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#1 deadruler08
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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/10/11/an-important-message-from-sonys-chief-information-security-officer/ Apparently up to 90,000 accounts may have been compromised but are now locked down
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We want to let you know that we have detected attempts on Sony Entertainment Network, PlayStation Network and Sony Online Entertainment ("Networks") services to test a massive set of sign-in IDs and passwords against our network database. These attempts appear to include a large amount of data obtained from one or more compromised lists from other companies, sites or other sources. In this case, given that the data tested against our network consisted of sign-in ID-password pairs, and that the overwhelming majority of the pairs resulted in failed matching attempts, it is likely the data came from another source and not from our Networks. We have taken steps to mitigate the activity.

Less than one tenth of one percent (0.1%) of our PSN, SEN and SOE audience may have been affected. There were approximately 93,000 accounts globally (PSN/SEN: approximately 60,000 accounts; SOE: approximately 33,000) where the attempts succeeded in verifying those accounts' valid sign-in IDs and passwords, and we have temporarily locked these accounts. Only a small fraction of these 93,000 accounts showed additional activity prior to being locked. We are currently reviewing those accounts for unauthorized access, and will provide more updates as we have them. Please note, if you have a credit card associated with your account, your credit card number is not at risk. We will work with any users whom we confirm have had unauthorized purchases made to restore amounts in the PSN/SEN or SOE wallet.

As a preventative measure, we are requiring secure password resets for those PSN/SEN accounts that had both a sign-in ID and password match through this attempt. If you are in the small group of PSN/SEN users who may have been affected, you will receive an email from us at the address associated with your account that will prompt you to reset your password.

Similarly, the SOE accounts that were matched have been temporarily turned off. If you are among the small group of affected SOE customers, you will receive an email from us at the address associated with your account that will advise you on next steps in order to validate your account credentials and have your account turned back on.

We want to take this opportunity to remind our consumers about the increasingly common threat of fraudulent activity online, as well as the importance of having a strong password and having a username/password combination that is not associated with other online services or sites. We encourage you to choose unique, hard-to-guess passwords and always look for unusual activity in your account.Article

Here's the article for those of you who don't want to copy the link.

Let's hope the activity doesn't extend beyond the 93,000 people.

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#3 kris9031998
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Wow, again?
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#4 HaloPimp978
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Seriously people need to get a life, hackers are the worst species on this planet.

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#5 Blabadon
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Heh. :( Such a good year for gaming, ruined by douches.
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#6 ShadowDeathX
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At least Sony did something this time....
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#7 phantomblade220
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Looks like the new chief of security is going to have his work cut out for him lol.

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#8 eboyishere
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It's never gonna end tbh, tho idk what this says about sony that it happened again
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#9 deadruler08
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I'm just hoping the new firewalls will prevent a full blown cyber attack. Not sure what the motives of these hackers are this time. My guess is they're just bored
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#10 campzor
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*waits for people to blame sony for something they didnt do*
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#11 el3m2tigre
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This is what they should've done last time. And according to that article, it wasn't actually a hack attempt.

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#12 deadruler08
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This is what they should've done last time. And according to that article, it wasn't actually a hack attempt.

el3m2tigre
To hack means to break into. They broke into up to 90,000 accounts.
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#13 savagetwinkie
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*waits for people to blame sony for something they didnt do*campzor
well thats the problem, they didn't do security... at least correctly if at all.
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#14 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

This is what they should've done last time. And according to that article, it wasn't actually a hack attempt.

deadruler08
To hack means to break into. They broke into up to 90,000 accounts.

they didn't break into them if they were just trying to sign on with data from another area. Its like "social hacking" or w/e its called where someone gave you there password.
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#15 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

This is what they should've done last time. And according to that article, it wasn't actually a hack attempt.

deadruler08

To hack means to break into. They broke into up to 90,000 accounts.

Yes but it states that the username/password combos were obtained from a different source.

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#16 arbitor365
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Seriously people need to get a life, hackers are the worst species on this planet.

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i agree

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#17 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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*waits for people to blame sony for something they didnt do*campzor

Well the new system had major flaws as well. I would put my blame on sony.

Seriously people need to get a life, hackers are the worst species on this planet.

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I think people with moral panic needs to get a life to.

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#18 CaseyWegner
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*waits for people to blame sony for something they didnt do*campzor

such as?

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#19 arbitor365
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and before people blame sony for failing to protect security, read the article

these "hackers" took usernames and password combos from other sites which had been compromised and attempted to use all of them in a trial and error procedure to seize control of some PSN accounts. this yeilded results because some people use the same username and passwords for all sites and thus there are bound to be a good handfull of them who did the same with PSN. this has nothing to do with sony's security

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#20 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"]*waits for people to blame sony for something they didnt do*CaseyWegner

such as?

such as what? People are going to blame sony over the hackers...again. Its like someone locking their window and a burglar grabs a brick and smashes the window to get in and blaming the house owner
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#21 Plagueless
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]*waits for people to blame sony for something they didnt do*campzor

such as?

such as what? People are going to blame sony over the hackers...again. Its like someone locking their window and a burglar grabs a brick and smashes the window to get in and blaming the house owner

No, in sony's case it was like leaving the window open with just the screen between the burglar. (Representing sony's outdated firewalls) Its not that the hack was sony's fault, its just they did'nt prepare for something that is as common as crap on the internet. They have to be called out for their lack of preparedness, otherwise it would happen all over again. Hopefully thougb this is no biggie qnd sony has the right stuff to deql with it this time.
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Here come the analogies again. :(

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#23 exiledsnake
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Can somebody explain what Sony could have done to prevent this mass-password-matching hacking? Then I know what Sony isn't doing to protect my PSN account.
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#24 almasdeathchild
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huh glad i can pitch 5$ keep this from happening SUCKAS!

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#25 hippiesanta
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Go hack some dictactor's around the wold website...... leave sony alone
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#26 POPEYE1716
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huh glad i can pitch 5$ keep this from happening SUCKAS!

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yea but you could put that money towards reading lessons, because you obviously did not read the article.
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#27 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

huh glad i can pitch 5$ keep this from happening SUCKAS!

POPEYE1716

yea but you could put that money towards reading lessons, because you obviously did not read the article.

call it ignorant but sometimes i read the title and post :P thats just me

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#28 Nonstop-Madness
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Sony's new security chief wasDirector of the National Cyber Security Centerfor the United StatesDepartment of Homeland Security. There is massive pressure on Sony to secure there info because they are making a big push with there new online entertainment services like PSN/ Qriocity etc. The massive hacking situation won't happen again .... a corporation like Sony would spend a ton of money so it doesn't happen again.

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#29 el3m2tigre
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Can somebody explain what Sony could have done to prevent this mass-password-matching hacking? Then I know what Sony isn't doing to protect my PSN account.exiledsnake

Well, sony could only do so much. I mean if you're using the same user/pass on pretty much every other place and people get a hold of that information then it's pretty much your fault.

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#30 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]*waits for people to blame sony for something they didnt do*campzor

such as?

such as what? People are going to blame sony over the hackers...again. Its like someone locking their window and a burglar grabs a brick and smashes the window to get in and blaming the house owner

Both are at fault, the man should've had security precautions and the burglar, well we don't like burglars anyways. I hate hackers! Whole bunch of no lifes!! :x
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#31 arbitor365
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like I predicted, virtually none of you are reading the article and have any clue what you are talking about

this isnt a fault of sony's firewall or a system security breach at all. this is people taking leaked usernames/passwords from unrelated sites and trying them, trial and error, to get some matches. they could easily do the same thing to XBL and they probably are doing that as we speak. not that microsoft would address such a thing considering how they ignored the rampant account phishing schemes for years.

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#32 AiurProtoss
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Hey I guess sony has been beefing up security, only 93,000 instead of 70,000,000. LMAO!
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#33 Chris_Williams
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like I predicted, virtually none of you are reading the article and have any clue what you are talking about

this isnt a fault of sony's firewall or a system security breach at all. this is people taking leaked usernames/passwords from unrelated sites and trying them, trial and error, to get some matches. they could easily do the same thing to XBL and they probably are doing that as we speak. not that microsoft would address such a thing considering how they ignored the rampant account phishing schemes for years.

arbitor365
this is system wars, they don't read here.
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#34 linkin_guy109
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for every body in this whole topic, minus like 4 people, you need to learn to read before you speak, this wasnt a security flaw, this was a social engineering hack

IE: the hackers obtained this login information from another site (not related to sony in any way), this means the following, the hackers used the login emails from another site, and tried to use those passwords from that other site to login to psn with them

THIS WAS NOT A SECURITY FLAW ON SONY'S PART

i was tempted to quote everyone who decided to not read the article, but i thought i may get moderated for it

so for future reference, everyone (minus like 4 people) in this thread should facepalm themselves a little bit right now

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#35 KevinPlanet
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It's never gonna end tbh, tho idk what this says about sony that it happened againeboyishere

It didn't happen again, someone took a list of usernames and passwords from a seperate website then attempted to log-in on each of those usernames. Sony saw that someone was doing this and locked out each username that had been taken and sent an email to each of the users to change his or her password. Whats of note here is that Sony was able to lock out these people and felt the need to inform users. They weren't able to do that pre-April

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#36 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="campzor"]*waits for people to blame sony for something they didnt do*savagetwinkie
well thats the problem, they didn't do security... at least correctly if at all.

PSN: in only does insecurity. :P

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#37 KevinPlanet
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for every body in this whole topic, minus like 4 people, you need to learn to read before you speak, this wasnt a security flaw, this was a social engineering hack

IE: the hackers obtained this login information from another site (not related to sony in any way), this means the following, the hackers used the login emails from another site, and tried to use those passwords from that other site to login to psn with them

THIS WAS NOT A SECURITY FLAW ON SONY'S PART

i was tempted to quote everyone who decided to not read the article, but i thought i may get moderated for it

so for future reference, everyone (minus like 4 people) in this thread should facepalm themselves a little bit right now

linkin_guy109

This.

I have no doubt that people will blow this way over proportion. The Wall Street Journal already has an article on it...people need to learn to read carefully.

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#38 super600  Moderator
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Wow!Someone attempted to get user names from another site to hack through PSN again.

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#39 KevinPlanet
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Can somebody explain what Sony could have done to prevent this mass-password-matching hacking? Then I know what Sony isn't doing to protect my PSN account.exiledsnake

Apparently you can't read thoroughly...

He clearly states, that they LOCKED OUT the usernames that were being accessed, which he described were in the realm of 90,000 that had been acquired from a seperate website. Nothing on the network was actually hacked

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#40 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Glad Sony is on top of this, and responded promptly.
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#41 exiledsnake
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[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]Can somebody explain what Sony could have done to prevent this mass-password-matching hacking? Then I know what Sony isn't doing to protect my PSN account.KevinPlanet

Apparently you can't read thoroughly...

He clearly states, that they LOCKED OUT the usernames that were being accessed, which he described were in the realm of 90,000 that had been acquired from a seperate website. Nothing on the network was actually hacked

Sorry, I think I worded it wrongly. I'm just pointing out that there's nothing much that Sony could have done to prevent this since the source of the leaked info isn't from Sony. unless of course, somebody can prove otherwise.
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#42 WiiMan21
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I just learned back in the ol' days not to keep anything like my credit card info on my account.

If someone knows my name or where I live, sure have fun with that. xP

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#43 KevinPlanet
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[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]Can somebody explain what Sony could have done to prevent this mass-password-matching hacking? Then I know what Sony isn't doing to protect my PSN account.exiledsnake

Apparently you can't read thoroughly...

He clearly states, that they LOCKED OUT the usernames that were being accessed, which he described were in the realm of 90,000 that had been acquired from a seperate website. Nothing on the network was actually hacked

Sorry, I think I worded it wrongly. I'm just pointing out that there's nothing much that Sony could have done to prevent this since the source of the leaked info isn't from Sony. unless of course, somebody can prove otherwise.

Its understandable. It seems most on here are in the fanboy-ish mood, rather than the read and comprehend one. The IGN article headline or subject line doesn't even bother to mention that they locked out the usernames.

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#44 Tykain
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A lot of people in this thread should worry about their reading comprehension rather than Sony's security. Not sure what's to blame tho, the education system or their gene pool.
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#45 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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It's never gonna end tbh, tho idk what this says about sony that it happened againeboyishere
It says a lot of good, since they found out about the shenanigans right away, stopped the attempt and told the user base. Nothing to see here folks, move along
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#46 delta3074
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]*waits for people to blame sony for something they didnt do*campzor

such as?

such as what? People are going to blame sony over the hackers...again. Its like someone locking their window and a burglar grabs a brick and smashes the window to get in and blaming the house owner

actually ,it's more like somebody breaking into a bank and blaming the bank for not securing the premises enough,the burglers are ultimately to blame but the bank has to share some portion of that blame for not having good enough security, 90,000 is still bad but it shows that SONY is moving in the right direction and there security is improving, i would give them the benefit of the doubt, they are learning from there mistake and rome wasn't built in a day.
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#47 linkin_guy109
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

such as?

delta3074

such as what? People are going to blame sony over the hackers...again. Its like someone locking their window and a burglar grabs a brick and smashes the window to get in and blaming the house owner

actually ,it's more like somebody breaking into a bank and blaming the bank for not securing the premises enough,the burglers are ultimately to blame but the bank has to share some portion of that blame for not having good enough security, 90,000 is still bad but it shows that SONY is moving in the right direction and there security is improving, i would give them the benefit of the doubt, they are learning from there mistake and rome wasn't built in a day.

i think that you may have misread the article, sony has no fault in this whatsoever, the only people at fault is an unnamed site that got hacked in which the 90k pass info was acquired from, and that login information was being compared by the hackers with those peoples psn logins to see if they were the same, thats what sony was announcing they made it very clear that the site which actually was hacked was not their own

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#48 shinrabanshou
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Good god.... Analogy ad nauseum time?

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#49 kage_53
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Thank god I started buying PSN cards after last time this happened. That's all I have to say.
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#50 StrongDeadlift
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For the people who are undoubtedly not going to read, somebody stole massive lists of sign in IDs from OTHER sources/websites, and through social engineering, tried to test all of those sign-in IDs on the PSN to see if they were the same. Its the same as if they tried to fish somebodys facebook password, and tried to see if the person had the same password on PSN.