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#101 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="CyanX73"]Isn't it "on lockdown" and not in lockdown? Just wondering. PBSnipes
you sir, would be correct.

I always thought it was locked down.

any of these is correct:

"Sony has 2007 on lockdown."

"Sony has 2007 locked down."

"Sony has 2007 locked."

"Sony has 2007 on lock."

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#102 SegArgyle
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[QUOTE="CyanX73"]Isn't it "on lockdown" and not in lockdown? Just wondering. Dreams-Visions
you sir, would be correct.

lol oh my god, where did u get that small video of that kid getting the roundhouse, good lord, I'd like to see that on youtube, what idiot parents

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#103 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="CyanX73"]Isn't it "on lockdown" and not in lockdown? Just wondering. SegArgyle

you sir, would be correct.

lol oh my god, where did u get that small video of that kid getting the roundhouse, good lord, I'd like to see that on youtube, what idiot parents

I sir, find the best sig pics on earth. 8)

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#104 SegArgyle
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actually sony has left the door wide open, and lost the key
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#105 Private_Vegas
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A pretty sweet line-up you've put together there. Hopefully Sony can use this momentum to make up for their 6 months of doddling.
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#106 gamer4life85
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Unreal Tournament 07-Epic never said it was time exclusive to PS3 so I don't know why everyone says it is untill they come out and say its timed on ps3 it is releasing on 360 and ps3 the same time.

Ubisoft just released their release dates for there games coming out this year and guess what HaZe is coming on 360 the same day as PS3

NG Sigma is pretty much the same game as NG Black which xbox owners played like 3.5 yrs ago.

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#107 Private_Vegas
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[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="CyanX73"]Isn't it "on lockdown" and not in lockdown? Just wondering. Dreams-Visions

you sir, would be correct.

lol oh my god, where did u get that small video of that kid getting the roundhouse, good lord, I'd like to see that on youtube, what idiot parents

I sir, find the best sig pics on earth. 8)

Haha I saw that story on the news. They showed it like 6 times in super slow mo. Pricless.

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#108 SegArgyle
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Unreal Tournament 07-Epic never said it was time exclusive to PS3 so I don't know why everyone says it is untill they come out and say its timed on ps3 it is releasing on 360 and ps3 the same time.

Ubisoft just released their release dates for there games coming out this year and get what HaZe is coming on 360 the same day as PS3

NG Sigma is pretty much the same game as NG Black which xbox owners played like 3.5 yrs ago.

gamer4life85

exactly, ps3 is the rehashstation, who cares if u play as the chick, and the graphics thats nice but whatever, been there done that

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#109 ApocalypseXIVV
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[QUOTE="LeDavester"][QUOTE="tree-branch"][QUOTE="LeDavester"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

no that list was terrible

360 does with

mass effect

halo 3

forza 2

blue dragon

enternal sonta

pgr4

fable 2

splinter cell conviction

ace combat

americas army

banjo

dead or alive 5

lost oddesey

Dualshockin



SIR, don't make me list some ps3 2008 exclusives now. Your Fable 2 is due for 2008, PGR4 has no release date, and i did not list the exclusives that are alreadyout for ps3 yet so you can remove forza 2 from the list, and banjo kazooie for 360 has no release date.

you didnt name any exlusives for the ps3 this year because it has no great ones and you said 2007.and remove haze timed or not its not an exlusive and the dirctor said that fable 2 is due at the end of 07 and you can expect is for banjo as well.

and i forgot too human.



well i trust in gamespot, and it seems like your fable 2 is showed as 2008, and banjo kazooie is TBA and so is PGR4. so talk to gamespot if you got a problem with that.

And don't forget,Mass Effect may be delayed again,if it turns out to be a 2008 title then that list is basically bland IMO.

ME has never been delayed since they never gave a date, and its not going to miss the christmas bonanza...nice try though pushing back the games ur afraid to compete with

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#110 HappyInvader101
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wow umm....impressive?
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#111 imapieceofwood
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[QUOTE="cmpepper23"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

no that list was terrible

360 does with

mass effect

halo 3

forza 2

blue dragon

enternal sonta

pgr4

fable 2

splinter cell conviction

ace combat

americas army

banjo

dead or alive 5

lost oddesey

tree-branch

The only two worth playing on this list is Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey and maybe Splinter Cell. Those are the only ones I will play anyhow.

poor taste of games for you then.

I would play everything but PGR 4, Forza, dead or alive, ace combat, enternal sonta. Im not sure about blue dragon. As for the PS3 I would play everything. So IMO Ps3 lineup is greater than the 360 lineup

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#112 SemiMaster
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Please for the love of god tell me that was Time Crisis 4 from the arcade graphics... because those suck bad, or you need to find better images.
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#113 Sup11722
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Haha i almost lauged when i saw this

These games will be pretty hardcore but not good enuf to attract casual gamers once agn leaving sony behind in the dust

It needs a big popular franchise to come out like halo that appeals to all

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#114 mikasa
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Where's the lockdown? 360 is way better than that.
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#115 OGTiago
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Dispite the 2 that are multiplat, only drakes and NGS appeal to me. I will wait for reviews with the other games.
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#116 Sacred-Snow
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That line-up lacks diversity. Most of them are action or shooter games. It's not a bad list, but c'mon - Ninja Gaiden is essentially a 2004 game, Ratchet and Clank is recycling it's old formula that I got bored with after R&C3, UT 2007 will be better on PC (mod community and patchesproves this), and Time Crisis 4 I can play on the arcade (there's one right where I live).Optusnet

I hope your not a lemming trying to say games are reusing old formulas, because look at halo 3...

no that list was terrible

360 does with

mass effect

halo 3

forza 2

blue dragon

enternal sonta

pgr4

fable 2

splinter cell conviction

ace combat

americas army

banjo

dead or alive 5

lost oddesey

tree-branch

Take off Blue Dragon... looks bad.

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#117 Dreams-Visions
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Take off Blue Dragon... looks bad.

Sacred-Snow

que? :|

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#118 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="Optusnet"]That line-up lacks diversity. Most of them are action or shooter games. It's not a bad list, but c'mon - Ninja Gaiden is essentially a 2004 game, Ratchet and Clank is recycling it's old formula that I got bored with after R&C3, UT 2007 will be better on PC (mod community and patchesproves this), and Time Crisis 4 I can play on the arcade (there's one right where I live).Sacred-Snow

I hope your not a lemming trying to say games are reusing old formulas, because look at halo 3...

no that list was terrible

360 does with

mass effect

halo 3

forza 2

blue dragon

enternal sonta

pgr4

fable 2

splinter cell conviction

ace combat

americas army

banjo

dead or alive 5

lost oddesey

tree-branch

Take off Blue Dragon... looks bad.

My understanding is that its scored pretty well in Japan, and that it exceeded sales expectations.
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#119 Neal_Gore
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I find it great that people still have hope for the Ps3 even though it doesn't have a chance in hell.

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#120 50u1r34v3r
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Although I will most likely get a 360 before a PS3 (if ever)

I must say that list looks great.

Why have I not noticed Folklore before?

From what I see in that picture it looks like my kind of game.

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#121 DuDisNow
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HEADS UP:
This list is subject to change at any given time if Microsoft at any momentdecides they want to pay 50 million dollars to third party companies developing games such as Haze, UT3,Time Crisis 4 with Gun Con 3, and NGS.

PS3 EXCLUSIVES COMING OUT IN 2007


LAIR:
lair
HEAVENLY SWORD:
hs
TIME CRISIS 4 WITH GUNCON 3:
tc
UNCHARTED DRAKES FORTUNE:
uncharted
NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA:
NGt
Timed exclusive: HAZE:
hze
FOLKLORE:
folklore
WARHAWK:
wh
Unfinished Graphics: SOCOM CONFRONTATION:
socom333
HOME:
home
RATCHET AND CLANK TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION:
rac33333
Timed Exclusive: Unreal Tournament 3:

it3
Eye of the Judgement:
eoj

I AM SORRY IF I MISSED ANYMORE EXCLUSIVES/TIMED EXLUSIVES.LeDavester
7 of those 13 games are just plain dumb. But I will give Sony credit that they are going to have good games this fall. But UT3 is not a timed-exclusive, it will be out on the 360 this fall too.
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#122 Dreams-Visions
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Although I will most likely get a 360 before a PS3 (if ever)

I must say that list looks great.

Why have I not noticed Folklore before?

From what I see in that picture it looks like my kind of game.

50u1r34v3r

folklore is terrible. get a Japanese account and download the demo. you'll be disgusted.

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#123 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="SegArgyle"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="CyanX73"]Isn't it "on lockdown" and not in lockdown? Just wondering. Dreams-Visions

you sir, would be correct.

lol oh my god, where did u get that small video of that kid getting the roundhouse, good lord, I'd like to see that on youtube, what idiot parents

I sir, find the best sig pics on earth. 8)

True Story he does

I like the one with the old man going to grab that girls A^&* but stop cuz of the writing on his hand

I lol

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#124 Zenkuso
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[QUOTE="50u1r34v3r"]

Although I will most likely get a 360 before a PS3 (if ever)

I must say that list looks great.

Why have I not noticed Folklore before?

From what I see in that picture it looks like my kind of game.

Dreams-Visions

folklore is terrible. get a Japanese account and download the demo. you'll be disgusted.

You better be joking dream, i already paid for import!

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#125 tag_001
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I'm sorry but the exclusives list sucks, Time Crysis? WTF?

They need to get GoW 3, GT5 and MGS4 out ASAP if they want me to get a PS3 anytime soon

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#127 mattyomo99
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FFXIII and versus, and mgs4??

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#128 CyanX73
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I'm sorry but the exclusives list sucks, Time Crysis? WTF?

They need to get GoW 3, GT5 and MGS4 out ASAP if they want me to get a PS3 anytime soon

tag_001

Exactly what every prior PS2 owner is saying. If the visuals won't blow away the 360 like Xbox did PS2, then the games have to be there. Something has to justify the 600 dollar investment. Looks like Phil Harrison isn't long for his position because he really blew the PS3 launch. Didn't he learn anything from Neo Geo or 3DO?

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#129 osirisomeomi
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The problem with this list is that it's a series of really fun games, but there are no big system sellers. Don't get me wrong, they look great, but I'm not seeing the average consumer saying 'oh yeah, i've got to buy the PS3 now!'. The PS# needs a big price drop and a big list of AAA games to get out of its slump.
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#130 CrzyAzzCraka
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Haha...I would buy a 360 just so I could play AC6 a couple of months sooner...even though I already have one.
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#131 tango90101
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nothing here that warrants $600...sorry..:(

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#132 vitonemesis
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TC where the **** his MGS4?
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#133 CJL13
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TC where the **** his MGS4?vitonemesis

It might come in 08, there's no official release date.

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#134 Devouring_One
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those games still dont convince me to get a ps3
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#135 blacktorn
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360's line-up this year blows ps3's out of the water.

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#136 ApocalypseXIVV
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[QUOTE="tree-branch"]

no that list was terrible

360 does with

mass effect

halo 3

forza 2

blue dragon

enternal sonta

pgr4

fable 2

splinter cell conviction

ace combat

americas army

banjo

dead or alive 5

lost oddesey

Take off Blue Dragon... looks bad.

Sacred-Snow

Out of all those games u decided to pick on the one thats already been released and the japaneese actually liked, even tho its only on the 360? bad choice for u

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#137 squirrel337
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Unreal Tournament 3 is not a timed exclusive.
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#138 oback
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UT3 is NOT A TIMED EXLUSIVE

stop it cows

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#139 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="50u1r34v3r"]

Although I will most likely get a 360 before a PS3 (if ever)

I must say that list looks great.

Why have I not noticed Folklore before?

From what I see in that picture it looks like my kind of game.

Zenkuso

folklore is terrible. get a Japanese account and download the demo. you'll be disgusted.

You better be joking dream, i already paid for import!

you did what?!! :(

go get a Japanese account pronto and download the demo. you'll not be a happy camper. gameplay (combat and camera) is very underdeveloped.

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#140 Meu2k7
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How is Unreal Tournement 3 a PS3 Timed Exclusive? Its main platform is PC, and was in creation for PS3 shortly after, and now delayed to get the 360 version to release aswell....
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#141 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SegArgyle"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="CyanX73"]Isn't it "on lockdown" and not in lockdown? Just wondering. onewiththegame

you sir, would be correct.

lol oh my god, where did u get that small video of that kid getting the roundhouse, good lord, I'd like to see that on youtube, what idiot parents

I sir, find the best sig pics on earth. 8)

True Story he does

I like the one with the old man going to grab that girls A^&* but stop cuz of the writing on his hand

I lol

it'll be back. 8)

it was all kinds of awesomeness.

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#142 Verge_6
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I find that to be a very 'meh' list, save for Ratchet and Clank. The fact the 360 is getting Bioshock. Mass effect, and Halo 3 this year alone makessaid console's line up much better in my opinion.
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#143 Verge_6
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it'll be back. 8)

it was all kinds of awesomeness.

Dreams-Visions

What movie/TV show was that from anyways? That guy seemed very familiar...

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#144 MCGSMB
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http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78000

Well, it looks like Haze is a ONE WEEK timed exclusive for the PS3. OH NO, i have to wait a whole week!!!! Nooo!!

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#145 Hater3000
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Looks a bit disapointing a lineup compared to competition's lineup. But So be it.

kittykatz5k

Not really,IMO seems to be a good lineup of games is just that a lot of good games are going to be released before any these games actually see the daylight.

To bad i don't have a PS3 I'm interested in few of those games.Seems to beat Wii line-up.

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#146 Hater3000
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http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78000

Well, it looks like Haze is a ONE WEEK timed exclusive for the PS3. OH NO, i have to wait a whole week!!!! Nooo!!

MCGSMB

A)I didn't know it was from ubisoft

B)Ouch

C)I don't need to pay 600$ now :D

D)I still want to play Eye of Judgement,Ratchet and clank,Lair,Unreal and Warhawk even if Warhawk and Lair Flop.

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#147 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="kittykatz5k"]

Looks a bit disapointing a lineup compared to competition's lineup. But So be it.

Hater3000

Not really,IMO seems to be a good lineup of games is just that a lot of good games are going to be released before any these games actually see the daylight.

To bad i don't have a PS3 I'm interested in few of those games.Seems to beat Wii line-up.

Precisely. Oh, and I don't think beating the Wii lineup is that great of an accomplishment. :P

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#148 grimhope
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My God that game list is pathetic. The only game on that whole list that intrests me even remotely is ratchet and clank. HURRY SONY where are the must have games??????? I want to, want a ps3 but for goodness sake there are no games coming out this year that even make me think about spending $600 on your overpriced blue ray player.
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#149 Nedemis
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Must really suck to know that ONE 360 title will outsell all of those combined. :lol:
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#150 osirisomeomi
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My God that game list is pathetic. The only game on that whole list that intrests me even remotely is ratchet and clank. HURRY SONY where are the must have games??????? I want to, want a ps3 but for goodness sake there are no games coming out this year that even make me think about spending $600 on your overpriced blue ray player.grimhope

I agree. I want to want a Ps3, but you're not convincing me. How will you convince people who don't want to be convinced?