Sony: The NGP Can't Make Phone Calls And It Can't Fit In Your Pockets

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The difference being that it's a Nintendo handheld, and the majority of it's best games will be games made by Nintendo that are designed to be played on a handheld. On the flip side, the best PSP games would have been better on a console.DarkLink77

You make no sense and sound extremely bias.

Yea execpt the GOW games work on the handheld and play well. You would ahve a point if it was a trainwreck of a game on a handheld. Thankfully thats not the issue here. The fact is if I want to nibble on GOW on the go I can now and it isint the same story or local its a difference experiance. Just when your done you flick stand by then put it on hold and bam your done.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

im sorry no if your putting hte psp and ngp on that boat you have to put the 3ds too since its doing the same thing. SF4 anyone.

finalfantasy94

You make no sense and sound extremely bias.

Nintendo has announced an impressive list of titles for the 3DS - Ocarina of Time, Mario Kart, Paper Mario, Star Fox, Super Mario (N64/Galaxy style), etc. but they are all clearly "console-style games".

And they'll still be great, regardless of the fact that they could've been done on Cafe or wherever (without the 3D, though), but yes both companies are making console-like games on their portable systems. That's just a fact.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]If past is any indication, it will fly off the shelf like second coming.dzimm

Well, considering the PSP didn't exactly fly off the shelves at any point during its life...

Well actually in japan it did. Just didint do as well here.

Doesn't matter to me...

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

You make no sense and sound extremely bias.

finalfantasy94

Yea execpt the GOW games work on the handheld and play well. You would ahve a point if it was a trainwreck of a game on a handheld. Thankfully thats not the issue here. The fact is if I want to nibble on GOW on the go I can now and it isint the same story or local its a difference experiance. Just when your done you flick stand by then put it on hold and bam your done.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Okay, here's an example: Fire Emblem. Fire Emblem gains nothing by being on a console except graphics. The gameplay is the same, the controls are the same, and you can still play it in bite-sized chunks on the go based on how the game is set up. God of War: God of War gains a ton by being on a console. Better graphics and processing power (which is important because God of War is all about spectacle), a bigger screen, which makes a difference since you can see more stuff and God of War is designed to be played on a big screen, better controls (another set of shoulder buttons, etc), and the game is not designed to be played in portable bites, like Fire Emblem is. God of War gains literally nothing by being on a handheld, save for the fact that there's a God of War game on a handheld.DarkLink77

Yea execpt the GOW games work on the handheld and play well. You would ahve a point if it was a trainwreck of a game on a handheld. Thankfully thats not the issue here. The fact is if I want to nibble on GOW on the go I can now and it isint the same story or local its a difference experiance. Just when your done you flick stand by then put it on hold and bam your done.

You could use that excuse for anything though. Its like "man x would sure look better on x" doesint make the point any more solid.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Yea execpt the GOW games work on the handheld and play well. You would ahve a point if it was a trainwreck of a game on a handheld. Thankfully thats not the issue here. The fact is if I want to nibble on GOW on the go I can now and it isint the same story or local its a difference experiance. Just when your done you flick stand by then put it on hold and bam your done.

finalfantasy94

You could use that excuse for anything though. Its like "man x would sure look better on x" doesint make the point any more solid.

Even though its a portable, not fitting into a pocket is not a big deal for me. I always stored my PSP in a sturdy case which added bulk and I always carried it in my bag. Never once did I put it naked into my pocket, same goes with my DS Lite.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Okay, here's an example: Fire Emblem. Fire Emblem gains nothing by being on a console except graphics. The gameplay is the same, the controls are the same, and you can still play it in bite-sized chunks on the go based on how the game is set up. God of War: God of War gains a ton by being on a console. Better graphics and processing power (which is important because God of War is all about spectacle), a bigger screen, which makes a difference since you can see more stuff and God of War is designed to be played on a big screen, better controls (another set of shoulder buttons, etc), and the game is not designed to be played in portable bites, like Fire Emblem is. God of War gains literally nothing by being on a handheld, save for the fact that there's a God of War game on a handheld.DarkLink77

Yea execpt the GOW games work on the handheld and play well. You would ahve a point if it was a trainwreck of a game on a handheld. Thankfully thats not the issue here. The fact is if I want to nibble on GOW on the go I can now and it isint the same story or local its a difference experiance. Just when your done you flick stand by then put it on hold and bam your done.

I don't really see what makes Fire Emblem any better to play on the go than God of War. GOW is a simple game to just boot up and waste some time killing monsters. Heck, that GOW-style gameplay is what made Hero of Sparta (Gameloft's GOW clone) on the iPhone a hit.

And if they add in a save-anywhere feature to GOW it would become, boom, instant mindless easy-to-pick-up fun on the go.

I do agree that playing GOW on a big, fullscreen TV is quite a sight to behold, and the PSP's control issues marred many game experiences. But both of those issues seem to have been addressed with the NGP: the screen is much bigger now, and the controls have all the main PS3 controller abilities plus new touchscreen abilities which could not be implemented on home consoles (until Project Cafe anyway, heh).

As an aside, the GOW games on PSP were slightly below PS2 quality in terms of graphics. Who's to say that Ready at Dawn had the type of resources necessary to make a spectacle on the level of God of War 3? The GOW games on PSP presented themselves, from the start, as spinoffs -- they likely could not have afforded the type of game development budget that a full retail God of War game on PS3 would have cost.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] But they would be significantly better on a console. That's the point. The only thing putting a current gen console-esque game on a handheld does is water it down.DarkLink77

You could use that excuse for anything though. Its like "man x would sure look better on x" doesint make the point any more solid.

The thing is something like chains didint feel like any less of a gow game then one of its ps2 brothers. It still felt big and epic even though being in a small handheld. The fact of the matter is it worked. Could it have looked better and been even a huger spectical on a higher powered system yea sure but any other game could to.

Why would I put a handheld system in my pocket...? That's why my wallet and iPhone goes... :?

As for making calls, that's what a phone does. When the battery life of multimedia devices like PSP's can improve with phone functionalities, I'll look into it.:)

Not a deal breaker,but kind of defeats the purpose of it being "portable" .

Not a deal breaker,but kind of defeats the purpose of it being "portable" .

stvee101

To be fair, it's not called the "Playstation Portable" anymore.:P It's all about the Playstation... Vita... ie: life.:|

[QUOTE="stvee101"]

Not a deal breaker,but kind of defeats the purpose of it being "portable" .

sanim02

To be fair, it's not called the "Playstation Portable" anymore.:P It's all about the Playstation... Vita... ie: life.:|

That name is just......:?

And like I said it isn't a deal breaker by any means,but it would be nice to be able to slip it back in your pocket after you got of the bus or train.

What I am upset about is that Sony didn't include a video output option for the NGP. It can output near-PS3 visuals, so why not let us choose what screen we get to play the game on?

Unlike the PSP's ugly video-out, the NGP's would actually look decent on our TVs.

What I am upset about is that Sony didn't include a video output option for the NGP. It can output near-PS3 visuals, so why not let us choose what screen we get to play the game on?

Unlike the PSP's ugly video-out, the NGP's would actually look decent on our TVs.

SakusEnvoy

I believe that feature is being saved for the NGP 2000.

Nope, my pockets are big enough, i wear cargo shorts 8)

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

Huh how big is it compare to the PSP?:?

charizard1605

And then you have the dual analog sticking out.

Meh, not making phone calls isn't a huge deal and not fiting in your pocket is kind of an issue but as I said the 3DS forum; I look at handhelds as just another console that is handheld, not necessarily portable or mobile and I normally play them more on my couch than on the go.

ughh, why would it need to make phone calls? thats what we have cell phones for, also saying i dont believe it can't fit in your pocket, the psp fat can fit in my pockets and this looks about the same size if smaller.

Chris_Williams

I have an iPhone, and.. I can totally understand what they're trying to convey. No matter how many apps or games my phone has/ can get, it will never be a gaming system, it will always be a phone. I won't ever have a true gaming experience on my iPhone, and it was the same when I had an HD7.

Another problem with using a phone for a gaming system is battery usage. Its primary use is as your phone, one thing you don't want to do is run the battery all the way down, so you aren't available to get ahold of and can't text or make calls. If an NGP dies, well... so what?

Phones =/= portable gaming.

I have an iPhone, and.. I can totally understand what they're trying to convey. No matter how many apps or games my phone has/ can get, it will never be a gaming system, it will always be a phone. I won't ever have a true gaming experience on my iPhone, and it was the same when I had an HD7.

Another problem with using a phone for a gaming system is battery usage. Its primary use is as your phone, one thing you don't want to do is run the battery all the way down, so you aren't available to get ahold of and can't text or make calls. If an NGP dies, well... so what?

Phones =/= portable gaming.

good_sk8er7

That seems like a strong argument most people forget to mention in the Phones/Portable Gaming debate.

Pretty sure they're were just taking the **** out of mobile gaming.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]If past is any indication, it will fly off the shelf like second coming.dzimm

Well, considering the PSP didn't exactly fly off the shelves at any point during its life...

Thats right because its a gaming device, not a lifestyle accessory.

The Atari Lynx whent a little OTT with the girth though.

Sony's arrogance is going to be the end of them one day...

Huh how big is it compare to the PSP?:?

Wanderer5

The NGP is 7.17" wide, 3.28" tall, and .73" thick

lol too bad for you skinny jean wearers

Just because it won't fit into your pocket doesn't make it any less portable people....

Just because it won't fit into your pocket doesn't make it any less portable people....

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Just because it won't fit into your pocket doesn't make it any less portable people....

The_Game21x

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Just because it won't fit into your pocket doesn't make it any less portable people....

yoshi_64

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Just because it won't fit into your pocket doesn't make it any less portable people....

The_Game21x

Just because it won't fit into your pocket doesn't make it any less portable people....

Chutebox

basicly this. Its not like im carrying my fiant ps3 around with wires. I also always have a backpack mainly cause when the summer comes I cant use my multy pocket coat and the stuff I always have with me makes my jeans fall.

Sony's arrogance is going to be the end of them one day...

RawDeal_basic

wouldint arrogant be them saying something like "its the best thing ever" and then making a 3ds jab.

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

Sony's arrogance is going to be the end of them one day...

finalfantasy94

wouldint arrogant be them saying something like "its the best thing ever" and then making a 3ds jab.

*cough*

"[Microsoft and Nintendo] are starting to run out of steam now in terms of continuing to be relevant in 2011 and beyond. I mean, you've gotta be kidding me. Why would I buy a gaming system without a hard drive in it? How does this thing scale? Motion gaming is cute, but if I can only wave my arms six inches, how does this really feel like I'm doing true accurate motion gaming? Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool, (but) no self-respecting 20-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that." - Jack Tretton

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Just because it won't fit into your pocket doesn't make it any less portable people....

Chutebox

Well, maybe you will be playing it so much that you would never want to put it in your pocket! Did you ever think of that, Charizard? And maybe, it will have enough battery life to support extended levels of gaming time, unlike a certain other rival handheld that I won't mention! ; D

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

Sony's arrogance is going to be the end of them one day...

DarkGamer007

wouldint arrogant be them saying something like "its the best thing ever" and then making a 3ds jab.

*cough*

"[Microsoft and Nintendo] are starting to run out of steam now in terms of continuing to be relevant in 2011 and beyond. I mean, you've gotta be kidding me. Why would I buy a gaming system without a hard drive in it? How does this thing scale? Motion gaming is cute, but if I can only wave my arms six inches, how does this really feel like I'm doing true accurate motion gaming? Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool, (but) no self-respecting 20-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that." - Jack Tretton

umm I knew they said arrogant things before. I was mainly talking about this topics artical. Since the guy mentioned arrogance in this topic yet nothing was said that would apply them being arrogant in this artical. So the comment was out of place.

Well, maybe you will be playing it so much that you would never want to put it in your pocket! Did you ever think of that, Charizard? And maybe, it will have enough battery life to support extended levels of gaming time, unlike a certain other rival handheld that I won't mention! ; D

Sky-

With 3G and the type of hardware rumored to be in the NGP I doubt it. :P

It is like an iPad, you take it where ever you go and it doesn't fit in your pocket but it is smaller, has better games and isn't used for business. I want one! :D

I knew this wasn't gonna go undetected .... very stupid thing to say ..... but for the record, the device is called portable when it's portable not because it can fit into ur pocket ...... I never thought of anyone who would do that anyway.