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If you wondered why Titanfall is (at least for now) exclusive to Xbox One, Xbox 360 and PC, Infinity Wards co-founder Vince Zampella has the answer, as he clarified yesterday as part of an interview on IGN.
First of all, the studio seems to have an hoops-free relationship with Microsoft, that facilitated the delivery of the devkits:
The day we announced the studio, an hour later Im on the phone with our Microsoft rep. We have dev kits. Tell us where to send them. There were no hoops to jump throughthats just the relationship we have.

Of course thats not all, and Respawn started working on the game without any exclusivity in mind. Things changed when they realized the potential of the cloud feature brought by Windows 8 and Xbox One.
It allowed us to think of the game a little differently. That was the perfect solution.

Looks like Respawn has something similar to Forza Motorsport 5s Driveatar in mind, in get the AI to behave in a more human and natural way.
Of course, considering the fact that Sonys Shuhei Yoshida already confirmed that the PS4 has the same cloud-based capabilities, this begs the question on how long Titanfall will actually remain exclusive. It also makes me wonder on how the game will play on Xbox 360, that doesnt sport the same feature.
Personally, PC will remain my platform of choice for this game, considering that the precision delivered by mouse and keyboard easily wins me over, even if Zampella seems to think of it as an obstacle to the possibility of implementing cross-platform gameplay.
What about you? On what platform are you going to play?

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/...ith-microsoft/

So? I guess Cows are gonna somehow spin this as a good thing now since claiming BS for the last week right?

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PS4 has more local power so who gives a shit.
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Such complexity such as cloud is not going to work well.

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We already know, we already don't really care.
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#5 timbers_WSU
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We already know, we already don't really care.Floppy_Jim
Yes you do. All Cows do. That is why every topic is about the XB1 these days. And they are all started by Cows.
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Somewhere in teh cloudz...

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#7 SecretPolice
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The PS1 days was different and they rocked but since then Sony does seem to be the Johnny come lately, me too kinda company. That said, them trying to catch up with MS on cloud computing will be like them trying to catch up to XBL this gen.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]We already know, we already don't really care.timbers_WSU
Yes you do. All Cows do. That is why every topic is about the XB1 these days. And they are all started by Cows.

Cows Cows Cows :cry: Boring.

"Cloud powah" means zero to me in deciding which platform to buy.

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me too it's raining outside
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sony behind once again, uh oh ps4 fans.

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PS4 has more local power so who gives a shit.SaltyMeatballs

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We already know, we already don't really care.Floppy_Jim
and this.

 

Unlike lemmings, cows have strong hard advantages on our side. We don't subscribe to this magic could rubbish

 

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]We already know, we already don't really care.Douevenlift_bro

and this.

 

Unlike lemmings, cows have strong hard advantages on our side. We don't subscribe to this magic could rubbish

 

No, you subscribe to the strong hard man crush of a Japanese business man rubbish. And the hyping of first party titles you don't want yourself.
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PS4 has more local power so who gives a shit.SaltyMeatballs
computing power can add less strain to a console and better/more realistic graphics than local power which is limited
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truthfact x1 will have better lifelike A.I next gen, Sony might be forced to play catch up, its not like it hasnt happened before, for gods sake they didnt even say you needed an ethernet connection to play playstayshon

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If you wondered why Titanfall is (at least for now) exclusive to Xbox One, Xbox 360 and PC, Infinity Wards co-founder Vince Zampella has the answer, as he clarified yesterday as part of an interview on IGN.
First of all, the studio seems to have an hoops-free relationship with Microsoft, that facilitated the delivery of the devkits:
The day we announced the studio, an hour later Im on the phone with our Microsoft rep. We have dev kits. Tell us where to send them. There were no hoops to jump throughthats just the relationship we have.

Of course thats not all, and Respawn started working on the game without any exclusivity in mind. Things changed when they realized the potential of the cloud feature brought by Windows 8 and Xbox One.
It allowed us to think of the game a little differently. That was the perfect solution.

Looks like Respawn has something similar to Forza Motorsport 5s Driveatar in mind, in get the AI to behave in a more human and natural way.
Of course, considering the fact that Sonys Shuhei Yoshida already confirmed that the PS4 has the same cloud-based capabilities, this begs the question on how long Titanfall will actually remain exclusive. It also makes me wonder on how the game will play on Xbox 360, that doesnt sport the same feature.
Personally, PC will remain my platform of choice for this game, considering that the precision delivered by mouse and keyboard easily wins me over, even if Zampella seems to think of it as an obstacle to the possibility of implementing cross-platform gameplay.
What about you? On what platform are you going to play?

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/...ith-microsoft/

So? I guess Cows are gonna somehow spin this as a good thing now since claiming BS for the last week right?

timbers_WSU

 

NO cloud power is a hoax and aside from some simple things it will serve for nothing,sony claimed the same because dahhh cloud computing is not something xbox one exclusive it could be done even on PS3 and xbox 360.

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truthfact x1 will have better lifelike A.I next gen, Sony might be forced to play catch up, its not like it hasnt happened before, for gods sake they didnt even say you needed an ethernet connection to play playstayshon

Mr720fan

 

Yeah lets forget the whole 50% power advantage of the PS4,and lets forget how the PS4 GPU is custom to handle more compute jobs  than even a 7970..

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[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]We already know, we already don't really care.timbers_WSU

and this.

 

Unlike lemmings, cows have strong hard advantages on our side. We don't subscribe to this magic could rubbish

 

No, you subscribe to the strong hard man crush of a Japanese business man rubbish. And the hyping of first party titles you don't want yourself.

*Yawn*

 

SDC.

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MS innovates... Sony copies with cheap imitations. Sony's Cloud will not be for processing it will be only for streaming. If you want a TRULY next-gen experience get Xbox Won.
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[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

truthfact x1 will have better lifelike A.I next gen, Sony might be forced to play catch up, its not like it hasnt happened before, for gods sake they didnt even say you needed an ethernet connection to play playstayshon

tormentos

Yeah lets forget the whole 50% power advantage of the PS4,and lets forget how the PS4 GPU is custom to handle more compute jobs than even a 7970..

still unlifelike A.I, cloud adds new computations off of stats behaviors. i see the idea of drivatar, sorry.

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MS innovates... Sony copies with cheap imitations. Sony's Cloud will not be for processing it will be only for streaming. If you want a TRULY next-gen experience get Xbox Won.robybaggio

yeah now they are gonna follow just like the ethernet cord, we do see a trend here. They are more of a hardware company...

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]PS4 has more local power so who gives a shit.AD216
computing power can add less strain to a console and better/more realistic graphics than local power which is limited

 

GTFU with that stupid theory..

So the xbox one will be more powerful than a Titan GPU because cloud power is unlimited right.?

 

Did you know that the PS4 GPU is custom to handle more compute jobs than GCN or the xbox one GPU are.?

GCN and the xbox one has 2 Aces and 4 compute commands,the PS4 GPU has 8 Aces and 64 compute commands...So yeah compute jobs on PS4 will perform better than on xbox one,even with the mighty hoax cloud.

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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]PS4 has more local power so who gives a shit.tormentos

computing power can add less strain to a console and better/more realistic graphics than local power which is limited

 

GTFU with that stupid theory..

So the xbox one will be more powerful than a Titan GPU because cloud power is unlimited right.?

 

Did you know that the PS4 GPU is custom to handle more compute jobs than GCN or the xbox one GPU are.?

GCN and the xbox one has 2 Aces and 4 compute commands,the PS4 GPU has 8 Aces and 64 compute commands...So yeah compute jobs on PS4 will perform better than on xbox one,even with the mighty hoax cloud.

lmao u should really look at the developers reviews on the cloud. it's impressive. dnt get me wrong tho, the ps4's power is impressive as hell too. and u seem kinda upset. u must work for sony or something huh?

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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

truthfact x1 will have better lifelike A.I next gen, Sony might be forced to play catch up, its not like it hasnt happened before, for gods sake they didnt even say you needed an ethernet connection to play playstayshon

Mr720fan

 

Yeah lets forget the whole 50% power advantage of the PS4,and lets forget how the PS4 GPU is custom to handle more compute jobs than even a 7970..

still unlifelike A.I, cloud adds new computations off of stats behaviors. i see the idea of drivatar, sorry.

 

AI is not everything on a game.

 

And once again i don't see the PS4 having AI problems any time soon,they claim AI offload because it basically one of the very few things you can do with cloud computing,and it will not make the xbox one games look better like they claimed several times.

 

Anything comming from MS now most be take with 1 million trucks of salt,they have lie all the way since the xbox one reveal on purpose,and try to confuse people with everything xbox..

Is so sad that they have claim 3 different power level for the xbox one already.10 times more powerful than a 360,then 3 times and then 8 times,ms is all over the place telling lies,in spec by leaks the xbox one is just 5 to 6 times more powerful than the xbox 360.

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[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

Yeah lets forget the whole 50% power advantage of the PS4,and lets forget how the PS4 GPU is custom to handle more compute jobs than even a 7970..

tormentos

still unlifelike A.I, cloud adds new computations off of stats behaviors. i see the idea of drivatar, sorry.

AI is not everything on a game.

And once again i don't see the PS4 having AI problems any time soon,they claim AI offload because it basically one of the very few things you can do with cloud computing,and it will not make the xbox one games look better like they claimed several times.

Anything comming from MS now most be take with 1 million trucks of salt,they have lie all the way since the xbox one reveal on purpose,and try to confuse people with everything xbox..

Is so sad that they have claim 3 different power level for the xbox one already.10 times more powerful than a 360,then 3 times and then 8 times,ms is all over the place telling lies,in spec by leaks the xbox one is just 5 to 6 times more powerful than the xbox 360.

i think you are just worried, but yes x1 will have superior A.I

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CLOUD POWER > PS4 & TEH CELL! 

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Of course thats not all, and Respawn started working on the game without any exclusivity in mind. Things changed when they realized the potential of the cloud feature brought by Windows 8 and Xbox One.  It allowed us to think of the game a little differently. That was the perfect solutiontimbers_WSU

 

Dev's not bashing but actually supporting the cloud has got me thinking that maybe there is more to the cloud than we know.  If MS actually pulls it off and makes it successful, Sony will be playing catch-up the same way they did with Xbox Live and Trophies.  Although Sony does have cloud service, I doubt its anywhere near as robust as MS's 

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#28 Mr720fan
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CLOUD POWER > PS4 & TEH CELL!

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cloud powereeez kills the cell.

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AI is not everything on a game.

 tormentos

 

Yeah it is. 

Could you imagine an RPG in the future like the ES, with 1000's of NPCs that acted like real humans, sentient beings? 

Compare Duke Nukem's AI to Half Life's in FPS. Quantum leap. Half Life to Halo. Same thing. 

 

AI is what makes the world more real and authentic. I spoke to someone at Rockstar a few years back who told me that AI in future GTA will be so advanced that every person on the in the game will have their own unique personality.

 

Forget graphics fidelity, this is trully next gen.

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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]Of course thats not all, and Respawn started working on the game without any exclusivity in mind. Things changed when they realized the potential of the cloud feature brought by Windows 8 and Xbox One. It allowed us to think of the game a little differently. That was the perfect solutionDeevoshun

Dev's not bashing but actually supporting the cloud has got me thinking that maybe there is more to the cloud than we know. If MS actually pulls it off and makes it successful, Sony will be playing catch-up the same way they did with Xbox Live and Trophies. Although Sony does have cloud service, I doubt its anywhere near as robust as MS's

yep see that scenario too, might be enough to save sony cause they will already have a lead, but cows will be owned and loving the cloudage

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cloud crap again...
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]AI is not everything on a game.

robybaggio

Yeah it is.

Could you imagine an RPG in the future like the ES, with 1000's of NPCs that acted like real humans, sentient beings?

Compare Duke Nukem's AI to Half Life's in FPS. Quantum leap. Half Life to Halo. Same thing.

AI is what makes the world more real and authentic. I spoke to someone at Rockstar a few years back who told me that AI in future GTA will be so advanced that every person on the in the game will have their own unique personality.

Forget graphics fidelity, this is trully next gen.

i read a thing on neogaf that detailed it expertly. they said open world games like elder scrolls can have different scenarios set ahead in the could for locations they know you are going to be entering, think skyrim mapp opening up from the darkness, and can make destructible compute A.I in the distance type of stuff that seems like it can be done.

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cloud crap again...legalize82

gaining some speed bud, titanfall devs said they are making good use of it. that game is sick.

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[QUOTE="robybaggio"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]AI is not everything on a game.

Mr720fan

Yeah it is.

Could you imagine an RPG in the future like the ES, with 1000's of NPCs that acted like real humans, sentient beings?

Compare Duke Nukem's AI to Half Life's in FPS. Quantum leap. Half Life to Halo. Same thing.

AI is what makes the world more real and authentic. I spoke to someone at Rockstar a few years back who told me that AI in future GTA will be so advanced that every person on the in the game will have their own unique personality.

Forget graphics fidelity, this is trully next gen.

i read a thing on neogaf that detailed it expertly. they said open world games like elder scrolls can have different scenarios set ahead in the could for locations they know you are going to be entering, think skyrim mapp opening up from the darkness, and can make destructible compute A.I in the distance type of stuff that seems like it can be done.

drivatar huh ? hahahahahaha
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[QUOTE="legalize82"]cloud crap again...Mr720fan

gaining some speed bud, titanfall devs said they are making good use of it. that game is sick.

didnt see any of that cloud crap titanfall look ugly ass hell....
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i think you are just worried, but yes x1 will have superior A.I

Mr720fan

 

No i don't i just have a higher understandment of how graphics work than you.

 

Cloud = Hoax even the PS3 and 360 can use cloud,and hell sony bough gaikai is was the biggest cloud gaming service out there,but you don't see me saying how sony will have unlimited power on the PS4 because it is a hoax.

 

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[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

[QUOTE="robybaggio"]

Yeah it is.

Could you imagine an RPG in the future like the ES, with 1000's of NPCs that acted like real humans, sentient beings?

Compare Duke Nukem's AI to Half Life's in FPS. Quantum leap. Half Life to Halo. Same thing.

AI is what makes the world more real and authentic. I spoke to someone at Rockstar a few years back who told me that AI in future GTA will be so advanced that every person on the in the game will have their own unique personality.

Forget graphics fidelity, this is trully next gen.

legalize82

i read a thing on neogaf that detailed it expertly. they said open world games like elder scrolls can have different scenarios set ahead in the could for locations they know you are going to be entering, think skyrim mapp opening up from the darkness, and can make destructible compute A.I in the distance type of stuff that seems like it can be done.

drivatar huh ? hahahahahaha

oh yeahhhhh

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[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

i think you are just worried, but yes x1 will have superior A.I

tormentos

No i don't i just have a higher understandment of how graphics work than you.

Cloud = Hoax even the PS3 and 360 can use cloud,and hell sony bough gaikai is was the biggest cloud gaming service out there,but you don't see me saying how sony will have unlimited power on the PS4 because it is a hoax.

sorry but we arent talking about graphics or at least i wasnt. x1 is your lover

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[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

 

i think you are just worried, but yes x1 will have superior A.I

tormentos

 

No i don't i just have a higher understandment of how graphics work than you.

 

Cloud = Hoax even the PS3 and 360 can use cloud,and hell sony bough gaikai is was the biggest cloud gaming service out there,but you don't see me saying how sony will have unlimited power on the PS4 because it is a hoax.

 

Gaikai had fewer servers than ONlive so wtf are you talking about.
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da clouds is a hoax even lemmings know it but they have nothing to fight for so they use this.... they knowit we know it..
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]AI is not everything on a game.

 robybaggio

 

Yeah it is. 

Could you imagine an RPG in the future like the ES, with 1000's of NPCs that acted like real humans, sentient beings? 

Compare Duke Nukem's AI to Half Life's in FPS. Quantum leap. Half Life to Halo. Same thing. 

 

AI is what makes the world more real and authentic. I spoke to someone at Rockstar a few years back who told me that AI in future GTA will be so advanced that every person on the in the game will have their own unique personality.

 

Forget graphics fidelity, this is trully next gen.

 

Oh please dude Cloud gaming is this gen 4D...:lol:

Hell it requires online which basically mean a half ass experience,we know connections drops,lag,loss packages it is a joke,so what will happen if your connection has a drop like all do all the time.? Will the AI act stuppid while your internet is having issues.?

You people don't look at the picture here,one thing is requiring online to check every 24 hours,another is need contant internet without drops to keep a certain level of playability.

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[QUOTE="legalize82"]da clouds is a hoax even lemmings know it but they have nothing to fight for so they use this.... they knowit we know it..

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#43 Heil68
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So titanFall will never come to PS4 because of the cloud? *bookmarked*
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#44 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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So titanFall will never come to PS4 because of the cloud? *bookmarked* Heil68
who cares it's coming to PC
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#45 legalize82
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So titanFall will never come to PS4 because of the cloud? *bookmarked* Heil68
funny thing is its coming on xbox360.... a box not using da magic clouds
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#46 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]So titanFall will never come to PS4 because of the cloud? *bookmarked* Jandurin
who cares it's coming to PC

PC must have..TEH CLOUD.
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#47 tormentos
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[QUOTE="legalize82"]cloud crap again...Mr720fan

gaining some speed bud, titanfall devs said they are making good use of it. that game is sick.

 

OH please is COD with mech robots..:lol:

The apple doesn't fall far you know it..

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#48 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

 

i think you are just worried, but yes x1 will have superior A.I

Far_RockNYC

 

No i don't i just have a higher understandment of how graphics work than you.

 

Cloud = Hoax even the PS3 and 360 can use cloud,and hell sony bough gaikai is was the biggest cloud gaming service out there,but you don't see me saying how sony will have unlimited power on the PS4 because it is a hoax.

 

Gaikai had fewer servers than ONlive so wtf are you talking about.

 

And who had more client idiot.? 

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#50 Mr720fan
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[QUOTE="Far_RockNYC"][QUOTE="tormentos"]

No i don't i just have a higher understandment of how graphics work than you.

Cloud = Hoax even the PS3 and 360 can use cloud,and hell sony bough gaikai is was the biggest cloud gaming service out there,but you don't see me saying how sony will have unlimited power on the PS4 because it is a hoax.

tormentos

Gaikai had fewer servers than ONlive so wtf are you talking about.

And who had more client idiot.?

your having a cow breakdown, its ok. relax