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#1 bamafan1359
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http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/so...th-publishers/

Hmm, that is interesting. I am surprised that they would admit that...

Thoughts?
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#2 Lab392
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I am surprised that they would admit that...

bamafan1359

I'm not. It's actually sort of common sense. Games are becoming more and more expensive to make these days, and most publishers can't afford to miss out on sales without a bit of monentary compensation.

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#3 sadikovic
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This could be bad news for sony and microsoft... no exlusives = cheapest system wins.
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#5 Mongo-Boss
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With such high development costs only paying for exclusives or having a system with a much bigger fanbase will cause 3rd party exclusives. MGS4 is an exception but Sony and Konami made a deal for advertisement. Not that bad for gamers, 360 and PS3 owners get to enjoy great 3rd party games. Leave the exclusives to 1st and 2nd party devs.
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#6 -Wheels-
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Looks like the Wii and PC just got that much more appealing.
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#7 facebooker
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haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperate
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haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperatefacebooker

Yet MS has the least 1rst party titles in development....unless you know something I don't.

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haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperatefacebooker

You are aware that he wasn't talking specifically about the PS3? He meant that exclusives are going to get more and more rare across the board, which makes a lot of sense.

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no, this is actually good news for Sony, and they know it. They know that they don't have to pay for exclusives, since exclusives will come to them. They don't have to shell out millions for the best exclusives to come to them, like SOCOM, GOW3, MGS4, and Team Ico project. The 360 is going to break the bank, while the PS3 leaps past it to victory.
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Only cows would deny itCow_Killah

Cow Killah :lol:

haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperatefacebooker

Im quite sure that rather than pay for 3rd party exclusives, Sony have beefed up their internal studios.

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I think we all saw this coming. I just surprised they didn't admit it sooner. 360 version of Tekken 6, here I come.
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The article talks about the differences in gaining exclusivity from Publishers, and Developers.

It's basically saying that Big name publishers, such as EA, or Ubisoft, are much less likely to do exclusive games, without the incentive of millions of $'s.

It also goes on to say, that instead, working with independant studios, and helping small teams with devlopment of their titles is what is going to bring in the 3rd party exclusives. Sony has consistently done so, with studios such as Media Molecule, Quantic Dream etc.

The actual fact is, that the future of exclusives lies in in-house devlopment, and the support of independant, small developers. Something that Sony has continued to prove, in comparison to Microsofts almost complete reliance on big name 3rd party publishers, and a very select few in house developement groups.

Anyone who can't see the advantage Sony has gained by focusing on in-house devlopment, is extremely blind.
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this simply means more multiplatforms
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haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperatefacebooker

not desperate, just wanting to put more money into their own studios unlike ms. you lemms are always grasping at straws just face the fact that the ps3 is a better system and will outsell the crapbox. you all need to wake up.

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Only cows would deny itCow_Killah
no, this is actually good news for Sony, and they know it. They know that they don't have to pay for exclusives, since exclusives will come to them. They don't have to shell out millions for the best exclusives to come to them, like SOCOM, GOW3, MGS4, and Team Ico project. The 360 is going to break the bank, while the PS3 leaps past it to victory. Fart_Storm
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#18 clone01
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[QUOTE="bamafan1359"]
I am surprised that they would admit that...

Lab392

I'm not. It's actually sort of common sense. Games are becoming more and more expensive to make these days, and most publishers can't afford to miss out on sales without a bit of monentary compensation.

yep, days of the exclusive are numbered. good riddance, if you ask me. of course, then again, we don't get the endless amusement of SW if that's the case.

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[QUOTE="facebooker"]haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperateLoZoned

not desperate, just wanting to put more money into their own studios unlike ms. you lemms are always grasping at straws just face the fact that the ps3 is a better system and will outsell the crapbox. you all need to wake up.

Or maybe you should stop drinking the Sony Kool-aid. Both systems have their advantages. Just get over it.

As far as multiplats go, I agree with the majority. Given the rising costs of development, its a wonder that any title produced isn't immediately ported to every available platform.

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no, this is actually good news for Sony, and they know it. They know that they don't have to pay for exclusives, since exclusives will come to them. They don't have to shell out millions for the best exclusives to come to them, like SOCOM, GOW3, MGS4, and Team Ico project. The 360 is going to break the bank, while the PS3 leaps past it to victory. Fart_Storm

LMAO... Microsoft, break the bank? You would be confused my friend, MS has tons of money to spend, where as Sony doesn't have quite that freedom.

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[QUOTE="LoZoned"]

[QUOTE="facebooker"]haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperateHarryCrackage

not desperate, just wanting to put more money into their own studios unlike ms. you lemms are always grasping at straws just face the fact that the ps3 is a better system and will outsell the crapbox. you all need to wake up.

Or maybe you should stop drinking the Sony Kool-aid. Both systems have their advantages. Just get over it.

As far as multiplats go, I agree with the majority. Given the rising costs of development, its a wonder that any title produced isn't immediately ported to every available platform.

finally someone with a good head on their shoulders here

i mean its ridicolous some of these fanboys opinions are completely biased, its as if they were nazi's or something

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[QUOTE="Cow_Killah"]Only cows would deny itONLYDOD

Cow Killah :lol:

haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperatefacebooker

Im quite sure that rather than pay for 3rd party exclusives, Sony have beefed up their internal studios.

They don't call me that for no reason baby :wink:
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#23 SolidGame_basic
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Only cows would deny itCow_Killah

What's to deny? If anything, Sony is least affected by it because they have the most internal developers. Why pay so much for exclusives when you can just make your own?

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[QUOTE="Fart_Storm"]no, this is actually good news for Sony, and they know it. They know that they don't have to pay for exclusives, since exclusives will come to them. They don't have to shell out millions for the best exclusives to come to them, like SOCOM, GOW3, MGS4, and Team Ico project. The 360 is going to break the bank, while the PS3 leaps past it to victory. bamafan1359

LMAO... Microsoft, break the bank? You would be confused my friend, MS has tons of money to spend, where as Sony doesn't have quite that freedom.

The thing is, will MS continue to keep spending money to buy exclusives though? Let's say, for example, MS currently spends 50M for an exclusive. With the rising cost of development, MS might have to spend 100M for exclusives later. Paying millions for exclusives takes a toll on any company's bank account. Meanwhile, Sony won't face that problem because they have their 1st and 2nd party exlcusives to keep them apart from MS. In the end, they both will share many multiplats and the only difference is that Sony will probably only be spending a flat rate on their exlcusives while MS might have to spend millions to secure exclusives. If an exclusive flops in sales, then MS just wasted lots of money.

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Yea, I'm sure MS has tons of money to spend. Especially on mega flops like Too Human and how about 2 more to make the trilogy lol.
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#26 LoZoned
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[QUOTE="HarryCrackage"][QUOTE="LoZoned"]

[QUOTE="facebooker"]haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperateAnimal-Mother

not desperate, just wanting to put more money into their own studios unlike ms. you lemms are always grasping at straws just face the fact that the ps3 is a better system and will outsell the crapbox. you all need to wake up.

Or maybe you should stop drinking the Sony Kool-aid. Both systems have their advantages. Just get over it.

As far as multiplats go, I agree with the majority. Given the rising costs of development, its a wonder that any title produced isn't immediately ported to every available platform.

finally someone with a good head on their shoulders here

i mean its ridicolous some of these fanboys opinions are completely biased, its as if they were nazi's or something

Sony has invested their money internally where as ms is spending it externally, in the end the approach that sony is taking is better because more 3rd parties are going multiplat. stop drinking your own kool aid, and to the other guy that is nut hugging stand your own ground.

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#27 clone01
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Yea, I'm sure MS has tons of money to spend. Especially on mega flops like Too Human and how about 2 more to make the trilogy lol.SolidGame_basic

Too Human has sold 700k copies to date.

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Hence why its good to have internal developers.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="HarryCrackage"][QUOTE="LoZoned"]

[QUOTE="facebooker"]haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperateLoZoned

not desperate, just wanting to put more money into their own studios unlike ms. you lemms are always grasping at straws just face the fact that the ps3 is a better system and will outsell the crapbox. you all need to wake up.

Or maybe you should stop drinking the Sony Kool-aid. Both systems have their advantages. Just get over it.

As far as multiplats go, I agree with the majority. Given the rising costs of development, its a wonder that any title produced isn't immediately ported to every available platform.

finally someone with a good head on their shoulders here

i mean its ridicolous some of these fanboys opinions are completely biased, its as if they were nazi's or something

Sony has invested their money internally where as ms is spending it externally, in the end the approach that sony is taking is better because more 3rd parties are going multiplat. stop drinking your own kool aid, and to the other guy that is nut hugging stand your own ground.

that wasnt personally directed torward you more towards face booker

edit i made a mistake i meant to just bold both systems have their advantagesssssssssss

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[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]Yea, I'm sure MS has tons of money to spend. Especially on mega flops like Too Human and how about 2 more to make the trilogy lol.clone01

Too Human has sold 700k copies to date.

link?

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#32 HarryCrackage
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="HarryCrackage"][QUOTE="LoZoned"]

[QUOTE="facebooker"]haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperateLoZoned

not desperate, just wanting to put more money into their own studios unlike ms. you lemms are always grasping at straws just face the fact that the ps3 is a better system and will outsell the crapbox. you all need to wake up.

Or maybe you should stop drinking the Sony Kool-aid. Both systems have their advantages. Just get over it.

As far as multiplats go, I agree with the majority. Given the rising costs of development, its a wonder that any title produced isn't immediately ported to every available platform.

finally someone with a good head on their shoulders here

i mean its ridicolous some of these fanboys opinions are completely biased, its as if they were nazi's or something

Sony has invested their money internally where as ms is spending it externally, in the end the approach that sony is taking is better because more 3rd parties are going multiplat. stop drinking your own kool aid, and to the other guy that is nut hugging stand your own ground.

Now see, that was a well thought out post and you actually made a good point. Perhaps if you would've stated that in the beginning without the juvenile "crapbox" and "wake up" comment, I would have omitted the Kool-aid comment. The problem is all the fanboys in SW who seem to hold these corporations too close to their hearts come off as deranged parishioners in a fanatical church.

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#33 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]Yea, I'm sure MS has tons of money to spend. Especially on mega flops like Too Human and how about 2 more to make the trilogy lol.SolidGame_basic

Too Human has sold 700k copies to date.

link?

http://www.thesimexchange.com/stock.php?id=174

granted, not the most reliable data yet. NPD will have the definitive answer. i believe the 1.42mil is the forecast, the 736,000 is total volume.

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#34 LoZoned
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[QUOTE="LoZoned"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="HarryCrackage"][QUOTE="LoZoned"]

[QUOTE="facebooker"]haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperateHarryCrackage

not desperate, just wanting to put more money into their own studios unlike ms. you lemms are always grasping at straws just face the fact that the ps3 is a better system and will outsell the crapbox. you all need to wake up.

Or maybe you should stop drinking the Sony Kool-aid. Both systems have their advantages. Just get over it.

As far as multiplats go, I agree with the majority. Given the rising costs of development, its a wonder that any title produced isn't immediately ported to every available platform.

finally someone with a good head on their shoulders here

i mean its ridicolous some of these fanboys opinions are completely biased, its as if they were nazi's or something

Sony has invested their money internally where as ms is spending it externally, in the end the approach that sony is taking is better because more 3rd parties are going multiplat. stop drinking your own kool aid, and to the other guy that is nut hugging stand your own ground.

Now see, that was a well thought out post and you actually made a good point. Perhaps if you would've stated that in the beginning without the juvenile "crapbox" and "wake up" comment, I would have omitted the Kool-aid comment. The problem is all the fanboys in SW who seem to hold these corporations too close to their hearts come off as deranged parishioners in a fanatical church.

agreed, while i prefer the sony system, i think the 360 has been a good system aswell. but this is system wars where logic fails, atleast that is what they tell me.

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no, this is actually good news for Sony, and they know it. They know that they don't have to pay for exclusives, since exclusives will come to them. They don't have to shell out millions for the best exclusives to come to them, like SOCOM, GOW3, MGS4, and Team Ico project. The 360 is going to break the bank, while the PS3 leaps past it to victory. Fart_Storm
or they will go to the platform that's easier to develope for, costs less to develope for and sells more copies of nearly every multiplat the xbox 360.
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#37 delta3074
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[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"][QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]Yea, I'm sure MS has tons of money to spend. Especially on mega flops like Too Human and how about 2 more to make the trilogy lol.clone01

Too Human has sold 700k copies to date.

link?

http://www.thesimexchange.com/stock.php?id=174

granted, not the most reliable data yet. NPD will have the definitive answer. i believe the 1.42mil is the forecast, the 736,000 is total volume.

and it isn't even out in europe till friday
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[QUOTE="HarryCrackage"][QUOTE="LoZoned"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="HarryCrackage"][QUOTE="LoZoned"]

[QUOTE="facebooker"]haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperateLoZoned

not desperate, just wanting to put more money into their own studios unlike ms. you lemms are always grasping at straws just face the fact that the ps3 is a better system and will outsell the crapbox. you all need to wake up.

Or maybe you should stop drinking the Sony Kool-aid. Both systems have their advantages. Just get over it.

As far as multiplats go, I agree with the majority. Given the rising costs of development, its a wonder that any title produced isn't immediately ported to every available platform.

finally someone with a good head on their shoulders here

i mean its ridicolous some of these fanboys opinions are completely biased, its as if they were nazi's or something

Sony has invested their money internally where as ms is spending it externally, in the end the approach that sony is taking is better because more 3rd parties are going multiplat. stop drinking your own kool aid, and to the other guy that is nut hugging stand your own ground.

Now see, that was a well thought out post and you actually made a good point. Perhaps if you would've stated that in the beginning without the juvenile "crapbox" and "wake up" comment, I would have omitted the Kool-aid comment. The problem is all the fanboys in SW who seem to hold these corporations too close to their hearts come off as deranged parishioners in a fanatical church.

agreed, while i prefer the sony system, i think the 360 has been a good system aswell. but this is system wars where logic fails, atleast that is what they tell me.

So true. Don't sweat it, I've been provoked enough before to post some rather fanboyish comments myself. Tis human nature, I reckon.

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The article talks about the differences in gaining exclusivity from Publishers, and Developers.

It's basically saying that Big name publishers, such as EA, or Ubisoft, are much less likely to do exclusive games, without the incentive of millions of $'s.

It also goes on to say, that instead, working with independant studios, and helping small teams with devlopment of their titles is what is going to bring in the 3rd party exclusives. Sony has consistently done so, with studios such as Media Molecule, Quantic Dream etc.

The actual fact is, that the future of exclusives lies in in-house devlopment, and the support of independant, small developers. Something that Sony has continued to prove, in comparison to Microsofts almost complete reliance on big name 3rd party publishers, and a very select few in house developement groups.

Anyone who can't see the advantage Sony has gained by focusing on in-house devlopment, is extremely blind.
jonnyt61

Nintendo has focused on 1st party games for ages. Heck, people buy their consoles for the 1st party games. Does that mean Nintendo has the biggest advantage of them all?

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#40 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]Yea, I'm sure MS has tons of money to spend. Especially on mega flops like Too Human and how about 2 more to make the trilogy lol.LoZoned

Too Human has sold 700k copies to date.

not our fault that 360 owners are buying this crappy game to save face, "yeah the game sucks ass, but it sold a million", its like telling the dev its ok to make this garbage because you idiots buy it, lemms these days.

Lmao, 700k just to save face. ok...........

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#41 delta3074
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]Yea, I'm sure MS has tons of money to spend. Especially on mega flops like Too Human and how about 2 more to make the trilogy lol.LoZoned

Too Human has sold 700k copies to date.

not our fault that 360 owners are buying this crappy game to save face, "yeah the game sucks ass, but it sold a million", its like telling the dev its ok to make this garbage because you idiots buy it, lemms these days.

so i'm an idiot because i actually like too human,i am an idiot cos in your world people ain't allowed PERSONAL PREFERENCE and ,oh no ,heaven forbid anyone likes a game you don't like, you my Friend are not just a cow but a very narrow minded one.
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#42 ONLYDOD
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[QUOTE="Cow_Killah"]Only cows would deny itCow_Killah

Cow Killah :lol:

haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperatefacebooker

Im quite sure that rather than pay for 3rd party exclusives, Sony have beefed up their internal studios.

They don't call me that for no reason baby :wink:

Whatever you say tough guy.

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#43 VendettaRed07
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Sony and MS have enough money to ensure devs dont loose anything. So the whole devs. cant really afford to be exclusive thing doesnt really work here i dont think, only if your title is good enough to buy out
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="SolidGame_basic"]Yea, I'm sure MS has tons of money to spend. Especially on mega flops like Too Human and how about 2 more to make the trilogy lol.LoZoned

Too Human has sold 700k copies to date.

not our fault that 360 owners are buying this crappy game to save face, "yeah the game sucks ass, but it sold a million", its like telling the dev its ok to make this garbage because you idiots buy it, lemms these days.

have you played it? its certainly not GOTY, but with a few friends online, its pretty fun.

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The article talks about the differences in gaining exclusivity from Publishers, and Developers.

It's basically saying that Big name publishers, such as EA, or Ubisoft, are much less likely to do exclusive games, without the incentive of millions of $'s.

It also goes on to say, that instead, working with independant studios, and helping small teams with devlopment of their titles is what is going to bring in the 3rd party exclusives. Sony has consistently done so, with studios such as Media Molecule, Quantic Dream etc.

The actual fact is, that the future of exclusives lies in in-house devlopment, and the support of independant, small developers. Something that Sony has continued to prove, in comparison to Microsofts almost complete reliance on big name 3rd party publishers, and a very select few in house developement groups.

Anyone who can't see the advantage Sony has gained by focusing on in-house devlopment, is extremely blind.
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this

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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]The article talks about the differences in gaining exclusivity from Publishers, and Developers.

It's basically saying that Big name publishers, such as EA, or Ubisoft, are much less likely to do exclusive games, without the incentive of millions of $'s.

It also goes on to say, that instead, working with independant studios, and helping small teams with devlopment of their titles is what is going to bring in the 3rd party exclusives. Sony has consistently done so, with studios such as Media Molecule, Quantic Dream etc.

The actual fact is, that the future of exclusives lies in in-house devlopment, and the support of independant, small developers. Something that Sony has continued to prove, in comparison to Microsofts almost complete reliance on big name 3rd party publishers, and a very select few in house developement groups.

Anyone who can't see the advantage Sony has gained by focusing on in-house devlopment, is extremely blind.
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Nintendo has focused on 1st party games for ages. Heck, people buy their consoles for the 1st party games. Does that mean Nintendo has the biggest advantage of them all?

well they are number one in sales

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I think we all saw this coming. I just surprised they didn't admit it sooner. 360 version of Tekken 6, here I come.DireOwl
Only cows would deny itCow_Killah
haha unlike sony, ms can always afford exclusives to satisfy 360 owners. sony's getting desperatefacebooker

i dont understand how ppl dont realize this doesnt only apply to sony, *sigh*...

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Shold PS3 be considered the most "balanced" of the 3 current gen consoles in terms of dev support?

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I've been saying this since July....
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Only cows would deny itCow_Killah

Your fanboyish ways have blinded you to the point that you don't realize this is true for ALL of the industry, this means that the Xbox won't be getting as many exclusives as before same goes for Wii and PS3