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#51 DaysAirlines
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Is EA in the bidding? IS EA in the bidding?

By God..if EA makes the purchase, I shall cut myself.

ToScA-
UBISOFT and ACTIVISION are the top bidders. God help us all!
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#52 shaggyaz
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I PRAY to god that EA doesnt get take two,if they do u can say bye bye to quailty sport games
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#53 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="gmastersexay"]

Think Again!

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/09/commentary/column_gaming/?postversion=2007030911

One company that says it's not in the running is Microsoft (Charts). Because today's independent publishers are platform agnostic - that is to say, they build games for all major systems - taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360.

"We could never launch an acquisition bid at a third party publisher," said Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios.

DaysAirlines

Yeah, SCEA isn't going for a bid either, check the first article. The two companies actively engaged are Ubisoft and Activision.

Which article mate? I can't find anything :(

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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]That is what I really don't understand. WHy would they make a crappy game then all of sudden decide to make an awesome game. Microsft should have just given them a second chance.musicalmac
*Well* I'm not inferring anything by this but if check out the Heavenly Sword website it doesn't say it's exlusive to the PS3 anywhere on there. Shane Kim told me.

:lol: Boy wouldn't that raise some sort of H-E double hockey sticks on this board!

Haha, to make it even worse if you check out the 1UP interview with Shane Kim he said upcomming games you think are exlusive to the PS3 right now won't be...well just watch the interview.

Trust me, I'm not saying this in a "prove it!" tone, but... link?

Link
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]That is what I really don't understand. WHy would they make a crappy game then all of sudden decide to make an awesome game. Microsft should have just given them a second chance.DaysAirlines
*Well* I'm not inferring anything by this but if check out the Heavenly Sword website it doesn't say it's exlusive to the PS3 anywhere on there. Shane Kim told me.

Shane Kim is an Idiot, its an exclusive title. Its funded, published and advertised by Sony. They cant port it to another console. And by the way your talking about the 1up interview,and Shane Kim was reffering to VF5.
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dang... that's quite the list that is under T2.
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[QUOTE="gmastersexay"]

Think Again!

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/09/commentary/column_gaming/?postversion=2007030911

One company that says it's not in the running is Microsoft (Charts). Because today's independent publishers are platform agnostic - that is to say, they build games for all major systems - taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360.

"We could never launch an acquisition bid at a third party publisher," said Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios.

too_much_eslim
Once again Microsoft makes another blunder. First it was HS now this. They have the smallest in house game development, this could actually strengthen it. Oh well their loss. If they ened up not getting GTA IV good for them.

Sounds like you either didn't read or didn't understand that article. Take 2 makes many games most of which are multiplat. If MS bought them then all T2 games would be made for 360 and maybe PC. By making T2 a first party dev for MS they would be cutting 2/3s of T2's potential revenue since they wouldn't be making games for Ps3 or Wii. In other words Take 2's value is in 3rd party developement not first party. Making it first party would severely cut it's value equaling a pretty big lose for whoever bought them.
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#58 musicalmac  Moderator
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LinkDaysAirlines
Thx.
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Linkmusicalmac
Thx.

The links on the bottom, there is a part three and a part 2, I forget which one it was.
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[QUOTE="BillGates_Money"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]EA is the one whose gonna buy this one, they want 2K sports... They want it to die.
Sgt_Hale

it wouldnt be smart to buy a company and then just crush part of it, that would be a major loss

Of course it would, that's how business works. You buy out and strangle the competition. This would give EA a stranglehold on the sports genre. Even if they continued any of the games in 2k's line, it wouldn't be with the full support that the games have enjoyed thus far. Eventually they'd sizzle out. Think about it, why would they want to put development money into two football, basketball, baseball, etc franchises when they would now have the opportunity to just focus on their own knowing that they don't have anymore competition?

no no you guys are right about that i was talking about all the developers under t2
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]That is what I really don't understand. WHy would they make a crappy game then all of sudden decide to make an awesome game. Microsft should have just given them a second chance.musicalmac
*Well* I'm not inferring anything by this but if check out the Heavenly Sword website it doesn't say it's exlusive to the PS3 anywhere on there. Shane Kim told me.

:lol: Boy wouldn't that raise some sort of H-E double hockey sticks on this board!

Haha, to make it even worse if you check out the 1UP interview with Shane Kim he said upcomming games you think are exlusive to the PS3 right now won't be...well just watch the interview.

Trust me, I'm not saying this in a "prove it!" tone, but... link?

You guys are dreaming if you think HS isn't still exclusive to Sony. It's being published BY Sony. Sony is paying for the development. So you can pretty much kill the idea of that one jumping ship.

Shane Kim's excuse is just that... an excuse. What he's saying is why pay for a company that will already be making game's for us when we'll have to turn around and start paying for the development too. Sure there is some truth to that but the underlying factory is that Microsoft's game division isn't in a place of financial strength to be able to afford such a purchase. Because the truth of the matter is, it's not about what games would already be coming to the 360, it's about what games they would have been able to take away from Sony.

Sony is still king when it comes to exclusives and Microsoft hasn't learned what it takes to reverse this.

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DaysAirlines

Please explain to me why SCEA isn't bidding either. I read that CNN article and found nothing on Sony :(

Or are you just saying that SCEA is under the same situation just because Microsoft are?

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#63 anprionsa
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The reason M$ would need to buy it is to cement its dominance over the PS3, and thats it. That would leave the PS3 with MGS and FF, with a couple of others. I don't see a need, competition keeps the companies honest.

I'd rather have it go to a 3rd Party Developer.
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DaysAirlines

Please explain to me why SCEA isn't bidding either. I read that CNN article and found nothing on Sony :(

Or are you just saying that SCEA is under the same situation just because Microsoft are?

ToScA-
Yeah neither MS or Sony are, I raked the whole article for it. Sorry about that.
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#65 Filonus
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good lord...no more gta on sony consoles....this is what i don't like about microsoft they're just tooooo goddamn big 
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="gmastersexay"]

Think Again!

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/09/commentary/column_gaming/?postversion=2007030911

One company that says it's not in the running is Microsoft (Charts). Because today's independent publishers are platform agnostic - that is to say, they build games for all major systems - taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360.

"We could never launch an acquisition bid at a third party publisher," said Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios.

Kuniva1181
Once again Microsoft makes another blunder. First it was HS now this. They have the smallest in house game development, this could actually strengthen it. Oh well their loss. If they ened up not getting GTA IV good for them.

Sounds like you either didn't read or didn't understand that article. Take 2 makes many games most of which are multiplat. If MS bought them then all T2 games would be made for 360 and maybe PC. By making T2 a first party dev for MS they would be cutting 2/3s of T2's potential revenue since they wouldn't be making games for Ps3 or Wii. In other words Take 2's value is in 3rd party developement not first party. Making it first party would severely cut it's value equaling a pretty big lose for whoever bought them.



It would cut it's value in the short term. MS believes in their investment into the xbox as a console. So if they bought it and took GTA exclusive it would be at a loss but at a bigger gain cause the 14 Million or so that bought the PS2 version of GTA: San Andreas would have to get a 360 to play the game and a lot of people would make the switch or buy that too on top of another console. Not for just one game no but I mean that on top of other things.

In the long run it would help the Xbox360 a lot. But I guess it won't happen
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#67 Filonus
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"]

DaysAirlines

Please explain to me why SCEA isn't bidding either. I read that CNN article and found nothing on Sony :(

Or are you just saying that SCEA is under the same situation just because Microsoft are?

DaysAirlines
Yeah neither MS or Sony are, I raked the whole article for it. Sorry about that.



joy of joys.

i'm pretty ig'nant of this sorta thing, but could EA buy Take two?
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#68 kcpp2b
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I hear Hilary Clinton wants to buy it
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What ever M$ wants, they tend to get!
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MS is gonna buy this. they just got the money. and than it's the for sony's gaming consoles. this is gonna be a huuuuuuuuuge fight

and don't tell me MS isn't going to bid for this one... thats just nonsense
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"]

DaysAirlines

Please explain to me why SCEA isn't bidding either. I read that CNN article and found nothing on Sony :(

Or are you just saying that SCEA is under the same situation just because Microsoft are?

DaysAirlines

Yeah neither MS or Sony are, I raked the whole article for it. Sorry about that.

Interesting.

Also, I doubt Microsoft would let Sony make such a purchase without stepping in themselves.

EA could still very much be a buyer:

"As for potential buyers, the list is long. Game publishers UbiSoft and Activision (Charts) have reportedly explored a possible bid. Elevation Partners, the venture capital group whose members include U2 front man Bono, is a possibility as well. And Rupert Murdoch's News Corp (Charts). has also been mentioned regularly as a possible suitor."

Ubisoft and Activision have placed bids, hopefully EA doesn't.

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If EA purchases this, it's either good or bad. Good if they have 2K sports work on all the sports title. Or ba by not letting 2K sports work on any sports titles. I hope Ubisoft wins.
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good lord...no more gta on sony consoles....this is what i don't like about microsoft they're just tooooo goddamn big Filonus
You must have missed the part where Microsoft can't afford to buy them???
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#74 Sgt_Hale
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MS is gonna buy this. they just got the money. and than it's the for sony's gaming consoles. this is gonna be a huuuuuuuuuge fight

and don't tell me MS isn't going to bid for this one... thats just nonsense
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They've already announced that they're not bidding on it. You're not paying attention. Their gaming division can't afford it.
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MS is gonna buy this. they just got the money. and than it's the for sony's gaming consoles. this is gonna be a huuuuuuuuuge fight

and don't tell me MS isn't going to bid for this one... thats just nonsense
DrOleg


Apparently they aren't going to
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#76 DrOleg
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[QUOTE="DrOleg"]MS is gonna buy this. they just got the money. and than it's the for sony's gaming consoles. this is gonna be a huuuuuuuuuge fight

and don't tell me MS isn't going to bid for this one... thats just nonsense
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They've already announced that they're not bidding on it. You're not paying attention. Their gaming division can't afford it.



yeah yeah so? billy is gonna buy it. for him it's like buying bubblegum
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[QUOTE="Filonus"]good lord...no more gta on sony consoles....this is what i don't like about microsoft they're just tooooo goddamn big Sgt_Hale
You must have missed the part where Microsoft can't afford to buy them???

Neither is Sony, Activision and Ubisoft are.
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#78 DaysAirlines
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]

DaysAirlines

Please explain to me why SCEA isn't bidding either. I read that CNN article and found nothing on Sony :(

Or are you just saying that SCEA is under the same situation just because Microsoft are?

ToScA-

Yeah neither MS or Sony are, I raked the whole article for it. Sorry about that.

Interesting.

Also, I doubt Microsoft would let Sony make such a purchase without stepping in themselves.

EA could still very much be a buyer:

"As for potential buyers, the list is long. Game publishers UbiSoft and Activision (Charts) have reportedly explored a possible bid. Elevation Partners, the venture capital group whose members include U2 front man Bono, is a possibility as well. And Rupert Murdoch's News Corp (Charts). has also been mentioned regularly as a possible suitor."

Ubisoft and Activision have placed bids, hopefully EA doesn't.

I think me and you are alone on this. The rest of the thread seems to think MS and Sony are placing bids.
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where's nintendo?

why aren't they bidding as well?
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]

DaysAirlines

Please explain to me why SCEA isn't bidding either. I read that CNN article and found nothing on Sony :(

Or are you just saying that SCEA is under the same situation just because Microsoft are?

DaysAirlines

Yeah neither MS or Sony are, I raked the whole article for it. Sorry about that.

Interesting.

Also, I doubt Microsoft would let Sony make such a purchase without stepping in themselves.

EA could still very much be a buyer:

"As for potential buyers, the list is long. Game publishers UbiSoft and Activision (Charts) have reportedly explored a possible bid. Elevation Partners, the venture capital group whose members include U2 front man Bono, is a possibility as well. And Rupert Murdoch's News Corp (Charts). has also been mentioned regularly as a possible suitor."

Ubisoft and Activision have placed bids, hopefully EA doesn't.

I think me and you are alone on this. The rest of the thread seems to think MS and Sony are placing bids.

Not me, I know the truth.
I know who is gonna buy T2, that's right you heard it here first folks....in a failed attempt at saving her very long gone career, hell incarnate Britney Spears is trying to gather up enough money to buy Take2 all by herself
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Think Again!

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/09/commentary/column_gaming/?postversion=2007030911

One company that says it's not in the running is Microsoft (Charts). Because today's independent publishers are platform agnostic - that is to say, they build games for all major systems - taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360.

"We could never launch an acquisition bid at a third party publisher," said Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios.

gmastersexay
Thats probably correct since you need to all the right pieces to keep a company that big functioning correctly. Now if it were just a studio thats different, but a publisher thats a great undertaking. Now if it were just to buy Rockstar, now that would be a good call. But the whole shabang, I don't think so. 
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]Bidding war. Hmm.... Well we know who has the advantage in this one.kcpp2b


This is really huge. If MS doesn't win this and buy them they are nuts!! GTA is one of the biggest franchise in the gaming world with over 50 Million copies of their games sold. Meaning over $2 Billion in revenue from that game alone.

If MS was smart they'd buy them out and make GTA an exclusive. I would do it in terms of business for my company but personally I rather have it open for all gamers cause it's a great franchise

the problem is that even w/ that 2 billion take-two has been in the red for over a year. MSG or SCEA might love to have GTA but not the rotting carcass attached to it. and if they got r\uthless and essentialy bough the company to own the gmes then dumped all the employes, infastructure etc they'd be villified. Let ubi or activision take it.
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I think MS and Sony are just staying closed lipped on this deliberately. Why would they want the other major companies knowing they are in the bidding? They want to keep the competition secret until the first shots are really fired.

They would both be CRAZY if they didn't bid. Call me what you want, I did read the article about them no bidding, that doesn't mean I don't think they will.

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I think MS and Sony are just staying closed lipped on this deliberately. Why would they want the other major companies knowing they are in the bidding? They want to keep the competition secret until the first shots are really fired.

They would both be CRAZY if they didn't bid. Call me what you want, I did read the article about them no bidding, that doesn't mean I don't think they will.

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This is how Bill Gates made Windows dominant...by buying over other companies/exlusives. Lets just wait and see how this is going to end up...I doubt EA is gonna buy it. I'd say either Sony or MS.
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MS has this in the bag.Mudig
For sure i'm sure Bill Gates has enough in his left pocket to buy them.
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Would be funny if Nintendo scores Rockstar and change the entire series into a kiddy park

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Would be funny if Nintendo scores Rockstar and change the entire series into a kiddy park

redneckdouglas


:lol: I was thinking the same thing. I just don't want EA to win 2K, they would milk GTA to death.
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#88 redneckdouglas
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It'll be no doubt EA is going to win something. If GTA goes to EA / UBISOFT, it'll be multiplatform on all systems (PS3, 360, Wii, PC) no matter what. GTA IV would be my last purchase for the series. Number 5 is a no go.
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#89 wmc540
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where's nintendo?

why aren't they bidding as well?
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Cause they arleady have the best 1st party game developers and they would be stupid to purchase them.
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#90 wmc540
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It'll be no doubt EA is going to win something. If GTA goes to EA / UBISOFT, it'll be multiplatform on all systems (PS3, 360, Wii, PC) no matter what. GTA IV would be my last purchase for the series. Number 5 is a no go.redneckdouglas
It wouldn't be on the Wii. You kid yourself. Where is Graw 2? Where is Army of two?
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Sony will snag it up in no time,  M$ ruined Rare
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#92 Acenso
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To be honest. The only two reasons to get Take-Two would be Irrational Games and Rockstar.

I believe this is going to play out differently. Instead of it just being a buy one, buy all. I think they are going to break it down into the development teams.

And the three teams to gun for would be. Rockstar North of course, Irrational Games, and Firaxis
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#93 Elias_Vaughn
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As long as Sony, MS, and EA don't win we're all good.
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#94 Thrice_III
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I know the link says nothing about Sony making a bid, but this a move they have to make to get alot of good publicity. They have been beaten down lately and securing GTA4 exclusivity would be a huge deal. That will be a definite system seller.(right up there with Halo 3 come fall/winter time)
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#95 Dreams-Visions
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MS has this in the bag.Mudig
If they want it, I can't see any other company keeping them from getting it.
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#96 Dreams-Visions
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Sony will snag it up in no time,  M$ ruined RareMattBrian
Bull*hit. People retired from Rare before the sale. And BTW, Rare has the most AA games of any single dev house this generation. all highly-regarded AA games, too. They still have the magic.
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#97 diggyzoom
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Microsoft is too busy buying Capcom and Konami to even care.

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#98 lazerluke
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[QUOTE="DrOleg"]MS is gonna buy this. they just got the money. and than it's the for sony's gaming consoles. this is gonna be a huuuuuuuuuge fight

and don't tell me MS isn't going to bid for this one... thats just nonsense
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They've already announced that they're not bidding on it. You're not paying attention. Their gaming division can't afford it.

The Gaming Division is due to come into profit next finacial year a whole year ahead of schedule. The gaming division could not afford to make the 360, yet it still did.
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#99 BackFlip101
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If MS ever bought Take Two I would be forced to buy a 360 as I NEED to play GTAIV

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#100 killtactics
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Sony will snag it up in no time,  M$ ruined RareMattBrian
just like they ruined Bungie....