Not an apples-to-oranges comparison:
Sony has PS4, PS4 Pro and PS5.
Xbox has One, One X, Series S and Series X.
Nintendo only has Switch.
The Switch alone has a 31% share, whereas Sony needs to combine multiple consoles to get a 46% share.
@Jag85: lol? PS4 and PS4 pro are the same entities. And by that logic, switch has switch and lite. you logic makes no sense lmao. It's CONSOLE market share and Sony is the market leader.
Not an apples-to-oranges comparison:
Sony has PS4, PS4 Pro and PS5.
Xbox has One, One X, Series S and Series X.
Nintendo only has Switch.
The Switch alone has a 31% share, whereas Sony needs to combine multiple consoles to get a 46% share.
Not to mention this is based on revenue, which is just a single pointless metric that includes third party game sales.
If you determine who is winning the console war based on total console sales, total profit and total first party game sales. Nintendo is declared the winner during the Switch years.
SW has always gone by console sales since the beginning as a part of our meta.
Profits, revenue, and the like are for accountants to deal with, not gamers.
I'm baffled that people are angry and resorting to personal attacks simply because I brought cold, hard facts to the forum, not conjecture.
I'm baffled that people are angry and resorting to personal attacks simply because I brought cold, hard facts to the forum, not conjecture.
Looks like it even caused another causality lol. Great thread, man.
@casey-wegner: he isn't. This is only numbers and systems talk. I'm not resorting to harassment and personal assaults since I have no need for it to win an argument. I bring only cold, hard facts to the table and would gladly concede if Nintendo had the biggest market share, which they don't have for now and might have in the future. No need to get angry, buddy, these are the facts and you have to deal with it.
@NathanDrakeSwag: I didn't expect things to turn out this way. Guess some people can't handle facts, just conjecture.
I'm baffled that people are angry and resorting to personal attacks simply because I brought cold, hard facts to the forum, not conjecture.
I never saw anybody personally attack you, but it's obvious to everyone this thread was just started because of the thread where Switch has been dominating Playstation for 3 years, and is outselling every piece of Sony hardware ever created. It just looks like you cherrypicked an old revenue article because you were upset.
That's fine I suppose to love Sony and defend them, but don't try to act "baffled" when people call you out on your behavior ;) comes across like you're trolling.
@casey-wegner: time will tell. But Sony currently has the biggest market share.
Nope. Not by any previously used metric on SW. This system wars, not revenue wars.
Switch is currently the best selling console, and on pace to be the best selling console ever, and Nintendo did it without AAA third parties, which is what the "revenue" in your cherry picked article is referring to.
@casey-wegner: @nathandrakeswag: the guy said something about previous metrics. An alt, perhaps? I don't know what these metrics are and in these 6 or so months I've been here, nobody ever said anything like that, the guy is trying to distort facts and is an alt.
Look, who care about arbitrary metrics? The facts are as exposed in the article, Sony currently is the market leader and holds the biggest market share, 46%>31%. There's no way around this, you can try and spin but this fact won't change. Stay mad at the numbers, but they don't lie. Maybe in the future Nintendo will be first place but right now, they aren't. This discussion is over and unless you're able to provide market share numbers that contradict the article, there's nothing to discuss anymore. Sony, 1, Nintendo 2, MS distant last.
Cold, hard facts. 😎
@casey-wegner: Any market share data contradicting the article? No? Well, I gladly accept your concession of defeat. 😎
85 million in 4 years. Expected to be at 100 million in just 4.5 years. Holy shit!!
https://venturebeat.com/2021/05/06/nintendo-switch-hits-84-59-million-units-sold-with-28-8-million-sold-this-past-year/
@Jag85: lol? PS4 and PS4 pro are the same entities. And by that logic, switch has switch and lite. you logic makes no sense lmao. It's CONSOLE market share and Sony is the market leader.
Your post is completely irrational. PS4 Pro is an upgrade, not the same console. Switch is the same console in a different packaging. The equivalent to the Switch Lite is the PS4 Slim (the PS4 in a different packaging), not the PS4 Pro (an upgrade).
Sony is the market leader only if you combine hardware/software/online revenue for the PS4, PS4P and PS5 combined. Even if you counted the PS4P as the same console as the PS4, you're still comparing two Sony consoles against a single Nintendo console. It's a completely nonsensical comparison that makes no logical sense whatsoever.
The near future isn't 'console market' share but 'cloud market' share. Microsoft is playing to win a monopoly on the future of gaming while Sony is currently playing the way of Blockbuster and Toys 'R Us.
@Jag85: lol dat desperation.
Switch is not only one console, they have two models, the basic OG switch and the cheaper, lite one. This alone demolishes your pathetic reasoning and attempt at damage control.
The article and data has spoken. Sony 46, Nintendo 31, MS 23. Cold, hard data, everything else is conjecture.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
Feel free to bring more articles and data to support your failure of a point, I dare you.
@wonderwinner:
Once again, your posts are completely devoid of any reason or logic whatsoever.
Your argument is demolished by basic mathematics:
This is according to your own data, which you have no clue how to interpret due to your lack of education in mathematics.
You're comparing entire companies, not individual consoles. Trying to use the combined hardware/software/online revenue of both the PS4 and PS5 in order to try claim victory over the Switch is just pure desperation.
No need for anymore data, as that was already presented to you earlier in the thread:
Switch is again on pace to sell over 25 million this year and PS5 has sold 8 million
Sony constanly celebrated PS4 has never reached over 20 million in a single year on the market
Switch did 28.8
The Nintendo Switch has sold in 79.87m units after 46 months on the market.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) February 1, 2021
Here is how it compares to other consoles when launch aligned.
In the same time frame, the PS4 was around ~67m and the PS2 was around ~69.5m. The Wii was just under 75m. pic.twitter.com/ox3NQy8Ye4
These are the hard, cold statistical facts. The Switch is the fastest-selling console of all time. Fact. Deal with it.
"Facts don't care about your feelings." I suggest you take your own advice, evident from your failure in comprehending basic facts.
@Jag85: spin how much you want, the numbers are as shown, 46>31>23.
Cold, hard facts.
I knew in advance some people would get upset, I didnt expect this level of butthurt. 😎
And according to your logic: Switch + Switch lite = 31% (average 15,5% per console)
It's even worse now. 🤣
@wonderwinner:
Yet MS could buy both Phony and Nintendont using only their pocket change. lolol It's good to be King. :P
@wonderwinner:
What kind of silly argument is that, mate?
If you want to drag the Switch Lite into it, then you'll have to also bring the PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro into it:
The average of each Switch model is still higher than the average of each PlayStation model.
@Jag85: the same you're using it. We're talking market share, not console sales. Sony 46% and there's nothing you can do about it.
Deal with it. 😎
@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅
4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.
@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅
4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.
LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅
@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅
4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.
LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅
There is nothing you can do against 4 AAA and 1 AAAA, Kvally. Bitchin' n moaning won't change facts.
@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅
4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.
LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅
There is nothing you can do against 4 AAA and 1 AAAA, Kvally. Bitchin' n moaning won't change facts.
Nothing any of us gamers need to do "against" any games Tormentos. I get to play and enjoy all the games from all the consoles. You don't need to get upset remember? It's just plastic.
@hardwenzen: As opposed to PS5, which has a single exclusive. 😅
4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.
LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅
There is nothing you can do against 4 AAA and 1 AAAA, Kvally. Bitchin' n moaning won't change facts.
Nothing any of us gamers need to do "against" any games Tormentos. I get to play and enjoy all the games from all the consoles. You don't need to get upset remember? It's just plastic.
"Nothing any of us gamers" lol you're a massive lem, not a gamer.🤣
4 AAA and 1 AAAA, all during the launch window. You pretending that this is not incredibly impressive ain't gonna get me. You know that. I know that.
LOL, oh you. Keep up the comedy Tormentos. 😅
There is nothing you can do against 4 AAA and 1 AAAA, Kvally. Bitchin' n moaning won't change facts.
Nothing any of us gamers need to do "against" any games Tormentos. I get to play and enjoy all the games from all the consoles. You don't need to get upset remember? It's just plastic.
"Nothing any of us gamers" lol you're a massive lem, not a gamer.🤣
But why are you lying? That is the question.
@x_hedon: the liar here is you Mr "manticore" that trashes Sony in every single thread on SW🤭
Yup, it upsets you that some gamers enjoy all the systems. No worries, that is your choice.
@x_hedon: the liar here is you Mr "manticore" that trashes Sony in every single thread on SW🤭
Yup, it upsets you that some gamers enjoy all the systems. No worries, that is your choice.
Nice lies. Always pretending.
@x_hedon: the liar here is you Mr "manticore" that trashes Sony in every single thread on SW🤭
Yup, it upsets you that some gamers enjoy all the systems. No worries, that is your choice.
Nice lies. Always pretending.
Please, stop lying. I love you.
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