Sony VICTOR....PS3 piracy remains dead....

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Espada12"]It is just not worth it for pirates. The disc are expensive, the games take up loads of hdd space, the burner is expensive and slow, not to mention more people have 360s. It is plain and simple easy and cheaper to do it on 360.. which is why they ignore the ps3.clone01

PS3 anti-piracy benefits from an expensive format and lack of worthwhile games.

I don't know if thats really a good thing.

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] Ive just owned another lemming for posting untruths.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130011 PS3 games cost $60...hmm $60vs$8....True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="clone01"] so one Blu Ray is $8. a 200 pack of DVDR is $62: http://www.cdrdvdrmedia.com/. so 200 Blu-Ray discs would be $1600. not to mention that a Blu Ray burner runs about $200, and you can get a DVD burner for about $39. i would say its still vastly cheaper, if one were so inclined, to pirate on the PC or 360.clone01

RROD is a HUGE factor that keeps people "honest" with the 360....with PS3 being tough as it is it makes a much less risky ploy to crack it in the long run... Plus you ignore a huge parameter of the pirate scene: CHALLENGE I doubt that they dont want to be the first to hack the "unbreakable" fortress thats PS3.....True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

lol at all teh lemmings in denial, no ps3 piracy has nothing to do with no interest, or nothing worthwhile to pirate, or whatever BS excuse you want to fool yourself into thinking is true, since it came out theve tried and tried to hack it, even now there still trying to hack it, they simply cant do it yet, has nothing to do with a lack of interest.

if anything the ps3 would be even more interesting to hackers, since it would be a homebrewers paradise with its easily upgradable HDD, which would be pure gold for running games off the HDD, and BR being expensive isnt much of an excuse either, since theres been no success loading games off the HDD

navyguy21

that can be attributed to the userbase... the ps3 has sold the least amount of hardware units, therefore it is not surprising that it has sold the least amount of software.

It's a simple cost vs reward scenario. The cost to get all the equipment required to play, and create pirated ps3 games really makes it to expensive.

When the system, and related blu-ray burner / bank media all become cheaper you will see a bigger interest in pirating the games.

The only way Sony can keep piracy at bay is by keeping prices high. If they do that, then they risk their format and machine dieing off.

[QUOTE="-Divinity-"]

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

tek91

pyracy also leads to low sales in games look what it's doing to the PC

lol that doesnt seem to be a problem with the 360.

Youd think PS3 software sales are the result of piracy since they are so low.

ZING!

I find it sad that fanboys are actually trying to claim ownage over this. The fact that PS3 games remain unpirated can only mean that pirates don't find it worthwhile to pirate PS3 games, since Bluray discs have already been pirated for a long time nowEndorphinMaster

people obviously don't know the principles behind piracy and hacking systems. you don't do it because "theres more 360's than ps3's" you do it for bragging rights, end of story, the installed user base is null and void. you do it so you can brag and say "i was the first person to crack this system" and the more days that go by before it gets cracked, the bigger the bragging rights. its not that hackers dont want to, trust me when i say i know some people and they're definitely trying, but the constant firmware updates always "close gaps" so to speak that could be used. waaaaaaaaaay back in the initial life of the ps3 there was a hack for it VERY briefly, but a firmware update fixed that. ever since then i think sony has been actively trying to figure out the hacks internally and fixing them before they can be exploited.

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]I find it sad that fanboys are actually trying to claim ownage over this. The fact that PS3 games remain unpirated can only mean that pirates don't find it worthwhile to pirate PS3 games, since Bluray discs have already been pirated for a long time nowz4twenny

people obviously don't know the principles behind piracy and hacking systems. you don't do it because "theres more 360's than ps3's" you do it for bragging rights, end of story, the installed user base is null and void. you do it so you can brag and say "i was the first person to crack this system" and the more days that go by before it gets cracked, the bigger the bragging rights. its not that hackers dont want to, trust me when i say i know some people and they're definitely trying, but the constant firmware updates always "close gaps" so to speak that could be used. waaaaaaaaaay back in the initial life of the ps3 there was a hack for it VERY briefly, but a firmware update fixed that. ever since then i think sony has been actively trying to figure out the hacks internally and fixing them before they can be exploited.

thats exactly the point...anyone that believes that they dont hack the ps3 out of sheer kindness of their hearts is naive at best...True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] thats exactly the point...anyone that believes that they dont hack the ps3 out of sheer kindness of their hearts is naive at best...clone01

the hackers who actually do the initial hacks don't generally do it for profit. someone might take and make a profit off of it afterwards, but it's not the guy who cracked the system. i've said this several times now.

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-

That's too true , if you buy an original copy of a ps2 game here in south america you are considered rich , let alone those who can afford a ps3 and many games like me.

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] thats exactly the point...anyone that believes that they dont hack the ps3 out of sheer kindness of their hearts is naive at best...z4twenny

the hackers who actually do the initial hacks don't generally do it for profit. someone might take and make a profit off of it afterwards, but it's not the guy who cracked the system. i've said this several times now.

Why would they spend time trying to piracy blu ray movies or games when they majority of those still come out on DVD9? your infatuation with blu ray is just weird Dante2710

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] so you're saying that people do not pirate software/music/movies for profit?clone01

the hackers who actually do the initial hacks don't generally do it for profit. someone might take and make a profit off of it afterwards, but it's not the guy who cracked the system. i've said this several times now.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]Why would they spend time trying to piracy blu ray movies or games when they majority of those still come out on DVD9? your infatuation with blu ray is just weird clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="z4twenny"]

the hackers who actually do the initial hacks don't generally do it for profit. someone might take and make a profit off of it afterwards, but it's not the guy who cracked the system. i've said this several times now.

True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="clone01"] which i do agree with. however, the TC had implied in previous posts that it was economically viable to hack the PS3, while many here contested that it was not.clone01

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-

Still with that many Xbox 360's, the rate of games attachment is what 7 games to every console, impressive.

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-

But sony doesn't make money off of their hardware so thats pointless.Selling more consoles only helps sony if the userbase buys more games, which sony profits from. If they don't buyg ames then sony just loses money.

[QUOTE="-Divinity-"]

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

Rockman999

you dont spin when your not in last place.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="-Divinity-"]

Sony loss.

Piracy leads to hardware surges, especially in 3rd world gaming markets like non-japan asia, middle east, and south africa, even south america.

Surprise surprise, 360 vastly outsells PS3 in the above territories cause they pirate the games very easily.

-Divinity-

you dont spin when your not in last place.

Good, now about that PSP...ahmedkandil

[QUOTE="ahmedkandil"]Good, now about that PSP...siLVURcross

The PS3 doesn't see much piracy, for the same reasons Macs don't get many viruses. ;)Gta3-fan334

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]price. when it becomes cheap, it will be pirated to hell and back. Blu-ray is still expensive for pirates.FirstDiscovery

So the Xbox 360 and the Wii have been selling more software than the PlayStation 3, despite suffering from piracy, while the PlayStation 3 is safe from it?Hexagon_777

finally we agree....sony's choice of Blu Ray has shown a benefit of an unknown format....eventually they will crack it (of course we have been saying this for over 2 years :) ) but every day that passes works in Sony's favor.... I mean if I was R* or any other dev that their game is craved for I would make the game exclusive to PS3 and then look at pirates faces as they all line up with their wallets wide open....and most importantly in pirate dominated areas like easter Europe and Asia....True_Gamer_

Remains dead doesnt mean stay dead.. you know what always happens eventually.

bluray burners are dropping in price and becoming affordable, the only problems for the pirates is the size of the games and price on bluray disks.. just not worth it

i would suspect wii/360 have alot of pirates (at a guess)
perfect_chao

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]price. when it becomes cheap, it will be pirated to hell and back. Blu-ray is still expensive for pirates.True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]So the Xbox 360 and the Wii have been selling more software than the PlayStation 3, despite suffering from piracy, while the PlayStation 3 is safe from it?Vanadium2k8

That truly is sad and worrying. No piracy on the PlayStation 3, but it still manages to sell less software and have lower attach rates.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]price. when it becomes cheap, it will be pirated to hell and back. Blu-ray is still expensive for pirates.Eddie5vs1