Sorry boys and girls FM3 will be the BEST racer on any system this gen PERIOD!!!

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#1 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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No question about it. And NO Forza 3 does not have to have the best graphics. It has had ave decent graphics the past 2 games and it was still the KING. And now it has upped it's graphics. Yet Forza 3 will maintain why it is CHAMP. For best gameplay physics damage model, unmathcedOnline and communtiy and upgrade features. And an insaine paint job feature. Oh wait Drag racing :shock:

So there you have it we all know it is the CHAMP. And will keep it's title belt with ease.

http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2009/253/forza3_12116_screen.jpg

http://spbcar.ru/news/en/i/2009-07-02/forza3jdm_lead.jpg

Look at the wicked paint design OWNAGE AmCRY

http://scrawlfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/forza-3-exclusive-cars.jpg

http://epicbattleaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/forza3golddemo1.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/08/forza3-mustang.jpg

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#2 TecmoGirl
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So? Good for FM3. I still wouldn't buy it.

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#3 DeadMagazines
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Livery editor is the biggest advantage that either game has over the other. It's ridiculous the stuff people can make with that thing. I'm gonna be hiring some art mercs myself :)
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#4 W1ckedGo0se
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Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorry
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#5 Irick_cb
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you would be right, except you aren't.

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#6 PAL360
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Forza2 is my favourite racing game this gen so i see no reason for forza3 to jump to the first place.

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#7 asylumni
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If Forza 3 doesn't have the best graphics, but has the best damage modelling, why are all the pics you showed glamour pics that are better than gameplay and show none of the supposedly superior damage?

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#8 vaderhater
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you would be right, except you aren't.

Irick_cb

Could you elaborate on why he is not right?

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#9 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryW1ckedGo0se

OMG GT never even had an online or damage model until GT 5 how can anyone even say that GT before now was even a sim when compared to Forza 1-2

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#10 Uptown
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Considering I prefer Prologue to FM3 demo, I'd very much doubt id take Forza 3 over GT5

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#11 Hanass
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Nice bullshots you got there.

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#12 Panosola
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Forza 3 is the best and it is a must buy for all the 360 owners.
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#13 Kashiwaba
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Whatever makes you sleep anyway I will pick F3 to have some fun till GT5 is out.

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#14 DeadMagazines
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Nice bullshots you got there.

Hanass
Get over it already. Seriously.
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#15 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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If Forza 3 doesn't have the best graphics, but has the best damage modelling, why are all the pics you showed glamour pics that are better than gameplay and show none of the supposedly superior damage?

asylumni

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B7xcuo5z_5s/SoxQyYisy2I/AAAAAAAAABQ/6agspCLDq2s/s400/forza3crash.jpg

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#16 razgriz_101
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Nice bullshots you got there.

Hanass

yeah lol you should also see how biased he is in his Forza3>>>>>>>NFS shift topic its actually laugh inducing, purely on the basis he thinks the physics were total garbage and only plaayed the demo for 15min going on bout various things and just reeked of pure fanboyism for Forza this topics the same and the bullshots just pretty much back my theory.

Cmon i ask you at least not post bullshots when we have seen its a good looking game but its been bested by NFS and Dirt 2 which are both multiplats :S cause Dirt2's graphics are just phenomenal.

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#17 SionPT
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[QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"]Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryHR_Puff-N-Stuff

OMG GT never even had an online or damage model until GT 5 how can anyone even say that GT before now was even a sim when compared to Forza 1-2

Sorry girl, GT5 will be the BEST racer on any system this gen DOUBLE PERIOD!!!

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#18 johnnyblazed88
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Considering I prefer Prologue to FM3 demo, I'd very much doubt id take Forza 3 over GT5

Uptown

well a 30$ demo should be better then a free one

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#19 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="asylumni"]

If Forza 3 doesn't have the best graphics, but has the best damage modelling, why are all the pics you showed glamour pics that are better than gameplay and show none of the supposedly superior damage?

HR_Puff-N-Stuff

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B7xcuo5z_5s/SoxQyYisy2I/AAAAAAAAABQ/6agspCLDq2s/s400/forza3crash.jpg

get a an actual gameplay footage one for the love of god.....this is another pre-render it just reeks of it xD.

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Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryW1ckedGo0se
GTR on PC is the most realistic up to this point. GT is more arcade than FM and GTR really, so I wouldn't consider it the better sim. Maybe the better game, but as a sim it's far behind in terms of gameplay.

FM3 has customization that no other racer this gen will be able to match, so I'm definitely looking forward to it. The physics and gameplay are also looking to be better than GT5's (based on what we've seen so far), and in a sim that's what matters.

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#21 Ribnarak
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nice bullshot pics. weve seen the real ones.

but there is no denying that f3 wont be fun. ITs gonna be good. TOo bad i dont have a 360 cz i would have gotten it.

Im gonn get gt5 instead tho..

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#22 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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Considering I prefer Prologue to FM3 demo, I'd very much doubt id take Forza 3 over GT5

Uptown

How very slow no damage and that god awful tire screaching sound effects. :oROFL!!!

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1st of all, Forza 3 uses two different models and the lower detailed car model is what is used for gameplay. If you've been to the forza forums then you know what im talking about, also why boast about this when the game is A) not out, and B) Looks likely to be a short lived title. GT has always set the industry standard and that won't change, Nascar,WRC,1080p 60fps with 16 Cars.
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#24 CAlNlAC
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Yeah Forza 3 will be great no doubt but GT5 will be too. I don't really care which ends up best cause I will be playing them both. A lot.

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#25 AndyAlfredo
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Lol at last pic in the first post. I was thinking "WHERE'S THE DRIVER?"

I just played the NFS:Shift demo. I love the cockpit view.

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B) Looks likely to be a short lived title. Adrian_Cloud
I doubt it. The deep customization and online has kept Forza 2 alive to this day. The game is still sprawling in the auction house and race modes. Plus the gameplay is yet to be outdated. The physics are the most realistic in a racing game you'll get on consoles until FM3 is released, so I'm sure with FM3's improvements it'll have a lifespan that's equally as long if not longer. Setting an industry standard due to popularity is one thing, but the GT series has yet to set one for quality (or is that why FM has scored better on average?).
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#27 devilsoultaker2
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lol why do you compare Forza 3 (Sim) with GT5(Arcade)
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lol why do you compare Forza 3 (Sim) with GT5(Arcade)devilsoultaker2

Wow, give some respect. Gran Turismo is the original Sim racer. Back in the PSX days. Definitely not arcade.

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#29 Snagal123
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Dirt 2 is better.

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#30 deuteris
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Are you a cow who switched sides? Forza 3 might be the best, but bragging and bullshots don't prove it.

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#31 Riverwolf007
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personally speaking if past history serves dirt 2 will be more fun

anyone have the feeling that if GT and Forza were not the premere racers that represent their respective consoles nobody would really care that much for either?

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#32 razgriz_101
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lol why do you compare Forza 3 (Sim) with GT5(Arcade)devilsoultaker2

If both games have their respective simulation modes on they will be more realistic.And besides GT5 looks like its evolved a lot from prologue and we cannot really comment on GT5 yet as its release is still 6months away do you have a time machine and came back saying its an arcade racer? seriously we cant comment fully on GT5 as most likely theres very few people on this board who have played a gamescon or TGS build of it.

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#33 Uptown
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[QUOTE="Uptown"]

Considering I prefer Prologue to FM3 demo, I'd very much doubt id take Forza 3 over GT5

johnnyblazed88

well a 30$ demo should be better then a free one

But Prologue had no damage model, incomplete graphics, ps2 level environments, no weather effects, no night driving........

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[QUOTE="devilsoultaker2"]lol why do you compare Forza 3 (Sim) with GT5(Arcade)AndyAlfredo

Wow, give some respect. Gran Turismo is the original Sim racer. Back in the PSX days. Definitely not arcade.

Sim !!!
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[QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"]Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorrySaturos3091

GTR on PC is the most realistic up to this point. GT is more arcade than FM and GTR really, so I wouldn't consider it the better sim. Maybe the better game, but as a sim it's far behind in terms of gameplay.

FM3 has customization that no other racer this gen will be able to match, so I'm definitely looking forward to it. The physics and gameplay are also looking to be better than GT5's (based on what we've seen so far), and in a sim that's what matters.

I couldn't agree more with your post….The only thing I would disagree on is GTR....

Don't get me wrong GTR/2 is a fine game and spot on accurate.....but I feel Rfactor and iracing are the two battling for the most accurate..

What I really want is a new build for GTR3 that incorporates RTR…….This looks very promising andI look foward to how they apply thenew tech

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#36 Phoenix534
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Nope. So far, DiRT 2. But truely, I think Gran Turismo 5 will beat Forza Motorsport 3. They've had a team working on it for around four years. And Sony has the NASCAR license now, so there is another amazing feature in the game. And I believe GT5 will also have Formula 1.

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#37 johnnyblazed88
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

Considering I prefer Prologue to FM3 demo, I'd very much doubt id take Forza 3 over GT5

Uptown

well a 30$ demo should be better then a free one

But Prologue had no damage model, incomplete graphics, ps2 level environments, no weather effects, no night driving........

and crappier controlls

thats why i prefer forza 3

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#38 Classic24
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the reason why forza 3 gets hated on is because of the lying the developers did lol 10 times the polygons and it looks pretty ugly lol please

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#39 asylumni
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Setting an industry standard due to popularity is one thing, but the GT series has yet to set one for quality (or is that why FM has scored better on average?).Saturos3091

Scored better on average? Forza has scored 92 and 90 on Metacritic. GT had scored 96 93 95 and 89 on the main games. Who's setting the standard?

Besides, scoring better on the whole does not mean every aspect is better. Forza's higher score than GT 4 could've been due to including online and painting, not necessarily that the driving physics were any better. It could also be due to the fact that GT 4 only added more to the series and didn't make any real gameplay advancements thus hurting its score.

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#40 Uptown
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[QUOTE="Uptown"]

[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

well a 30$ demo should be better then a free one

johnnyblazed88

But Prologue had no damage model, incomplete graphics, ps2 level environments, no weather effects, no night driving........

and crappier controlls

thats why i prefer forza 3

No such thing as crappy with a racing wheel.

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#41 XanderZane
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So? Good for FM3. I still wouldn't buy it.

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Your loss. GT5 was never a true racing sim. GTR was a better racing sim then GT5. GT only simulated the physics of the cars and the look. It never include damage, terrain, drag, weather or bumping into walls and other cars within those physics of the car you're driving. They weren't realistic when you interact with the environments or other cars. Forza 3 includes all those things, plus the damage. The customization blows GT5 away. FM3 wins easily. GT5 may have the graphics and more cars online, but everything Forza 3 dominates in.
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#42 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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Nope. So far, DiRT 2. But truely, I think Gran Turismo 5 will beat Forza Motorsport 3. They've had a team working on it for around four years. And Sony has the NASCAR license now, so there is another amazing feature in the game. And I believe GT5 will also have Formula 1.

Phoenix534

You can have Nascar and formola 1 all day long. You aint got better online communtiy upgrades paint drag racing auction house damage model

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#43 XanderZane
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Nope. So far, DiRT 2. But truely, I think Gran Turismo 5 will beat Forza Motorsport 3. They've had a team working on it for around four years. And Sony has the NASCAR license now, so there is another amazing feature in the game. And I believe GT5 will also have Formula 1.

Phoenix534
No one cares about Nascar, that's why EA dumped it. lol!! There were only 1 or 2 Nascar games that I've played that were actually fun and then were on the PS2 and XBox many years back.
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#44 asylumni
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[QUOTE="asylumni"]

If Forza 3 doesn't have the best graphics, but has the best damage modelling, why are all the pics you showed glamour pics that are better than gameplay and show none of the supposedly superior damage?

HR_Puff-N-Stuff

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B7xcuo5z_5s/SoxQyYisy2I/AAAAAAAAABQ/6agspCLDq2s/s400/forza3crash.jpg

Ok, that's a start. But I was hoping for a few pictures that you could actually see what was going on. It looks like the Porsche's(?) hood is bent up a little and there's a detatched rear bumper maybe from the ?(NSX?- hard to tell shaded out like that). This the extent?

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#45 masiisam
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And I believe GT5 will also have Formula 1.

Phoenix534

Codemaster has had the exclusive F1 license for about 8 months now. F1 won't be in GT5. Codemaster has a F1 specific game coming out next year….All eyes are on them to not screw that up…

I hope they pull it off with flying colors...

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#46 Kenbo325
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Looks fantastic.
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#47 AndyAlfredo
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[QUOTE="AndyAlfredo"]

[QUOTE="devilsoultaker2"]lol why do you compare Forza 3 (Sim) with GT5(Arcade)devilsoultaker2

Wow, give some respect. Gran Turismo is the original Sim racer. Back in the PSX days. Definitely not arcade.

Sim !!!

Umm, you would never win a race like that unless you had a superior car.

Nice shot at me, hits me real deep, you know. I never said GT was superior, just that GT wasn't arcade.

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#48 warmaster670
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These GT/Forza fanboys are worse than the console fanboys here, guess what? BOTH your games suck!

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#49 Classic24
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can someone post the gif with forza 3 grinding like a skateboard on the rails??? please

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#50 AndyAlfredo
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"terrain, drag, weather or bumping into walls and other cars within those physics of the car you're driving"

Has anyone here ever played an earlier GT? They have all of those. Granted the physics when bumping into walls and cars isn't great. They had rally races, which accounts for terrain (they had snow and dirt) and weather (they had wet roads). And drag was one of things you worried about in the huge plethora of customization possibilties. You could seriously customize almost everything on the car.