Sony: The NGP Can't Make Phone Calls And It Can't Fit In Your Pockets

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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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... wut? :|

Why would you even say something like that?

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I understand how he is trying to establish a differentiated market for the NGP, but seriously, in the end, he's gonna be selling the Next Generation Portableto the handheld gamesmarket. Why would he possibly trumpet the fact that it won't fit in your pocket, or that it won't make phone calls, when it makes your product seem inferior to other portable game systemsin that case?

Seriously...

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If past is any indication, it will fly off the shelf like second coming.
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#3 kunggustaf
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Maybe he doesn't like cellphones? :?

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#4 Wanderer5
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Huh how big is it compare to the PSP?:?

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If past is any indication, it will fly off the shelf like second coming. funsohng

Lol'd. Hard.

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#6 Shirokishi_
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Not like it matters for me. I wear skinny jeans, theyd probably damage anything bigger than a GBA Micro.

I dont really play my handhelds "on the go" as much as I used to anyway so Im fine.

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#7 donalbane
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Maybe they are trying to deliniate the different market they are going for with their handheld... as though the iPhone isn't even in the same catagory, and therfore not a competetor. (When actually, it is a competetor... at least in my view.)
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#8 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Huh how big is it compare to the PSP?:?

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Well, I don't really know but the PSP was hard to fit in the pockets too...
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#9 funsohng
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Not like it matters for me. I wear skinny jeans, theyd probably damage anything bigger than a GBA Micro.

I dont really play my handhelds "on the go" as much as I used to anyway so Im fine.

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My iphone fits fine on my skinny.
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#10 Chris_Williams
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ughh, why would it need to make phone calls? thats what we have cell phones for, also saying i dont believe it can't fit in your pocket, the psp fat can fit in my pockets and this looks about the same size if smaller.

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Maybe they are trying to deliniate the different market they are going for with their handheld... as though the iPhone isn't even in the same catagory, and therfore not a competetor. (When actually, it is a competetor... at least in my view.)donalbane
But later on in the same article, he goes on to say that '$.99 mobile games are our biggest enemy.' It's like they have no cohesive vision for their product, an identity crisis, like the PSP all over again.
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#12 PSP107
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

Huh how big is it compare to the PSP?:?

Well, I don't really know but the PSP was hard to fit in the pockets too...

PSP 1000 fit in my pocket just fine. 3000 made it better because it was thinner.
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Huh how big is it compare to the PSP?:?

Wanderer5

Im not entirely sure but I think its 1/2 inch longer and wider than the PSP. A bit thinner though.

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#14 finalfantasy94
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Yea not a huge pluse when you say "hey that handheld cant fit in your pocket" unless they are talking about the people who wear tight jeans or something.

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#15 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

Huh how big is it compare to the PSP?:?

charizard1605

Well, I don't really know but the PSP was hard to fit in the pockets too...

Not really if you have cargo pants or something like that. Well this really won't be a big issue for anyway since I put my handhelds into my backpack or pouches these days.

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#16 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Not like it matters for me. I wear skinny jeans, theyd probably damage anything bigger than a GBA Micro.

I dont really play my handhelds "on the go" as much as I used to anyway so Im fine.

funsohng

My iphone fits fine on my skinny.

So did my iTouch but I always felt like if I didnt watch how I moved/sat Id be looking at a cracked screen.

Maybe Im just too paranoid but I still wont take the chance.

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#18 110million
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I keep my psp in my backpack with my laptop, I will do the same for the PSP2. I would honestly rather have a viable portable gaming experience than a squinting one.
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#19 deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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Because its NOT a cellphone NOR does it fit properly in your pocket?

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#21 Basinboy
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Glad it can't make calls, otherwise I'd have to pay AT&T or Verizon or whoever my other kidney for the feature. As for not fitting in the pocket, bs, it's hardly any bigger than the original PSP, it'll fit in mine with ease (though it'll be bulky, granted).

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#22 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Thanks, I think we'll need that!

So it's a fair bit longer than the 3DS, and it also has two protruding analog sticks. It definitely won't go in the pockets.

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#23 Jynxzor
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Whats your point Sony? I don't buy it to shove in my skinny jeans I buy a bulky case to protect it! Last thing I need is a contract to go with my handheld as well.
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#24 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

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Thanks, I think we'll need that!

So it's a fair bit longer than the 3DS, and it also has two protruding analog sticks. It definitely won't go in the pockets.

As long as its smaller than gamegear its good lol I dont even remember how I used to go out carrying it xD.

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#25 fueled-system
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That is not something I would be proud to admit...

I thought one of the main attractions of handhelds was the ability to take it anywhere... I dont want to hold around an expensive device everywhere I go...

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#26 DavidianMH
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What? Can't fit in my pocket? :o Sony is driving a hard sale here....
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#27 Ringx55
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Why would anybody want to make calls with a NGP? You have a cellphone for that. And tbh, I think saying it won't fit in pockets is very hard to say. A lot of different sizes not ot mention coats, bags, and hoodie pockets that fit almost anything.
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#28 DarkLink77
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I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Making a handheld that wants to be a console is a bad idea.

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I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Making a handheld that wants to be a console is a bad idea.

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So are we talking about the PSP, the 3DS or the NGP here? :P
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#31 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Whatever, as long as it's not as big as the original Gameboy. :P
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#32 finalfantasy94
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Whatever, as long as it's not as big as the original Gameboy. :PGuppy507

Yea basicly a brick with a screen and buttons.

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[QUOTE="Guppy507"]Whatever, as long as it's not as big as the original Gameboy. :Pfinalfantasy94

Yea basicly a brick with a screen and buttons.

Although it was bomb proof :P
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#34 emirblade
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What surprises me is that he sees the 3Ds as an upgraded DS, but the PS Vita look like an upgraded PSP :-/

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#35 SirDigby84
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Really don't care how big it is, if it has games i want and i buy it i'll do what i did with my gaming laptop. Stop being a wimp and just carry it, it's still an insignificant amount and it's not like i'm carrying something heavy that would inconvenience me.
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#36 finalfantasy94
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I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Making a handheld that wants to be a console is a bad idea.

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handhelds are going to keep evolving and start looking better. As long as theres not a flood of ports I dont see the negative of it.

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#37 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Making a handheld that wants to be a console is a bad idea.

charizard1605
So are we talking about the PSP, the 3DS or the NGP here? :P

The PSP and the NGP. The 3DS is still primarily a handheld.
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#38 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Making a handheld that wants to be a console is a bad idea.

DarkLink77
So are we talking about the PSP, the 3DS or the NGP here? :P

The PSP and the NGP. The 3DS is still primarily a handheld.

How? It's getting an awful lot of console ports...
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#39 110million
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What surprises me is that he sees the 3Ds as an upgraded DS, but the PS Vita look like an upgraded PSP :-/

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DS -> 3DS: They added: analog, 3D, better graphics, tilt, AR PSP -> NGP: They Added: dual analog, better graphics, tilt, AR, dual touch surfaces NGP's upgrades seem more significant in terms of what is new. For what I actually care for in games, the 3DS does not really add anything, the NGP having dual analogs will fix controls of entire genres, I'll be able to aim in an FPS without my hand taking up half the screen.
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#40 finalfantasy94
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What surprises me is that he sees the 3Ds as an upgraded DS, but the PS Vita look like an upgraded PSP :-/

emirblade

maybe the handheld after the 3ds will be uber different. I remember from gb to gba it wasint a huge difference just more power,better design and more buttons.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] So are we talking about the PSP, the 3DS or the NGP here? :P

The PSP and the NGP. The 3DS is still primarily a handheld.

How? It's getting an awful lot of console ports...

Yeah, from old systems. The GBA did, too. Big freakin' woop. The NGP looks like it's trying to be a console, just smaller. Hey, look, Uncharted and Killzone! You know, those games that are better on your PS3, but you can play them here, too, though God knows why you'd want to!
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Making a handheld that wants to be a console is a bad idea.

DarkLink77

So are we talking about the PSP, the 3DS or the NGP here? :P

The PSP and the NGP. The 3DS is still primarily a handheld.

im sorry no if your putting hte psp and ngp on that boat you have to put the 3ds too since its doing the same thing. SF4 anyone.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The PSP and the NGP. The 3DS is still primarily a handheld.

How? It's getting an awful lot of console ports...

Yeah, from old systems. The GBA did, too. Big freakin' woop. The NGP looks like it's trying to be a console, just smaller. Hey, look, Uncharted and Killzone! You know, those games that are better on your PS3, but you can play them here, too, though God knows why you'd want to!

Hmmmm, let's see how this turns out. Remember, I have a 3DS, and I'm rooting for it, but so far, I fear that it might turn out to be a repeat of the PSP...
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I think what he's trying to say is that NGP is a portable console, more like a portable gaming laptop than a mobile phone. It's designed to play PS3-level games, and designed to be bagged rather than pocketed.

If someone wants to pocket their handheld, make calls and play mobile phone-quality games, I figure he wants to point people in the direction of Xperia Play rather than NGP. That is, at least in theory, Sony's actual competitor for the iPhone in the mobile space.

I can't say for certain if I agree/disagree with their philosophy or approach, but I wouldn't say they don't have a cohesive vision. Sony is trying to segregate the two markets as much possible, because they have a product to fill both spaces (Apple and Nintendo don't) and they want to hammer home the difference in design philosophies between the NGP and its competitors. The NGP is portable, carryable wherever we want in a bag, but it isn't something they expect us to pocket wherever we go. If we want to pocket a gaming device wherever we go, they probably assume people will just use their smartphone.

In terms of pure convenience and portability, Sony has already yielded the market to the smartphone.

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#45 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The PSP and the NGP. The 3DS is still primarily a handheld.DarkLink77
How? It's getting an awful lot of console ports...

Yeah, from old systems. The GBA did, too. Big freakin' woop. The NGP looks like it's trying to be a console, just smaller. Hey, look, Uncharted and Killzone! You know, those games that are better on your PS3, but you can play them here, too, though God knows why you'd want to!

heres the thing they arent ports. So I cant play those games on my ps3 since those versions dont exist. Also from old systems? last time I checked ps3/360 are still current ala sf4.

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#46 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] So are we talking about the PSP, the 3DS or the NGP here? :Pfinalfantasy94

The PSP and the NGP. The 3DS is still primarily a handheld.

im sorry no if your putting hte psp and ngp on that boat you have to put the 3ds too since its doing the same thing. SF4 anyone.

The difference being that it's a Nintendo handheld, and the majority of it's best games will be games made by Nintendo that are designed to be played on a handheld. On the flip side, the best PSP games would have been better on a console.
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#47 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The PSP and the NGP. The 3DS is still primarily a handheld.DarkLink77

im sorry no if your putting hte psp and ngp on that boat you have to put the 3ds too since its doing the same thing. SF4 anyone.

The difference being that it's a Nintendo handheld, and the majority of it's best games will be games made by Nintendo that are designed to be played on a handheld. On the flip side, the best PSP games would have been better on a console.

You make no sense and sound extremely bias.

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#48 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

im sorry no if your putting hte psp and ngp on that boat you have to put the 3ds too since its doing the same thing. SF4 anyone.

finalfantasy94

The difference being that it's a Nintendo handheld, and the majority of it's best games will be games made by Nintendo that are designed to be played on a handheld. On the flip side, the best PSP games would have been better on a console.

You make no sense and sound extremely bias.

Okay, here's an example: Fire Emblem. Fire Emblem gains nothing by being on a console except graphics. The gameplay is the same, the controls are the same, and you can still play it in bite-sized chunks on the go based on how the game is set up. God of War: God of War gains a ton by being on a console. Better graphics and processing power (which is important because God of War is all about spectacle), a bigger screen, which makes a difference since you can see more stuff and God of War is designed to be played on a big screen, better controls (another set of shoulder buttons, etc), and the game is not designed to be played in portable bites, like Fire Emblem is. God of War gains literally nothing by being on a handheld, save for the fact that there's a God of War game on a handheld.
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#49 SaltyMeatballs
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Not gonna phone. Not gonna phit. :P NGP Lite will make phone calls.
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#50 dzimm
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If past is any indication, it will fly off the shelf like second coming.funsohng

Well, considering the PSP didn't exactly fly off the shelves at any point during its life...