Sony is by far the worst offender when it comes to blocking games from other platforms/consoles, yeah?

And it's not even close. Sony arguably started this whole pay-up-front-to-block-games craze (I think...correct me if I'm wrong). They've been paying third parties to block content or entire games from consoles, mainly Xbox, for forever and a day. Developing exclusive games with in-house first party devs is one thing, but paying out the nose for third party exclusivity to any extent is garbage, and that is exactly what Sony excels at. Garbage. Now, some good games have come out of it, no doubt. I'm playing Demon's Souls Remake right now, and hot damn, this game is the shizz. Puts most other games this gen to shame. But it should be on Xbox too. Back in the day, it should've been on Xbox. Paying for third party exclusivity being such a big thing these days is almost entirely, if not entirely outright, Sony's fault. Sure, other companies, they all do it. But Sony got that ball rolling. They even do it with VR, for effs sake.

Anyway, agree, disagree, whatever. Yeah, MS just bought the entire neighborhood, let alone one block , with the acquisition. But I wonder if that would've even happened if Sony hadn't been up to these same types of shenanigans for generations on end. Discuss.

Yep Sony been pulling these scams, and abusing their market leader position for a long ass time. They buy 3rd party exclusives, then more people are forced to buy their system. The more market share they get, the easier it is for them to make these exclusivity deals, and the more expensive it is for Xbox to get these same deals to counter what Sony offered to keep the games off their system. Rinse and fucking repeat the vicious cycle. Heck, not even exclusive games, but also exclusive content within games. We've seen that with hogwarts and other big games as well. Pretty twisted if you ask me.

The funny part is, the shit they argued in court that MS will do once aquiring AB, is everything they already do...Bunch of scumbags.

Though I bet they will think twice over pulling these scams once MS acquires AB.

facts. I don't care either way about the acquisition. But I do kind of want to see it happen just because Sony are the biggest hypocrites in the industry on this type of thing. Sony's case against is mind boggling. Deserve to be slapped.

No joke, especially about the hypocrite part. I mean, it's unreal how hypocritical Sony is when it comes to this stuff.

They are. If i was a CEO of MS gaming division, i would literally troll them by saying that we don't need to rely on third party exclusive deals to have a yearly library that consists of more than one exclusive remake from 10 years ago. Of course, that is assuming we had actual games, and MS doesn't🤷‍♂️

Demon's Souls on Xbox? Really? A Sony IP?

@loudheadphones: From made it. Not Sony. Sony owns it because of $$$. If it was first party, and not just supported by Sony Japan, okay. But otherwise, that should be a multi plat game right there.

Lol exclusive deals always existed even before Sony. MS is doing the same like Sony, the only difference is Sony gamers are still buying games and MS made a bad decision to include day one on Gamepass which is killing sales and will kill franchises on Xbox. Which is why 3rd parties are more willing to make an exclusive deal with Sony. MS could do all the exclusive deals that Sony did if they were willing to risk it like they did with original Xbox and X360. MS will ruin gaming their main focus is subscription services. Physical sales will disappear, all games will be behind a paywall and eventually all games will be exclusive to Gamepass and a lot of smaller studios will close because MS Sony etc will force them to pay if they want their game on Gamepass or any streaming service. So i hope you idiots will keep buying physical games and not let the big corporations take complete control

Yep, can’t argue against that.

I dunno. Nintendo seems to be the right answer cos they even block their own games on their own hardware.

@pclover1980: Lol, fair point.

Imagine if all games were just on all systems.

There would be no system wars, it's anti-climactic.

The only thing that makes MS acquisition better than a Sony acquisition is that all of their games are multiplatform.

@loudheadphones: It was developed by FromSoftware

Maybe there is a chance of this happening with MS having more leverage with AKB. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I don't see it happening, I think what's more likely is Nintendo rocks the entire games industry again with some cheap gimmicky piece of crap we all make fun of but buy anyway. While Microsoft and their vision of the all-games-verse comes in last.

It may require a law, but I doubt that will happen due to the heavy lobbying by the industry against it.

Well, yeah. They've been doing it a lot, forever.

Xbox: Fable, Hellblade 2, Avowed, Forza Motorsport, Perfect Dark, Indiana Jones, Contraband, State of Decay 3, MSFS 2024, Starfield, South of Midnight, Everwild, Clockwork Revolution.

Sony: Spiderman 2, Wolverine, then crickets.

Which has no games again?

I grew up in a time where exclusives mattered and determined what console you went with. What is wrong with having exclusives it's always been part of the console experience.

NathanDrake is very happy about the deal

Future outlook for BS Jive games after the MS/ABK deal is done since they can no longer money hat to these pubs...

TBH tho, the mooaar things change, the mooaar they stay the same. lol :P

Preventing gamers from playing games on their consoles of choice is what made Sony the market leaders, so I find it bizarre when Cows cry about a rival doing what Sony have done since the ps2 days.

Let’s not forget that Sony was aiming to make Starfield a ps5 exclusive before MS reacted.

BTW, did that teary eyed Cow who bet 100 bucks pay up yet? Wasn’t there also a few alt accounts at stake too?

Tough times in the Cow field these days.

MS prevents their own fans from playing anything because they don't release anything🤡

@hardwenzen: Strange. It’s the middle of July, and Sony hasn’t released a single game for ps5. There’s nothing before October, and yet you see fit to call Xbox out for not releasing games when there’s been Hi-Fi rush, Pentiment, Redfall, High on life out already with Starfield and FM still to come in 2023.

Cows are taking a hell of a beating these days.

He mentioned Redfall🤡🤡🤡

Your system is out of order since 2018. Every single year, there are less and less games. You're lucky Bethesda has been working on Starfield for 15 years, and its finally time for it to come out, but that a Bethesda game, not MS's, AND a pc exclusive because the X can't handle it.

Sony FUNDED it. It is their IP Also, Sony APROACHED them at first almost 20 years ago. Without Sony there wouldn't be a Demon's Souls. Learn something new before spewing nonsense. Easy to google the history of making of Demon's Souls

Sony Enters the Story - A Collaboration

It is in this stage of our story that Sony enters the scene. From 2004 to 2006, the Elder Scrolls series are very popular. And Sony wants to create something similar.

Sony wants a new game to match the Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and aims to collaborate with FromSoftware in creating this new title.

Miyazaki: Yes, at the time, the Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion was truly a big deal, and I believe SCE wanted a game similar to that.

Sony approached FromSoftware due to its history in making the King’s Field games. They envisioned creating the newest version of King’s Field as a contender against Elder Scrolls.

Sakurai: I’ve always loved FromSoftware’s games such as “Kingsfield” and “Armored Core.” When I happened to talk with them about “Kingsfield,” I talked about something like, “Wouldn’t you make the latest Kingsfield?” So, it was decided that “Would you like to make it together?”

https://dondonrv.com/c/115/the-making-of-demon-s-souls

Add Ravenlok to the list of 2023 Xbox games. It is a pretty good game.

Wtf are you talking about, Starfield being a PC exclusive?? Did it get cancelled on Xbox or something? And don’t give us that 30 fps excuse.

I feel TC is right. I have seen the text "Only on Playstation" a billion times since PS1. Sony lives and dies by exclusives.

@loudheadphones: Yeah, From made it, dude. Should be on other systems. Sony helped with cash, but From would've made it regardless, eventually. It's Miyazaki's vision.

Clarification. What I'm saying is that regardless of who funds it, if it's third party it belongs on other systems, all systems it can get on. It's not like Sony would lose money, they'd only make money. First party is good for exclusives to make system unique or whatever, fine. But third party belongs on all systems.

30fps is the MAXIMUM you can expect. Your average will be around 26fps, which is unplayable, which makes Starfield a PC exclusive until the next gen console comes out from MS.

No sane person will play Starfield on the X, and imagine how it'll perform on the S.🤢

You're more delusional that i could've even imagined. This is what five years of no games does to a person.

Yup, I mentioned Redfall….and 5 other games.
What did you “mention“ on Sony’s side for 2023? Another Spidey remake which you’re not buying and then Sweet FA.

The final part of your squeeling was verbal diarrhoea….

That just sounds salty.

Starfield is on Xbox whether you like it or not. More and more 1st party console games will go back to 30fps as consoles begin to push graphics, and they will, because this gen has been fairly unimpressive in general so far.

Spider-Man 2 looks like it's a few settings changes away from working on the PS4.

This gen has just been offensive imo. These 8.5 gen console.

@loudheadphones: So what? It's still a FromSoftware game.

I would like to play one of any of the games on your list please, can you tell me where I can purchase/download them?

Lol….Wenzen is about as salty as a salt covered salt stick floating in a salt bath. He’s feeling the pain because he can’t find anything worth playing on ps5 and ended up getting a PC to play Xbox games on.
Only the unique mind of Wenzen would reason that buying a PC to play Starfield is a win for Sony.

Only those that are desperate will ever mention redfall, a game with 51 players online😆Sony releases high hitting titles, not unfinished garbage such as Redfall.

It's relative and sure everyone does it (that's not an excuse though). As a market leader though the advantage is these deals can be made cheaply and with more exclusionary terms, and that's where abuse of such strategies becomes monopolistic.

Starfield on the X is like a late gen third party game on any console. The system cannot handle it anymore, so we consider these games as PC exclusives because its the only system that allows you to play at good performance.

You will need to wait another 5-6 years to play Starfield on your next gen Xbox, only then will it handle the game.

@hardwenzen: Not really. Redfall is probably the worst game ms have released this or last gen….and it’s still better than what Sony has released in 2023 for ps5.

“Desperate” would be continually ignoring the other games I mentioned, as well as you not buying a Sony game for your console in the whole of 2023.

Better than Sony's EXCLUSIVE FF16?🤡🤡🤡

And Redfall is not the worst game MS has released in the last few years, no. Its the actual MS standard since Halo 5 came out.

Who is "we", that's your nonsense. So the first four Playstations don't have any exclusives because they don't run at 60fps? :-S

Good luck with that. Are they also "PC exclusive" because PCs run them better on emulators? XD

@HalcyonScarlet: Starfield doesn't even run at 30fps stable, so why are we talking about Sony's standard 60fps?

Sorry to break it to you, but i've had a pc since BF3 came out😆Its just since mid 2021 when i sold my gpu that i couldn't use it because buying a gpu wasn't possible. Failed trolling yet again, sealionact.

@hardwenzen: Didn’t mention any dates there bud, just that you have a pc and that you’ll spend more money on Xbox games in 2023 than Sony games.

Hurts to hear, but it’s the truth.

I will play your one game for $1-10🤡🤡🤡This is literally humilliation to the highest of levels.

Can you play SONY EXCLUSIVES? No rofl.