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#1 SoulKillah
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Here's a LINK to the original...8)

Sony is expected to sell up to 1.5 million of its PlayStation 3 consoles in Britain this year, putting it on track to outstrip Nintendo’s cheaper Wii within 12 to 18 months of its launch. The consumer electronics giant has made 220,000 of the £425 consoles available for the UK launch on Friday, a figure so large that retailers are reporting none of the supply problems that have plagued rival launches. However, analysts and retailers have warned against interpreting the absence of a stock squeeze as a negative sign. Nick Parker, an analyst with Screen Digest, said: “The lack of shortage is supply driven; what Sony has shipped will sell. We estimate that Sony will sell around 4 million units in Europe this year, with 1 to 1.5 million in the UK”. Related Links * Mastermind weakened brainchild’s defences The specialist firm believes that Sony’s PlayStation 3 could overtake the Wii– a device aimed at a predominately young audience – during 2008, and possibly towards the end of the year, with Microsoft’s Xbox 360 likely to follow. This is despite the high price of the PlayStation 3 compared with the £180 Wii or £265 Xbox 360. According to retailers, when Microsoft launched the Xbox 360 in 2005, about 70,000 units were available in the UK, while the first day stock of the Nintendo Wii last autumn amounted to 105,000. Both launches were accompanied by stock shortages. A spokesman for Woolworths said of the PlayStation 3: “This is the first console launch for years where we anticipate that we will be able to have consoles available at the day of launch in every single Woolworths store”. When Sony launched the PlayStation 2, it was against the unthreatening backdrop of a flagging Sega Dreamcast platform. This time around, there will be plenty of challenges, with Microsoft making major strides in the console market and Nintendo’s Wii proving an unexpected hit. Some retailers believe that Sony will cut the £425 price of the PlayStation 3 before Christmas. The price reflects the sheer cost of the complex boxes, which include the pricey Blu-ray, high-definition DVD players. However, the recent strengthening of the yen may help justify a price cut. Sony is also able to play the currency game more effectively in Europe and the UK than in the US. The per-machine losses in Europe are more or less negated by currency exchange rates. In the run-up to the PlayStation 3 launch, Xbox 360 sales are only 1 per cent higher than they were at the same time last year, according to Screen Digest, suggesting that demand has peaked. Consoles are expected to hit the highest level of sales in the third and fourth years after their launch. Sony has a lot riding on the powerful PlayStation 3, both in terms of its bottom line and its reputation. But in the four months since the Japanese and US launches of the machine, Sony has gleaned knowledge that will stand it in good stead for a European launch. It has learnt, for example, that nobody really wants the version with the smaller, 20 gigabyte memory, and that the games that work best are the ones that can accommodate a lot of simultaneous online players.
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#2 SyluxElite
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Wall of text = no,no  :P
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#3 SoulKillah
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Wall of text = no,no :PSyluxElite
The wall isn't "That" big...
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#4 SyluxElite
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[QUOTE="SyluxElite"]Wall of text = no,no :PSoulKillah
The wall isn't "That" big...

To all their own I quess. :D To me it is. Summary please. :D
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#5 X360PS3AMD05
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Wall of text = no,no :PSyluxElite
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#6 SyluxElite
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[QUOTE="SyluxElite"]Wall of text = no,no :PX360PS3AMD05

Danm, I'm insulted. :evil: That was uncalled for.
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#7 haris12121212
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[QUOTE="SyluxElite"]Wall of text = no,no :PX360PS3AMD05

Lame pciture, you should've posted that gif of a guy in it saying I didn't read with a weird smiling face
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#8 X360PS3AMD05
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"][QUOTE="SyluxElite"]Wall of text = no,no :PSyluxElite

Danm, I'm insulted. :evil: That was uncalled for.

I was agreeing with you dude :P
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#9 SoulKillah
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I highlited the Important parts of the story...
[QUOTE="SoulKillah"][QUOTE="SyluxElite"]Wall of text = no,no :PSyluxElite
The wall isn't "That" big...

To all their own I quess. :D To me it is. Summary please. :D

I highlited the Important parts of the story...Happy?:D
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#10 haris12121212
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Everything else seems possible indeed but the last alst part "It has learnt, for example, that nobody really wants the version with the smaller, 20 gigabyte memory, and that the games that work best are the ones that can accommodate a lot of simultaneous online players." Did I understood right, everyone wants the 60Gb version instead of the 20Gb one?
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good luck to em
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#12 SyluxElite
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I highlited the Important parts of the story...[QUOTE="SyluxElite"][QUOTE="SoulKillah"][QUOTE="SyluxElite"]Wall of text = no,no :PSoulKillah
The wall isn't "That" big...

To all their own I quess. :D To me it is. Summary please. :D

I highlited the Important parts of the story...Happy?:D

Yes. :D
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#13 SyluxElite
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[QUOTE="SyluxElite"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"][QUOTE="SyluxElite"]Wall of text = no,no :PX360PS3AMD05

Danm, I'm insulted. :evil: That was uncalled for.

I was agreeing with you dude :P

Hard to tell. :?
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#14 StryderK
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Now, where have I heard all of this before? Ohh, yes, U.S. And Japan launch.

**Look at January NPD***

**OHHH SNAP!**

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#15 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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first of all, learnt isn't a word... and second of all, this is all speculation... it's all, ps3 MIGHT, ps3 COULD, ps3 MABYE POTENTIAL station 3 i doubt it will do anything above.
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#16 Gaara79
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Of course they are gonna forecast that.

Doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

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#17 SoulKillah
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[QUOTE="haris12121212"]Everything else seems possible indeed but the last alst part "It has learnt, for example, that nobody really wants the version with the smaller, 20 gigabyte memory, and that the games that work best are the ones that can accommodate a lot of simultaneous online players." Did I understood right, everyone wants the 60Gb version instead of the 20Gb one?

I prefer the 60G over the 20G...
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#18 venture00
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Sony'll not sell a lot of consoles in europe , here in Finland ps3 will cost around 850Euros and i dont know in other countries but i expecting almost the same price!
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#19 SoulKillah
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Sony'll not sell a lot of consoles in europe , here in Finland ps3 will cost around 850Euros and i dont know in other countries but i expecting almost the same price!venture00
I think Scandinevia is the only zone in europe that sells 850$+ Ps3s...rest of Europe is 600$...
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#20 mwa
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Of course they are gonna forecast that.

Doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

Gaara79

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#21 Dahaka-UK
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Wall of text = no,no :PSyluxElite


The wall has paragraphs.. so it's ok for us none lazy people.
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#22 venture00
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[QUOTE="venture00"]Sony'll not sell a lot of consoles in europe , here in Finland ps3 will cost around 850Euros and i dont know in other countries but i expecting almost the same price!SoulKillah
I think Scandinevia is the only zone in europe that sells 850$+ Ps3s...rest of Europe is 600$...



thats the problem i dont know why, here in finland the money is EUROS it should cost the same as the other countries :S but its 850Euros
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#23 SoulKillah
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[QUOTE="SoulKillah"][QUOTE="venture00"]Sony'll not sell a lot of consoles in europe , here in Finland ps3 will cost around 850Euros and i dont know in other countries but i expecting almost the same price!venture00
I think Scandinevia is the only zone in europe that sells 850$+ Ps3s...rest of Europe is 600$...



thats the problem i dont know why, here in finland the money is EUROS it should cost the same as the other countries :S but its 850Euros

Why don't you ask the Playstation site for precise Infos about the Ps3 in your region...maybe that will help you know what's going on with the high pricing...
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#24 Guiltfeeder566
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I predict fialure over super high price. Also if M$ has a price drop between now and Christamas its all over.
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#25 sumo1973
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Really? What like they did in North America and Japan?

Sony can forecast whatever it wants and yes Europe bought a lot of PS2's but that doesn't always mean brand loyality for the next console to take over. Europe has come third yet again with a slow PS3 launch, software BC and only a 60 GB model available means that people will have to think before they part with their money.

At this moment the Xbox 360 and Wii look better alternatives.

Let's see what happens when the console is released later on this week.

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#26 SoulKillah
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I predict fialure over super high price. Also if M$ has a price drop between now and Christamas its all over.Guiltfeeder566
I think Ps3 has a good chance of gaining ground with the European release! it might really boost its sales by a lot!
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#27 toxicmog
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he he! So Uk has enough PS3s in stock xD So much for massive pre orders :O
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#28 SoulKillah
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[QUOTE="toxicmog"]he he! So Uk has enough PS3s in stock xD So much for massive pre orders :O

Well...atleast people in the UK can be sure to get their Ps3 in time...isn't that good?
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#29 2largeadults
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[QUOTE="SoulKillah"][QUOTE="toxicmog"]he he! So Uk has enough PS3s in stock xD So much for massive pre orders :O

Well...atleast people in the UK can be sure to get their Ps3 in time...isn't that good?

I know. I would have liked one during the US launch. Had to wait until late Feb 2007 to pair my Xbox360 with a PS3 :)
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#30 Danm_999
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I really don't see why they expect it to do any better in Europe than NA and Japan, especially since it's much more expensive in Europe and has inferior backward compatibility.
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#31 SapSacPrime
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Sony's name or at least the Playstation brand has taken a hammering in the UK and with the most recent being our inferior backwards catalogue even though we get to pay more.  Unlike past problems with for instance the PS2 this news has actually been made very public and appeared in main stream news, so I expect to see much of what has already happened in America as for as PS3 sales go.

I can't think of a reason for microsoft to not drop the 360's price right now and get an early start on hammering some nails in the PS3's coffin, this is one of those moments I feel we may look back on (if the PS3 does indeed outsell the 360 like last gen) and say thats when they should have dropped the price.

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[QUOTE="venture00"]Sony'll not sell a lot of consoles in europe , here in Finland ps3 will cost around 850Euros and i dont know in other countries but i expecting almost the same price!SoulKillah
I think Scandinevia is the only zone in europe that sells 850$+ Ps3s...rest of Europe is 600$...



Yeah but everything else here is more expensive as well, we got very, very high wellfare and high taxes (25%) in Sweden, I belive Norway gets the most expensive ones here since they are on top, a pizza there costs like 15 US dollars.
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[QUOTE="SoulKillah"][QUOTE="SyluxElite"]Wall of text = no,no :PSyluxElite
The wall isn't "That" big...

To all their own I quess. :D To me it is. Summary please. :D

it takes less than 2 mins to read it..... if you aint willing dont post, it's as simple as that.
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#34 frans636
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[QUOTE="SoulKillah"][QUOTE="venture00"]Sony'll not sell a lot of consoles in europe , here in Finland ps3 will cost around 850Euros and i dont know in other countries but i expecting almost the same price!njpj
I think Scandinevia is the only zone in europe that sells 850$+ Ps3s...rest of Europe is 600$...



Yeah but everything else here is more expensive as well, we got very, very high wellfare and high taxes (25%) in Sweden, I belive Norway gets the most expensive ones here since they are on top, a pizza there costs like 15 US dollars.

Look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3#Release_data_and_pricing

most European countrys have a price of 800$us.

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#35 Mister_Bate
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Europeans will love the Blu ray

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#36 SoulKillah
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I really don't see why they expect it to do any better in Europe than NA and Japan, especially since it's much more expensive in Europe and has inferior backward compatibility.Danm_999
They're fixing the BC with an update...anyway,it costs 599 euros in Europe,so i don't really see how its more expensive...
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#37 DKII
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Yeah, I remember the "Sony forecast" about having 2 million units at launch and selling 6 million by March, too. I don't really understand what makes them think they'll sell more in Europe in one day than they have since launch in NA.
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]I really don't see why they expect it to do any better in Europe than NA and Japan, especially since it's much more expensive in Europe and has inferior backward compatibility.SoulKillah
They're fixing the BC with an update...anyway,it costs 599 euros in Europe,so i don't really see how its more expensive...

€599 = approx. $800. How is that not more expensive?
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#39 Ontain
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Yeah, I remember the "Sony forecast" about having 2 million units at launch and selling 6 million by March, too. I don't really understand what makes them think they'll sell more in Europe in one day than they have since launch in NA.DKII
seriously. who cares what they predict? they are wrong more than they are right.
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#40 gromit007
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Ummmm......OK

Nice math they are doing. If the forcast numbers are right, Sony could take over the Wii in sales within a year...IF...the Wii doesnt sell a single console during that time.

And IMO...the PS3 will fail in Europe.

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#41 Dreams-Visions
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I didn't know the brits say "learnt" instead of "learned".
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#42 OhhSnap50893
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Sony also estimated that they would destroy the competition this gen. I wouldn't trust any of Sony's "estimations" if I were you ...
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#43 VideoGameGuy
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They sure have a lot of units at launch... They probably just took all the overstock from the U.S. and Japan and shipped it to Europe, Sony is probably hoping they won't collect dust there i guess. Good luck Sony!
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it's really sad when cows are left with nothing but more empty promises....:lol:
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it's really sad when cows are left with nothing but more empty promises....:lol:tango90101
Yeah...and how lemmings are left with faulty 360s that never get repaired:lol:
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]it's really sad when cows are left with nothing but more empty promises....:lol:SoulKillah
Yeah...and how lemmings are left with faulty 360s that never get repaired:lol:

sorry, but MS is offering free repairs and replacements where needed...

u phail... :lol:

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interesting.. I can only speculate that the PS3 will be a success in Europe simply because it's popular over in that region.. But all of these sources have to understand that the year headstart has given M$ a slight edge... Sure It's sales are pretty solid but once M$ drops the price of the 360 by mid/late this year(quote me) the competition will either have to follow suit (and take a hit financially) or compete with a cheaper well established system... 
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[QUOTE="SoulKillah"][QUOTE="tango90101"]it's really sad when cows are left with nothing but more empty promises....:lol:tango90101

Yeah...and how lemmings are left with faulty 360s that never get repaired:lol:

sorry, but MS is offering free repairs and replacements where needed...

u phail... :lol:

Yeah...and after repairing the 360s 6 times,they tell you that your warranty is over and you can't repair them anymore:lol:
Oops...you fail!
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="SoulKillah"][QUOTE="tango90101"]it's really sad when cows are left with nothing but more empty promises....:lol:SoulKillah

Yeah...and how lemmings are left with faulty 360s that never get repaired:lol:

sorry, but MS is offering free repairs and replacements where needed...

u phail... :lol:

Yeah...and after repairing the 360s 6 times,they tell you that your warranty is over and you can't repair them anymore:lol:

6 times?   riiiiight...:lol:

begone fanboy...

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#50 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="SoulKillah"][QUOTE="tango90101"]it's really sad when cows are left with nothing but more empty promises....:lol:SoulKillah

Yeah...and how lemmings are left with faulty 360s that never get repaired:lol:

sorry, but MS is offering free repairs and replacements where needed...

u phail... :lol:

Yeah...and after repairing the 360s 6 times,they tell you that your warranty is over and you can't repair them anymore:lol:

Who the bloody hell has had their 360 repaired 6 times... I wanna know..