

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[QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]wow really they did nothing????? so you never had a ps1 and ps2cosmostein77

I consider myself a bit of an old school gamer, and I think back to all the launches through all the years and I have to ask

What did Sony with the PS1 really break new ground on?

Where they the first CD based system? actually they were 9th, (Turbografix CD, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar CD, Philips CDi, Panasonic 3do, Neo Geo CD)

Where they the first to offer "Moveable" memory? 4th (Sega CD, Atari Jaguar CD, Sega Saturn)

Where they the first to offer four player support games (even through you needed to buy a multitap) 4th (SNES, Turbografix, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar)

The first to not include a game at launch? Yes!

The first not to include two controllers at launch? Yes!

dual analog?

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[QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]wow really they did nothing????? so you never had a ps1 and ps2bezaire2005

I consider myself a bit of an old school gamer, and I think back to all the launches through all the years and I have to ask

What did Sony with the PS1 really break new ground on?

Where they the first CD based system? actually they were 9th, (Turbografix CD, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar CD, Philips CDi, Panasonic 3do, Neo Geo CD)

Where they the first to offer "Moveable" memory? 4th (Sega CD, Atari Jaguar CD, Sega Saturn)

Where they the first to offer four player support games (even through you needed to buy a multitap) 4th (SNES, Turbografix, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar)

The first to not include a game at launch? Yes!

The first not to include two controllers at launch? Yes!

dual analog?

Now we are spliting hairs,

While the duel analog was the first offering that offered two thumb sticks, it was hardly the first controller that offered duel full range directional pads. One could argue that the N64's Stick and fully directional "D Pad" is a duel mode, as the PS controller even the original had a N S E W set up.

If we want to go WAY back I have an old Intellivision double pad control base, and I am fairly sure that the Sega Master system offered a "Sports Controller" that offered that but I would have to look into my old controller bin to confirm if its two sticks or a stick and a four direction pad.

So technically YES Sony was the first to offer TWO sticks, but not two multi direction pads.

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[QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

[QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]wow really they did nothing????? so you never had a ps1 and ps2bezaire2005

I consider myself a bit of an old school gamer, and I think back to all the launches through all the years and I have to ask

What did Sony with the PS1 really break new ground on?

Where they the first CD based system? actually they were 9th, (Turbografix CD, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar CD, Philips CDi, Panasonic 3do, Neo Geo CD)

Where they the first to offer "Moveable" memory? 4th (Sega CD, Atari Jaguar CD, Sega Saturn)

Where they the first to offer four player support games (even through you needed to buy a multitap) 4th (SNES, Turbografix, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar)

The first to not include a game at launch? Yes!

The first not to include two controllers at launch? Yes!

dual analog?

it was something but not major since it was really just adding another rather than a risk or new idea. it's like going from 8 or 16 bit. and adding more buttons on a controller. it was the obvious progression.

I'd say that Sony did do backward compatibility on consoles first. and also pushed for consoles to be more than just gaming systems (for better or worse).

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#24 GARRYTH
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[QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]

for all of those ps3 haters you still have to thank sony. come on sony is the one who brought us the ps1 and the ps2 and those 2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games. those consoles brought us really really great games such as Final fantasy 7,8,910, metal gear solid 1 & 2, marvel vs. capcom, shadow of the colossus, god of war 1 & 2, chrono cross, gran turismo, etc...

and now all this hate you even bash the creator of the playstation wow have we have no sense of gratitude...

yeah yeah the ps3 is not doing as good as its predecesor but come on let us at least be thankful for what sony did to the gaming industry, it brought it back to life.

(this also goes to nintendo and microsoft they all contributed to gaming but i believe not as huge as Sony did)

bezaire2005

Your right:

Thank you Sony, for glady excepting my money for the ps1, and MULTIPLE times for the PS2 (disc read error). And also thank-you for making the price of the ps3 so high, because if you didn't than I would have certainly bought a ps3 and I would now have a console with no games.

.......On a less-sarcastic note, if we are going to be showing gratitude towards a gaming company for their contributions, why wouldn't it be Nintendo? They were responsible for the rise of gaming following the video game crash in the 80's. They really popularized home consoles. All Sony really did was capatilize off of this.

On top of that, Nintendo is responsible for many of the features that we list as being standard today. Rumble. Shoulder buttons. The controller analog stick.

but it is ok for micrsoft to do it with there 360 being falty right.
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I respect most of the games on the Playstation consoles although their are only a few that REALLY INTEREST me on the same level games such as The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, BioShock, (other Xbox titles), etc. excite me. And the next thing is MOST of the titles that do REALLY INTEREST me that are on the Playstation brand are titles from Square-Enix, Konami, etc. In other words third-parties, not first parties. While I respect the games, the console and first-party games are kind of shallow and boring in my opinion. Though at least they improved a little during the PS2 era with God of War, etc.
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#26 bezaire2005
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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]

for all of those ps3 haters you still have to thank sony. come on sony is the one who brought us the ps1 and the ps2 and those 2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games. those consoles brought us really really great games such as Final fantasy 7,8,910, metal gear solid 1 & 2, marvel vs. capcom, shadow of the colossus, god of war 1 & 2, chrono cross, gran turismo, etc...

and now all this hate you even bash the creator of the playstation wow have we have no sense of gratitude...

yeah yeah the ps3 is not doing as good as its predecesor but come on let us at least be thankful for what sony did to the gaming industry, it brought it back to life.

(this also goes to nintendo and microsoft they all contributed to gaming but i believe not as huge as Sony did)

GARRYTH

Your right:

Thank you Sony, for glady excepting my money for the ps1, and MULTIPLE times for the PS2 (disc read error). And also thank-you for making the price of the ps3 so high, because if you didn't than I would have certainly bought a ps3 and I would now have a console with no games.

.......On a less-sarcastic note, if we are going to be showing gratitude towards a gaming company for their contributions, why wouldn't it be Nintendo? They were responsible for the rise of gaming following the video game crash in the 80's. They really popularized home consoles. All Sony really did was capatilize off of this.

On top of that, Nintendo is responsible for many of the features that we list as being standard today. Rumble. Shoulder buttons. The controller analog stick.

but it is ok for micrsoft to do it with there 360 being falty right.

lol WHAT? When did I say that was ok? I never even mention MS in ANY of my posts in this thread, so where you are getting that from is beyond me. All I said was that I had to buy multiple ps2's because of an error, and my money went to Sony each time. If you agree...great...if you don't agree, than taht's cool too. But you are trying to turn this into an MS vs Sony thing and it just makes you look pathetic.

But now that you've brought it up: if a 360 breaks, the user sends no money to MS, they fix it for free. So while both situations sucks, the ps2 burns a larger hole in the pockets.

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Are you fanboys really that blind? You do know that $ony received MILLIONS of our money for their time and trouble. And now they're a top notch company because of people like us who bought their systems and games. ANd now you think WE should own them some loyalty and respect? I don't know where you come from, but loyalty/respect are earned not expected.

for all of those ps3 haters you still have to thank sony. come on sony is the one who brought us the ps1 and the ps2 and those 2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games. those consoles brought us really really great games such as Final fantasy 7,8,910, metal gear solid 1 & 2, marvel vs. capcom, shadow of the colossus, god of war 1 & 2, chrono cross, gran turismo, etc...

and now all this hate you even bash the creator of the playstation wow have we have no sense of gratitude...

yeah yeah the ps3 is not doing as good as its predecesor but come on let us at least be thankful for what sony did to the gaming industry, it brought it back to life.

(this also goes to nintendo and microsoft they all contributed to gaming but i believe not as huge as Sony did)

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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

[QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]wow really they did nothing????? so you never had a ps1 and ps2Ontain

I consider myself a bit of an old school gamer, and I think back to all the launches through all the years and I have to ask

What did Sony with the PS1 really break new ground on?

Where they the first CD based system? actually they were 9th, (Turbografix CD, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar CD, Philips CDi, Panasonic 3do, Neo Geo CD)

Where they the first to offer "Moveable" memory? 4th (Sega CD, Atari Jaguar CD, Sega Saturn)

Where they the first to offer four player support games (even through you needed to buy a multitap) 4th (SNES, Turbografix, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar)

The first to not include a game at launch? Yes!

The first not to include two controllers at launch? Yes!

dual analog?

it was something but not major since it was really just adding another rather than a risk or new idea. it's like going from 8 or 16 bit. and adding more buttons on a controller. it was the obvious progression.

I'd say that Sony did do backward compatibility on consoles first. and also pushed for consoles to be more than just gaming systems (for better or worse).

For CD's Sony is the first,

But in all fairness aside from Sega who really launched more then one CD or Disc based console at that time?

But for backwards compatability Atari beat them to it by nearly two full decades, I could play 2600 games on my 5200

As for more then just gaming consoles, while the PS2 did include a DVD player its not the first time that the concept had been entertained, the Atari 7800 had an SIO port and a "multimedia" expansion port which was orginally suppose to be used for an external Laser Disc Player.

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#29 stika
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[QUOTE="stika"]

[QUOTE="pop1233"]sony did nothing for the gaming industry nintendo did alot more.Ontain

wow wow wow, i know that sony is really going downhill, but saying that it did nothing for the gaming industry? how about making it popular? before the PS1 era games were considered a children´s toy, thats not the case now is it?

you can't just look at that in a vaccum. remember that the ppl that started out playing atari and NES also grew up and by the time of ps1 and ps2 many (like me) were in college or just out of college. we still gamed and our view of games was not that they were just children's toys. if you ask senior citizens they still see them as toys.

yes but we were gamers to begin with, there were a lot of aduts that began playing for the first time in the 32 bit era, probably because of the 3D

EDIT: i dont think that we should thank sony for anything, but neither should we thank nintendo sega or microsoft, at BEST i´ll thank atari for starting the console industry

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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

[QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]wow really they did nothing????? so you never had a ps1 and ps2Ontain

I consider myself a bit of an old school gamer, and I think back to all the launches through all the years and I have to ask

What did Sony with the PS1 really break new ground on?

Where they the first CD based system? actually they were 9th, (Turbografix CD, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar CD, Philips CDi, Panasonic 3do, Neo Geo CD)

Where they the first to offer "Moveable" memory? 4th (Sega CD, Atari Jaguar CD, Sega Saturn)

Where they the first to offer four player support games (even through you needed to buy a multitap) 4th (SNES, Turbografix, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar)

The first to not include a game at launch? Yes!

The first not to include two controllers at launch? Yes!

dual analog?

it was something but not major since it was really just adding another rather than a risk or new idea. it's like going from 8 or 16 bit. and adding more buttons on a controller. it was the obvious progression.

I'd say that Sony did do backward compatibility on consoles first. and also pushed for consoles to be more than just gaming systems (for better or worse).

...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE (or sevearly inferior) without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me. I don't consider it a natual progression to add MORE analog sticks.

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#31 bizsumpark182
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I agree with you. If Sony didn't come into gaming when it did I don't think it would be anywhere near as mainstream as it is now. Sure, you still would have had Nintendo and maybe still SEGA. But, I'm willing to say that Microsoft wouldn't have released the Xbox. Sure, Sony has done some stupid things, but its because of Sony that many of us are gaming today.
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first to use the actual cd format yes i now turbo cd ect. but it was not the same cd's they use for music cd. they were they first to have m rating games. they were they first to have portible memory cards so you can play your game on your friends system. they were the first to have 8 buttons on a controler.

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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

[QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]wow really they did nothing????? so you never had a ps1 and ps2bezaire2005

I consider myself a bit of an old school gamer, and I think back to all the launches through all the years and I have to ask

What did Sony with the PS1 really break new ground on?

Where they the first CD based system? actually they were 9th, (Turbografix CD, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar CD, Philips CDi, Panasonic 3do, Neo Geo CD)

Where they the first to offer "Moveable" memory? 4th (Sega CD, Atari Jaguar CD, Sega Saturn)

Where they the first to offer four player support games (even through you needed to buy a multitap) 4th (SNES, Turbografix, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar)

The first to not include a game at launch? Yes!

The first not to include two controllers at launch? Yes!

dual analog?

it was something but not major since it was really just adding another rather than a risk or new idea. it's like going from 8 or 16 bit. and adding more buttons on a controller. it was the obvious progression.

I'd say that Sony did do backward compatibility on consoles first. and also pushed for consoles to be more than just gaming systems (for better or worse).

...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me.

Nintendo first utilized analog sticks so give them the credit... About using two instead of one, I had the PS1 and it was rare when both of them were utilized. I know having two is very important today but I don't think it's something that Nintendo wouldn't have done with their next console (after N64) if they hadn't seen Sony copy their original idea...

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...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me.

bezaire2005

most current gamers would be impossible without more than 2 or 4 buttons but we don't go crazy over adding extra buttons do we?

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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me.

Ontain

most current gamers would be impossible without more than 2 or 4 buttons but we don't go crazy over adding extra buttons do we?

lol best example ever

i dont know why people keep saying the PS1 inovated anything... it didnt, but like i said it made games a mainstream media which was very important

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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me.

Ontain

most current gamers would be impossible without more than 2 or 4 buttons but we don't go crazy over adding extra buttons do we?

We don't..but I guess we should. Personally i really don't go "crazy" over anything gaming related, but that's just me. but with what you said, the evoultion of the controller was absolutly necessary.

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...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE (or sevearly inferior) without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me. I don't consider it a natual progression to add MORE analog sticks.

bezaire2005

Funny thing, I remember playing most current genres in the N64 with only one analog stick with no problem whatsoever. Shooters, flight sims, adventure games, you name it.

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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]

for all of those ps3 haters you still have to thank sony. come on sony is the one who brought us the ps1 and the ps2 and those 2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games. those consoles brought us really really great games such as Final fantasy 7,8,910, metal gear solid 1 & 2, marvel vs. capcom, shadow of the colossus, god of war 1 & 2, chrono cross, gran turismo, etc...

and now all this hate you even bash the creator of the playstation wow have we have no sense of gratitude...

yeah yeah the ps3 is not doing as good as its predecesor but come on let us at least be thankful for what sony did to the gaming industry, it brought it back to life.

(this also goes to nintendo and microsoft they all contributed to gaming but i believe not as huge as Sony did)

bezaire2005

Your right:

Thank you Sony, for glady excepting my money for the ps1, and MULTIPLE times for the PS2 (disc read error). And also thank-you for making the price of the ps3 so high, because if you didn't than I would have certainly bought a ps3 and I would now have a console with no games.

.......On a less-sarcastic note, if we are going to be showing gratitude towards a gaming company for their contributions, why wouldn't it be Nintendo? They were responsible for the rise of gaming following the video game crash in the 80's. They really popularized home consoles. All Sony really did was capatilize off of this.

On top of that, Nintendo is responsible for many of the features that we list as being standard today. Rumble. Shoulder buttons. The controller analog stick.

but it is ok for micrsoft to do it with there 360 being falty right.

lol WHAT? When did I say that was ok? I never even mention MS in ANY of my posts in this thread, so where you are getting that from is beyond me. All I said was that I had to buy multiple ps2's because of an error, and my money went to Sony each time. If you agree...great...if you don't agree, than taht's cool too. But you are trying to turn this into an MS vs Sony thing and it just makes you look pathetic.

But now that you've brought it up: if a 360 breaks, the user sends no money to MS, they fix it for free. So while both situations sucks, the ps2 burns a larger hole in the pockets.

yes i all so went through 3 ps 2 my self that is why im glad sony went expensive so i can have a reliable system. i also was not trying to say anything to just you but to all the 360 fans. plus after 3 years is up you will have to by a new one. plus the 3 years only cover the 3 rings of death nothing else and there is other things falty on it. ps 2 was great for games but i hated that i had to buy 3 of them last gen. but i have 75 games for it so i had to. the first one went after 3 years anyways not the first year.
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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="cosmostein77"]

[QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]wow really they did nothing????? so you never had a ps1 and ps2UDA1983

I consider myself a bit of an old school gamer, and I think back to all the launches through all the years and I have to ask

What did Sony with the PS1 really break new ground on?

Where they the first CD based system? actually they were 9th, (Turbografix CD, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar CD, Philips CDi, Panasonic 3do, Neo Geo CD)

Where they the first to offer "Moveable" memory? 4th (Sega CD, Atari Jaguar CD, Sega Saturn)

Where they the first to offer four player support games (even through you needed to buy a multitap) 4th (SNES, Turbografix, Sega Saturn, Atari Jaguar)

The first to not include a game at launch? Yes!

The first not to include two controllers at launch? Yes!

dual analog?

it was something but not major since it was really just adding another rather than a risk or new idea. it's like going from 8 or 16 bit. and adding more buttons on a controller. it was the obvious progression.

I'd say that Sony did do backward compatibility on consoles first. and also pushed for consoles to be more than just gaming systems (for better or worse).

...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me.

Nintendo first utilized analog sticks so give them the credit... About using two instead of one, I had the PS1 and it was rare when both of them were utilized. I know having two is very important today but I don't think it's something that Nintendo wouldn't have done with their next console (after N64) if they hadn't seen Sony copy their original idea...

I gave them credit on the first page, your not telling me anything new here.

I used the dual analogs quite a bit with the ps1, so I guess we just agree to disagree there. And even still, the inability to control the camera properly would make a seriously dent in the various genres that are popular today.

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Sony had my respect 15 years ago when a Sony product meant quality. I remember the days when a Sony Walkman or Discman actually stood for something. Now Sony's brand name means it will fail to work right after the warranty is up and they won't do squat to replace or repair it.

Sony once meant something, now that name means crap to me and anyone else who demands to get what you pay for.

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#41 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me.

bezaire2005

most current gamers would be impossible without more than 2 or 4 buttons but we don't go crazy over adding extra buttons do we?

We don't..but I guess we should. Personally i really don't go "crazy" over anything gaming related, but that's just me. but with what you said, the evoultion of the controller was absolutly necessary.

it was necessary but the key points were the addition of something new. not the mere addition of and extra.

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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="heaven_in_hell"]

for all of those ps3 haters you still have to thank sony. come on sony is the one who brought us the ps1 and the ps2 and those 2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games. those consoles brought us really really great games such as Final fantasy 7,8,910, metal gear solid 1 & 2, marvel vs. capcom, shadow of the colossus, god of war 1 & 2, chrono cross, gran turismo, etc...

and now all this hate you even bash the creator of the playstation wow have we have no sense of gratitude...

yeah yeah the ps3 is not doing as good as its predecesor but come on let us at least be thankful for what sony did to the gaming industry, it brought it back to life.

(this also goes to nintendo and microsoft they all contributed to gaming but i believe not as huge as Sony did)

GARRYTH

Your right:

Thank you Sony, for glady excepting my money for the ps1, and MULTIPLE times for the PS2 (disc read error). And also thank-you for making the price of the ps3 so high, because if you didn't than I would have certainly bought a ps3 and I would now have a console with no games.

.......On a less-sarcastic note, if we are going to be showing gratitude towards a gaming company for their contributions, why wouldn't it be Nintendo? They were responsible for the rise of gaming following the video game crash in the 80's. They really popularized home consoles. All Sony really did was capatilize off of this.

On top of that, Nintendo is responsible for many of the features that we list as being standard today. Rumble. Shoulder buttons. The controller analog stick.

but it is ok for micrsoft to do it with there 360 being falty right.

lol WHAT? When did I say that was ok? I never even mention MS in ANY of my posts in this thread, so where you are getting that from is beyond me. All I said was that I had to buy multiple ps2's because of an error, and my money went to Sony each time. If you agree...great...if you don't agree, than taht's cool too. But you are trying to turn this into an MS vs Sony thing and it just makes you look pathetic.

But now that you've brought it up: if a 360 breaks, the user sends no money to MS, they fix it for free. So while both situations sucks, the ps2 burns a larger hole in the pockets.

yes i all so went through 3 ps 2 my self that is why im glad sony went expensive so i can have a reliable system. i also was not trying to say anything to just you but to all the 360 fans. plus after 3 years is up you will have to by a new one. plus the 3 years only cover the 3 rings of death nothing else and there is other things falty on it. ps 2 was great for games but i hated that i had to buy 3 of them last gen. but i have 75 games for it so i had to. the first one went after 3 years anyways not the first year.

I owned a 360 since launch and I've only sent it in once and that was 2 months after I got it. I think you are overexagerating the problem a little bit, but I guess that's just my specific case. But anyways, Sony had problems with their 2nd console, so i don't see what it is so unforgivable that MS has problems with their 2nd console. At least MS addressed the problem and did what they had to do to remedy it.

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for all of those ps3 haters you still have to thank sony. come on sony is the one who brought us the ps1 and the ps2 and those 2 consoles revolutionize the way people play games. those consoles brought us really really great games such as Final fantasy 7,8,910, metal gear solid 1 & 2, marvel vs. capcom, shadow of the colossus, god of war 1 & 2, chrono cross, gran turismo, etc...

and now all this hate you even bash the creator of the playstation wow have we have no sense of gratitude...

yeah yeah the ps3 is not doing as good as its predecesor but come on let us at least be thankful for what sony did to the gaming industry, it brought it back to life.

(this also goes to nintendo and microsoft they all contributed to gaming but i believe not as huge as Sony did)

heaven_in_hell

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nice i like your post

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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me.

Ontain

most current gamers would be impossible without more than 2 or 4 buttons but we don't go crazy over adding extra buttons do we?

We don't..but I guess we should. Personally i really don't go "crazy" over anything gaming related, but that's just me. but with what you said, the evoultion of the controller was absolutly necessary.

it was necessary but the key points were the addition of something new. not the mere addition of and extra.

We were talking about what specific companies have broughten to gaming. I don't see how being the first to have dual analog sticks that give rise to pretty much every game we play today is not a strong contribution to gaming. I'm not saying Sony invented something completly new, I'm not saying they invented something that was completly out of nowhere and unimaginable. All I'm saying is that it was a contribution that shaped today's gaming.

Maybe you disagree, and that's fine. But personally I consider the integration of any component that is widely used today to be significant.

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lmao they dont need ur respect they need ur money ;)
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"dont bite the hand that feeds you"

nice i like your post

JAMES_L_BROOKS

Video games do not feed me and they are not essential for life. But I were to go about your analogy then I'd say this. I bite Sega, I have bitten Nintendo. Why should I exuse Sony?

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[QUOTE="pop1233"]sony did nothing for the gaming industry nintendo did alot more.heaven_in_hell

wow really they did nothing???? so you never had a ps1 and ps2?

ever heard of the nes? snes? n64? gc? wii?

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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

...most current games would be IMPOSSIBLE without dual analog...that's pretty major if you ask me.

bezaire2005

most current gamers would be impossible without more than 2 or 4 buttons but we don't go crazy over adding extra buttons do we?

We don't..but I guess we should. Personally i really don't go "crazy" over anything gaming related, but that's just me. but with what you said, the evoultion of the controller was absolutly necessary.

it was necessary but the key points were the addition of something new. not the mere addition of and extra.

We were talking about what specific companies have broughten to gaming. I don't see how being the first to have dual analog sticks that give rise to pretty much every game we play today is not a strong contribution to gaming. I'm not saying Sony invented something completly new, I'm not saying they invented something that was completly out of nowhere and unimaginable. All I'm saying is that it was a contribution that shaped today's gaming.

Maybe you disagree, and that's fine. But personally I consider the integration of any component that is widely used today to be significant.

You're giving Sony wayyyy to much credit. All they did was follow in Atari and Nintendos footsteps. They came out with 2 consoles that happened to be the most popular at that time. They didn't re-invent gaming nor did they revolutionize it. Atari brought gaming to the main stream with Nintendo following right after. Most of probably don't remember Atari since I'm sure you weren't born then.

If you want to thank anyone thank Atari and Nintendo. They were household names loooong before Playstation ever was.

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#49 thegame1980
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sorry but im no cow i m just a guy who like to be thankful for the good things people gave, giving and will give meheaven_in_hell

I'm thankful to be alive, to have a job, to have caring family and friends, that I can walk, see and hear, that I have good health and a healthy baby girl. I'm NOT thankful some Japenese mega corp decided to make a videogame console in order to make millions of dollars and one day hope to monopolize the genre. If they gave me a PSone, PS2 or PS3 for free then I would thank them. there are MANY more things to be thankful for then Sony creating the Playstation.

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Sorry, that's all in the past. They have changed dramatically in my eye. Cocky, elitist, snobby- this is how you describe Sony now. Success and being propelled to the top has inflated their egos to unhealthy levels. To be quite honest, just because someone does something for you in the past doesn't mean you should forgive what they do in the present.