Sorry boys and girls FM3 will be the BEST racer on any system this gen PERIOD!!!

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#51 masiisam
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can someone post the gif with forza 3 grinding like a skateboard on the rails??? please

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I got yea covered!!!

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#52 djsifer01
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Sorry TC, but no it wont. GT5>>>FM3 period.
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Pimp_Dogg...is that you?
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#54 Phoenix534
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Nope. So far, DiRT 2. But truely, I think Gran Turismo 5 will beat Forza Motorsport 3. They've had a team working on it for around four years. And Sony has the NASCAR license now, so there is another amazing feature in the game. And I believe GT5 will also have Formula 1.

HR_Puff-N-Stuff

You can have Nascar and formola 1 all day long. You aint got better online communtiy upgrades paint drag racing auction house damage model

The online will be fine, painting is sacrificed for better racing, auction house isn't something I care about, and it's not like we don't have damage in Gran Turismo 5.

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#55 TintedEyes
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Except its not.
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#56 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Nope. So far, DiRT 2. But truely, I think Gran Turismo 5 will beat Forza Motorsport 3. They've had a team working on it for around four years. And Sony has the NASCAR license now, so there is another amazing feature in the game. And I believe GT5 will also have Formula 1.

XanderZane

No one cares about Nascar, that's why EA dumped it. lol!! There were only 1 or 2 Nascar games that I've played that were actually fun and then were on the PS2 and XBox many years back.

That's because EA doesn't know how to make racing games. Polyphony is a racing game maker. Thus, it'll improve NASCAR tenfold.

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#57 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

And I believe GT5 will also have Formula 1.

masiisam

Codemaster has had the exclusive F1 license for about 8 months now. F1 won't be in GT5. Codemaster has a F1 specific game coming out next year….All eyes are on them to not screw that up…

I hope they pull it off with flying colors...

Ah. I could've sworn Polyphony said that we would have F1. Oh well. Codemasters will use it much better. Codemasters makes the best sims out there.

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#58 kramer_inc
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Wow and yet another opinion passed off as if was a fact. It's call personal preference. until they are released and a true comparision can be done. I'm sure there will be more of these threads as dumb as they are. :D

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#59 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Nope. So far, DiRT 2. But truely, I think Gran Turismo 5 will beat Forza Motorsport 3. They've had a team working on it for around four years. And Sony has the NASCAR license now, so there is another amazing feature in the game. And I believe GT5 will also have Formula 1.

Phoenix534

No one cares about Nascar, that's why EA dumped it. lol!! There were only 1 or 2 Nascar games that I've played that were actually fun and then were on the PS2 and XBox many years back.

That's because EA doesn't know how to make racing games. Polyphony is a racing game maker. Thus, it'll improve NASCAR tenfold.

Yeah ok right:roll:

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#60 devilsoultaker2
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can someone post the gif with forza 3 grinding like a skateboard on the rails??? please

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#61 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

[QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"]Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorrymasiisam

GTR on PC is the most realistic up to this point. GT is more arcade than FM and GTR really, so I wouldn't consider it the better sim. Maybe the better game, but as a sim it's far behind in terms of gameplay.

FM3 has customization that no other racer this gen will be able to match, so I'm definitely looking forward to it. The physics and gameplay are also looking to be better than GT5's (based on what we've seen so far), and in a sim that's what matters.

I couldn't agree more with your post….The only thing I would disagree on is GTR....

Don't get me wrong GTR/2 is a fine game and spot on accurate.....but I feel Rfactor and iracing are the two battling for the most accurate..

What I really want is a new build for GTR3 that incorporates RTR…….This looks very promising andI look foward to how they apply thenew tech

I don't know much about Rfactor and iracing so I can't really comment. But that RTR game does look very promising. Hopefully it's well done. I want to see more great sim racers.

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#62 Saturos3091
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can someone post the gif with forza 3 grinding like a skateboard on the rails??? please

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You do know that was from a developer interview in debug mode to show off the rollover feature right? People love to jump to conclusions these days...
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#63 Leo-Magic
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So? Good for FM3. I still wouldn't buy it.

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so?who care if you dont buy it.
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#64 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

And I believe GT5 will also have Formula 1.

Phoenix534

Codemaster has had the exclusive F1 license for about 8 months now. F1 won't be in GT5. Codemaster has a F1 specific game coming out next year….All eyes are on them to not screw that up…

I hope they pull it off with flying colors...

Ah. I could've sworn Polyphony said that we would have F1. Oh well. Codemasters will use it much better. Codemasters makes the best sims out there.

You could have heard Sony/Poly say that before they lost the license to Codies…In fact I am sure yea did …GT5P did have the F2007 and they probably had full intentions of representing the entire field..

I don't agree with Codies being the best SIM developer out there..That would go to Simbin/ iMs / LFS Team / etc.

Don't get me wrong…. I love Coadies games..,but they are not proper SIMs..

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#65 Leo-Magic
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Forza3 definitely does not have the best graphic, but consider it of only 2 years making, this game is superb compare to the 4 years (getting 5th year soon) of GT5.
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#66 TecmoGirl
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So? Good for FM3. I still wouldn't buy it.

XanderZane

Your loss. GT5 was never a true racing sim. GTR was a better racing sim then GT5. GT only simulated the physics of the cars and the look. It never include damage, terrain, drag, weather or bumping into walls and other cars within those physics of the car you're driving. They weren't realistic when you interact with the environments or other cars. Forza 3 includes all those things, plus the damage. The customization blows GT5 away. FM3 wins easily. GT5 may have the graphics and more cars online, but everything Forza 3 dominates in.

Where did that GT mess come from?--I don't care about either one.

Also, it's funny to me that some of you guys argue about crashes as well in these silly little ForzavsGT threads--seriously, who the hell wants to crash? I couldn't care less about how it looks when I do. If anything, why not tell me how to stay in a straight line?

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#67 GTR2addict
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Cool bullshots, bro! seriously now, the best racer on any system this generation will be Race On on PC
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#68 Revolution316
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posting bullshots when we already seen/PLAYED the game it self. nice. post a pic of how the actual game looks with all the jag. and i know its you Pimp_Dog

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#69 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Codemaster has had the exclusive F1 license for about 8 months now. F1 won't be in GT5. Codemaster has a F1 specific game coming out next year….All eyes are on them to not screw that up…

I hope they pull it off with flying colors...

masiisam

Ah. I could've sworn Polyphony said that we would have F1. Oh well. Codemasters will use it much better. Codemasters makes the best sims out there.

You could have heard Sony/Poly say that before they lost the license to Codies…In fact I am sure yea did …GT5P did have the F2007 and they probably had full intentions of representing the entire field..

I don't agree with Codies being the best SIM developer out there..That would go to Simbin/ iMs / LFS Team / etc.

Don't get me wrong…. I love Coadies games..,but they are not proper SIMs..

I agree and SimBin and LFS are highly modable aswell which is a bigger bonus :P and simulate racing even better than both GT5 and Forza 3 even though they dont look as good when it comes to the actual nitty gritty they are better.

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#70 GeneralHawx
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[QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"]Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryHR_Puff-N-Stuff

OMG GT never even had an online or damage model until GT 5 how can anyone even say that GT before now was even a sim when compared to Forza 1-2

PLZ note that the OLDER GT VERSIONS were developed for the PLAYSTATION 2! which only have so much capability and THE XBOX THE ORIGINAL w had a better graphic system than PS2
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[QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

[QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"]Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryGeneralHawx

OMG GT never even had an online or damage model until GT 5 how can anyone even say that GT before now was even a sim when compared to Forza 1-2

PLZ note that the OLDER GT VERSIONS were developed for the PLAYSTATION 2! which only have so much capability and THE XBOX THE ORIGINAL w had a better graphic system than PS2

the original xbox had a spinoff of a geforce 3 :|
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#72 ps3wizard45
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Motorstorm 1 > FM3 & GT5

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#73 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="GeneralHawx"][QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

OMG GT never even had an online or damage model until GT 5 how can anyone even say that GT before now was even a sim when compared to Forza 1-2

GTR2addict

PLZ note that the OLDER GT VERSIONS were developed for the PLAYSTATION 2! which only have so much capability and THE XBOX THE ORIGINAL w had a better graphic system than PS2

the original xbox had a spinoff of a geforce 3 :|

in terms of sheer power it was much better than PS2, it was a 800mhz Pent3 spinoff and an Nvidia Geforce 3.PS2 was a lot lower and coupled with the fact the Xbox used directX api's i was surprised at the amount of cruddy ports it got even though i owned both last gen.

It was not always used to its max sometimes, also i feel its lifespan was cut far too short i got my xbox in late 03 and was a little miffed how quick support faded for the system.

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#74 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"] GTR on PC is the most realistic up to this point. GT is more arcade than FM and GTR really, so I wouldn't consider it the better sim. Maybe the better game, but as a sim it's far behind in terms of gameplay.

FM3 has customization that no other racer this gen will be able to match, so I'm definitely looking forward to it. The physics and gameplay are also looking to be better than GT5's (based on what we've seen so far), and in a sim that's what matters.

Saturos3091

I couldn't agree more with your post….The only thing I would disagree on is GTR....

Don't get me wrong GTR/2 is a fine game and spot on accurate.....but I feel Rfactor and iracing are the two battling for the most accurate..

What I really want is a new build for GTR3 that incorporates RTR…….This looks very promising andI look foward to how they apply thenew tech

I don't know much about Rfactor and iracing so I can't really comment. But that RTR game does look very promising. Hopefully it's well done. I want to see more great sim racers.

The interesting thing is they appear to want to license the Tech out..say to Poly/T10 etc…

I think in the next few years we will see a lot more proper sims (LFS2/GTR3/Rfactor2) and they will be epic…

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#75 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Codemaster has had the exclusive F1 license for about 8 months now. F1 won't be in GT5. Codemaster has a F1 specific game coming out next year….All eyes are on them to not screw that up…

I hope they pull it off with flying colors...

masiisam

Ah. I could've sworn Polyphony said that we would have F1. Oh well. Codemasters will use it much better. Codemasters makes the best sims out there.

You could have heard Sony/Poly say that before they lost the license to Codies…In fact I am sure yea did …GT5P did have the F2007 and they probably had full intentions of representing the entire field..

I don't agree with Codies being the best SIM developer out there..That would go to Simbin/ iMs / LFS Team / etc.

Don't get me wrong…. I love Coadies games..,but they are not proper SIMs..

Crap. I don't know why, but I'm constantly confusing Codemasters and SimBin. SimBin is the best, IMO.

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Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryW1ckedGo0se
I considered GT to be the best for a while too. But when Forza came out then the title was up in the air for me. GT lost it's claim to being "king" a while ago. I'm not saying that Forza is the king, but instead that GT isn't...at least not right now.
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#77 Menalque2
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In the end, anybody who owns both a PS3 and 360 and has a trace of good sense should buy both FM3 and GT5.

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#78 Phoenix534
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In the end, anybody who owns both a PS3 and 360 and has a trace of good sense should buy both FM3 and GT5.

Menalque2

I whole-heartedly agree with this. Both will be incredible console sims.

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[QUOTE="devilsoultaker2"][QUOTE="AndyAlfredo"]

lol why do you compare Forza 3 (Sim) with GT5(Arcade)devilsoultaker2

Wow, give some respect. Gran Turismo is the original Sim racer. Back in the PSX days. Definitely not arcade.

Sim !!!

You can do that in any racing game even forza i dont see your point
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#80 Gta3-fan334
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I wouldn't say FM3 will be the best racer on any system this gen. I would, however, say it will more likely outscore GT5.

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Well, I have played to death GT1, 2,3 and 4 and 5 prologue. GT was certainly the king then. But Forza combines the accessibily of arcade racer yet retains the sim-style driving of GT5 and then some.

I will list all the pluses i know of both games

GT5----------------

700+ Roster of cars

Amazing HD

AWESOME graphics

Big variety of car classes and types

Interior Mode is brilliant

Realistic Physical damage system

Cars are modeled extremly detailed (MOST DETAIL IN CARS EVER)

Realistic Pit stop action

Rally racing

Realistic Simulation style handling

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Forza----------------------

A roster of 400 cars

Great enviroments

The track arrows guides are pioneered by the series and still the best ( Dont say its for wusses cuz u can turn it off)

Great tracks that combine both fictional and real

Drag races

Rewind feature(even better and easier to use the dirt)

Cars are modelled beutifully

Both Physicall and visual damage modelling

Debirs that goes all over the cars

Rollover and huge car pileups

Accessibility mixed with Simulation

-----------------------------------------------

I Guess its what you prefer or what console you have but for me Forza Motorsport 3 is my pick out of the bunch. Plus, We will be playing Forza while GT5 will still be waiting to come out:D

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#82 2mrw
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Boys and Girls???!!!! are you trying to score here in system wars???

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#83 jakehouston88
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First off those are all Bullshots, secondly GT5 will be BETTER. PERIOD!!! Sorry.

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#84 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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Motorstorm 1 > FM3 & GT5

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Motorstorm 1 > FM3 & GT5

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ROFL This post just made my day :D

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#86 Gamerz1569
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Too bad it will look all jaggied in game.

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#87 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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First off those are all Bullshots, secondly GT5 will be BETTER. PERIOD!!! Sorry.

;)

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They are not bullshots

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[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="GeneralHawx"] PLZ note that the OLDER GT VERSIONS were developed for the PLAYSTATION 2! which only have so much capability and THE XBOX THE ORIGINAL w had a better graphic system than PS2razgriz_101

the original xbox had a spinoff of a geforce 3 :|

in terms of sheer power it was much better than PS2, it was a 800mhz Pent3 spinoff and an Nvidia Geforce 3.PS2 was a lot lower and coupled with the fact the Xbox used directX api's i was surprised at the amount of cruddy ports it got even though i owned both last gen.

It was not always used to its max sometimes, also i feel its lifespan was cut far too short i got my xbox in late 03 and was a little miffed how quick support faded for the system.

exactly which gives the system more capabilities
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#89 HR_Puff-N-Stuff
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Too bad it will look all jaggied in game.

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What kind of TV do you play on becuase it's not any AA issues on my TV in Forza 3. Looks really good.

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#90 makincopies
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lol all those pictures you posted are bullshots
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#91 washd123
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being a better racer depends on your definition of what makes a good racing game

neither GT5 or F3 are good sims though

that goes to GTRevolution and RACEon.

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#92 OreoMilkshake
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I bet it won't outscore Mario Kart DS.
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#93 metalguitar13
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[QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

No question about it. And NO Forza 3 does not have to have the best graphics. It has had ave decent graphics the past 2 games and it was still the KING. And now it has upped it's graphics. Yet Forza 3 will maintain why it is CHAMP. For best gameplay physics damage model, unmathcedOnline and communtiy and upgrade features. And an insaine paint job feature. Oh wait Drag racing :shock:

So there you have it we all know it is the CHAMP. And will keep it's title belt with ease.

http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2009/253/forza3_12116_screen.jpg

http://spbcar.ru/news/en/i/2009-07-02/forza3jdm_lead.jpg

Look at the wicked paint design OWNAGE AmCRY

http://scrawlfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/forza-3-exclusive-cars.jpg

http://epicbattleaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/forza3golddemo1.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/08/forza3-mustang.jpg

forza-3-oxcgn-84.jpg image by dbold6

Nice bullshots, too bad GT5 will win and FM3 with suck.
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#94 Evz0rz
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

First off those are all Bullshots, secondly GT5 will be BETTER. PERIOD!!! Sorry.

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They are not bullshots

Look I'm really excited for Forza 3...I think it looks good...but those first shots you posted are bullshots. There will be no racing game that looks that clean in-game this gen..I promise

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#95 washd123
Member since 2003 • 3418 Posts

what does it matter if theyre bullshots or done in MS paint or w.e. it has nothing to do with the quality of the game

considering as sims both suck

as racing games well it depends what you consider a racing game

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#96 Leejjohno
Member since 2005 • 13897 Posts

I said it before the demo, and I have said it after; why do people keep posting bullshots of the game? It won't look like that unless you are taking a picture of your car.

It will be the best sim on the 360 though we can rest assured.

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#97 0rin
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Sorry boys and girls FM3 will be the BEST racer on any system this gen PERIOD!!!

No question about it. And NO Forza 3 does not have to have the best graphics. It has had ave decent graphics the past 2 games and it was still the KING. And now it has upped it's graphics. Yet Forza 3 will maintain why it is CHAMP. For best gameplay physics damage model, unmathcedOnline and communtiy and upgrade features. And an insaine paint job feature. Oh wait Drag racing :shock:

So there you have it we all know it is the CHAMP. And will keep it's title belt with ease.HR_Puff-N-Stuff




Can you tell me what score it gets on GS? Also, can I get the winning lotto numbers? I mean really. How can you make such bold statements when it's real competition isn't even finished yet. (in fact, at TGS they were saying it's only 65% complete). Can we hold off on the wild speculations about this gen until this gen is actually over? Again, FM3 looks absolutely amazing. Definitely racing GOTY '09. But GT5 will probably, possibly get GOTY for '10. So... whatever. Besides, why are you so eager to proclaim a game "best of the generation on any system"? sounds like fanboy trolling to me. :/

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#98 Ninja-Hippo
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Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryW1ckedGo0se
Dont know what made-up standards we're using here, but Forza 1 was better than GT4 and Forza 2 is pretty much the only genuine sim on consoles right now.... so how exactly does GT hold the crown? :?
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#99 OneLazyAsian
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Best racer? Nope, sorry. PC games already crushed Forza 3.
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#100 psn8214
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I am quite sure it will be a good game, but I don't think anyone should call it the 'best' racer until they've actually played it...