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#101 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

Halo - FPS

Blue Dragon - RPG

Lost Odyssey - RPG

Forza - Racing

Fable - Action RPG

Halo Wars - RTS

Gears - TPS

Banjo Kazooie - Platformer

Kameo - Platformer

Perfect Dark Zero - FPS

Crackdown 2 - Open world game

99 nights - Action

Too Human - Action RPG

Alan Wake - 3rd person horror

jimmypsn
Only Halo is worth purchasing. The rest is not that good. I rather have heavy rain than all those games put together. That's my opinion.

That's a terrible opinion IMO.
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#102 Master_ShakeXXX
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you know it's bad when the company's CEO AND their fanbase act the same.

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Contrary to popular belief Cows arn't the most ignorant fanbase. There are just as many ignorant Hermits and Lems.

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#103 93soccer
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http://play.tm/news/31889/sony-takes-jab-at-microsoft-says-360-is-reliant-on-shooters/

Sony keeps whining and taking shots at their competitors. Why can't they just focus on their own problems.

bphan
Because sony's insecure about their own products so they have to bash other's to make it look good :)
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#104 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Typical Sony bashing claiming them to be arrogant while ignoring MS arrogance.

Ragnarok1051
Trash talk is fine, but not from last place.

Arrogance is arrogance and MS isn't dominating enough to trash talk.

They're doing better then Sony.
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#105 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="bphan"]

http://play.tm/news/31889/sony-takes-jab-at-microsoft-says-360-is-reliant-on-shooters/

Sony keeps whining and taking shots at their competitors. Why can't they just focus on their own problems.

93soccer

Because sony's insecure about their own products so they have to bash other's to make it look good :)

wait microsoft doesnt do that? RROD is insecurity enough for microsoft

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#106 johny300
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Did this happen because of HALO reach?
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#107 Master_ShakeXXX
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Frankly I think it's Sony's loudmouth arrogance that makes them so unique. If they kept their mouth shut they wouldn't be the Sony we know and love. Kevin Butler is basically the human incarnation of Sony, and I think it's brilliant :lol:

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#108 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="bphan"]

http://play.tm/news/31889/sony-takes-jab-at-microsoft-says-360-is-reliant-on-shooters/

Sony keeps whining and taking shots at their competitors. Why can't they just focus on their own problems.

Blaze-Agent

Because sony's insecure about their own products so they have to bash other's to make it look good :)

wait microsoft doesnt do that? RROD is insecurity enough for microsoft

wait...did you just claim Microsoft is insecure about their products then instead of giving an example of this...you just go LOL RRoD?

@every one in thread saying its true.

*points to the fps, tactical fps...ect of all ps3 games* yeah its got all most as many games in it releases then the 360...seems to me the ps3 relies on fps games just as much...

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#109 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Typical Sony bashing claiming them to be arrogant while ignoring MS arrogance.

XboximusPrime

Trash talk is fine, but not from last place.

Theyre so close (MS and SONY)that really they can trash talk all they like legitematly. OF course, they cant really trash talk nintendo that much. I mean they could, but that would be kinda funny mor ethen anything.

Sony has trash talked Nintendo and when Nintendo responded in kind.... Well you remember how that turned out right?
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#110 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Please dont act like 360 fanboys dontcomplain about plenty of stuff themselves. All fanboys are the same in the end.

XboximusPrime

True but the limelight is on Sony and Cow this generation. You've been in SW long enough to notice these points are true.

Not saying you did this, but I do hate when people lump the fanboys and the fans into the same pool. Im a PS fan, im also a XBOX fan. And sometimes I feel I get lumped into the idiot pool of people that go around trolling posts and acting like fanboys. It seems like the ace in the hole for people who get disagreed with is to call the person a Fanboy.

Your an xbox fan? Going by lots of your subtle threads and responses Certainly fooled me
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#111 GGam3r
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Sony isn't wrong actually. Compare Microsoft at the start of this gen to Microsoft now and you notice that their first part lineup/exclusive isn't as varied. At the start, Microsoft put effort into getting games like Platformers and jRPGs but somewhere along the line they started focusing instead on exclusive DLC deals and Time Exclusive Multiplat.

AdmiralBison

You don't really see the xbox360 complain about it and they vote with their wallet obviously. Sony and it's fanboy alike are doing most of the complaining this generation.

The media is biased somewhat, yes media can be biased, though not ALL the time

Xbox360 had a year headstart. This is true, and this gave it a boost in sales thanks to a short-term next-gen monopoly kind of ordeal

Blame casuals for Wii success This is true, Wii is good but it makes most of it's money off of casuals

Only PS3 exclusives matter False, all exclusives matter, the PS3 just happens to be doing great in exclusives right now so it's being talked about

Americans only buy FPS, shooters and sports games and should play JRPGs those 3 genres are most popular in America, so it's half true but they don't have to play JRPG's

more Lazy developers Lazy developers = bad ports. What's hard to understand?

Complain about NPD results and revert to WW. NPD =/= worldwide sales so "ZOMG ekbawks outsold pee es tree by 33 trillion on NPD, it sells moar!" =/= truth (at least not overall sales).

MIcrosoft spends too much on marketing This is VERY true, especially with the kinect marketing and the halo reach marketing, they could have funded more IPs but instead used all the money on those two.

The power of the Cell Well it is a little more powerful than the 360s CPU so it makes sense

This generation doesn't start until we say it does That was Sony being cocky at the start of this gen, part of why they messed up at the start

PS3 will inspire more discipline Again, Sony being wrong and a tad cocky

Bash PC and keep talking up graphics king threads but if things don't work out hide behind the PC Graphics on PC > Consoles ALWAYS but PC isn't better than consoles.

Xbox360 holds back PS3 with DVDs, yet completely discount that PC also uses DVD Xbox 360 = install game but have to still put in disks to access the content each time, PC = install using multiple disks and only need to use the first disk to play after install.

Hhmmmmm...does that cover it so far?

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#112 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="AdmiralBison"] Trash talk is fine, but not from last place.

Arrogance is arrogance and MS isn't dominating enough to trash talk.

They're doing better then Sony.

Yeah but not enough to be able to trash talk. They should be called out on it like everyone has on Sony in this thread.
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#113 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="93soccer"] Because sony's insecure about their own products so they have to bash other's to make it look good :)WilliamRLBaker

wait microsoft doesnt do that? RROD is insecurity enough for microsoft

wait...did you just claim Microsoft is insecure about their products then instead of giving an example of this...you just go LOL RRoD?

@every one in thread saying its true.

*points to the fps, tactical fps...ect of all ps3 games* yeah its got all most as many games in it releases then the 360...seems to me the ps3 relies on fps games just as much...

2006-2008 i'd agree..now you can't deny that the ps3's library has more than just shooters

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#114 Sherjas24
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Halo:Reach had 200 million dollars in sales within 24 hours that would piss off any competitor.

GT5 is a popular game but it will not get sales like Halo and Killzone 3 will not either.

Microsoft exclusives are intended for the mainstream and they have alot more money than Sony.

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#115 Upparoom
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Loves how everyone in SW takes corporate people seriously. Nobody is emotionally hurt or whining, and trying to insult your competetion is pretty common.

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#116 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"] True but the limelight is on Sony and Cow this generation. You've been in SW long enough to notice these points are true.AdmiralBison

Not saying you did this, but I do hate when people lump the fanboys and the fans into the same pool. Im a PS fan, im also a XBOX fan. And sometimes I feel I get lumped into the idiot pool of people that go around trolling posts and acting like fanboys. It seems like the ace in the hole for people who get disagreed with is to call the person a Fanboy.

Your an xbox fan? Going by lots of your subtle threads and responses Certainly fooled me


I can be a fan of something and critcise it as well when its deserved.

The difference between a fan and a fanboy is a Fan has the mental capacity to compliment another console when they do well or play the other consoles great games if it appeals to them. However, they can still like the console they are a fan of more, but they need to be able to except when another console maybe does something better then what theirs does or be willing to give them props when they think they deserve it. However a Fanboy only thinks that his console is the best and that the other consoles cant do something their console does better. They will also not play any of the other consoles great games even if its a game genre that would appeal to them, however this isnt likely because a 360 fanboy isnt very likely to own a PS3 and vice versa.

I complain about things I think are wrong, inaccurate, or that I disagree with. When a Lemming makes a thread saying "The PS3 is Doomed" im going to jump in and say no it is not and that person is wrong. Partly because I am a fan of the console and partly because im a sane human being.

However, no one is immune to certain bias or fanboyish traits. I have been prone in the past to act a little this way, but thats only because we as humans really cannot be unbiased with things. We all have preferences wether we admit it or not. However, you need to have teh mental state to know when something else is good even if its not on your console. Like, I think Super Mario Galaxy is a well made game. Would I play it? No, because personaly I dont own a wii and I dont like 3-D Mario that much.

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#118 SaltyMeatballs
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Nothing wrong with shooters, but let's look at Sony this gen: KZ, Resistance, Uncharted, MAG, Socom.
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#119 XboximusPrime
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Nothing wrong with shooters, but let's look at Sony this gen: KZ, Resistance, Uncharted, MAG, Socom.SaltyMeatballs

Yeah, both console have alot of shooters. I think what their talking about is maybe that most of 360s Big selling or Big time Exclusives tend to be shooters, while PS3s top selling games and big time things tend to be a bit more spread out between genres. Also, 360 is considered the shooter box, but maybe not due to volume of games in taht catagory, but maybe because the controller is really good for Shooters.

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#120 Joseph-425
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Sony has the right to take shots at Microsoft, because Sony's created the most succesful system of all time the PS2.

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#121 tonitorsi
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="AdmiralBison"] Trash talk is fine, but not from last place.AdmiralBison
Arrogance is arrogance and MS isn't dominating enough to trash talk.

They're doing better then Sony.

Yes, while leaving its fanbase behind. This year Sony has kept its buyers completely happy with

God of War 3

The Last Rebellion

Gran Turismo 5

Atelieir Rorona

Heavy Rain: The Origami Killer

DC Universe Online

Hustle Kings

MLB 10: The Show

MAG

Trinity Universe

LittleBigPlanet2

3D Dot Heroes

Resonance Fate

Sly Cooper HD Collection

Yakuza 3

White Knight Chronicles

The Agency

Tales of Visperia

Modnation Racers

Where are the 360 exclussives?
Halo, halo, halo, halo dolls, Halo barbies, halo fried chicken and gears.

hmm? I thought so.

They dominated 1996 through 2006, and even then, they've released a plethora of exclussive games. Havesold 60 million handhelds and dons the most successfu lgaming console of all time that still sells even today.

Yeah, they can talk. :P

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#122 XboximusPrime
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Sony has the right to take shots at Microsoft, because Sony's created the most succesful system of all time the PS2.

Joseph-425

Yeah, and now their in third place. Past success's dont give you a free pass to do anything.

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#124 KaoSXFACTOR
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[QUOTE="Joseph-425"]

Sony has the right to take shots at Microsoft, because Sony's created the most succesful system of all time the PS2.

XboximusPrime

Yeah, and now their in third place. Past success's dont give you a free pass to do anything.

You're not in third place in a 3 man race. If you're third in a 3 man race, you're LAST.

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#125 Joseph-425
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[QUOTE="Joseph-425"]

Sony has the right to take shots at Microsoft, because Sony's created the most succesful system of all time the PS2.

XboximusPrime

Yeah, and now their in third place. Past success's dont give you a free pass to do anything.

Didn't Nintendo get a free pass when they were in third place?

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#126 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]

Please tell me how "We've never been reliant on one product genre like one of our competitors" translates to sony whinning

crusadernm

They are crying and whining cuz 360 gets so much of its sales from one genre. They are pretty much whining and being jealous and desperate.

No they aren't, you're just reading too much into it.
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#127 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="Joseph-425"]

Sony has the right to take shots at Microsoft, because Sony's created the most succesful system of all time the PS2.

Joseph-425

Yeah, and now their in third place. Past success's dont give you a free pass to do anything.

Didn't Nintendo get a free pass when they were in third place?

Free pass for what exactly?
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#128 Joseph-425
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[QUOTE="Joseph-425"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Yeah, and now their in third place. Past success's dont give you a free pass to do anything.

SaltyMeatballs

Didn't Nintendo get a free pass when they were in third place?

Free pass for what exactly?

Taking shots at other companies

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Sony has the right to take shots at Microsoft, because Sony's created the most succesful system of all time the PS2.

Joseph-425
That doesn't make much sense whatsoever.
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#130 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Joseph-425"]

Sony has the right to take shots at Microsoft, because Sony's created the most succesful system of all time the PS2.

moose_knuckler

That doesn't make much sense whatsoever.

how so? ps2 stil outsold the 360 last quarter WW. what you talking about?

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#131 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Joseph-425"]

Sony has the right to take shots at Microsoft, because Sony's created the most succesful system of all time the PS2.

Blaze-Agent

That doesn't make much sense whatsoever.

how so? ps2 stil outsold the 360 last quarter WW. what you talking about?

Really? You got a link for that because even in Japan 360 outsold the PS2 in Q1 and Q2... I smell BS.
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#132 nervmeister
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meh, it is true, but then again right now sony would like to be in Microsoft's shoes so go figureohthemanatee
Well I hope that never comes to pass. Though it may annoy them, I really enjoy the fact that Sony can't rely on just one or two IP's to rake in cash

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#133 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]That doesn't make much sense whatsoever. SaltyMeatballs

how so? ps2 stil outsold the 360 last quarter WW. what you talking about?

Really? You got a link for that because even in Japan 360 outsold the PS2 in Q1 and Q2... I smell BS.

On the PSP side, things are looking a bit differently as the handheld sale continue to decline from 1.3 million units last year to 1.2 million units this quarter, but interestingly however, software sales for the handheld jumped up to 9.2 million this quarter, as compared to 8.3 million last year. The PlayStation 2 hardware remained the same as last year with 1.6 million units but it's software dropped significantly, from 8.5 million units to 3.4 million.

http://www.qj.net/qjnet/news/sony-reveals-q1-fiscal-results-ps3-sales-double-psp-slightly-falls.html

Three months ended June 30, 2010 compared with three months ended June 30, 2009EDD revenue increased reflecting an increase in Xbox 360 platform and PC game revenue and increased revenue from the non-gaming portion of the business. Xbox 360 platform and PC game revenue increased $228 million or 30%, primarily reflecting increased Xbox 360 consoles sold and increased Xbox LIVE revenue, partially offset by decreased revenue per console. We shipped 1.5 million Xbox 360 consoles during the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2010, compared with 1.2 million Xbox 360 consoles during the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2009.

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY10/Q4/default.aspx

Thats a whole 100k difference WW for a 10 year old system.

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#134 SwagSurf
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[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

At least they don't always pull an aaron greenburg ;)

ohthemanatee

then again, it's not like Greenburh pulls a Kevin Buttler

lool i see where your going with this :P

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#135 Zaibach
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Nothing he said was untrue and yet he's really struck a few nerves with some posters here. Floppy_Jim
this man has not said anything untrue. However nothing gets SW in frenzy like a sony statement

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#136 Zaibach
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Halo - FPS

Blue Dragon - RPG

Lost Odyssey - RPG

Forza - Racing

Fable - Action RPG

Halo Wars - RTS

Gears - TPS

Banjo Kazooie - Platformer

Kameo - Platformer

Perfect Dark Zero - FPS

Crackdown 2 - Open world game

99 nights - Action

Too Human - Action RPG

Alan Wake - 3rd person horror

crusadernm

Despite gears, halo, forza that is a sorry sorry list of games

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#137 tempest91
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Translation: We really wish we could have a shooter that sells as well as Reach

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#138 ImaPirate0202
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Considering Halo is what literally saved the Xbox I won't say that's too far-fetched.

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#139 tempest91
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

Halo - FPS

Blue Dragon - RPG

Lost Odyssey - RPG

Forza - Racing

Fable - Action RPG

Halo Wars - RTS

Gears - TPS

Banjo Kazooie - Platformer

Kameo - Platformer

Perfect Dark Zero - FPS

Crackdown 2 - Open world game

99 nights - Action

Too Human - Action RPG

Alan Wake - 3rd person horror

Zaibach

Despite gears, halo, forza that is a sorry sorry list of games

Alan Wake, Banjo, and Kameo are not sorry games.

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#140 RadecSupreme
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Translation: We really wish we could have a shooter that sells as well as Reach

tempest91

Eww I would hate for my system to make a great selling shooter and then start focusing on casual games for the rest of the existence. Geeez, I am glad I dont support that company.:( Mine gives me free online play and a nonstop chain of fantastic exclusive games ranging from shooters to adventure and not sticking to one.:!:

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#141 UpJTBoogie
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Translation: We really wish we could have a shooter that sells as well as Reach

tempest91
Actually you don't know what they are thinking.
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#142 tempest91
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

Translation: We really wish we could have a shooter that sells as well as Reach

RadecSupreme

Eww I would hate for my system to make a great selling shooter and then start focusing on casual games for the rest of the existence. Geeez, I am glad I dont support that company.:( Mine gives me free online play and a nonstop chain of fantastic exclusive games ranging from shooters to adventure and not sticking to one.:!:

bad assumptions and exaggerations ftl.

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#143 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

Translation: We really wish we could have a shooter that sells as well as Reach

RadecSupreme

Eww I would hate for my system to make a great selling shooter and then start focusing on casual games for the rest of the existence. Geeez, I am glad I dont support that company.:( Mine gives me free online play and a nonstop chain of fantastic exclusive games ranging from shooters to adventure and not sticking to one.:!:

Sony would love a Halo, sorry to break it to you.
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#144 tempest91
Member since 2003 • 2411 Posts

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Translation: We really wish we could have a shooter that sells as well as Reach

UpJTBoogie

Actually you don't know what they are thinking.

Right, they haven't made any shooters labeled as "Halo killers" only to crash and burn every time.

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#145 UpJTBoogie
Member since 2010 • 152 Posts

[QUOTE="UpJTBoogie"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

Translation: We really wish we could have a shooter that sells as well as Reach

tempest91

Actually you don't know what they are thinking.

Right, they haven't made any shooters labeled as "Halo killers" only to crash and burn every time.

Sony themselves called those games Halo killers?
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#146 RadecSupreme
Member since 2009 • 4824 Posts

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

Translation: We really wish we could have a shooter that sells as well as Reach

SaltyMeatballs

Eww I would hate for my system to make a great selling shooter and then start focusing on casual games for the rest of the existence. Geeez, I am glad I dont support that company.:( Mine gives me free online play and a nonstop chain of fantastic exclusive games ranging from shooters to adventure and not sticking to one.:!:

Sony would love a Halo, sorry to break it to you.

That´s nice but I dont exactly care what they would love.

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#147 tempest91
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="UpJTBoogie"] Actually you don't know what they are thinking.UpJTBoogie

Right, they haven't made any shooters labeled as "Halo killers" only to crash and burn every time.

Sony themselves called those games Halo killers?

Did they really need to for you to see the obvious? I mean, I have a PS3 and some first party shooters for it, and I can very plainly see the attempts to mimic Halo's gameplay/success. It's not the worst thing in the world you know. Great games get imitated. .

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#148 ImaPirate0202
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[QUOTE="UpJTBoogie"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

Right, they haven't made any shooters labeled as "Halo killers" only to crash and burn every time.

tempest91

Sony themselves called those games Halo killers?

Did they really need to for you to see the obvious? I mean, I have a PS3 and some first party shooters for it, and I can very plainly see the attempts to mimic Halo's gameplay/success. It's not the worst thing in the world you know. Great games get imitated. .

Kiling Halo would be like trying to kill WoW. It's not happening anytime soon. Sony created those games to compete with Halo.

Fans/fakeboys labeled them, "Halo killers".

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#149 UpJTBoogie
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[QUOTE="UpJTBoogie"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

Right, they haven't made any shooters labeled as "Halo killers" only to crash and burn every time.

tempest91

Sony themselves called those games Halo killers?

Did they really need to for you to see the obvious? I mean, I have a PS3 and some first party shooters for it, and I can very plainly see the attempts to mimic Halo's gameplay/success. It's not the worst thing in the world you know. Great games get imitated. .

I don't think just making shooters mean they want to kill Halo.
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#150 bryn8150
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sounds like sour grapes because a certain ''shooter'' just made 200 million in one day for Microsoft.

Sony needs to look inward at themselves foR all the mis-steps they have made this gen and concentrate on getting out of last place instead of worrying about MS.

better luck next gen Sony.