Sony's "Move" is going to be a complete failure

[QUOTE="jyoung312"][QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

Oh, I'm sure some will sell, but not enough to break even. They're gonna lose money on this, as will the PSMove. Microsoft might as well come out with a handheld that employs two screens with one of them a touch screen, and market the hell out of it that it's "new and revolutionary." Same thing, pretty much.

Khadaj32

Exactly. It's no secret that Microsoft are rolling the dice on this one. IF it works out, good for them, but I don't realistically see how it will. It's just too late, and the same goes for the Move. However, like you pointed out, the Move is just combining two pre-existing technologies together, and as a result is very cost effective. It doesn't win points for originality, but it's going to offer pretty much the same thing as Natal, with it being cheaper to make and cheaper to sell.

i actually don't see move or natal really failing, but i also don't see either unit matching nintendo's success with motion controls this gen.

[QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

[QUOTE="jyoung312"] I think both will lose money but I think realistically Kinect will lose more $$ b/c the tech is new to MS and they are putting tons of money into marketing. The move is basically combining sony's existing tech together. The move is basically eyetoy + light-wand that has motion sensors built-in. The only new part is the light tracking part as the sixaxis already has the motion sensors so they probably didn't have to do a lot of r&d. Basically, the move is a safer bet than the kinect and willing likely cost sony less in the long run.jyoung312

Exactly. It's no secret that Microsoft are rolling the dice on this one. IF it works out, good for them, but I don't realistically see how it will. It's just too late, and the same goes for the Move. However, like you pointed out, the Move is just combining two pre-existing technologies together, and as a result is very cost effective. It doesn't win points for originality, but it's going to offer pretty much the same thing as Natal, with it being cheaper to make and cheaper to sell.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] and what does that have to do with Natal succeeding and NOT failing? you can market and hype a product till you turn blue, but if it sucks it simply sucks and no one will care eventually. you're talking about the whole OMFG IT"S NEW!!! yet it's just an advanced eyetoy that seems like it won't do what was promised. dude just stop, you're been smashed here. gsus! Firelore29

What I think is completely rediculous is that if you make a thread saying that Move will fail it's fine. Just don't post a thread saying Kinect will fail. Then you're going to get your thread locked.

I am curious if they have said anything about Move being used with the upcoming PS3 3D games and such?

Rename your title to "Kinectic" and you will be right.

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

natal wont flop, it has a starwars game, its a kids dream.

Disturbed123

Your right, it wont flop, it will fail.

Truee Sony move is a POS

a copy of the wii

But the Move has glowing balls.

I am curious if they have said anything about Move being used with the upcoming PS3 3D games and such?

rebirthofman

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Rename your title to "Kinectic" and you will be right.

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

natal wont flop, it has a starwars game, its a kids dream.

killzowned24

Your right, it wont flop, it will fail.

At best the delay in that is horrible. Take a look at the timing difference and there seems to be some difference between his movement and that of the character. If I was a big fan of motion controlls and Kinect in particular, I'd be hoping that this is faked because if it's not the technology has BIG problems.

Lets assume that they manage to make it work to where you can do this in game without the delay and serious problems with properly tracking your motion. How is that really going to play? Sure, it works for that tiny portion where you are using the force to bring the ship down, but what about general gameplay? What about when you are just running around? Turning? It may work for swinging your light saber OK (assuming you don't have lag etc. as that clip shows) but you're going to need the ability to run, jump, turn etc.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Your right, it wont flop, it will fail.

trakem

At best the delay in that is horrible. Take a look at the timing difference and there seems to be some difference between his movement and that of the character. If I was a big fan of motion controlls and Kinect in particular, I'd be hoping that this is faked because if it's not the technology has BIG problems.

Lets assume that they manage to make it work to where you can do this in game without the delay and serious problems with properly tracking your motion. How is that really going to play? Sure, it works for that tiny portion where you are using the force to bring the ship down, but what about general gameplay? What about when you are just running around? Turning? It may work for swinging your light saber OK (assuming you don't have lag etc. as that clip shows) but you're going to need the ability to run, jump, turn etc.

[QUOTE="trakem"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] I guess cows were right all along when saying MS are afraid to have cameras at that event...^^^^^^FAKED GAMEPLAY LOLZ

genaroll

At best the delay in that is horrible. Take a look at the timing difference and there seems to be some difference between his movement and that of the character. If I was a big fan of motion controlls and Kinect in particular, I'd be hoping that this is faked because if it's not the technology has BIG problems.

Lets assume that they manage to make it work to where you can do this in game without the delay and serious problems with properly tracking your motion. How is that really going to play? Sure, it works for that tiny portion where you are using the force to bring the ship down, but what about general gameplay? What about when you are just running around? Turning? It may work for swinging your light saber OK (assuming you don't have lag etc. as that clip shows) but you're going to need the ability to run, jump, turn etc.

I'm just commenting on what they are showing. It's not closed minded to note that what they are showing here doesn't even come close to working.

I'm sorry but that product is going to fail so badly it's not even funny. It looks terribly outdated compared to the other two motion technologies, the controllers are ugly as sin, and any hype it could be building is getting stolen by Kinect.Theyhave tosell a ton of units in order to get developers to even consider making games for it and I just don't see that happening.

Firelore29

The Kinectic would be better off if it wasn't a gaming device, but rather a tool.

Yeah sometimes it makes you think what were Sony thinking throughout this gen.

So far, most of the videos I've seen, it uses two of those glowing balls. So I'm hoping they will give you two of those and that nunchuck controller too. If not, that would be a major failure for me.

natal wont flop, it has a starwars game, its a kids dream.

gamer-adam1

sony have been nothing but failures this genbenbeckman

They've been pumping out quality games this gen, so are they failures in that sense?

Looks like Microsoft solved the lag issue-- now the Kinect actually has negative latency!