[QUOTE="zath5"][QUOTE="HuhJustaBox"][QUOTE="Sushbag88"]Sorry, I quit reading after the third paragraph. Are you sad the Sony won E3? They can't compete this holiday? Are you nuts? They have 15 first party exclusives, not to mention their third party exclusives. I watched MS confrence hoping to see a reason to buy one. Nope, just about every great game they had coming is multiplat. COD4, GTA, Assassins Creed, etc. The only exclusive I saw that MS had that will be great is Mass Effect. I would say Halo too, but UT2k7 and Haze are coming out, and both look on par with Halo. Then Killzone amazed everyone that Sony was actually TELLING THE TRUTH about the demo shown in 2005. It blew everything out of the water and is in freaking pre-alpha stages.Given that the PS3 is the Dreamcast of this console generation, Sony should take a leaf out of Sega's book: Pack their bags, discontinue the console, cease all game development, and start cutting their losses and working on a new platform for next time. Maybe then they can beat Microsoft to market in 2010 or something.
I mean for a while it was funny. It was the joke of the gaming community: The fact that Sony was just shooting itself in the face repeatedly, at every damn turn. But now, it's been obvious for a while that in terms of the current console war Microsoft has already won. But even though they have, couldn't Sony have still at least tried? But no, they continue their reign of mediocrity and suicidal industry moves. And so it's not even funny, it's almost old hat.
Consider E3 2007. As many of you pointed out, and with no small amount of truth I'll admit, Sony had to wow the industry and the gamers at this year's E3. They HAD to. We pretty much knew that the rest of the year is a given for the 360, and that Sony already had a slim chance at competing this holiday. But now, not only do we know for sure that Sony has absolutely no chance (0%) at competing with anyone (especially, I don't know, Microsoft) this holiday season, they haven't even set themselves up properly for 2008 like they should have at E3. Are you kidding me, Sony? Are you trying to lose? I mean clearly the only real game the PS3 has ever had surely would allow Sony to compete at Christmas. Oh wait, it's been delayed. I actually didn't see that coming, and I'm usually good with this sort of thing. Now instead of one game (MGS4 that is) the PS3 has exactly no games. One may argue, "But wait, that's just 2007." Gotcha covered. You realize that 2008 is now Sony's last stand? With a mixed lineup of a bunch of non-exclusives and perhaps 3 or so actual exclusives, the PS3 is rallying in 2008 like it's the Alamo. MGS4, Killzone, Haze, and then the non-exclusives which will definitely not sway anyone. It's not even like the PS3 has RE5 or SH5, because if those had been exclusive I'd have to buy one wouldn't I. But even those are gone! Is Sony really banking on those 2 or 3 exclusives to carry them for 2008? When people are sitting at home comfortably playing Halo 3, GTA4, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty 4, Bioshock, Mass Effect, and whatever else the 360 has, does anyone here honestly believe that a one of them will consider heading out to spend $600 on anything but more 360 games or perhaps computer hardware to play Crysis/UT3/TF2? It's humorous to even consider such a possibility. And Sony needed this E3. E3 2007 was huge for them. And guess what we got? A delay of MGS4 and, even better, news that Konami might take MGS4 to the 360, and even better, news that the much-touted $100 price cut wasn't much of a price cut at all. What? The one thing that might have sold them a few extra PS3's and Sony is actually publicly admitting that the whole price cut was just to get rid of inventory on a console that, like the original $500 variant, they are phasing out? What kind of backhanded move is that? This is a joke. They're done.
Maybe some of you are confused still, perhaps some of the younger members on these boards (I've seen quite a few) are still defending their VCR-looking console to the death. And to you I will give this one thing: I'll still probably buy a PS3 before the war is out. Why not, they still have SOME exclusives. But that's all I'll give you. I'll give you that I might still buy one just because my love of games exceeds my love of predicting industry trends and watching as they are fulfilled before my eyes. But make no mistake: This is the Dreamcast of this generation. Which is why I suggested that Sony, in order to make the logical move, should back out of the console race. They can still keep the PSP and PS2 in production I'd say, but the PS3 has failed to such an extent that it's bleak future, which is just another guarantee that Sony needs to go pick a quiet spot to die, is something that Sony is actually trying to confront as if things will magically turn around in 2008 or any subsequent year. Sony is actually throwing more money into it, in an attempt to play somegame of charades with the public. "We're doing fine because we say we are." I lold', etc.
This isn't just a Sony issue, Nintendo fans. Don't make the mistake of thinking the Wii is an attractive substitute for a PS3. I'd rather buy one of the black paper weights from Sony than fork over cash for something called a Wii. The 360 is rocking in game selection, and, contrary to not-so-popular-but-still-prevalent belief, it ALWAYS has! The 360 launch was awesome, they had some of their best games to date on that freaking launch. And it's only gotten better from there. I knew that the 360 was something to buy right from launch (even though I waited a few months anyway) and I certainly never thought of Microsoft as needing to do anything to make itself more presentable to me as a consumer. They did virtually everything right, a few hardware issues aside. Their console has the best games, but come on: It even looks cool. The controller is fantastic, the interface is well integrated with the guide button, the downloadable content is icing on the cake, I mean come on. The 360 is doing amazing in games at this point in it's life, and holiday 2007 is like sex in video game form, in terms of the lineup that is. It's not like it's the more attractive buying option for gamers now, it will be for the foreseeable future. The PS3 and Wii? Their games are non-existent and laughable, respectively.
I may be digressing, so here's a brief conclusion: Sony is done. And, while we're on the subject of defunct gaming companies, Nintendo isn't even trying to do anything in terms of games at this point. Financially they may be selling consoles, but their lineup is jokingly barren and their installed base isn't up to that of the 360's yet. But back to Sony: The reality of the Dreamcast-like nature of the PS3 is growing daily. I wouldn't be surprised if, in three years or so, people are looking back and saying, of the PS3: "Oh that? Yea it was kind of a failed experiment by Sony. Had impressive hardware at first, but not enough games ended up coming out for it and, well, the 360 just destroyed it. I kinda liked it, but eventually even I came to realize that it was a waste of money compared to it's competition. A pity, really, considering the PS2 was so great. Oh well."
HuhJustaBox
Yeah I guess Sony should pull the plug because how on earth can they compete with releasing games like Lair, Heavenly Sword, LBP, Uncharted, Socom, Warhawk, GT5, Ratchet and Clank, and the new online service Home?
You may not want to face the music and that is fine, but the PS3 is a fantastic piece of equipment. They always have an amazing lineup of games--as their first party blows MS out of the water. What does MS have--Halo, and that is about it. What other first party games are there? I am sure there are few more, let me know. However, I doubt they can hold a candle to the Crash series, Jak series, Ratchet Series, God of war Series, Socom series, Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Twisted Metal Series, Uncharted, Lair, GT series, LBP, and the list of quality games goes on into the night.
I think MS has also made a good system, but to think Sony should bow out is outrageous! Most games that are exclusive to PS3 are looking better than 360 games and will continue to do so as Sony has a far superior first party, and the PS3 has more power to be tapped. Hang your head in shame and leave these boards as the sad fanboy that you are. Go enjoy the 360 like I will go enjoy my PS3 and quit the sensless and mindless bashing.
1. You claim that halo is ALL we have when halo 2 sold five times as many copies as the ps3 has sold systems.2. You placed motorstorm and MANY games that have never been played before in you "amazing games" section.....motorstorm blows: it is like a half ass ATV 4 with everything subpar.3. Although you did not have a Killzone reference im sure you meant to and lemme remind everyone who has check the ratings of that game.....IT GOT AN EFFING 6.9. WHOOPDEE! just because the graphics are pretty in Killzone 2 doesnt mean they can fix the horrible lag and frame rate issue i saw in the ps3 press conference4. PS3 home.....what a waste of time. i cant truly see how far that can go. It seems like a 3d virtual xbox live preface. Or maybe the sims without any jobs, relationships, or fun.5. Blueray is useless and so is the "cell"6. PS3 may have super duper exclusives like the ones you mentioned but who really wants to play gt5 when i can play forza 2 which came out earlier and will ultimately be better IMO. I can play COD4 as a replacement for socom. and i can play with my dogs crap in replacement for heavenly sword and and home combined.7. God of War 1 and 2 and presumely 3 rock. i loved those games and would buy them in a second for 360 if they had em.8. Xbox 360 exclusives......halo, mass effect, bioshock, conviction, GoW2...nuf said
My amazing game section is full of first party games. Your credibility went out the window with Motorstorm. You clearly have never played the game and you are just going by the pathetic rating of this site. Nothing gameplay wise is subpar at all. The graphics are mind blowing (one of the best graphical games on the PS3 to date) and the gameplay is solid as a rock. The only reason why it scored low on this site was that it lacked split screen and did not have as many tracks as they would have liked. I agree that these are legitimate faults, but the game still rocks to play. One of the best racers out there, bar none. Since you clearly have not played it, go give it a try.
Yeah and the old review on Killzone on PS2--nice damage control. That is all you fanboys can say. All you guys have been saying for two years is that Sony LIED and that it cannot look that good. Well, swallow your pride, because they delivered on all of it. And you must be the only person that noticed bad frame rates--as I have the video on my PS3 and have watched it many times on my 60 inch 1080p set. It looks like a freaking movie, and I have yet to see any frame rate.
Oh, and how did you see any lag? Lag happens when you play games with friends over the internet. So how did you see lag during a single player campaign demonstration. Just more proof that you don't have a clue on what is really going on.
All of the games I listed are exclusive and have either proven to be quality titles or have yet to come out but have been given a high amount of praise in the previews given thus far. Just because you like Forza more than GT does not mean that GT is not great. And while you are playing COD4 when I am playing Socom--I will also being playing COD4 too-being that it is multiplat.
How is bluray useless? Bond and MI:III looks amazing on my HDTV. Have you heard that MGS4 may be taking up 50gigs? Have you heard the criticisms of Rockstar on how DVD on 360 is limiting what they can do with GTA4? Guess not. Then again I am sure you have, but as you have proven to do time and time again, you have inserted your fingers in your ears and screamed la, la, la.
The cell is useless? Dude, you could not be more clueless with that statement! Killzone would not be possible without the muti core Cell. How do you think the poly count can be insanely high, while the animations are smooth and seamless, while the lighting is the most incredible in any game to date, etc. The Cell is the most important piece of tech in the PS3 and what will show its power over the course of the systems life.
How on Earth can you say Heavenly Sword is crap? The game looks like it may even be better than God of War. You are getting more and more pathetic with your arguments. And how can you hate Home. Every site is giving it praise, while the only people that think it sucks is the ones that don't have a PS3. Perhaps you are jealous.
And your list of exclusives...well Bioshock is not as it is on PC, and don't be surprised to see it on PS3 in Spring of 08. So you have Halo (which is a great game) but again we will have Haze and UT3 and Killzone later in 2008. So we have some great FPS coming our way as well. And yes you have Gears--which will go to PC as well. Leaving you with Mass Effect. I just don't see how you can compare these three exclusives to the entire swath of PS3 exclusives. Also note, that Gears is not first party. So watch out when gears 3 comes out--it may be on PS3 too. Again, you have good games, too--its just a much smaller list than what the PS3 offers.
Please just leave these boards. Your blind fanboyism just pegged the meter and the needle broke off. Why can you not enjoy your 360 without bashing the PS3? I can enjoy the PS3 and not bash the 360. I am not insecure with my purchase. I love Sony's first party games--they always deliver the goods and have a plethora of studios to make these great games. If you want a 360 and like their game line-up better, then more power to you. Just don't think that your system is the end all be all. And if you think that Sony is going to back down and pull out--then wow just wow. You clearly could not be more out of touch with reality.
You do realize that Halo is a great game, but just because MS has Halo does not mean that all of the other companies are going to pull their plugs? It is one game! Sony has many great games, and imo will once again be the better system. I think this way becasue they cater to my taste. If the 360 caters to yours then buy that and be happy and quit trying to invalidate people's purchases when they don't coincide with yours.
Dude, you are just as much, if not mor so, a fanboy as he is. The PS3 sucks, it is finally starting to come out with some games don't get me wrong, I am happy about that, because no I don't have a $600 dust collector. To me the 360 is still more impressive. I own all of them, and the PS3 is by far the least used.
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