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#51  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@charizard1605 said:

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@SolidTy said:

It really depends on what this Playstation Support low end "Don Mesa" meant when talking about AAA games (Industry large budget or fans critical reception). He's talking about economics, which makes me think his question in context was about comparing PS3 AAA or big budgeted titles to Vita AAA or big budgeted titles.

I wouldn't believe that support guy as the end all be all for an answer.

Very well said my brother

100% spot on

Took the words out of manys mouths

But leave it to Charizard the Playstation hater to spin negative Sony news any way he can

So brofists, where have you been this last year or so? System Wars missed your unique brand of insane fanatic Sony loyalty, bro. The other Sony fans just don't cut it compared to you.

LOL no way, is this another bro fists account. I don't recall anyone else having so many.

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#52 FoxbatAlpha
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Another sign of a dying company.

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#53 TheTruthIsREAL
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SCEA has mostly been ignoring the vita lately.I know they published some vita games last year, but a lot of them were not AAA handheld games.I do not think SCEA thinks it's economically viable to create AAA handheld games for the vita. They should be supporting the vita more anyway since it builds confidence for the vita and shows the consumers that sony (or SCEA in this case) actually cares about the vita and will support it even if it's not selling that well.

Or be more conservative with their money. Sony is not that thriving company it used to be.

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#54 ZombeGoast
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Hope you like Otaku centric games then.

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#55  Edited By inggrish
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Another sign of a dying system.

fixed :P

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#56 LJS9502_basic  Online
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@charizard1605 said:

So, when asked point blank about whether Sony would even bother putting original big games on the Vita anymore, they flat out said no, because there is no point.


So, it sounds like the Vita is doomed to being a PS Now/Remote Play/multiplat-port-indie trash receptacle for you all. I am sure the people who spent the money on buying it with the promise of a high end handheld experience are very happy with this.

Notice the bolded.....that doesn't necessarily mean what you propose.

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#57 donalbane
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I just use my vita for PS + games mostly. It's great in that respect.

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#58  Edited By blackace
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@charizard1605: They have had original games on the PSVita though. Games like Tearaway, Gravity Rush & Soul Sacrifice were nice. More of these type of games would go a long way in keeping games interested in the PSVita. I'm actually tired of them trying to port older PS3 games to the PSVita. Sure KZ, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Borderlands 2, etc.. are nice, but I'd rather need more original new games or at least some Japan games that haven't been released in the U.S. yet. Nintendo seems to get a lot of those for the 3DS.

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#59 Bigboi500
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So much wasted potential with the Vita.

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#60  Edited By blackace
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@Heirren said:

Where does he state, "no more aaa on vita?"

He didn't really. He kind of danced around it, by saying the economics will make it hard for them to make original "AAA" games. You have to read between the lines. Basically they don't have the funding to have their AAA studios start making original content for the PSVita when the PS4 is the real winner in the stable right now. That's why they are looking at Indie and outsourcing projects to smaller devs because it's cheaper. With Sony's billions in loses every year, I can understand why they are doing this. Kind of sucks though nontheless.

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#61  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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When was there ever "original AAAA content" on the Vita? lol Vita

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#62  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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good. focus all effort on ps4 screw the vita

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#63  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@blackace said:
@Heirren said:

Where does he state, "no more aaa on vita?"

He didn't really. He kind of danced around it, by saying the economics will make it hard for them to make original "AAA" games. You have to read between the lines. Basically they don't have the funding to have their AAA studios start making original content for the PSVita when the PS4 is the real winner in the stable right now. That's why they are looking at Indie and outsourcing projects to smaller devs because it's cheaper. With Sony's billions in loses every year, I can understand why they are doing this. Kind of sucks though nontheless.

If you read it the PS guy prefaces his response by saying "As for the big games". He's clearly talking about AAA CONSOLE budgets, not AAA HANDHELD budgets. That's what charizard got wrong or is at least trying to troll us with. It's all about context and that's why this thread should be locked. Charizard and the PS guy are talking about two different things.

Also, there's a difference between a Sony blog/social media guy and an official Sony statement. So enough of the crap.

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#64  Edited By El_Zo1212o
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I love how many people in this thread are determined to believe this comes from some random support guy even after his credentials have been verified.

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#65  Edited By bezza2011
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It's called the system ain't selling so they can't afford to develop for PS4 and Vita, I mean the system should be alright with third party and remote play and ps+ games, it should be

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@MlauTheDaft said:

@SolidTy said:

It really depends on what this Playstation Support low end "Don Mesa" meant when talking about AAA games (Industry large budget or fans critical reception). He's talking about economics, which makes me think his question in context was about comparing PS3 AAA or big budgeted titles to Vita AAA or big budgeted titles.

I wouldn't believe that support guy as the end all be all for an answer.

Indeed. "Interviewing" customer support is'nt exactly solid evidence of anything.

Urgh, he isn't customer support, he is the director of planning for software lineups on all PlayStation platforms in America- that isn't customer support.

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#67  Edited By Bigboi500
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@Aljosa23 said:

When was there ever "original AAAA content" on the Vita? lol Vita

So sad because the little handheld is capable of some good stuff.

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#68  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@bezza2011 said:

It's called the system ain't selling so they can't afford to develop for PS4 and Vita, I mean the system should be alright with third party and remote play and ps+ games, it should be

It's called 'you are supposed to support your own system with games no matter what its sales are like, or you risk losing consumer confidence.'

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Poor Jon

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@SolidGame_basic said:

@blackace said:
@Heirren said:

Where does he state, "no more aaa on vita?"

He didn't really. He kind of danced around it, by saying the economics will make it hard for them to make original "AAA" games. You have to read between the lines. Basically they don't have the funding to have their AAA studios start making original content for the PSVita when the PS4 is the real winner in the stable right now. That's why they are looking at Indie and outsourcing projects to smaller devs because it's cheaper. With Sony's billions in loses every year, I can understand why they are doing this. Kind of sucks though nontheless.

If you read it the PS guy prefaces his response by saying "As for the big games". He's clearly talking about AAA CONSOLE budgets, not AAA HANDHELD budgets. That's what charizard got wrong or is at least trying to troll us with. It's all about context and that's why this thread should be locked. Charizard and the PS guy are talking about two different things.

Also, there's a difference between a Sony blog/social media guy and an official Sony statement. So enough of the crap.

He actually talking about PSVita games. He even mentions Vita & "AAA" in the same sentence. Did you even read the full response? So no, Charizard didn't get it wrong. They are talking about the same thing. Most of the stuff posted on SW are nothing but blog anyways, yet some people take everything as fact. In this case it appears the guy has been verified to be the director of planning for software lineups on all PlayStation platforms in America. So that's pretty official I would say.

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#71  Edited By LustForSoul
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I'm not asking for more AAA titles, I'm asking for more games. All it is now is indie ports and remakes. The third party support for the PSP was huge, this has none of that.

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#72  Edited By Blabadon
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@charizard1605: Risk losing consumer confidence? Have you seen the Vita's attach rate?

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#73 TrappedInABox91
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Even Sony is saying they're giving up on the Vita lol

I feel sorry for people that recently bought one. I guess its time to trade it in and get a 3DS. At least you know Nintendo aren't giving up on that. Its the only thing that's actually working for them.

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#74  Edited By finalstar2007
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Thats fine by me keep the blockbusters for the PS4.

all i care about when it comes to Vita are the Japanese RPGs baby which the Vita has a lot of!

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#75  Edited By Darkljolly
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It's been known for a long time SCEA gave up on Vita.

It's not going to stop JRPGS from coming in. Like Phantasy Star Nova

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Way to spin things out of context , as usual TC

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@Blabadon said:

@charizard1605: Risk losing consumer confidence? Have you seen the Vita's attach rate?

Did you know 'free' PS+ games are a part of that attach rate?

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#78 Blabadon
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@charizard1605: No, they're not in all statistics. Nice lie.

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#79  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@charizard1605: No, they're not in all statistics. Nice lie.

Yes they are.

Link me to your statistics with anything, actually. Link me to any place that shows us how much Vita hardware and software has been sold. If you're calling me out on 'lying' you're going to have to back yourself up. Go on. I'll wait.

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#80  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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Vita's dead confirmed. All hail the 3ds master race.

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And if the Vita attach rate is actually high, Sony has even less of a reason to ditch support for the handheld like they did. Really, you're not getting out of this one. Sony fucked up.

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#82  Edited By Blabadon
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@charizard1605: Seeing as you just told a flat out lie, I'd say you stop trying to spin things about the Vita (again). It's quite an old act .

"In the US, Vita owners on average have purchased more than 10 games"

"60% of all Vita title purchases are made through the playstation store"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DmoZAPDV3ew#t=2335s

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/hard_soft/index.html

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@Blabadon said:

@charizard1605: Seeing as you just told a flat out lie, I'd say you stop trying to spin things about the Vita (again). It's quite an old act .

Lol, just lol. So you don't have any numbers, you don't have any links, and you're calling me a liar. gg blab. Go play some more shitty games on your Vita, looks like that's all it's gonna be good for now anyway.

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#84  Edited By Blabadon
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Char ignoring links. Same ol' Char. Can't afford games, so he criticizes them first.

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@charizard1605 said:

And if the Vita attach rate is actually high, Sony has even less of a reason to ditch support for the handheld like they did. Really, you're not getting out of this one. Sony fucked up.

Sony are doing the smart thing by putting all focus and resources on the PS4 since the console is selling like hotcakes you really think Sony or any company for that matter would focus on and make AAA games for the Vita when the PS4 is doing like 6 million in like 4 months? it ousold the Vita the in a matter of few months heck even a 5 year old would put all resources and make AAA's for the PS4 instead of the Vita.

BUT Sony are NOT abandoning the Vita! or have you missed the announcement of a new studio and a new team focusing only on the Vita? that studio is putting major focus on bringing 3rd party games for the Vita ( the same team that brought borderlands 2 ) AND putting major focus on localizations ( the same team that helped bring Tales of Hearst, freedom wars and MANY more that were announced this year ).

Sony are doing things exactly right! if a system that has Tales of Hearts R, Freedom Wars, Gravity Rush 2, Mind Zero, D'Ronpa 2, Oreshika, etc to name a few then in the pipeline then the 3DS right now is lulz material.

the president of the same studio i mentioned above is teasing a lot of games coming up soon too http://gearnuke.com/shahid-teases-vita-games/

Sony did not **** up.. a fucking up would be for Sony to make and put resources on the Vita instead of the PS4

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#86  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Blabadon said:

Char ignoring links. Same ol' Char. Can't afford games, so he criticizes them first.

Ah, now he posts the links.

Okay, first off, your first link is for the US only. Also notable is the fact that the Vita's US sales are minuscule. If 600,000 people buy 10 games each, we are still at only 6 million units sold.

Secondly, you haven't shown me where PS+ games are not included in this statistic.

Most importantly, you have not responded to this:

@charizard1605 said:

And if the Vita attach rate is actually high, Sony has even less of a reason to ditch support for the handheld like they did. Really, you're not getting out of this one. Sony fucked up.

Give it up, Blab. Your shtick was funny at first, now it's just annoying and stupid as ****.

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#87  Edited By AutoPilotOn
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I like my vita. I just rebought the slim and it's great hardware. I don't see why it's not more popular. It's way better than trying to game on smartphone and it's better hardware than 3ds to bad 3ds gets all the games.

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#88  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@blackace said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@blackace said:
@Heirren said:

Where does he state, "no more aaa on vita?"

He didn't really. He kind of danced around it, by saying the economics will make it hard for them to make original "AAA" games. You have to read between the lines. Basically they don't have the funding to have their AAA studios start making original content for the PSVita when the PS4 is the real winner in the stable right now. That's why they are looking at Indie and outsourcing projects to smaller devs because it's cheaper. With Sony's billions in loses every year, I can understand why they are doing this. Kind of sucks though nontheless.

If you read it the PS guy prefaces his response by saying "As for the big games". He's clearly talking about AAA CONSOLE budgets, not AAA HANDHELD budgets. That's what charizard got wrong or is at least trying to troll us with. It's all about context and that's why this thread should be locked. Charizard and the PS guy are talking about two different things.

Also, there's a difference between a Sony blog/social media guy and an official Sony statement. So enough of the crap.

He actually talking about PSVita games. He even mentions Vita & "AAA" in the same sentence. Did you even read the full response? So no, Charizard didn't get it wrong. They are talking about the same thing. Most of the stuff posted on SW are nothing but blog anyways, yet some people take everything as fact. In this case it appears the guy has been verified to be the director of planning for software lineups on all PlayStation platforms in America. So that's pretty official I would say.

lol dude he's talking about CONSOLE level budgets. the guy asks about console level quality games on the Vita that were advertised. admittedly, we won't be getting that LEVEL of graphics on the Vita unless it's playstation now. that's NOT assuming we won't be getting AAA quality handheld titles. Freedom Wars for example is coming out in Japan this summer and US is getting it probably in the fall/winter.you're intermixing the meaning of AAA. the guy even mentions big budget titles. since when do handhelds get bid budgets? why do you think both Nintendo and Sony have been porting and doing remakes? they can't get those kind of budgets. that's what he means by economics. Lord almighty!

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This is smart, focus on the ps4.

Now if only Nintendo would have done the same with the WiiU, it's a bit late for that now tho.

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Hahahahahah the spin. Sees the attach rate and starts going to hardware sales.

Poor Char trying to make his cake and eat it too. Ignores the word "purchased" because it would debunk his PS+ theory.

Anomalies happen Char. The 3DS has a garbage attach rate yet Nintendo releases games for it. Third parties besides Atlus and indies? Those are more middling numbers for the 3DS.

One would only wonder if people like me who actively buy games for both didn't exist. The poor 3DS might go below three games per.

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#91  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Blabadon said:

Hahahahahah the spin. Sees the attach rate and starts going to hardware sales.

Poor Char trying to make his cake and eat it too. Ignores the word "purchased" because it would debunk his PS+ theory.

Anomalies happen Char. The 3DS has a garbage attach rate yet Nintendo releases games for it. Third parties besides Atlus and indies? Those are more middling numbers for the 3DS.

One would only wonder if people like me who actively buy games for both didn't exist. The poor 3DS might go below three games per.

Jesus Christ, are you a shitty troll. I give up, you're not worth the time or effort. I'd be better served talking to freedomfreelife.

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@charizard1605: Get on Steam lmao

Do you have Need for Speed Most Wante btw?

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Vita had AAA original content to begin with? Isn't this more of a confirmation that they will just keep doing what they are doing (AKA ignoring it)?

Pretty much.. but them confirming it destroys the hopes of people thinking it might change.

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#94  Edited By blackace
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@blackace said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@blackace said:
@Heirren said:

Where does he state, "no more aaa on vita?"

He didn't really. He kind of danced around it, by saying the economics will make it hard for them to make original "AAA" games. You have to read between the lines. Basically they don't have the funding to have their AAA studios start making original content for the PSVita when the PS4 is the real winner in the stable right now. That's why they are looking at Indie and outsourcing projects to smaller devs because it's cheaper. With Sony's billions in loses every year, I can understand why they are doing this. Kind of sucks though nontheless.

If you read it the PS guy prefaces his response by saying "As for the big games". He's clearly talking about AAA CONSOLE budgets, not AAA HANDHELD budgets. That's what charizard got wrong or is at least trying to troll us with. It's all about context and that's why this thread should be locked. Charizard and the PS guy are talking about two different things.

Also, there's a difference between a Sony blog/social media guy and an official Sony statement. So enough of the crap.

He actually talking about PSVita games. He even mentions Vita & "AAA" in the same sentence. Did you even read the full response? So no, Charizard didn't get it wrong. They are talking about the same thing. Most of the stuff posted on SW are nothing but blog anyways, yet some people take everything as fact. In this case it appears the guy has been verified to be the director of planning for software lineups on all PlayStation platforms in America. So that's pretty official I would say.

lol dude he's talking about CONSOLE level budgets. the guy asks about console level quality games on the Vita that were advertised. admittedly, we won't be getting that LEVEL of graphics on the Vita unless it's playstation now. that's NOT assuming we won't be getting AAA quality handheld titles. Freedom Wars for example is coming out in Japan this summer and US is getting it probably in the fall/winter.you're intermixing the meaning of AAA. the guy even mentions big budget titles. since when do handhelds get bid budgets? why do you think both Nintendo and Sony have been porting and doing remakes? they can't get those kind of budgets. that's what he means by economics. Lord almighty!

No, he's talking about "console quality AAA games on PSVita". Learn how to read. He's saying they don't have the funds to make big budget games on the PSVita. There not even a PS4 even mentioned in any of the paragraphs. LOL!! You're either blind or cluess, or both. Try reading it again.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

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Where does he state, "no more aaa on vita?"

He didn't really. He kind of danced around it, by saying the economics will make it hard for them to make original "AAA" games. You have to read between the lines. Basically they don't have the funding to have their AAA studios start making original content for the PSVita when the PS4 is the real winner in the stable right now. That's why they are looking at Indie and outsourcing projects to smaller devs because it's cheaper. With Sony's billions in loses every year, I can understand why they are doing this. Kind of sucks though nontheless.

If you read it the PS guy prefaces his response by saying "As for the big games". He's clearly talking about AAA CONSOLE budgets, not AAA HANDHELD budgets. That's what charizard got wrong or is at least trying to troll us with. It's all about context and that's why this thread should be locked. Charizard and the PS guy are talking about two different things.

Also, there's a difference between a Sony blog/social media guy and an official Sony statement. So enough of the crap.

He actually talking about PSVita games. He even mentions Vita & "AAA" in the same sentence. Did you even read the full response? So no, Charizard didn't get it wrong. They are talking about the same thing. Most of the stuff posted on SW are nothing but blog anyways, yet some people take everything as fact. In this case it appears the guy has been verified to be the director of planning for software lineups on all PlayStation platforms in America. So that's pretty official I would say.

lol dude he's talking about CONSOLE level budgets. the guy asks about console level quality games on the Vita that were advertised. admittedly, we won't be getting that LEVEL of graphics on the Vita unless it's playstation now. that's NOT assuming we won't be getting AAA quality handheld titles. Freedom Wars for example is coming out in Japan this summer and US is getting it probably in the fall/winter.you're intermixing the meaning of AAA. the guy even mentions big budget titles. since when do handhelds get bid budgets? why do you think both Nintendo and Sony have been porting and doing remakes? they can't get those kind of budgets. that's what he means by economics. Lord almighty!

No, he's talking about "console quality AAA games on PSVita". Learn how to read. He's saying they don't have the funds to make big budget games on the PSVita. There not even a PS4 even mentioned in any of the paragraphs. LOL!! You're either blind or cluess, or both. Try reading it again.

I guess you didn't do well on reading comprehension in school because he does mention the PS4, moron. you're just being a stubborn idiot now. and what you bolded was what I was talking about. anyway, I'll leave you to talk to yourself now.

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@SolidTy said:

It really depends on what this Playstation Support low end "Don Mesa" meant when talking about AAA games (Industry large budget or fans critical reception). He's talking about economics, which makes me think his question in context was about comparing PS3 AAA or big budgeted titles to Vita AAA or big budgeted titles.

I wouldn't believe that support guy as the end all be all for an answer.

thank you. someone who actually understands english. why would he say they aren't anymore Vita AAA games coming out? just doesn't make any sense

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#97  Edited By speedfog
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VITA means life, a short life.

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It is a shame if they aren't doing any more "console quality" games.

Killzone and Uncharted are pretty badass on Vita, considering it's a mere handheld they were pretty ambitious games to make. But I understand those probably had relatively high production budgets compared to most other handheld games - and with Vita sales low they aren't really all that feasible to make exclusive to a handheld.

Hopefully if they aren't going to do any "risky" big budget projects, there will be room for them to double down on a greater number smaller projects that are exclusive to Vita. Small projects have better chance of being profitable.

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Sad the Vita never took off, it just isn't worth getting relative to the 3DS. Not surprised Sony's abandoning it.

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Sad the Vita never took off, it just isn't worth getting relative to the 3DS. Not surprised Sony's abandoning it.

It's too bad. It's crazy how much better little system the Vita is than the 3DS. The market (what's left of the handheld market) totally got that one wrong.

There is not really much else Sony could have done with this one, although they did seem to give up on it pretty quick