Soo GeoW2 looks almost exactly like the first one?

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#101 usule
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there is no doubt in my mind Gears 2 > MGS4 at gamerankingsprimetime2121

+ with gears 2 onlline modes >>>> MGS4... By the way who's still playing MGS4? not me...

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#102 taj7575
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Yeah we got it the first time

Linky

Oh wow, theres a bunch of rundown buildings and the same exact control scheme. you have to be kidding me

*equips flame shield for lemmings that will say "bu bu the grafix are better than teh metal gear")

InfinityTomorro

"we"? what do you mean "we". You own a ps3...

And yes i cant wait for gears 2. Its gonna pwn. more multiplayer options/maps/modes + improved single player = epic.

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#104 Phenom316
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Im sure it will look better than the great GeOW1
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#105 MojondeVACA
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Im sure it will look better than the great GeOW1Phenom316


It already looks better than the first gears,only in the cows eyes it looks just like the first one.
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#106 punkrocker163
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[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"][QUOTE="Fayt445"]Well, it does look better than MGS4.BioShockOwnz

:lol: not even close

Yes, GeoW2 looks better.

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hmmm, lets see. touched up screen shots against old screenshots that arent even final game. try harder next time.

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#107 BioShockOwnz
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Nope, that's how the MGS4 looks. I'll take some pictures of the textures off my HDTV tonight.
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#108 MojondeVACA
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Nope, that's how the MGS4 looks. I'll take some pictures of the textures off my HDTV tonight.BioShockOwnz


Or better yet take picture off the camera mode in MGS4 the textures still look like crap.
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#109 Cipher92
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That's because MGS4 has low resolution textures to fit in the ps3's limited ram. Gears 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mgs4
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#110 krp008
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[QUOTE="Fayt445"]Well, it does look better than MGS4.USMC_Sn1per

lol, x360 fanboy..........................................


What? Gears 1 looks better than MGS4.... MGS4 isnt all that graphically.

If you arnt blown away by Gears 2's graphics, you simply dont own a 360 and are in denial

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#111 Catpee
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That's because MGS4 has low resolution textures to fit in the ps3's limited ram. Gears 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mgs4Cipher92

It's going to score an 8.5 or 9.0 here, certainly not a 10. I just don't see Gears having the wow factor anymore to warrant a perfect. Its going to seem more like a rehash than you think, when its all said and done.

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#112 Vyse_The_Daring
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Nope, that's how the MGS4 looks. I'll take some pictures of the textures off my HDTV tonight.BioShockOwnz

Guess he didn't realize you own a PS3. :P

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#113 dhjohns
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Nope, that's how the MGS4 looks. I'll take some pictures of the textures off my HDTV tonight.BioShockOwnz

Amazing how the myth of MGS4's graphics grows. Don't get me wrong the game is nice but not teh best ever. A lot of posters really believe that it is.

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#114 bungie93
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So Crysis: Warhead doesn't look that much better than Crysis!! It can't be the graphics king! Killzone 2 is the graphics king because it looks a lot better than Killzone 1!!!!!! And MGS4 with its low-res textures looks better than Gears of War. As a matter of fact, every PS3 exclusive looks better than every Xbox 360 exclusive.
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#115 -Master_St3ve-
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Pleas, you console fanboys shouldn't be arguing about graphics ;)
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#116 bungie93
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"][QUOTE="Fayt445"]Well, it does look better than MGS4.punkrocker163

:lol: not even close

Yes, GeoW2 looks better.

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hmmm, lets see. touched up screen shots against old screenshots that arent even final game. try harder next time.

If you think Gears of War 2 doesn't completley destory MGS4 is graphics, you are in denial. MGS4 was never a technically impressive game. Uncharted looks much better than MGS4.

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#117 Snowboarder99
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Um you linked us to a vid with really good graphics. I fail to see your point
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#118 xscrapzx
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[QUOTE="bungie93"]Well Gears of War 1 is one of the best looking games out now, so its not surprising that Gears of War 2 doesn't look that much better. Gears 2 is still the console graphics king though.ReaperV7

MGS4 and Uncharted would like to have a word with you.

So and their word would be fact? :roll:

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#119 dhjohns
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Compare this

And MGS4 with its low-res textures looks better than Gears of War. As a matter of fact, every PS3 exclusive looks better than every Xbox 360 exclusive.bungie93

With this:

If you think Gears of War 2 doesn't completley destory MGS4 is graphics, you are in denial. MGS4 was never a technically impressive game. Uncharted looks much better than MGS4.

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#121 bungie93
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Compare this

[QUOTE="bungie93"] And MGS4 with its low-res textures looks better than Gears of War. As a matter of fact, every PS3 exclusive looks better than every Xbox 360 exclusive.dhjohns

With this:

If you think Gears of War 2 doesn't completley destory MGS4 is graphics, you are in denial. MGS4 was never a technically impressive game. Uncharted looks much better than MGS4.

bungie93

Gotta love SW!!!

I was being sarcastic with my first post. And thank you for quoting only a tiny portion of it.

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#122 Cipher92
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[QUOTE="Cipher92"]That's because MGS4 has low resolution textures to fit in the ps3's limited ram. Gears 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mgs4Catpee

It's going to score an 8.5 or 9.0 here, certainly not a 10. I just don't see Gears having the wow factor anymore to warrant a perfect. Its going to seem more like a rehash than you think, when its all said and done.

Because MGS4 got a 10 in graphcis?... maybe on gamespot but not many other sites. I think MGS4 got a 10 for hype.
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#123 Millennium_King
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The game looks fantastic. I don't understand what you cows could possibly see bad about it.
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#124 Gunblade20
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LOL @ the cows..... they must be getting tired of hyping those games that they'll finally be playing in a few years, GT5, MAG, GOW3..... it must really hurt them fanboys, that we'll be enjoying the 2nd installment to a very popular, fun and exciting IP this Christmas.

For the record, anyone who thinks MGSIV is on par with GeoW2 visuals, needs to lose their fanboy goggles.... heck compare Gears1 with MGSIV if you like... at least it would be a close call.... but Gears 2 destroys your interactive movie in every way...

Also, at least in Gears the Characters don't talk to us, like they know we are on the other side of the TV holding a hunk of plastic in our hands. And at least the dialogue isn't all cheezed up, with a side of cheeze in Gears.... MGS has ridiculous dialogue and voice acting... it's all just screams Cheezy B movie, which is fine, when thats what you are trying to do.... alas, this isn't the case with MGS.

You can tell MGS trys to come off as SUPER COOL & Intense.... and ends up sounding weak and lame.

MP: Gears >>>> MGO

SP: Gears >>> MGS

Graphics: Gears >>> MGS

Voice Acting: Gears >>>>>>>>> MGS

Dialogue: Gears >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MGS

And just so you know I'm not a Lemming, I'm a proud owner of a PC Gaming Rig, 360, Wii & DS.

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I am surprised that anyone even remembers that gears had a story, lol

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#125 Millennium_King
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[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

LOL @ the cows..... they must be getting tired of hyping those games that they'll finally be playing in a few years, GT5, MAG, GOW3..... it must really hurt them fanboys, that we'll be enjoying the 2nd installment to a very popular, fun and exciting IP this Christmas.

For the record, anyone who thinks MGSIV is on par with GeoW2 visuals, needs to lose their fanboy goggles.... heck compare Gears1 with MGSIV if you like... at least it would be a close call.... but Gears 2 destroys your interactive movie in every way...

Also, at least in Gears the Characters don't talk to us, like they know we are on the other side of the TV holding a hunk of plastic in our hands. And at least the dialogue isn't all cheezed up, with a side of cheeze in Gears.... MGS has ridiculous dialogue and voice acting... it's all just screams Cheezy B movie, which is fine, when thats what you are trying to do.... alas, this isn't the case with MGS.

You can tell MGS trys to come off as SUPER COOL & Intense.... and ends up sounding weak and lame.

MP: Gears >>>> MGO

SP: Gears >>> MGS

Graphics: Gears >>> MGS

Voice Acting: Gears >>>>>>>>> MGS

Dialogue: Gears >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MGS

And just so you know I'm not a Lemming, I'm a proud owner of a PC Gaming Rig, 360, Wii & DS.

Gunblade20

I am surprised that anyone even remembers that gears had a story, lol

Resistance had a story too, I think.

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#126 dhjohns
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[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

Compare this

[QUOTE="bungie93"] And MGS4 with its low-res textures looks better than Gears of War. As a matter of fact, every PS3 exclusive looks better than every Xbox 360 exclusive.bungie93

With this:

If you think Gears of War 2 doesn't completley destory MGS4 is graphics, you are in denial. MGS4 was never a technically impressive game. Uncharted looks much better than MGS4.

bungie93

Gotta love SW!!!

I was being sarcastic with my first post. And thank you for quoting only a tiny portion of it.

I only posted the relevant part. I am glad you were being sarcastic. I saw those posts within a few lines of one another, and was like WTF?!?! But I could see someone trying to be serious like that here in SW. No harm no foul. :P

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#127 ApocalypseXIVV
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and yet its going to be a kickass game that will sell millions of copies and be enjoyed by many...so i dont exactly see your point here...?

oh and as for the MGS IV vs Gears thing that seems to have evolved in this thread...i would give Gears the nod on technical graphics for the SP and MP. But MGSIV's cutscenes and art design is much better than gears'

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#128 darkenedsquire
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I'm a manticore and I think gears 2 has the edge here definatly an improvement, though the original still looks pretty sweet and yeah uncharted does look nicer in many ways to MGS4 but they're going for different visual effects and both look gorgeous.
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#129 bungie93
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[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="dhjohns"]

Compare this

[QUOTE="bungie93"] And MGS4 with its low-res textures looks better than Gears of War. As a matter of fact, every PS3 exclusive looks better than every Xbox 360 exclusive.dhjohns

With this:

If you think Gears of War 2 doesn't completley destory MGS4 is graphics, you are in denial. MGS4 was never a technically impressive game. Uncharted looks much better than MGS4.

bungie93

Gotta love SW!!!

I was being sarcastic with my first post. And thank you for quoting only a tiny portion of it.

I only posted the relevant part. I am glad you were being sarcastic. I saw those posts within a few lines of one another, and was like WTF?!?! But I could see someone trying to be serious like that here in SW. No harm no foul. :P

Fair enough, I've made the exact same mistake on System War :P

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#130 gxnhgn739
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they both look almost the same

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#131 Catpee
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[QUOTE="Catpee"]

[QUOTE="Cipher92"]That's because MGS4 has low resolution textures to fit in the ps3's limited ram. Gears 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mgs4Cipher92

It's going to score an 8.5 or 9.0 here, certainly not a 10. I just don't see Gears having the wow factor anymore to warrant a perfect. Its going to seem more like a rehash than you think, when its all said and done.

Because MGS4 got a 10 in graphcis?... maybe on gamespot but not many other sites. I think MGS4 got a 10 for hype.

Who cares what you think, this is system wars, only GS scores matter, and you can bookmark this thread. 8.5 or 9.0, no higher for Gears.

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#132 MuffinPunk
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All that matters is that on November 7th, anyone with a 360 will be enjoying Gears of War 2, and everyone else will not.
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#133 ApocalypseXIVV
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[QUOTE="Cipher92"][QUOTE="Catpee"]

[QUOTE="Cipher92"]That's because MGS4 has low resolution textures to fit in the ps3's limited ram. Gears 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mgs4Catpee

It's going to score an 8.5 or 9.0 here, certainly not a 10. I just don't see Gears having the wow factor anymore to warrant a perfect. Its going to seem more like a rehash than you think, when its all said and done.

Because MGS4 got a 10 in graphcis?... maybe on gamespot but not many other sites. I think MGS4 got a 10 for hype.

Who cares what you think, this is system wars, only GS scores matter, and you can bookmark this thread. 8.5 or 9.0, no higher for Gears.

yea because a 9.0 would be soooo terrible...

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#134 DRob69
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strong fail in this thread

the idiot posted a video that proved his point wrong LOL

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#135 sleepingzzz
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[QUOTE="Catpee"][QUOTE="Cipher92"][QUOTE="Catpee"]

[QUOTE="Cipher92"]That's because MGS4 has low resolution textures to fit in the ps3's limited ram. Gears 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mgs4ApocalypseXIVV

It's going to score an 8.5 or 9.0 here, certainly not a 10. I just don't see Gears having the wow factor anymore to warrant a perfect. Its going to seem more like a rehash than you think, when its all said and done.

Because MGS4 got a 10 in graphcis?... maybe on gamespot but not many other sites. I think MGS4 got a 10 for hype.

Who cares what you think, this is system wars, only GS scores matter, and you can bookmark this thread. 8.5 or 9.0, no higher for Gears.

yea because a 9.0 would be soooo terrible...

The amount of posts about Gears just shows the amount of jealous cows out there. If they didn't care they wouldn't be posting or making 50 threads about it per day. Ever response is with them posting LOL and hahaaha.... but deep down inside they are sobing and holding in their tears.

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#136 Catpee
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Who said it was terrible? I said in plain english I was buying it.

But he said that Gears 2 was...and I quote...">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>" than MGS4, which is rubbish. It won't be here, or even close.

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#137 IgorVitaly
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Who said it was terrible? I said in plain english I was buying it.

But he said that Gears 2 was...and I quote...">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>" than MGS4, which is rubbish. It won't be here, or even close.

Catpee

I agree, there should be more >>>>>>> becouse GEars 2 dwarfs MGS4 on so many graphicall and technicall levels MGS4 should be ****d a last-gen game. MGS4 fugly graphic, stupid AI, last-last-gen physics and horrible animations makes its phail even harder.

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#138 GreyFoXX4
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You know making comparisons between MGS4 and Geow 1 or 2 is just crazy. Granted both games are great and caters to 2 different types of gamers. But come on now with some of these made up achievements that Geow has.

1 Animations? Really as far as I've seen not even in same ball park as mgs4, maybe if your talking about that prerendered screen animation of the chainsaw move but other than that animations in geow in my mind aren't even there. Guys move like a hunk of coal and snap, nothing realisitic at all.

2. Linear, Geow is the pure definition of a linear enviroment and linear game, yes mgs4 is technically linear but so many different ways to approach a scenerio its just crazy, also after watching more and more footage of Geow1 and 2, leave KZ2 out of the linear game comments aswell lol.

3. 100's of enemies on the screen in geow? All I've seen is 2 gameplay showings of something like this, and the 1st one with the walker thing the guy shot down and his cross hairs didn't even show a target. The 2nd one was the latest gameplay footage and he shot out of a window at a group of them and then the building collapsed. If he wouldve jumped out of that window and met them head on and fought and could've killed all them let me know. Until then this is pure eye candy and nothing else, you aren't fighting or actually having 100s of enemy on the screen to kill.

4. Boss battles? I've been thinking of getting a 360 and prolly will and prolly will get geow1 and 2 but on Utube I watched some of the boss battles and what I seen was just lame. One the guy just rushed you, tumble and then mark him a couple times. One was a spyder, that just sat there while the guy took on smaller guys, while the spyder sat there and inflicted no harm on him, lame. And finally the main boss battle the guy rushed up to a rock and hid behind it with the main boss directly on the other side and stayed there the whole time until he was dead. Main boss never moved the player never moved from that spot lol. That just sad for a final boss battle.

5. Destructible enviroments? I must have missed something cause I haven't really seen any in geow. But I do remember the building getting blown to bits by raven, and getting hit by debris in mgs4.

6. Dialogue and voice acting? Geow isn't even in the same universe literally lol as mgs4. Some may have been hard for some of you to follow but don't blame the game lol. And some said it was to corny, well even the best movies and games has a lighter side and thats what makes them stand out ie. Half Life 2, Die hard, Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and so on. And chk this out for dialogue

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Bottom line is that mgs4 is the most polished game that I have ever had the privelige to play and that is why it is so great. Not only doing one thing great but everything great and wrapping it up into one game. Great graphics, great animations, great story, great voice acting, great dialogue, great cut scenes, great enviroment, great and memoriable boss battles, different locals and great emotional gameplay. And on and on and that is why it got a 10 and a well deserved 10. Only more and more devs would put that much time to polish a game, and if so this gen wouldn't be so stale.

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#139 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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MGS4 barley looks better then COD4 so Idk why cow's wana hype it like one of the best looking games ever.

And Im not a fan of gears 2 but there is a VERY notciable difference graphically between 1 & 2 cow's just need to take of their fanboy goggles.

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#140 bungie93
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You guys are confusing technical achievement with artistic achievement. Gears of War and UT3 are the most technically impressive console games. Unreal Engine 3 is also the most technically impressive console engine.
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#141 IgorVitaly
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MGS4?

Done... You actually compare it to Gears 2?

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#142 marklarmer
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Only more and more devs would put that much time to polish a game, and if so this gen wouldn't be so stale.

GreyFoXX4

Yeah it would be great, all the AAAs this gen delayed just so devs could 'polish' them. i'd call it 'the GT5 effect'.

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#143 AvIdGaMeR444
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GeOW 2 looks slightly better than GeOW. The graphical difference between a 1st gen Xbox 360 game and a current game are not that big. The graphical difference between a 1st gen SNES game and later SNES games are like night and day. Donkey Kong Country was a HUGE graphical improvement over Super Mario World. I guess my point is that as graphics get more sophisticated, it will get more and more difficult to see graphical upgrades during the course of a console generation.
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#144 qbell
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I cant believe gears looks like a gears game and halo looked like a halo game god of war looks like a god of war game mario looks like a mario game!!!!! this is crazy!!!!! What they should do is take a really crappy game like Hour of victory and make a second one look better!!!!!! (insert KZ2)
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#145 bungie93
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GeOW 2 looks slightly better than GeOW. The graphical difference between a 1st gen Xbox 360 game and a current game are not that big. The graphical difference between a 1st gen SNES game and later SNES games are like night and day. Donkey Kong Country was a HUGE graphical improvement over Super Mario World. I guess my point is that as graphics get more sophisticated, it will get more and more difficult to see graphical upgrades during the course of a console generation. AvIdGaMeR444

Just no.

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#146 GreyFoXX4
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Ok so now I've finally heard someone mention UTIII and Geow together. I've been asking this question on how much they relate to each other graphically forever now lol. And by what I just read then they are comparable right? Now the question is why don't cows ever mention UTIII when talking about graphics in games, it is literally never mention, NEVER. I for one would never put UTIII as a graphic power house or even in the same sentence as mgs4, drakes fortune, GTp, or KZ2. I've got utIII and to me it is nothing special at all, the beginning cutscene is pretty sweet, but not actuall gameplay graphics. Unless the word technical just means textures. And thats why people love to say the technical side of geow is more impressive lol.

I had a guy at work tell me that UTIII and Geow were pretty much the same, and I said if so then I don't know what all the hype is about then.

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#147 diped
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It looks better then gears 1, and if you think that it doesn't look better than mgs4, then I just dont know what to say... other then maybe you need to see an optometrist?
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#149 marklarmer
Member since 2004 • 3883 Posts

" Soo GeoW2 looks almost exactly like the first one"

see kids, this is what we call 'ignorance'

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I'd say more straight up denial

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#150 bungie93
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Ok so now I've finally heard someone mention UTIII and Geow together. I've been asking this question on how much they relate to each other graphically forever now lol. And by what I just read then they are comparable right? Now the question is why don't cows ever mention UTIII when talking about graphics in games, it is literally never mention, NEVER. I for one would never put UTIII as a graphic power house or even in the same sentence as mgs4, drakes fortune, GTp, or KZ2. I've got utIII and to me it is nothing special at all, the beginning cutscene is pretty sweet, but not actuall gameplay graphics. Unless the word technical just means textures. And thats why people love to say the technical side of geow is more impressive lol.

I had a guy at work tell me that UTIII and Geow were pretty much the same, and I said if so then I don't know what all the hype is about then.

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Welcome to system wars. People want the "graphics king" to be exclusive to their system. Unreal Tournament 3 actually is the graphics king now but people don't want to admit it because it is a multi-plat.