Sony should just AXE the KZ franchise.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] That post is as broken as MW2.gamebreakerz__

Which Halo or Call of Duty game has sold 21.22 million, then? :P

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Which Halo or Call of Duty game has sold 21.22 million, then? :P

[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Hexagon_777: Mummy, all my buddies have mario cart so I need it!!!! Mummy: OK darling! So essentialy all the casual kiddies buy it and BTW even though I don't like MW2, its sold 22 million and still going.gamebreakerz__

umm call of duty was not hugely popular until call of duty 4 modern warfare, so I think they should keep going with the KZ franchise, the visuals were amazing and the multiplayer was great it just missed mass appeal with the slugish controls.Totalgym9000

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="brennan7777"] An exclusive selling 22 million is much more impressive than a game on 3 systems selling 22 million.

why is Sony funding two big budget FPS anyway? (resistance and killzone). They should just ditch one for the other. Since Killzone 2 was delayed numerous times, overbudgeted (initial 20 million budget to over 60 million in the end), and siphoned lots of Sony's valuable time and resources (major game development issues forced Sony to lend Guerrilla most of their top talents). Resistance on the other hand came out on time on a far smaller budget. Imaging how much better it would've been if Insomniac had all that budget, time, and resources that Guerrilla had. runbleduck

Simple. Resistance is the PS3's Halo. The gameplay is very much Halo, and the damage model, the sci fi weapons, multiple grenade types. It'ls Halo.

KZ2 is not, it's a different kind of FPS, and for all the comments about it being generic, no other FPS really plays quite like it. So they have a Halo-type game for people that like it, and another type of game for those who don't.

I'm sure there are people who like both, but they are so different I can see plenty of people preferring one over the other.

So what you are is saying is that Sony should cancel the Killzone franchise simply because it didn't beat Halo or CoD in sales even though it's a high quality game that sold millions?

I guess you also think Microsoft should cancel Halo if Reach doesn't beat MW2 sales right?

Why do ppl keep saying kz2 online is dead. Its not :|

Really can't wait for Killzone 3.

Nah Killzone 2 was a good game. If anything, they should axe the Resistance franchiseAnjunaddict

[QUOTE="RonJonx10"]I mean really is anyone going to loose a wink of sleep if we did not see KZ3? Not to mention it would seem the budget to make this game will not meet the demand of worth while sales at this point. I think that Sony should just put this baby to bed.GreenGoblin2099

Same could be said about CoD and Halo :roll:

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Nah Killzone 2 was a good game. If anything, they should axe the Resistance franchisekillzowned24

KZ2 was the sequel to an average game that was KZ1... so its not like it was easy for devs/game to succeed.. also the (visual) expectations from PS3 owners & specially haters were really high.. luckily KZ2 did deliver in all aspects, great visuals, good sp campaign & great multiplayer..

I think sony/GG should definately continue the KZ franchise, cause now is the right time considering that KZ has now a good 'reputation' among fps fans & the media...

Definatlely look forward to KZ3 & a KZ title for PSP :P

yeah that makes sense.......AXE the game that just scored AAA. If you want to AXE one of PS3 FPS exclusive titles I would rather it be Resistance Fall of Man. The second one was majorly disappointing.darthogre

well i have to disagree, cause if dont agree in ending the KZ franchise simply cause KZ2 got a AAA score, the same should apply to the Resistance series which though not the best fps titles around, both were good titles (and both had decent/good reviews).. I enjoyed the 1st game (specially sp) and had a blast playing R2's multiplayer.. I think Insomniac have the chance to get the best from the first 2 titles, and improve upon that formula and they could easily have in hands a solid fps title..

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Nah Killzone 2 was a good game. If anything, they should axe the Resistance franchiseAnjunaddict

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] yes, axe games that scored a 9 or higher at most major sites. lol, wtf? R2- Gamespot=9 * Fantastic eight-player cooperative mode * Large, vividly detailed environments * Smart, tough enemies and huge, huge bosses * Lag-free online matches with up to 60 players * Varied and powerful weapons.killzowned24

and also lets not forget R2 had a decent sp campaign and a great mp... had a blast playing online & co-op was simply great :)

This thread should be put to bed. KZ is a good franchise. Millions of people have bought the games and most really like them. Ill take KZ3 over any other shooter thats released.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] Whats score got to do with it!? The gaming market could be oversaturated with 9.0 shooters, but that still doesn't change the fact its oversaturated. I still think Resistance's existence is uneccessary. Its story is nothing special, and when it comes to game design, they just think that making everything bigger = better. Which btw is not the case. I'd much prefer Insomniac spent their resources coming up with a new, actually interesting IP, or even better, spent them making some uber awesome ratchet and clank game. But that would just be me being selfish. Malta_1980

and also lets not forget R2 had a decent sp campaign and a great mp... had a blast playing online & co-op was simply great :)

[QUOTE="RonJonx10"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

You obviously weren't around by the time of this Helghast vs Locust Horde poll was around... the Helghast slaughtered the Locusts. :roll:

Please avoid further embarrasment by not talking non-sense.

finalfantasy94

Cause sales mean everything:roll:. A game can still be awesome and not sell well.

I am of two minds about it. It would be a shame axe a good series, but on the other hand, the PS3 might be better off not focusing on shooters. If they finish Killzone 3, I sincerely hope they add a local multiplayer mode.

Resistance has to go though.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] That post is as broken as MW2.gamebreakerz__

That same argument applies to Halo and Call of Duty. Why do you think parents always end up making a fuss about the violence in video games? And could I have a link for that figure, please?

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[QUOTE="RonJonx10"]I mean really is anyone going to loose a wink of sleep if we did not see KZ3? Not to mention it would seem the budget to make this game will not meet the demand of worth while sales at this point. I think that Sony should just put this baby to bed.Nedemis

Same could be said about CoD and Halo :roll:

[QUOTE="brennan7777"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Hexagon_777: Mummy, all my buddies have mario cart so I need it!!!! Mummy: OK darling! So essentialy all the casual kiddies buy it and BTW even though I don't like MW2, its sold 22 million and still going.gamebreakerz__

The fact of the matter is that the average age of Mario Kart Wii gamers is in the single digits? Link, please. Also, if you want to play some real games, get a PC. I have been feeling way too guided on the console games I've played.

I think most are missing the point. Don't you guys remeber back in the day Sony really was claiming and looking for KZ to be there all mighty Halo killer or at worst be as good and be on par with sales. The plan was Sony would be able to stop the bleeding from Halo dominance with KZ. LOL well it released and was a buggy frame rate mess on PS2.

My point is the story is bland and failry boring. And Sony is just trying to force a dead issue with this game now. I say SCRAP it and start a new way more better story exciting franchise as the new Halo killer. Especialy now being Bunievision is no longer doing Halo. And who knows what MS other studio will do with Halo now.

RonJonx10

Yeah, the sequel wildly outperformed everyone's expectations because of the first one being bad, both critically and commercially, it's one of the best-looking and best-playing shooters on consoles. They should axe it because it's successful, sure. :roll:Hahadouken

KZ2 SP was a lot of fun, I am waiting for the 3rd one and expecting a huge war.

i don't agree. while its not my cup of tea, a lot of people think KZ2 is great.

Are you an economist for Sony or something? (If you are one you're soon to be fired) I don't see why sales matter to gamers these days, maybe I just didn't pay attention but in the PsOne and N64 days no one cared about sales as much as they do now.

Personally I enjoyed Killzone 2 far more compared to Modern Warfare 1 and 2 combined.

I see no reason for them to axe the franchise but they do need to higher some experianced map makers for the next game. KZ2 mp has some of the worst maps I have ever played in a multiplayer shooter.

I feel like killzone series isn't that the quality is low (killzone 2 probably is top 5 best multiplayer designed games this generation) it is that brand name is hurting it. Killzone 1 was an infamous game, the cgi trailer was infamous. The marketing of the game is a disaster. They really should rebrand the game series.

I see no reason for them to axe the franchise but they do need to higher some experianced map makers for the next game. KZ2 mp has some of the worst maps I have ever played in a multiplayer shooter.

rzepak

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I see no reason for them to axe the franchise but they do need to higher some experianced map makers for the next game. KZ2 mp has some of the worst maps I have ever played in a multiplayer shooter.

Hahadouken

MW2 maps are decent at best but I cant really judge whether they are better since my gripe with the KZ2 maps are that some of them seem as if they were not made for a game controlled with a pad and I play MW2 on PC. Tight corridors, tight staricases, tight walkways these are not elements that make a good console mp map.

[QUOTE="reanimatedchamp"]I agree with this because more people are playing the Halo Reach beta than Killzone 2. Hell more people are still playing Halo 2. Killzone should be killed, in my personal educated reality of opinions.gamebreakerz__

Wasn't he the one who made a thread stating he likes bing.com because microsoft made it?? :)

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="rzepak"]

I see no reason for them to axe the franchise but they do need to higher some experianced map makers for the next game. KZ2 mp has some of the worst maps I have ever played in a multiplayer shooter.

rzepak

MW2 maps are decent at best but I cant really judge whether they are better since my gripe with the KZ2 maps are that some of them seem as if they were not made for a game controlled with a pad and I play MW2 on PC. Tight corridors, tight staricases, tight walkways these are not elements that make a good console mp map.

Axe it what?

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="rzepak"]

I see no reason for them to axe the franchise but they do need to higher some experianced map makers for the next game. KZ2 mp has some of the worst maps I have ever played in a multiplayer shooter.

rzepak

MW2 maps are decent at best but I cant really judge whether they are better since my gripe with the KZ2 maps are that some of them seem as if they were not made for a game controlled with a pad and I play MW2 on PC. Tight corridors, tight staricases, tight walkways these are not elements that make a good console mp map.

Are you kidding me? Its got one of the best kill "chirps" in gaming history. That alone is a reason to keep it around.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

I see no reason for them to axe the franchise but they do need to higher some experianced map makers for the next game. KZ2 mp has some of the worst maps I have ever played in a multiplayer shooter.

Hahadouken

I agree, Killzone 2's maps are what made the multiplayer fun for me. I never got bored of any of the maps (the only other game that I've played whose maps I enjoyed as much as KZ2's was Modern Warfare I. I just started playing Halo 3 as well, and there are some pretty fun maps in it, but I haven't played enough to judge yet lol. It's a fun game though, and I can't believe I waited so long to get a 360). There are some fun maps in MW II, but a large portion of them aren't that fun to play.