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#101  Edited By Murderstyle75
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@xhawk27: Not really sure I consider walking to be a game, let alone a GOTY. But when you don't have a development budget, that's all you can really do.

Now what do you think had more walking in it? Journey? Or The Lord of the Rings trilogy?

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#102 good_sk8er7
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Sony's published new IPs on PS3 (only including retail and games that are good [IMO]) :

Resistance

Folkore

Heavenly Sword

Motorstorm

Uncharted

Warhawk

LittleBigPlanet

Demon's Souls

Infamous

Heavy Rain

White Knight Chronicles

Starhawk

Beyond: Two Souls

The Last of Us

Puppeteer

It's really hard to dispute that they create the most new IP's

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#103 Heil68
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Thank you Sony for having the backs of gamers everywhere! Down with Microsoft!

By gamers for gamers the SONY way. We are humbled SONY.

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#104 PsychoLemons
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But I find their newer IPs lacking identity.

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#105  Edited By sailor232
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Yeah Sony make some great IP's, if they continue to do that this gen, beyond what we have seen, then I will have to buy a ps4.

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#106 Couth_
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@mems_1224 said:

Doesn't change the fact that MS introduced some good new IPs last gen

Gears

Mass Effect

Viva Pinata

Shadow Complex

Fez

Alan Wake

Toy Soldiers

Splosion Man

Orcs Must Die

Dust

Mark of the Ninja

All published by Microsoft. Just because they aren't all exclusive doesn't mean that MS isn't bringing great games.

Microsoft used to be a lot more ambitious with new IPs but they have changed focus and Sony is definitely the most committed and supportive of new IPs right now. Have to wonder if 343 would be able to come up with something great if they weren't forced to carry on Halo. They have very talented coders

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#107 joel_c17
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Lol look at the butt hurt in this thread! its amazing!

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#108 BattleSpectre
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I don't believe what comes out of anyone's mouth that works with MS, Sony. Let your games do the talking.

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#109 trugs26
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@Heil68 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Thank you Sony for having the backs of gamers everywhere! Down with Microsoft!

By gamers for gamers the SONY way. We are humbled SONY.

Does anyone hear a sucking sound?

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#110 mems_1224
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@xhawk27 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@mems_1224 said:

@Murderstyle75 said:

@mems_1224:

That's a cop-out and those games are only there because Microsoft is too cheap to fund AAA game development. They would rather spend their money making retro clone mini-games and locking down 1 month early COD content. I bet those checks written to Activision alone could have funded a retail AAA exclusive.

good games are good games

Good AAA game >>>> good indie game. IMO.

So agree that Journey shouldn't have gotten GOTY last year?

owned

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#111  Edited By mems_1224
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@renegade311 said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

I like Suckerpunch way more than I like Naughty Dog.

This is why Sony first party is great. They make something for every one.

Nintendo does it better.

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#112 StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@renegade311 said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

I like Suckerpunch way more than I like Naughty Dog.

This is why Sony first party is great. They make something for every one.

Nintendo does it better.

There was nothing exclusive on Wii (or Wii U) that I wanted to play. Gears Of War looked great for 360. Glad Mass Effect went multiplat.

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#113  Edited By mems_1224
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@mems_1224 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@renegade311 said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

I like Suckerpunch way more than I like Naughty Dog.

This is why Sony first party is great. They make something for every one.

Nintendo does it better.

There was nothing exclusive on Wii (or Wii U) that I wanted to play. Gears Of War looked great for 360. Glad Mass Effect went multiplat.

you have shit taste in games though.

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#114  Edited By clr84651
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The games will take some time to come. I have a feeling when they do start, there will be plenty.

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#115 ristactionjakso
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@DarkLink77 said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

Eh. SSM does a good job. And Demon's Souls was pretty good.

But yes, aside from those, their studios are largely unimpressive.

Ni No Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, God of War series, LBP 2, InFamous 1 and 2, Tales of Xillia and Twisted Metal all unimpressive games? I say nay.

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#116  Edited By Murderstyle75
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@mems_1224:

How is he owned? Journey is not a game. Its walking.

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#117  Edited By ActicEdge
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Most of the time they aren't very good tbh.

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#118 speedfreak48t5p
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@trugs26 said:

@Heil68 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Thank you Sony for having the backs of gamers everywhere! Down with Microsoft!

By gamers for gamers the SONY way. We are humbled SONY.

Does anyone hear a sucking sound?

Microsoft sucking the money out of the wallets of gamers everywhere. That's the sound you're hearing.

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#119 trugs26
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

@trugs26 said:

@Heil68 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Thank you Sony for having the backs of gamers everywhere! Down with Microsoft!

By gamers for gamers the SONY way. We are humbled SONY.

Does anyone hear a sucking sound?

Microsoft sucking the money out of the wallets of gamers everywhere. That's the sound you're hearing.

No not that. It's not like a vacuum sound. It's another sound, I can't quite put my finger on it. But it's very loud.

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#120 ActicEdge
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@ristactionjakso said:

@DarkLink77 said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

Eh. SSM does a good job. And Demon's Souls was pretty good.

But yes, aside from those, their studios are largely unimpressive.

Ni No Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, God of War series, LBP 2, InFamous 1 and 2, Tales of Xillia and Twisted Metal all unimpressive games? I say nay.

Ni No Kuni is Level 5. Valkyria Chronicles is Sega. Tales of Xillia is Namco. Do people not even know what Sony actually produces?

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#121  Edited By Evo_nine
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too bad all of those new ip's are indie shit.

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#122 mems_1224
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@Murderstyle75 said:

@mems_1224:

How is he owned? Journey is not a game. Its walking.

ball dont lie

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#123 bbkkristian
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@ActicEdge: ...apparently not. Lol

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#124 Jipset
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God bless Sony for creating a lot of original gaming content instead of relying on timed-exclusive Call of Duty map packs and play-and-charge-kits.

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#125  Edited By ActicEdge
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@bbkkristian said:

@ActicEdge: ...apparently not. Lol

Oh well, let em dream. Without dreams, life is a bore lol

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#126 mems_1224
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@Jipset said:

God bless Sony for creating a lot of original gaming content instead of relying on timed-exclusive Call of Duty map packs and play-and-charge-kits.

lol

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#127 StrongDeadlift
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@hiphops_savior said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Isn't this just stating the obvious?

xbox is just halogearsforza. Nintendo has a hard on for a plummer and an androgynous Elf boy.

Says alot about the fanbases for each system tbh.

And Sony wishes they have something that they can milk.

There is a reason why Mario and Link survived for so long while their contemporaries flaked out.

/discussion.

Sony in its entire history in the console war has NEVER really had a first party IP with the quality, marketability, and the staying power to be as relevant as Mario, Zelda, MasterChief, etc.

With the exception of Grand Turismo, and Crash Bandicoot/Spyro (which Sony had no control over).

Guess what else? Now that they have Uncharted, this will be the first time in NaughtyDog's history they cross gens with a franchise, as well as making more than 3 installments. What a coincidence.

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#128 Evo_nine
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@StrongDeadlift said:

@hiphops_savior said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Isn't this just stating the obvious?

xbox is just halogearsforza. Nintendo has a hard on for a plummer and an androgynous Elf boy.

Says alot about the fanbases for each system tbh.

And Sony wishes they have something that they can milk.

There is a reason why Mario and Link survived for so long while their contemporaries flaked out.

/discussion.

Sony in its entire history in the console war has NEVER really had a first party IP with the quality, marketability, and the staying power to be as relevant as Mario, Zelda, MasterChief, etc.

With the exception of Grand Turismo, and Crash Bandicoot/Spyro (which Sony had no control over).

Guess what else? Now that they have Uncharted, this will be the first time in NaughtyDog's history they cross gens with a franchise, as well as making more than 3 installments. What a coincidence.

I agree completely and its about time they did to be honest.

I will buy a ps4 only for unchartered and last of us.

Eveything else they have to offer sucks.

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#129  Edited By StrongDeadlift
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@ristactionjakso said:

@DarkLink77 said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

Eh. SSM does a good job. And Demon's Souls was pretty good.

But yes, aside from those, their studios are largely unimpressive.

Ni No Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, God of War series, LBP 2, InFamous 1 and 2, Tales of Xillia and Twisted Metal all unimpressive games? I say nay.

Yes........Twisted Metal was an unimpressive game :I

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#130  Edited By finalfantasy94
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@Joedgabe said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

I actually liked Mod Nation Racers, It's a lot better than mario Kart because it gives you a way to defend yourself against items. Unlike Mario Kart's random item OPness. It also rewarded you for doing good drifts and turns. But games like that may not see the light of day again, and are out shined by games of the same genre with a higher fan base.

I so agree with this. With mod nation I actually had fun unlike mario kart. I cant stand those games. Also on topic sony did give us alot of IP and most from what iv played were good.I dont know where all this mediocre talk is coming from.I guess if its not 9's it sucks.

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#131  Edited By ActicEdge
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@finalfantasy94 said:

@Joedgabe said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

I actually liked Mod Nation Racers, It's a lot better than mario Kart because it gives you a way to defend yourself against items. Unlike Mario Kart's random item OPness. It also rewarded you for doing good drifts and turns. But games like that may not see the light of day again, and are out shined by games of the same genre with a higher fan base.

I so agree with this. With mod nation I actually had fun unlike mario kart. I cant stand those games. Also on topic sony did give us alot of IP and most from what iv played were good.I dont know where all this mediocre talk is coming from.I guess if its not 9's it sucks.

Generally speaking, its that a lot of multiplats offer similar experiences but better or at least equivalent. Just my opinion though. The quality of most Sony 1st party games is way over hyped. They're not terrible but there are just loads of way more interesting things to play out there.

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#132 kemar7856
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well we all know nintendo wont LOL rehash mario

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@StrongDeadlift: Be very careful where you place your hopes. Gran Turismo 6 turned out to be mediocre, and the series was in decline since GT4. I am in doubt how far Naughty Dog can move along Drake's story in Uncharted, and where Uncharted would be without Drake.

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#134 Heil68
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@trugs26 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

@trugs26 said:

@Heil68 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Thank you Sony for having the backs of gamers everywhere! Down with Microsoft!

By gamers for gamers the SONY way. We are humbled SONY.

Does anyone hear a sucking sound?

Microsoft sucking the money out of the wallets of gamers everywhere. That's the sound you're hearing.

No not that. It's not like a vacuum sound. It's another sound, I can't quite put my finger on it. But it's very loud.

It's the black hole MS made in 2009 when the decided to drop core and go upwards of 65% casual with Kinect(lol) to chase the Wii's pot of gold. Don't fret, SONY has you covered.

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#135  Edited By trugs26
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@Heil68 said:

@trugs26 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

@trugs26 said:

@Heil68 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Thank you Sony for having the backs of gamers everywhere! Down with Microsoft!

By gamers for gamers the SONY way. We are humbled SONY.

Does anyone hear a sucking sound?

Microsoft sucking the money out of the wallets of gamers everywhere. That's the sound you're hearing.

No not that. It's not like a vacuum sound. It's another sound, I can't quite put my finger on it. But it's very loud.

It's the black hole MS made in 2009 when the decided to drop core and go upwards of 65% casual with Kinect(lol) to chase the Wii's pot of gold. Don't fret, SONY has you covered.

Now I just heard a splat sound. Disgusting.

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#136  Edited By Joedgabe
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@ActicEdge said:

@finalfantasy94 said:

@Joedgabe said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

I actually liked Mod Nation Racers, It's a lot better than mario Kart because it gives you a way to defend yourself against items. Unlike Mario Kart's random item OPness. It also rewarded you for doing good drifts and turns. But games like that may not see the light of day again, and are out shined by games of the same genre with a higher fan base.

I so agree with this. With mod nation I actually had fun unlike mario kart. I cant stand those games. Also on topic sony did give us alot of IP and most from what iv played were good.I dont know where all this mediocre talk is coming from.I guess if its not 9's it sucks.

Generally speaking, its that a lot of multiplats offer similar experiences but better or at least equivalent. Just my opinion though. The quality of most Sony 1st party games is way over hyped. They're not terrible but there are just loads of way more interesting things to play out there.

So true, then they get shut down :P

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#137  Edited By ristactionjakso
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@ActicEdge said:

@ristactionjakso said:

@DarkLink77 said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

Eh. SSM does a good job. And Demon's Souls was pretty good.

But yes, aside from those, their studios are largely unimpressive.

Ni No Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, God of War series, LBP 2, InFamous 1 and 2, Tales of Xillia and Twisted Metal all unimpressive games? I say nay.

Ni No Kuni is Level 5. Valkyria Chronicles is Sega. Tales of Xillia is Namco. Do people not even know what Sony actually produces?

They are exclusives, why does it matter?

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#138 redskins26rocs
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Compared to MS and Nintendo that does not mean much, lol

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#139 soulitane
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@ristactionjakso said:

@ActicEdge said:

@ristactionjakso said:

@DarkLink77 said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

Eh. SSM does a good job. And Demon's Souls was pretty good.

But yes, aside from those, their studios are largely unimpressive.

Ni No Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, God of War series, LBP 2, InFamous 1 and 2, Tales of Xillia and Twisted Metal all unimpressive games? I say nay.

Ni No Kuni is Level 5. Valkyria Chronicles is Sega. Tales of Xillia is Namco. Do people not even know what Sony actually produces?

They are exclusives, why does it matter?

Because this thread is about Sony creating the IP, not 3rd parties.

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#140 no-scope-AK47
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The 1st party is what makes Sony consoles great.

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@trugs26 said:

@Heil68 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Thank you Sony for having the backs of gamers everywhere! Down with Microsoft!

By gamers for gamers the SONY way. We are humbled SONY.

Does anyone hear a sucking sound?

lmao!

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#142 Salt_The_Fries
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Doing what they're are unparalleled at: cultivating their brainwashing propaganda. This time it's about first party offerings. Sorry but if you took 3rd party exclusives away, all that'd left would be pretty much Naughty Dog.

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#143  Edited By Rage010101
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@mems_1224 said:

@bbkkristian said:

Like Sony's IPs were really THAT good. lol Naughty Dog pulled everyone else's weight. asides from their IPs, Sony's other IPs were pretty lackluster.

this x100

I concur

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#144 The_Last_Ride
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I wish Nintendo would take more risks, they would have looked far better off if they also tried to do some risks. Sony has by far the best capability to make new ip's from all three and i am looking forward to what they can make for my ps4

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#145  Edited By Seabas989
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I find it funny that a Naughty Dog game hasn't won GOTY in GS.

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#146  Edited By drekula2
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please let them not be shooters

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#147  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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@charizard1605 said:

Only counting console IPs, last generation Nintendo did Xenoblade, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Wii, and Endless Ocean.

Not even close to the level that Sony did it, but this myth that Nintendo does not do any new IPs is just that, a myth. The Wii U, for example, has already had The Wonderful 101, is getting X, and has Miyamoto's new IP and Koizumi's new IP in the works.

Well I'm not entirely sure about Nintendo Made IPs, but I know the Wii has introduced New IPs in general. There were,

  1. Xenoblade
  2. Pandora's Tower
  3. The Last Story
  4. Endless Ocean
  5. Wii Series (includes Sports, Music, Play and Fit)
  6. Just Dance
  7. Raving Rabbids (spin off of Rayman)
  8. Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon
  9. MadWorld
  10. No More Heroes
  11. Red Steel
  12. Boom Blox
  13. deBlob
  14. Muramasa the Demon Blade
  15. Fling Smash
  16. Lost in Shadow
  17. Mushroom Men
  18. Deadly Creatures
  19. Little King's Story
  20. Zack & Wiki
  21. The Conduit
  22. Cursed Mountain
  23. Mini Ninjas
  24. Arc Rise Fantasia
  25. Ivy the Kiwi?

and there are probably more, but I'm not going to look up anymore games right now. Most of these aren't Nintendo made, but they first appeared on a Nintendo Console and not a Sony or Microsoft Console.

as for Xenoblade, I'm pretty sure the Devs have already said it's not part of the Xenosaga franchise. I'm assuming Xenoblade is to Xenosaga as Persona is to Shin Megami.