Sony Mentions Charging For PSN

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

XBL offers more than just gaming services.....can u grab a group of buddies and watch a movie 2gether over PSN? Just an example of many

chikenfriedrice

I'm aware of the services and features that XBL offers and they are not worth it, especially compared to a free service like PSN. PSN has been getting just about every feature that XBL has, so it will only be a matter of time until it has that too, for free.

If you like paying $50 for it, than go all out on it. But when I pay $60 for a game and then have to pay an additional $50 just to play the MP portion of that games (as well as others) I'm going to be a little mad.

the 50 dollars covers all games not just one ;)...and when if ever PSN catches up Sony will be charging trust that

Yes, games that you BOUGHT. I'd much rather use that money to buy another game and play that online for FREE. I don't doubt there being charges later on but for now, I'm enjoying FREE!

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I think it's pretty sad. Microsoft has shown the industry how big of tools some gamers are and how easy it is to get money out of them.

Odrec

I think they have shown what a great value and service it is

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

ok call ur buddy that lives in another state or country right over to watch that flick lol

chikenfriedrice

Ok, will do, thanks for the suggestion.

I don't even know what's so great about that feature, seriously,you can just watch it seperately and just discuss it later. NOT A BIG DEAL or something that would make anyone go out and purchase a console for.

like I said one feature of MANY! That are not about gaming...so many great features

I'm sure there are but please tell me any other significant features I'm missing here.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

lol....it's not milking if it's a valuable service that's worth paying for

chikenfriedrice

Do we need to go through the features between XBL and PSN? In the beginning, yes, PSN was pretty bad compared to XBL. Now, you have small difference between the 2. The major difference between them is cross voice chat vs no cross game chat. Is that worth $50 to you?

XBL offers more than just gaming services.....can u grab a group of buddies and watch a movie 2gether over PSN? Just an example of many

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I'm aware of the services and features that XBL offers and they are not worth it, especially compared to a free service like PSN. PSN has been getting just about every feature that XBL has, so it will only be a matter of time until it has that too, for free.

If you like paying $50 for it, than go all out on it. But when I pay $60 for a game and then have to pay an additional $50 just to play the MP portion of that games (as well as others) I'm going to be a little mad.

wootasifwoot

the 50 dollars covers all games not just one ;)...and when if ever PSN catches up Sony will be charging trust that

Yes, games that you BOUGHT. I'd much rather use that money to buy another game and play that online for FREE. I don't doubt there being charges later on but for now, I'm enjoying FREE!

or RENTED!....I have the PS3 and I play online for free too so ur not really pwning me there

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

the 50 dollars covers all games not just one ;)...and when if ever PSN catches up Sony will be charging trust that

chikenfriedrice

Yes, games that you BOUGHT. I'd much rather use that money to buy another game and play that online for FREE. I don't doubt there being charges later on but for now, I'm enjoying FREE!

or RENTED!....I have the PS3 and I play online for free too so ur not really pwning me there

Ok but you still continue to pay $50 yearly where as me... none. Ah yes, good to be free (for now).

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

But little do you know the "cows" saved $150 over the course of 3 years as opposed to "lemmings".

wootasifwoot

true...$150 that was used to buy Bluray movies :P

Why's that a bad thing? You JUST mentioned one of the capabilities of live being able to watch MOVIES together, hypocrite much?

Because most PS3 owners only buy a PS3 just for watching Blu-Ray movies than for playing games. Why do you think that most 1st/2nd/3rd party games on the PS3 doesn't sell extremely well compared to 360? And don't give me that "because the 360 has the higher install base" excuse, because there are more PS3 owners than ever before (27 million).

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

the 50 dollars covers all games not just one ;)...and when if ever PSN catches up Sony will be charging trust that

chikenfriedrice

Yes, games that you BOUGHT. I'd much rather use that money to buy another game and play that online for FREE. I don't doubt there being charges later on but for now, I'm enjoying FREE!

or RENTED!....I have the PS3 and I play online for free too so ur not really pwning me there

You should stick with M$ then since your always against the PS3 :)

[QUOTE="Odrec"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I think they have shown what a great value and service it is

delta3074

I have bought like 30+ games from Sony the last couple of years, I support them enough. If more people don't want to buy games then it sucks but I'm not here to "save" them by allowing them to milk me. Who "saves" me then? Certainly not Sony.

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

Yes, games that you BOUGHT. I'd much rather use that money to buy another game and play that online for FREE. I don't doubt there being charges later on but for now, I'm enjoying FREE!

wootasifwoot

or RENTED!....I have the PS3 and I play online for free too so ur not really pwning me there

Ok but you still continue to pay $50 yearly where as me... none. Ah yes, good to be free (for now).

I honestly feel I am getting what I pay for....I do not like to get ripped off and I don't feel I am or I would cancel and play for free on PSN....but for me multiplats are usually better and the online experience has been better for me

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I hope they do just to laugh at all the cows

wootasifwoot

But little do you know the "cows" saved $150 over the course of 3 years as opposed to "lemmings".

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

XBL offers more than just gaming services.....can u grab a group of buddies and watch a movie 2gether over PSN? Just an example of many

chikenfriedrice

I'm aware of the services and features that XBL offers and they are not worth it, especially compared to a free service like PSN. PSN has been getting just about every feature that XBL has, so it will only be a matter of time until it has that too, for free.

If you like paying $50 for it, than go all out on it. But when I pay $60 for a game and then have to pay an additional $50 just to play the MP portion of that game (as well as others) I'm going to be a little mad.

the 50 dollars covers all games not just one ;)...and when if ever PSN catches up Sony will be charging trust that

I know it covers all games, hence the "as well as others". Here's a question for you, If Microsoft gave free online, but still charged $50 for cross game chat, watching movies with XBL friends, and the other minor features, would you still pay for it?

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

true...$150 that was used to buy Bluray movies :P

garland51

Why's that a bad thing? You JUST mentioned one of the capabilities of live being able to watch MOVIES together, hypocrite much?

Because most PS3 owners only buy a PS3 just for watching Blu-Ray movies than for playing games. Why do you think that most 1st/2nd/3rd party games on the PS3 doesn't sell extremely well compared to 360? And don't give me that "because the 360 has the higher install base" excuse, because there are more PS3 owners than ever before (27 million).

uh, last I checked they were selling. MGS sold more than gears as far as I know, Uncharted 1 sold millions of copies, U2 to do the same if not more (it's getting a lot more coverage), even games like demons souls selling quite a few (got the last copy of DS at best buy, AFTER it restocked). So yea, ps3 games are selling, not as much as 360s in NA!!! but still selling well world-wide.

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

or RENTED!....I have the PS3 and I play online for free too so ur not really pwning me there

chikenfriedrice

Ok but you still continue to pay $50 yearly where as me... none. Ah yes, good to be free (for now).

I honestly feel I am getting what I pay for....I do not like to get ripped off and I don't feel I am or I would cancel and play for free on PSN....but for me multiplats are usually better and the online experience has been better for me

I hope they do charge. I have no problem paying as long as they can improve it in terms of making it easier/faster to navigate, easier to find stuff, faster downloads, more content, and easier to connect online............and more features wouldnt hurt :Pnavyguy21

Ah I see what you did there. Maybe its your connection because my download speed and upload speed is really fast. As for content... could you provide game content that PSN store doesnt have (just curious)? Easier to connect online...would you kindly elaborate? and as for features.....updates...for free :P

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

Yes, games that you BOUGHT. I'd much rather use that money to buy another game and play that online for FREE. I don't doubt there being charges later on but for now, I'm enjoying FREE!

SwagSurf

or RENTED!....I have the PS3 and I play online for free too so ur not really pwning me there

You should stick with M$ then since your always against the PS3 :)

naw I enjoy my PS3...I am enjoying the GoW Collection right now

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

or RENTED!....I have the PS3 and I play online for free too so ur not really pwning me there

chikenfriedrice

Ok but you still continue to pay $50 yearly where as me... none. Ah yes, good to be free (for now).

I honestly feel I am getting what I pay for....I do not like to get ripped off and I don't feel I am or I would cancel and play for free on PSN....but for me multiplats are usually better and the online experience has been better for me

To be fair it just depends on who are the friends that are playing on what console. For me, most of my friends and cousins have a ps3, which is why I chose to get that instead of 360 (just one of my many other reasons) but yea, I think that plays a HUGE factor in console purchases and what not.

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

Ok but you still continue to pay $50 yearly where as me... none. Ah yes, good to be free (for now).

killzowned24

I honestly feel I am getting what I pay for....I do not like to get ripped off and I don't feel I am or I would cancel and play for free on PSN....but for me multiplats are usually better and the online experience has been better for me

actually that never happens it's automatically taken out of my account so I don't miss a beat

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I hope they do just to laugh at all the cows

kolkov01

But little do you know the "cows" saved $150 over the course of 3 years as opposed to "lemmings".

At least the original PS3s are better than the new slims. I mean Bang for your buck now :p

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I honestly feel I am getting what I pay for....I do not like to get ripped off and I don't feel I am or I would cancel and play for free on PSN....but for me multiplats are usually better and the online experience has been better for me

chikenfriedrice

actually that never happens it's automatically taken out of my account so I don't miss a beat

thats because your using a credit card. What about the XBL users using a 1month, 3 month, or a 12 month card?

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

Ok but you still continue to pay $50 yearly where as me... none. Ah yes, good to be free (for now).

wootasifwoot

I honestly feel I am getting what I pay for....I do not like to get ripped off and I don't feel I am or I would cancel and play for free on PSN....but for me multiplats are usually better and the online experience has been better for me

To be fair it just depends on who are the friends that are playing on what console. For me, most of my friends and cousins have a ps3, which is why I chose to get that instead of 360 (just one of my many other reasons) but yea, I think that plays a HUGE factor in console purchases and what not.

and I have a 360 family and friends lol

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I honestly feel I am getting what I pay for....I do not like to get ripped off and I don't feel I am or I would cancel and play for free on PSN....but for me multiplats are usually better and the online experience has been better for me

chikenfriedrice

actually that never happens it's automatically taken out of my account so I don't miss a beat

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Odrec"] No, they pretty much showed how you can milk your consumer dry and get away with it. Of course others will follow suit. Thank you Microsoft, you really have shown the console video game industry how to be better... for yourselves.Odrec

I have bought like 30+ games from Sony the last couple of years, I support them enough. If more people don't want to buy games then it sucks but I'm not here to "save" them by allowing them to milk me. Who "saves" me then? Certainly not Sony.

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] I sure every lem feels cheated at least once a year...when you go to turn on the box only to see you have been reverted to silver...LMAO!!SwagSurf

actually that never happens it's automatically taken out of my account so I don't miss a beat

thats because your using a credit card. What about the XBL users using a 1month, 3 month, or a 12 month card?

idk they need to get their s**t 2gether

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

But little do you know the "cows" saved $150 over the course of 3 years as opposed to "lemmings".

SwagSurf

At least the original PS3s are better than the new slims. I mean Bang for your buck now :p

Not to mention were a lot more reliable than 360s during their launch phase. It was reported in the newspaper that I read that over 33% of the 360s caught on fire during the first month of the luanch phase. So... money well spent righ there I guess.

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] I sure every lem feels cheated at least once a year...when you go to turn on the box only to see you have been reverted to silver...LMAO!!killzowned24

actually that never happens it's automatically taken out of my account so I don't miss a beat

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] I sure every lem feels cheated at least once a year...when you go to turn on the box only to see you have been reverted to silver...LMAO!!killzowned24

actually that never happens it's automatically taken out of my account so I don't miss a beat

I am not a moron and I have an eye over my account and have never once had a problem with a MS transaction...they have enough money they do not need to still from lil ol me

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] I sure every lem feels cheated at least once a year...when you go to turn on the box only to see you have been reverted to silver...LMAO!!killzowned24

actually that never happens it's automatically taken out of my account so I don't miss a beat

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

But little do you know the "cows" saved $150 over the course of 3 years as opposed to "lemmings".

SwagSurf

At least the original PS3s are better than the new slims. I mean Bang for your buck now :p

I hope they do charge. I have no problem paying as long as they can improve it in terms of making it easier/faster to navigate, easier to find stuff, faster downloads, more content, and easier to connect online............and more features wouldnt hurt :Pnavyguy21

How is PSN hard to navigate? It's one of the easiest things I have ever used.

Everything is easy to find as well. You want to buy something, you go to the PS Store, which is also easy to navigate

Connecting online is easy as well. All there is to be done it press "Sign In". Then I can get on desired game, invite friends, start playing. Easy

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

actually that never happens it's automatically taken out of my account so I don't miss a beat

chikenfriedrice

I am not a moron and I have an eye over my account and have never once had a problem with a MS transaction...they have enough money they do not need to still from lil ol me

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]I hope they do charge. I have no problem paying as long as they can improve it in terms of making it easier/faster to navigate, easier to find stuff, faster downloads, more content, and easier to connect online............and more features wouldnt hurt :PBPoole96

How is PSN hard to navigate? It's one of the easiest things I have ever used.

Everything is easy to find as well. You want to buy something, you go to the PS Store, which is also easy to navigate

Connecting online is easy as well. All there is to be done it press "Sign In". Then I can get on desired game, invite friends, start playing. Easy

Seriously... it's so easy that even a cave man can do it!

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

actually that never happens it's automatically taken out of my account so I don't miss a beat

chikenfriedrice

thats because your using a credit card. What about the XBL users using a 1month, 3 month, or a 12 month card?

idk they need to get their s**t 2gether

Well not really. Some people feel that using a credit for online is not safe. And honestly I don't blame them.

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Well not really. Some people feel that using a credit for online is not safe. And honestly I don't blame them.

SwagSurf

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] insane to give ms credit control imo.have heard plenty of problems+ that guarantees full price loldelta3074

I am not a moron and I have an eye over my account and have never once had a problem with a MS transaction...they have enough money they do not need to steal from lil ol me

yup my wife works for a fraud dept of a bank lol...we know what goes down

[QUOTE="Odrec"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i would hardly call 50 pounds a year milking your customer dry, i know MS have done some dodgy things in the past, but they are not the all out evil company that guys like you make them out to be, MS donates a lot of money to charity, so does SONY, and the smart thing for SONY to do is charge for online, tell me , does it feel good to play online for free whilst SONY slowly bleeds all it's money out? if cows support SONY so much why would they not pay to play online, your measly 50 pounds a year subscription fee would do SONY the world of good.delta3074

I have bought like 30+ games from Sony the last couple of years, I support them enough. If more people don't want to buy games then it sucks but I'm not here to "save" them by allowing them to milk me. Who "saves" me then? Certainly not Sony.

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

thats because your using a credit card. What about the XBL users using a 1month, 3 month, or a 12 month card?

SwagSurf

idk they need to get their s**t 2gether

Well not really. Some people feel that using a credit for online is not safe. And honestly I don't blame them.

I was kiddin but it's very safe to use a debit card

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Odrec"]I have bought like 30+ games from Sony the last couple of years, I support them enough. If more people don't want to buy games then it sucks but I'm not here to "save" them by allowing them to milk me. Who "saves" me then? Certainly not Sony.Odrec

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I hope they do just to laugh at all the cows

BPoole96

Why would that be funny?

because they seem to think having free online is a bonus against 360 and and now they wont be able to use that excuse ;)

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]I hope they do charge. I have no problem paying as long as they can improve it in terms of making it easier/faster to navigate, easier to find stuff, faster downloads, more content, and easier to connect online............and more features wouldnt hurt :Pwootasifwoot

How is PSN hard to navigate? It's one of the easiest things I have ever used.

Everything is easy to find as well. You want to buy something, you go to the PS Store, which is also easy to navigate

Connecting online is easy as well. All there is to be done it press "Sign In". Then I can get on desired game, invite friends, start playing. Easy

Seriously... it's so easy that even a cave man can do it!

For another example, my sister can use it. She would make a caveman look like Einstein.

[QUOTE="wootasifwoot"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

How is PSN hard to navigate? It's one of the easiest things I have ever used.

Everything is easy to find as well. You want to buy something, you go to the PS Store, which is also easy to navigate

Connecting online is easy as well. All there is to be done it press "Sign In". Then I can get on desired game, invite friends, start playing. Easy

BPoole96

Seriously... it's so easy that even a cave man can do it!

For another example, my sister can use it. She would make a caveman look like Einstein.

Lmao, that's mean! but funny.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I hope they do just to laugh at all the cows

scarface_dm

Why would that be funny?

because they seem to think having free online is a bonus against 360 and and now they wont be able to use that excuse ;)

It is a bonus over the 360. Let's say the next gen consoles come out in 2012, this gen you will have paid $350 just to play online and use a few features. Instead of me paying that, I will have been able to buy nearly 6 new games.

If Sony does charge, they will probably keep online MP free, sine they know that is a major selling point for them. They will probably come up with a bunch of features/extras and charge for that while keeping online free. That is fine since the fee is not forced upon gamers the way XBL is

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

No, they pretty much showed how you can milk your consumer dry and get away with it. Of course others will follow suit. Thank you Microsoft, you really have shown the console video game industry how to be better... for yourselves.Odrec

lol....it's not milking if it's a valuable service that's worth paying for

Do we need to go through the features between XBL and PSN? In the beginning, yes, PSN was pretty bad compared to XBL. Now, you have small difference between the 2. The major difference between them is cross voice chat vs no cross game chat. Is that worth $50 to you?

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]I hope they do charge. I have no problem paying as long as they can improve it in terms of making it easier/faster to navigate, easier to find stuff, faster downloads, more content, and easier to connect online............and more features wouldnt hurt :PBPoole96

Connecting online is easy as well. All there is to be done it press "Sign In". Then I can get on desired game, invite friends, start playing. Easy

I agree wit this part..when I had a 360,it was always giving me **** about connecting to live.

Sony online is pretty easy to use except finding things and the complete layout is repetitive, While the 360 is way better

So if Sony expects to charge for online I suggest they givepsn a complete overhaul

[QUOTE="scarface_dm"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Why would that be funny?

BPoole96

because they seem to think having free online is a bonus against 360 and and now they wont be able to use that excuse ;)

It is a bonus over the 360. Let's say the next gen consoles come out in 2012, this gen you will have paid $350 just to play online and use a few features. Instead of me paying that, I will have been able to buy nearly 6 new games.

If Sony does charge, they will probably keep online MP free, sine they know that is a major selling point for them. They will probably come up with a bunch of features/extras and charge for that while keeping online free. That is fine since the fee is not forced upon gamers the way XBL is

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

lol....it's not milking if it's a valuable service that's worth paying for

kingtito

Do we need to go through the features between XBL and PSN? In the beginning, yes, PSN was pretty bad compared to XBL. Now, you have small difference between the 2. The major difference between them is cross voice chat vs no cross game chat. Is that worth $50 to you?

Biased? Maybe. But I have used each service and have my own preferances. The $50 is not justified. Since you brought it up, how is PSN horrible to navigate and which features are just plain bad? I'd really like to know