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#1 True_Gamer_
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This is a RULES Sticky on a VERY popular backup burning media forum:


So its a FACT...piracy CAN BE KILLED....I cannot believe that for 3 YEARS pirates just didnt want to crack the ps3 out of their good heart....Sony won the piracy....

I can see BR finally showing its muscle...

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#2 MightyMuna
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price. when it becomes cheap, it will be pirated to hell and back. Blu-ray is still expensive for pirates.
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#3 True_Gamer_
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price. when it becomes cheap, it will be pirated to hell and back. Blu-ray is still expensive for pirates.MightyMuna
So its expensive to crack the machine? Its expensive to make it play a single copied BR game? Are you serious?
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#4 Lionheart08
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...how exactly did you run across this type of forum? Doing some illegal business? :P

In all seriousness, good for Sony. I guess the PS3 counterbalances the PSP.:lol:

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#5 navyguy21
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This is a RULES Sticky on a VERY popular backup burning media forum

So its a FACT...piracy CAN BE KILLED....I cannot believe that for 3 YEARS pirates just didnt want to crack the ps3 out of their good heart....Sony won the piracy....

I can see BR finally showing its muscle...

True_Gamer_

not you and these "sony killed piracy" threads again. Maybe, just maybe, pirates dont think PS3 games are worth the trouble?? i mean, judging by game sales, even PS3 owners dont really buy the games anyway. But Blu-ray movies are still being pirated!!! What does that say about the PS3's games?? In fact, pirates are hacking blu-ray, removing the movie, and re-burning them on DVD's because it is cheaper lol, so im pretty sure its because the discs are expensive.

http://www.malwarecity.com/news/chinese-pirates-crack-blu-ray-drm-sell-pirated-hd-discs-273.html

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/16038.cfm

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#6 FirstDiscovery
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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]price. when it becomes cheap, it will be pirated to hell and back. Blu-ray is still expensive for pirates.True_Gamer_
So its expensive to crack the machine? Its expensive to make it play a single copied BR game? Are you serious?

I still dont get it, PS3 is a hackers dream, the darn thing lets you use you put files onto it at your leisure whereas on other systems people have to look for the most obscurest of glitches to do that! Still, its going to happen EVENTUALLY, and its going to run rampant when it does given the open-ended nature of the console (a la PSP)
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]price. when it becomes cheap, it will be pirated to hell and back. Blu-ray is still expensive for pirates.FirstDiscovery
So its expensive to crack the machine? Its expensive to make it play a single copied BR game? Are you serious?

I still dont get it, PS3 is a hackers dream, the darn thing lets you use you put files onto it at your leisure whereas on other systems people have to look for the most obscurest of glitches to do that! Still, its going to happen EVENTUALLY, and its going to run rampant when it does given the open-ended nature of the console (a la PSP)

The System is like a fruit waiting to be picked, Serioulsy but i have to give sony credit for making a Tough Machine to crack.
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#8 -Divinity-
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Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

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#9 killerfist
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Give it a few years.
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#10 yoshi_64
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I would say that Sony is indeed going to be happy about this, sure. But Blu-Ray drives are quite expensive still, so I don't think anyone's really willing to spend the money yet to try and crack a Blu-Ray player, when it would be a small minority for people to play against. I don't care though, piracy is bad, and if this can remain for a very long time for Sony, kudos! I hate piracy too.
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#11 shakmaster13
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i think thats what sony was aiming for with this whole bluray thing. trying to create a platform that would be harder to pirate not only because of its price, but also the amount of uncompressed data that would have to be downloaded.
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#12 InfinityMugen
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I dont think hacking the PS3 is even worth it atm. The majority of the Library are multiplats which are available on other platforms. The console is also in thrid place and piracy would just kill it off in terms of software sales but SKU's would see a jump.
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awww reminds me of the gmaecube days. it remianed unhacked till a few years into its cycle.
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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]price. when it becomes cheap, it will be pirated to hell and back. Blu-ray is still expensive for pirates.True_Gamer_
So its expensive to crack the machine? Its expensive to make it play a single copied BR game? Are you serious?

actually, yes...blank BR media is still like $20/disc. and very few people have BD writers. the combination results in a lack of interest all around.
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#15 Master-Thief-09
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Haven't they ripped games yet? No one can play backups yet though, keyword, yet. We all know it will happen sooner or later.
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#16 Gta3-fan334
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The PS3 doesn't see much piracy, for the same reasons Macs don't get many viruses. ;)
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#17 z4twenny
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the games have been ripped, just not made playable. personally i think it's pretty awesome that they've remained unhackable this long. as for the people saying "its because nobody cares about the ps3" this is absolutely false. a hackers pride lies in hacking something first
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Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-

I'd second that, pirated games are the only viable form of playing games from where i came from, unless you're willing to fork out high prices for genuine copies.The only reason the PS3 sells here is nothing but brand loyalty, until they find out that there's no cheap pirated games available for it unlike the PS2, they all share the same mindset, why pay twenty-times the price for the same game that you can get for less than US $5?

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[QUOTE="wdave92"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]I still dont get it, PS3 is a hackers dream, the darn thing lets you use you put files onto it at your leisure whereas on other systems people have to look for the most obscurest of glitches to do that! Still, its going to happen EVENTUALLY, and its going to run rampant when it does given the open-ended nature of the console (a la PSP)

The System is like a fruit waiting to be picked, Serioulsy but i have to give sony credit for making a Tough Machine to crack.

Yeah exactly, i just dont get how theyve been able to protect it so well

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-
Not really, they sell a machine at a loss, everytime they do and no software is bought it causes Sony to make a loss Hence why i remember some crazy Lemming urging people to go out and buy PS3s... and then not to buy any software for it to ruin Sony
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#20 FirstDiscovery
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]price. when it becomes cheap, it will be pirated to hell and back. Blu-ray is still expensive for pirates.Fire-of-Njozi
So its expensive to crack the machine? Its expensive to make it play a single copied BR game? Are you serious?

actually, yes...blank BR media is still like $20/disc. and very few people have BD writers. the combination results in a lack of interest all around.

No the problem is that it hasnt even been cracked to let you play backups yet...:?
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#21 Verge_6
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Were you the head of some smalltime software developer that went under due to piracy, because this is all you ever talk about. Ever.
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#22 Cali3350
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Most of the big time hacker circles are still focuesed on Xbox 360 Homebrew (which doesnt exist yet either). Once THAT is done youll see the PS3 cracked quickly.
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#23 dotWithShoes
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The PS3 doesn't see much piracy, for the same reasons Macs don't get many viruses. ;)Gta3-fan334
but they can :) and do.
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#24 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="wdave92"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"] The System is like a fruit waiting to be picked, Serioulsy but i have to give sony credit for making a Tough Machine to crack.FirstDiscovery
Yeah exactly, i just dont get how theyve been able to protect it so well

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-

Not really, they sell a machine at a loss, everytime they do and no software is bought it causes Sony to make a loss Hence why i remember some crazy Lemming urging people to go out and buy PS3s... and then not to buy any software for it to ruin Sony

Thats the point...

Xbox360 was cracked within 3 months from launch....

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Despite the piracy, big multiplats are still selling better by millions on 360 (GTA IV, Madden NFL, etc.),
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#26 dr_octagon
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[QUOTE="Gta3-fan334"]The PS3 doesn't see much piracy, for the same reasons Macs don't get many viruses. ;)dotWithShoes
but they can :) and do.

The only time that would ever happen is if some n00b was running Vista/XP on their Intel Mac.

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#27 Hexagon_777
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So the Xbox 360 and the Wii have been selling more software than the PlayStation 3, despite suffering from piracy, while the PlayStation 3 is safe from it?
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#28 DisPimpin
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In due time.
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Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-

I gree with your post but on the other hand piracy didnt halp Dreamcast. I was the easyest system to pirate considering everything you needed was a boot disc

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#30 EndorphinMaster
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so apparently pirates don't find the PS3 to be worth the time
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#32 Ontain
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there are bluray movie rips online. the format is already cracked. but for games it would be worth it if the blank blurays didn't cost almost as much as a used game.
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#33 True_Gamer_
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there are bluray movie rips online. the format is already cracked. but for games it would be worth it if the blank blurays didn't cost almost as much as a used game.Ontain
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130011 thank you for owning yourself....oh and i cannot imagine how old and crappy a used PS3 game should be to cost 8$....
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#34 clone01
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

Xbox360 was cracked within 3 months from launch....

sure...DVD 9 is an older, more familiar format. all it takes is time. BR will be pirated, it just takes a while.
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#35 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

Xbox360 was cracked within 3 months from launch....

sure...DVD 9 is an older, more familiar format. all it takes is time. BR will be pirated, it just takes a while.

we are well in the 3rd year of ps3's life...3 years vs 3 months...
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#36 kemar7856
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I seen people download backups to the ps3 on the old firmwares but it might be close with cfw and blu ray burners
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#37 tek91
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Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-

pyracy also leads to low sales in games look what it's doing to the PC

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#38 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="-Divinity-"]

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

tek91

pyracy also leads to low sales in games look what it's doing to the PC

i would better ask valve about that...
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#39 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

Xbox360 was cracked within 3 months from launch....

True_Gamer_
sure...DVD 9 is an older, more familiar format. all it takes is time. BR will be pirated, it just takes a while.

we are well in the 3rd year of ps3's life...3 years vs 3 months...

true. but how long has BR been around compared to DVD?
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#40 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

lol at all teh lemmings in denial, no ps3 piracy has nothing to do with no interest, or nothing worthwhile to pirate, or whatever BS excuse you want to fool yourself into thinking is true, since it came out theve tried and tried to hack it, even now there still trying to hack it, they simply cant do it yet, has nothing to do with a lack of interest.

if anything the ps3 would be even more interesting to hackers, since it would be a homebrewers paradise with its easily upgradable HDD, which would be pure gold for running games off the HDD, and BR being expensive isnt much of an excuse either, since theres been no success loading games off the HDD

So what is it then?? Software sales are ALWAYS behind the 360 and Wii despite piracy, and Bluray MOVIES are being pirated and they use the same discs, same encryption. So why arent PS3 software sales higher?? I mean people have no choice but to buy the legit version right?? Or why do the bluray movie hackers NOT pirate the games?? regardless of what you and i think, FACT is, bluray encryption has been broken, bluray MOVIES are being pirated, and the GAMES are not. what could that be besides lack of interest?? I own a PS3 too, but im not blind to the facts. Try to be an informed gamer, not a blind fanboy (not calling you one, im just saying :P )
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#41 Faulttt
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All i hear is: Piracy is a good thing? lol, lems at it again. All the TC is saying is PS3 is pretty good with fighting against priacy, and its winning :D but wow, 3 months Vs 3 Years, pretty pathetic if you ask me. And WHY aree lems in here with sales?
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#42 Leo-Magic
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I truly believe you really dont know anything about piracy.
The Piracy ONLY choice the one who has THE MOST install base in the market.
If PS3 beat xbox 360 and come up on top, it will happen sooner than you can imagine.
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It is just not worth it for pirates. The disc are expensive, the games take up loads of hdd space, the burner is expensive and slow, not to mention more people have 360s. It is plain and simple easy and cheaper to do it on 360.. which is why they ignore the ps3.
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#44 Faulttt
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I truly believe you really dont know anything about piracy.
The Piracy ONLY choice the one who has THE MOST install base in the market.
If PS3 beat xbox 360 and come up on top, it will happen sooner than you can imagine. Leo-Magic
Yep, okay Piracy is a good move for sony i was wrong /sarcasm
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#45 True_Gamer_
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It is just not worth it for pirates. The disc are expensive, the games take up loads of hdd space, the burner is expensive and slow, not to mention more people have 360s. It is plain and simple easy and cheaper to do it on 360.. which is why they ignore the ps3.Espada12
Ive just owned another lemming for posting untruths.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130011 PS3 games cost $60...hmm $60vs$8....
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]It is just not worth it for pirates. The disc are expensive, the games take up loads of hdd space, the burner is expensive and slow, not to mention more people have 360s. It is plain and simple easy and cheaper to do it on 360.. which is why they ignore the ps3.True_Gamer_
Ive just owned another lemming for posting untruths.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130011 PS3 games cost $60...hmm $60vs$8....

How has this owned me? What have I said that isn't true? The cost of a ps3 is more than a 360, the cost of a dual layer blank is more than blu-ray disc, a dual layer burner is loads cheaper than a blu-ray burner and games compressed to fit on dual layer discs are smaller than those on blu-ray. How have you *owned* me?

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#47 one_on_one
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So since Sony are keeping piracy away, shouldn't that mean their game sales should be better especially when the competitions are very hackable?
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#48 Fire-of-Njozi
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="Fire-of-Njozi"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] So its expensive to crack the machine? Its expensive to make it play a single copied BR game? Are you serious?

actually, yes...blank BR media is still like $20/disc. and very few people have BD writers. the combination results in a lack of interest all around.

No the problem is that it hasnt even been cracked to let you play backups yet...:?

even if they had been cracked, the cost per blank disc along with the cost of a writer makes the solution cost-inhibitive anyway.
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#49 clone01
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]It is just not worth it for pirates. The disc are expensive, the games take up loads of hdd space, the burner is expensive and slow, not to mention more people have 360s. It is plain and simple easy and cheaper to do it on 360.. which is why they ignore the ps3.True_Gamer_
Ive just owned another lemming for posting untruths.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130011 PS3 games cost $60...hmm $60vs$8....

so one Blu Ray is $8. a 200 pack of DVDR is $62: http://www.cdrdvdrmedia.com/. so 200 Blu-Ray discs would be $1600. not to mention that a Blu Ray burner runs about $200, and you can get a DVD burner for about $39. i would say its still vastly cheaper, if one were so inclined, to pirate on the PC or 360.
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#50 Fire-of-Njozi
Member since 2009 • 468 Posts

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Espada12"]It is just not worth it for pirates. The disc are expensive, the games take up loads of hdd space, the burner is expensive and slow, not to mention more people have 360s. It is plain and simple easy and cheaper to do it on 360.. which is why they ignore the ps3.Espada12

Ive just owned another lemming for posting untruths.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130011 PS3 games cost $60...hmm $60vs$8....

How has this owned me? What have I said that isn't true? The cost of a ps3 is more than a 360, the cost of a dual layer blank is more than blu-ray disc, a dual layer burner is loads cheaper than a blu-ray burner and games compressed to fit on dual layer discs are smaller than those on blu-ray. How have you *owned* me?

totally agree with you (for a change). even if game hacking existed, it would still be fairly cost-prohibitive, as people would have to shell out hundreds more for the necessary hardware and media. it'd be a very small community until prices come down.