Sony's Motion Controller Release Date - DELAY

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I am only saying I just do not see Sony's thing( again it does not have a name) near ready to go against Natal. Also as far as AAA calibur games you act like 360 does not also have them. Reach, Fable, Alan Wake and so on.

CanYouDiglt

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

that word "embarrassment" is such a subjective word, because from what i recall, the people at E3 really took to the sony wand as well as they did with NATAL. The difference was that the sony's wand was actually in your face deal, where as NATAL was a in your face deal, but alot of it was a video fake

musicalmac

At least the Natal presentation didn't look like it was planned the day before. :PIronBass

BTW, The sony wand sure enough made the wii motion controls look dated, and nothing but bad news is coming from NATAL as of recent. This is the only peice of bad news i read from sony and the wand since E3 09

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="i_am_interested"]why? because sony had the actual tech people behind it demonstrating it and not some PR guy like kudo tsunoda? what was embarrassing was that "ever want to see the bottom of an avatars shoe" mishap - i dont think a tech guy would have made a mistake like thati_am_interested

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="ermacness"] Well, what I got out of it was that one company was prepared, and presented a demo on their product, as well as a benchmark for what they were shooting for by the time of release. The other company... well... IB said it well: [QUOTE="IronBass"] At least the Natal presentation didn't look like it was planned the day before. :Permacness

BTW, The sony wand sure enough made the wii motion controls look dated, and nothing but bad news is coming from NATAL as of recent. This is the only peice of bad news i read from sony and the wand since E3 09

with a fake video of milo:lol: Sony's wand wasn't as robust as NATAL, but it was actual presentation. The milo scenes at E3 with NATAL was a fake.

BTW, The sony wand sure enough made the wii motion controls look dated, and nothing but bad news is coming from NATAL as of recent. This is the only peice of bad news i read from sony and the wand since E3 09

ermacness

Actually, I argued that the delay is good news for consumers. Read closely the posts you reply to, my friend.

Besides, your biggest complaint with the Natal presentation is the pre-recorded video of Milo. Ironically, that's probably going to work better than anything else Natal will end up doing. :lol:

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"] Yup. :lol:asdasdrgr

BTW, The sony wand sure enough made the wii motion controls look dated, and nothing but bad news is coming from NATAL as of recent. This is the only peice of bad news i read from sony and the wand since E3 09

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I am only saying I just do not see Sony's thing( again it does not have a name) near ready to go against Natal. Also as far as AAA calibur games you act like 360 does not also have them. Reach, Fable, Alan Wake and so on.

CanYouDiglt

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="musicalmac"] Did you see the video your fellow GS user was kind enough to link on the last page? That's not so much a demo as it is a mistake. A video would have been better than that.CanYouDiglt

dont know if you realize this but he's swinging a 3 dimensional want XYZ in real life trying to hit a ball thats bouncing in 2 dimensions XY on a tvi_am_interested

It looks as though I'm going to need to be more clear.

Don't you think it was foolish to present it then? You don't think it wasn't embarrassing? Don't you think they should have prepared for that kind of thing?

BTW, The sony wand sure enough made the wii motion controls look dated.ermacness

[QUOTE="asdasdrgr"][QUOTE="ermacness"]with a fake video of milo:lol: Sony's wand wasn't as robust as NATAL, but it was actual presentation. The milo scenes at E3 with NATAL was a fake.

BTW, The sony wand sure enough made the wii motion controls look dated, and nothing but bad news is coming from NATAL as of recent. This is the only peice of bad news i read from sony and the wand since E3 09

CanYouDiglt

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]dont know if you realize this but he's swinging a 3 dimensional want XYZ in real life trying to hit a ball thats bouncing in 2 dimensions XY on a tvmusicalmac

It looks as though I'm going to need to be more clear.

Don't you think it was foolish to present it then? You don't think it wasn't embarrassing? Don't you think they should have prepared for that kind of thing?

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

with a fake video of milo:lol: Sony's wand wasn't as robust as NATAL, but it was actual presentation. The milo scenes at E3 with NATAL was a fake.

BTW, The sony wand sure enough made the wii motion controls look dated, and nothing but bad news is coming from NATAL as of recent. This is the only peice of bad news i read from sony and the wand since E3 09

musicalmac

Actually, I argued that the delay is good news for consumers. Read closely the posts you reply to, my friend.

Besides, your biggest complaint with the Natal presentation is the pre-recorded video of Milo. Ironically, that's probably going to work better than anything else Natal will end up doing. :lol:

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]dont know if you realize this but he's swinging a 3 dimensional want XYZ in real life trying to hit a ball thats bouncing in 2 dimensions XY on a tvmusicalmac

It looks as though I'm going to need to be more clear.

Don't you think it was foolish to present it then? You don't think it wasn't embarrassing? Don't you think they should have prepared for that kind of thing?

Yeah, he got it eventually- accidentally. If they had done it the way Microsoft did, they would have managed to show the long-term goals of the 'wand', and we the consumers (you and I, and everyone else here) would have gotten a much better picture at Sony's new motion technology.

Why make excuses?

[QUOTE="ermacness"]BTW, The sony wand sure enough made the wii motion controls look dated.IronBass

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] what video? the tennis ball video? if so thats because he's trying to figure out where a 2d ball is in a tv in real life 3d space, its all guesstimates to accurately hit something like that you would need stereoscopic 3di_am_interested

it was to some degree but he did end up hitting it eventually im sure if they filmed it the way that microsoft did, they would have only shown the last 3 seconds of him hitting iti_am_interested

[QUOTE="ermacness"]BTW, The sony wand sure enough made the wii motion controls look dated.IronBass

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="i_am_interested"]dont know if you realize this but he's swinging a 3 dimensional want XYZ in real life trying to hit a ball thats bouncing in 2 dimensions XY on a tvIronBass

It looks as though I'm going to need to be more clear.

Don't you think it was foolish to present it then? You don't think it wasn't embarrassing? Don't you think they should have prepared for that kind of thing?

with m$ track record with hardware, they'll need more than a fake vid and a probable promise to convince me in that sense with NATAL

ermacness

Well if you look at that way, it is better to copy something recent(wiimote) than something old(eyetoy) :Pasdasdrgr

It looks as though I'm going to need to be more clear.

Don't you think it was foolish to present it then? You don't think it wasn't embarrassing? Don't you think they should have prepared for that kind of thing?

[QUOTE="asdasdrgr"]Well if you look at that way, it is better to copy something recent(wiimote) than something old(eyetoy) :PIronBass

hahah BAM!! haha i still lol at that.

Yeah, he got it eventually- accidentally. If they had done it the way Microsoft did, they would have managed to show the long-term goals of the 'wand', and we the consumers (you and I, and everyone else here) would have gotten a much better picture at Sony's new motion technology.

Why make excuses?

wow, presentations over actual tech, i guess peter malonu should do all of microsofts talking theni_am_interested

Natal's presentation was so embarassing it got to be in this vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgNbfRrH1jI&feature=PlayList&p=FD3379E008E32E61&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=55

hahah BAM!! haha i still lol at that.

asdasdrgr

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]wow, presentations over actual tech, i guess peter malonu should do all of microsofts talking thenIronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="i_am_interested"]wow, presentations over actual tech, i guess peter malonu should do all of microsofts talking theni_am_interested

yeah, ok, some of us actually see through fake videos and actually see tech for what it isi_am_interested

This has already been posted in SW.

Link to 'The Sony Motion Delay Thread.'

As far as the delay...if that's what it takes.

This project and Natal aren't interesting until they unveil real AAA exclusive game software, not ports or shovelware. The real issue is showing off WHY we want these products.

This isn't Sony's first RODEO when you look at the Eyetoy on PS3, Sixaxis on PS3, and other projects, so if they need to take time to find a reason for gamers like me to actually want this, then they should take their time.

Delay's are okay, like Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, GT5, Zelda : Twilight Princess...so I'm okay with delays.

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EDIT : Yeah, Batman AA is another great one, there is so many delays that have happened for the good. Of course, delay's aren't surefire, like Too Human taught us.

SolidTy

Spot on man, delays are part of the industry and most often than not they unveil a much better product in the end. Why people whine and moan about them are beyond me. It's not like most of us are dying to try out Sonys Wand in the first place.

[QUOTE="asdasdrgr"]Natal's presentation was so embarassing it got to be in this vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgNbfRrH1jI&feature=PlayList&p=FD3379E008E32E61&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=55

hahah BAM!! haha i still lol at that.

IronBass

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] yeah, ok, some of us actually see through fake videos and actually see tech for what it isIronBass

although i would actually very impressed if a camera could tell whether i was upshifting or down shifting a car in midair with just my hand without an actual piece of hardware

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

with m$ track record with hardware, they'll need more than a fake vid and a probable promise to convince me in that sense with NATAL

musicalmac

Nah. As long as it's the "actual tech", it does not matter if it was a clearly incomplete prototype and a rushed presentation.... :PIronBass

[QUOTE="asdasdrgr"]Natal's presentation was so embarassing it got to be in this vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgNbfRrH1jI&feature=PlayList&p=FD3379E008E32E61&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=55

hahah BAM!! haha i still lol at that.

actually yeah one presentation was 100 percent real time meaning everything is possible, one video wasnt meaning everything could be possiblei_am_interested

The problem is... that that"everything" was so poorly presented that acually doesn't help. At all.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="ermacness"] As far as overpromising and underdelivering goes, Sony has already taken that crown. That's theirs to keep for a long time. [QUOTE="IronBass"] Nah. As long as it's the "actual tech", it does not matter if it was a clearly incomplete prototype and a rushed presentation.... :Permacness

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]actually yeah one presentation was 100 percent real time meaning everything is possible, one video wasnt meaning everything could be possibleIronBass

The problem is... that that"everything" was so poorly presented that acually doesn't help. At all.

everything was poorly presented? everything looked great in real time to mei_am_interested

The PS2 was also very unreliableIronBass

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]everything was poorly presented? everything looked great in real time to meIronBass

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]everything was poorly presented? everything looked great in real time to meIronBass

hopefully you found the processor in natal rushed and half baked too natal was shown almost 6 months ago, the removal didnt just happen at CESi_am_interested

Can you give me any studies proving that? asdasdrgr

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]hopefully you found the processor in natal rushed and half baked too natal was shown almost 6 months ago, the removal didnt just happen at CESIronBass

Can you give me any studies proving that? asdasdrgr

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]hopefully you found the processor in natal rushed and half baked too natal was shown almost 6 months ago, the removal didnt just happen at CESIronBass

Can you give me any studies proving that? asdasdrgr

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"] Oh right. How silly of me to even doubt. :PIronBass

No, RROD has studies backing up the failure rate, if you want i can show them. But can you prove the claim you made about the ps2 having a high failure rate?asdasdrgr

of course you dont find it half baked, they took that thing out right after E3 where claimed it was going to be in there fake videos, lag, missing processors, whats next?i_am_interested

but the ps2 had mainly one issue, and that was DRE. The 360 have more than just the RROD, it's just that the RROD happens to be the biggest problem, and the only reason why the DRE was as big as it wast is because sony failed to acknowledge the problem and admit to it, resulting into a class action law suit. The RROD was acknowledge and admitted by m$ to be on their hands and to have a warranty to only cover the RROD specifically, and it still made head line news, and the breaking accessories that complements the RROD and other problems doesn't paint a pretty picture for m$ermacness