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#1 Stonin
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In 2005 I heard it would be 2006 as soon as the PS3 launched. Then there was a delay and it would overtake it by the end of 2007 for sure. Then 2008 rolls around and it still hasn't really made any major dent in 360 sales or lead. Then it was going to be Christmas 2008 but that isn't looking likely either....

So when will it be? Is it now summer 2009? Christmas 2009? Summer 2010? Sony needs to be doing double the 360 sales worldwide every month from now until 2010 to stand a chance of overtaking it so do you think this is possible?

Are you willing to place your bets and stand by it?

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#2 TMontana1004
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We already told cows numerous times that the chances are very slim that it will overtake the 360 in a matter of a few years. They never listen to the facts. I'm not gonna waste my time doing the math; the can find it out by themselves.
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#3 Tykain
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Id say 2nd half of 2009.
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#4 st1ka
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in sales? by february 2009 the PS3 will have surpassed the 360 if things keep going like this
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#5 Floppy_Jim
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Did anyone really expect it to happen in 2006? Anyway my guess is Q3 2009, around September.

Edit: Could be sooner depending on a possible comeback in Japan.

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#6 Stonin
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Did anyone really expect it to happen in 2006? Anyway my guess is Q3 2009, around September.Floppy_Jim

Oh yeah for sure, the biggest Sony supporters were basically saying that it would sell as many at launch as the 360 had in the months prior....then it was delayed again :P.

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#7 Stonin
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in sales? by february 2009 the PS3 will have surpassed the 360 if things keep going like thisst1ka

Based on what figures? It isn't outselling it worldwide by enough each month to make up the difference...

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#8 leonhead
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Even if the PS3 starts outselling the 360, it'll take a year atleast due to the 360 have like 6 millions consoles sold. Because the 360 will always be selling so always be going up, so yeah I'm guessing it'll take awhile. maybe 2010? But I don't see why PS3 owners should be anticipating when the PS3 catchees the 360 in sales, just play your games. You've got resistance, spore, Killzone 2.
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#9 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Did anyone really expect it to happen in 2006? Anyway my guess is Q3 2009, around September.Stonin

Oh yeah for sure, the biggest Sony supporters were basically saying that it would sell as many at launch as the 360 had in the months prior....then it was delayed again :P.

:lol: I'm a big PS fan and even I wasn't THAT deluded!

Also: To those saying it won't happen for years, just remember- that 7.5 million gap shrunk to a 5/6 milion gap pretty quickly.

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#10 fishfake
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hm... i try too remember this threat if some sheep opens a "sales maters wii win" threat and cows or lemmings try too argument that sales dont matter ! weird world in sw :P
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#11 thrones
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In sales, if it keeps up I suspect around 2010/2011. Just in time for the next generation.
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#12 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Did anyone really expect it to happen in 2006? Anyway my guess is Q3 2009, around September.Floppy_Jim

Oh yeah for sure, the biggest Sony supporters were basically saying that it would sell as many at launch as the 360 had in the months prior....then it was delayed again :P.

:lol: I'm a big PS fan and even I wasn't THAT deluded!

Also: To those saying it won't happen for years, just remember- that 7.5 million gap shrunk to a 5/6 milion gap pretty quickly.

Yeah it did. Oh and just so people know, i'm no 360 fan as I own the set this gen but I do love a bit of fanboy baiting :).

If anything i'm a PC kinda guy and the only console i'm struggling to have fun with is the Wii :( (although i LOVE excite truck for some reason).

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Did anyone really expect it to happen in 2006? Anyway my guess is Q3 2009, around September.Stonin

Oh yeah for sure, the biggest Sony supporters were basically saying that it would sell as many at launch as the 360 had in the months prior....then it was delayed again :P.

:lol: I'm a big PS fan and even I wasn't THAT deluded!

Also: To those saying it won't happen for years, just remember- that 7.5 million gap shrunk to a 5/6 milion gap pretty quickly.

Yeah it did. Oh and just so people know, i'm no 360 fan as I own the set this gen but I do love a bit of fanboy baiting :).

If anything i'm a PC kinda guy and the only console i'm struggling to have fun with is the Wii :( (although i LOVE excite truck for some reason).

Yeah it is fun :P

So what about you? What's your prediction?

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#14 thrones
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Yeah it did. Oh and just so people know, i'm no 360 fan as I own the set this gen but I do love a bit of fanboy baiting :).

If anything i'm a PC kinda guy and the only console i'm struggling to have fun with is the Wii :( (although i LOVE excite truck for some reason).

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#15 PS_John
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IMO PS3 has already overtaken the 360

Europe & Japan says hi Lemmings

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#16 Nike_Air
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I would be more curious to see lemmings' predictions of when it will happen , or if it ever happens at all , or how close the ps3 will ever get to the 360.

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#17 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Most cow's will say 2009 but I find it funny how they say this is the year of the ps3 yet wont overake anyone in anything :lol:
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#18 thrones
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IMO PS3 has already overtaken the 360

Europe & Japan says hi Lemmings

PS_John

North America says hi cow.

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#19 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

Yeah it did. Oh and just so people know, i'm no 360 fan as I own the set this gen but I do love a bit of fanboy baiting :).

If anything i'm a PC kinda guy and the only console i'm struggling to have fun with is the Wii :( (although i LOVE excite truck for some reason).

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Aww come on, it kicks butt! :D.

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#20 thrones
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Most cow's will say 2009 but I find it funny how they say this is the year of the ps3 yet wont overake anyone in anything :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Games =/= Installbase.

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#21 Stonin
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IMO PS3 has already overtaken the 360

Europe & Japan says hi Lemmings

PS_John

Ahh you must be including the sale data from Cuckoo Land right?

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#22 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]in sales? by february 2009 the PS3 will have surpassed the 360 if things keep going like thisStonin

Based on what figures? It isn't outselling it worldwide by enough each month to make up the difference...

im thinking on the impact christmas and new year might have, Decemer and January usually sell really well

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#23 sambalimbo
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worldwide it will be fall 2009, NA will be in 2011
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#24 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]in sales? by february 2009 the PS3 will have surpassed the 360 if things keep going like thisst1ka

Based on what figures? It isn't outselling it worldwide by enough each month to make up the difference...

im thinking on the impact christmas and new year might have, Decemer and January usually sell really well

True but the 360 sells well then too. It would need to quadruple sales of the 360 worldwide for like 4 months to even come close and I just can't see it myself. Time will tell though :D.

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#25 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Most cow's will say 2009 but I find it funny how they say this is the year of the ps3 yet wont overake anyone in anything :lol:thrones

Games =/= Installbase.

Im talking about the notion that cows think this is the "ps3's year" when in software and hardware sales it will come in last (again) Maybe by cow standards it will be there year seeing as 2007 was a disaster on almost evry level.
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#26 Hexagon_777
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Sony fanboys and Microsoft fanboys and their sales. :roll:
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#27 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Most cow's will say 2009 but I find it funny how they say this is the year of the ps3 yet wont overake anyone in anything :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Games =/= Installbase.

Im talking about the notion that cows think this is the "ps3's year" when in software and hardware sales it will come in last (again) Maybe by cow standards it will be there year seeing as 2007 was a disaster on almost evry level.

How is the ps3 going to finish last in hardware sales for the year of 2008 ? That is destined to be the 360 unless some miracle happens.

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#28 thrones
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Most cow's will say 2009 but I find it funny how they say this is the year of the ps3 yet wont overake anyone in anything :lol:Nike_Air

Games =/= Installbase.

Im talking about the notion that cows think this is the "ps3's year" when in software and hardware sales it will come in last (again) Maybe by cow standards it will be there year seeing as 2007 was a disaster on almost evry level.

How is the ps3 going to finish last in hardware sales for the year of 2008 ? That is destined to be the 360 unless some miracle happens.

More likely the...PSP when the monster hunter fad dies down in Japan.

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#29 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Most cow's will say 2009 but I find it funny how they say this is the year of the ps3 yet wont overake anyone in anything :lol:Nike_Air

Games =/= Installbase.

Im talking about the notion that cows think this is the "ps3's year" when in software and hardware sales it will come in last (again) Maybe by cow standards it will be there year seeing as 2007 was a disaster on almost evry level.

How is the ps3 going to finish last in hardware sales for the year of 2008 ? That is destined to be the 360 unless some miracle happens.

If the 360 stops production then maybe that will happen but going by the data the ps3 wont outsell the 360 this year. GTA4 didnt help the ps3 overtake the 360 in april so to think that the ps3 is miraculously going to outsell the 360 by the end of this year is WRONG.
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#30 mmogoon
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in sales? by february 2009 the PS3 will have surpassed the 360 if things keep going like thisst1ka

Look at the current sales and think about how much more the PS3 will have to sell every month for it to overtake.

Even if PS3 sells at twice the rate of the 360 (LOL) it would take well over a year to match.

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#31 sambalimbo
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Most cow's will say 2009 but I find it funny how they say this is the year of the ps3 yet wont overake anyone in anything :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Games =/= Installbase.

Im talking about the notion that cows think this is the "ps3's year" when in software and hardware sales it will come in last (again) Maybe by cow standards it will be there year seeing as 2007 was a disaster on almost evry level.

this is still the year of the ps3 because, apart from the superior lineup, it will sell consistently more than 360 worldwide, it wont be enough to pass the 360 cuz of its 1 year lead but nobody said this was the ps3's year because it would pass the 360

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#32 PS_John
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If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..

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#33 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

Yeah it did. Oh and just so people know, i'm no 360 fan as I own the set this gen but I do love a bit of fanboy baiting :).

If anything i'm a PC kinda guy and the only console i'm struggling to have fun with is the Wii :( (although i LOVE excite truck for some reason).

Stonin

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Aww come on, it kicks butt! :D.

No, its awful, i played it at my freinds house for 5 mins then we decided to play something else.
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#34 thrones
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If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..

PS_John

Warranty, I has it.

So does other X360 owners.

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#35 Floppy_Jim
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If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..

PS_John

We have no idea how many 360's have broken.

Although, I do have to wonder how much of that 19 million is due to replacements because of RROD.

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Most cow's will say 2009 but I find it funny how they say this is the year of the ps3 yet wont overake anyone in anything :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Games =/= Installbase.

Im talking about the notion that cows think this is the "ps3's year" when in software and hardware sales it will come in last (again) Maybe by cow standards it will be there year seeing as 2007 was a disaster on almost evry level.

How is the ps3 going to finish last in hardware sales for the year of 2008 ? That is destined to be the 360 unless some miracle happens.

If the 360 stops production then maybe that will happen but going by the data the ps3 wont outsell the 360 this year. GTA4 didnt help the ps3 overtake the 360 in april so to think that the ps3 is miraculously going to outsell the 360 by the end of this year is WRONG.

For the year of 2008 so far ........ the ps3 is ahead in NA (ever so slighly) , clearly ahead in Japan , and estimated to be well ahead in Europe so far ........ and MGS4 is coming up soon which will at least spike the Japan sales a bit for a brief time , so how is the 360 going to manage to finish second for the year ? Maybe a miracle pricedrop and insane NA sales could make up the difference worldwide but I don't really see that happening. The 360 will very likely to finish third for the year , this shouldn't be too hard to acknowledge even for the most hardcore 360 supporters.

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#37 mmogoon
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If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..

PS_John

You know MS repairs broken 360s for free don't you?

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#38 angelkimne
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If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..

PS_John

1.When RRoD happens the console still exists, its just repaired then given back to the owner.

2.Ps3 has 2/3 the size of the 360 install base but sold less than 2/3 the amount of GTA 4 than 360, therefore a higher ratio of 360 owners bought it.

:roll:

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#40 thrones
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]

If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..

angelkimne

1.When RRoD happens the console still exists, its just repaired then given back to the owner.

2.Ps3 has 2/3 the size of the 360 install base but sold less than 2/3 the amount of GTA 4 than 360, therefore a higher ratio of 360 owners bought it.

:roll:

Actually, the second point is wrong. Some rabid cows came and proved it with maths. I checked it, and the attach rate for GTA4 on the PS3 is 3:1 while with the X360 it's around 4:1.

But it still sold more on the X360.

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#41 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..

thrones

1.When RRoD happens the console still exists, its just repaired then given back to the owner.

2.Ps3 has 2/3 the size of the 360 install base but sold less than 2/3 the amount of GTA 4 than 360, therefore a higher ratio of 360 owners bought it.

:roll:

Actually, the second point is wrong. Some rabid cows came and proved it with maths. I checked it, and the attach rate for GTA4 on the PS3 is 3:1 while with the X360 it's around 4:1.

But it still sold more on the X360.

Ok then, but he was claiming that ps3 had a completely better attche rate, which was still wrong.

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#42 Stonin
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..

thrones

1.When RRoD happens the console still exists, its just repaired then given back to the owner.

2.Ps3 has 2/3 the size of the 360 install base but sold less than 2/3 the amount of GTA 4 than 360, therefore a higher ratio of 360 owners bought it.

:roll:

Actually, the second point is wrong. Some rabid cows came and proved it with maths. I checked it, and the attach rate for GTA4 on the PS3 is 3:1 while with the X360 it's around 4:1.

But it still sold more on the X360.

The thing with GTA on PS3 as well is litterally what else is there to buy? That is not to say there isn't a bunch of good games for the PS3 but recently there hasn't been anything major.

I think the PS3 will overtake 360 in worldwide sales by Feb 2010 but I also believe that this is a major defeat for Sony. Going from the undisputed market leader with 50% overall market share to scrapping for second place not long before your competition gets ready to launch its next system...

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#43 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

If it wasn't for the RROD PS3 & 360 sales would be pritty even..
Lets say 30% of 360s break

Using VGAChartz
18,890,000 360s sold

30% of 18,890,000 = 5667000
18,890,000 - 5667000 = 13223000

PS3 has sold 12,610,000

13223000 - 12,610,000 = 613000

So there would have been less than 1 million difference if there was no RROD

Also PS3 has a better attach rate

GTA4 sold 1.85 Million on xbox 360 and 1 million on PS3, this might sound like 360 sold better but it didn't because PS3 has 6 million less consoles than the 360 and yet it only sold 850,000 more on the 360..

angelkimne

1.When RRoD happens the console still exists, its just repaired then given back to the owner.

2.Ps3 has 2/3 the size of the 360 install base but sold less than 2/3 the amount of GTA 4 than 360, therefore a higher ratio of 360 owners bought it.

:roll:

Actually, the second point is wrong. Some rabid cows came and proved it with maths. I checked it, and the attach rate for GTA4 on the PS3 is 3:1 while with the X360 it's around 4:1.

But it still sold more on the X360.

Ok then, but he was claiming that ps3 had a completely better attche rate, which was still wrong.

Attach rate of GTA4, then sure. He's right.

Overall all attach rate = no.

I did some maths when they released the Sony financial information. PS3 attach is around 6.2 to the X360 attach of 7.8

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#44 High_Spy
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This thread is a joke. :lol:
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#45 thrones
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This thread is a joke. :lol:High_Spy

Why exactly? :|

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#46 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="High_Spy"]This thread is a joke. :lol:thrones

Why exactly? :|

I thought it was a pretty serious thread compared to most other SW threads ???

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#47 Lionheart08
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Late 2009, early 2010. The PS3 is already selling more than the 360 worldwide without any killer aps at the moment. I'm expecting big surges in Europe and Japan when Gran Turismo 5 and Final Fantasy XIII are released.
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#48 High_Spy
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[QUOTE="High_Spy"]This thread is a joke. :lol:thrones

Why exactly? :|

Not in terms of hillarity. In that case, the thread is very serious. However, it's a joke simply because the OP is claiming the PS3 will automatically overtake the 360, and he even admitted his original intent was to bait. He made the whole thread trying to lure in some 360 fans, and it just won't work. It's failure at it's finest.