Sorry boys and girls FM3 will be the BEST racer on any system this gen PERIOD!!!

[QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"]Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryNinja-Hippo

It depends on what you value in your sim. GT had a better driving engine but Forza had a better damage engine and online. So if you value driving, GT wins, if you value crashing, Forza wins. You can also go by scores. GT 3 scored higher here and as an average than any Forza game so far.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"]Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryasylumni

It depends on what you value in your sim. GT had a better driving engine but Forza had a better damage engine and online. So if you value driving, GT wins, if you value crashing, Forza wins. You can also go by scores. GT 3 scored higher here and as an average than any Forza game so far.

[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

First off those are all Bullshots, secondly GT5 will be BETTER. PERIOD!!! Sorry.

;)

HR_Puff-N-Stuff

They are not bullshots

:lol:

Yes those are, have you played the Demo?

Plastic toy cars FTW!!!

It depends on what you value in your sim. GT had a better driving engine but Forza had a better damage engine and online. So if you value driving, GT wins, if you value crashing, Forza wins. You can also go by scores. GT 3 scored higher here and as an average than any Forza game so far.

asylumni

if you valued sims you wouldnt be playing GT5 or forza 3

Dont know what made-up standards we're using here, but Forza 1 was better than GT4 and Forza 2 is pretty much the only genuine sim on consoles right now.... so how exactly does GT hold the crown? :?Ninja-Hippo

It depends on what you value in your sim. GT had a better driving engine but Forza had a better damage engine and online. So if you value driving, GT wins, if you value crashing, Forza wins. You can also go by scores. GT 3 scored higher here and as an average than any Forza game so far.

[QUOTE="asylumni"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Dont know what made-up standards we're using here, but Forza 1 was better than GT4 and Forza 2 is pretty much the only genuine sim on consoles right now.... so how exactly does GT hold the crown? :?dreman999

It depends on what you value in your sim. GT had a better driving engine but Forza had a better damage engine and online. So if you value driving, GT wins, if you value crashing, Forza wins. You can also go by scores. GT 3 scored higher here and as an average than any Forza game so far.

Not last gen, it didn't. This gen, perhaps, but you can't win the title until your opponent enters the arena....

I'll need some serious time with both.

[QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"]Its never been King of the Racers... There are very few Racing Sims out there ( only ones I can think of are Gran Turismo and the New Need For Speed Shift which I hear is a racing sim even though I've never played it) and GT holds the crown for Best Racing Sim..., sorryHR_Puff-N-Stuff

OMG GT never even had an online or damage model until GT 5 how can anyone even say that GT before now was even a sim when compared to Forza 1-2

[QUOTE="asylumni"]

It depends on what you value in your sim. GT had a better driving engine but Forza had a better damage engine and online. So if you value driving, GT wins, if you value crashing, Forza wins. You can also go by scores. GT 3 scored higher here and as an average than any Forza game so far.

washd123

if you valued sims you wouldnt be playing GT5 or forza 3

Yes, I keep forgetting. It's either the best or it's garbage.:roll:

So tell me, what is this magical sim that allows me to race some of the cars I've driven like the CRX, RX7, and WRX plus other favorites like the Lotus Elise, Lancer Evo and classic Corvette or even half the cars included in these two games?

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="asylumni"]

It depends on what you value in your sim. GT had a better driving engine but Forza had a better damage engine and online. So if you value driving, GT wins, if you value crashing, Forza wins. You can also go by scores. GT 3 scored higher here and as an average than any Forza game so far.

if you valued sims you wouldnt be playing GT5 or forza 3

Yes, I keep forgetting. It's either the best or it's garbage.:roll:

So tell me, what is this magical sim that allows me to race some of the cars I've driven like the CRX, RX7, and WRX plus other favorites like the Lotus Elise, Lancer Evo and classic Corvette or even half the cars included in these two games?

Yes, I keep forgetting. It's either the best or it's garbage.:roll:

So tell me, what is this magical sim that allows me to race some of the cars I've driven like the CRX, RX7, and WRX plus other favorites like the Lotus Elise, Lancer Evo and classic Corvette or even half the cars included in these two games?

asylumni

when it comes to a sim quality > quantity

iracer is a true racing sim. actualy race drivers use it to train

Prolly GTR hermies love that game.Rza_rectah

well that too. it may offer less cars but its driving mechanics and physics are unrivaled

i wish need for speed shift had more cars, i sort of want to buy it but i heard it has some flaws with some of the modes like drifting, i think ill get it for 30 bucks for sure tho

i wish need for speed shift had more cars, i sort of want to buy it but i heard it has some flaws with some of the modes like drifting, i think ill get it for 30 bucks for sure tho

Classic24

[QUOTE="asylumni"]

Yes, I keep forgetting. It's either the best or it's garbage.:roll:

So tell me, what is this magical sim that allows me to race some of the cars I've driven like the CRX, RX7, and WRX plus other favorites like the Lotus Elise, Lancer Evo and classic Corvette or even half the cars included in these two games?

washd123

when it comes to a sim quality > quantity

iracer is a true racing sim. actualy race drivers use it to train

And iRacing costs $19/month to $156/year for 5 total cars and 7 tracks, plus 10 more cars and 32 more tracks available for purchase, none of which are the cars I listed (and no Nurburgring:( ).

I think I'm better of with Forza 3 (with it's 400 cars), GT 5 (with its ~1000 cars) and the next Race series game.

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="asylumni"]

Yes, I keep forgetting. It's either the best or it's garbage.:roll:

So tell me, what is this magical sim that allows me to race some of the cars I've driven like the CRX, RX7, and WRX plus other favorites like the Lotus Elise, Lancer Evo and classic Corvette or even half the cars included in these two games?

when it comes to a sim quality > quantity

iracer is a true racing sim. actualy race drivers use it to train

And iRacing costs $19/month to $156/year for 5 total cars and 7 tracks, plus 10 more cars and 32 more tracks available for purchase, none of which are the cars I listed (and no Nurburgring:( ).

I think I'm better of with Forza 3 (with it's 400 cars), GT 5 (with its ~1000 cars) and the next Race series game.

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="asylumni"]

Yes, I keep forgetting. It's either the best or it's garbage.:roll:

So tell me, what is this magical sim that allows me to race some of the cars I've driven like the CRX, RX7, and WRX plus other favorites like the Lotus Elise, Lancer Evo and classic Corvette or even half the cars included in these two games?

asylumni

when it comes to a sim quality > quantity

iracer is a true racing sim. actualy race drivers use it to train

And iRacing costs $19/month to $156/year for 5 total cars and 7 tracks, plus 10 more cars and 32 more tracks available for purchase, none of which are the cars I listed (and no Nurburgring:( ).

I think I'm better of with Forza 3 (with it's 400 cars), GT 5 (with its ~1000 cars) and the next Race series game.

ok? what does the cost have to do with anything?

its the better racing sim hands down

as are the games in the GTR and Race series'/

i never said they were better games or racers (because that depends on you standard of what makes a good racer) but that theyre better sims

why are lemmings so arrogant lately?

[QUOTE="asylumni"]

And iRacing costs $19/month to $156/year for 5 total cars and 7 tracks, plus 10 more cars and 32 more tracks available for purchase, none of which are the cars I listed (and no Nurburgring:( ).

I think I'm better of with Forza 3 (with it's 400 cars), GT 5 (with its ~1000 cars) and the next Race series game.

washd123

ok? what does the cost have to do with anything?

its the better racing sim hands down

as are the games in the GTR and Race series'/

i never said they were better games or racers (because that depends on you standard of what makes a good racer) but that theyre better sims

Price relates to value. I am not a professional race driver, I just enjoy sims and I told you what I want in my sim. I never claimed GT or Forza were superior sims to iRacing or GTR/Race, but they do offer things the better sims don't. As long as they do that, they have a spot in my play list. Just because it's not the best, it doesn't mean it's not worth playing. I, for one, play many games that could never be considered close to the best in their genre, and have fun playing them. I'm not going to limit myself to a single game, particularly one that costs three times as much with a fraction of the content, just to say I played the best.

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="asylumni"]

And iRacing costs $19/month to $156/year for 5 total cars and 7 tracks, plus 10 more cars and 32 more tracks available for purchase, none of which are the cars I listed (and no Nurburgring:( ).

I think I'm better of with Forza 3 (with it's 400 cars), GT 5 (with its ~1000 cars) and the next Race series game.

asylumni

ok? what does the cost have to do with anything?

its the better racing sim hands down

as are the games in the GTR and Race series'/

i never said they were better games or racers (because that depends on you standard of what makes a good racer) but that theyre better sims

Price relates to value. I am not a professional race driver, I just enjoy sims and I told you what I want in my sim. I never claimed GT or Forza were superior sims to iRacing or GTR/Race, but they do offer things the better sims don't. As long as they do that, they have a spot in my play list. Just because it's not the best, it doesn't mean it's not worth playing. I, for one, play many games that could never be considered close to the best in their genre, and have fun playing them. I'm not going to limit myself to a single game, particularly one that costs three times as much with a fraction of the content, just to say I played the best.

im not saying you shouldnt play them.

all ive said was they are the best.

value doesnt make a good sim it makes a decent sim that offers a good balance.

my point was if anyone here really cared so much about a sim we wouldnt be here arguing between forza or GT

If it wasn't king the first few times, it probably won't be now.

Motorstorm 1 > FM3 & GT5

ps3wizard45

too bad motorstorm 1 is freakin dead online

im not saying you shouldn't play them.

all ive said was they are the best.

value doesn't make a good sim it makes a decent sim that offers a good balance.

my point was if anyone here really cared so much about a sim we wouldn't be here arguing between forza or GT

washd123

Hmm, I wonder how I got that impression....

if you valued sims you wouldnt be playing GT5 or forza 3

washd123

:?

As far as arguing about GT v Forza, not being the best doesn't mean they are equal. You'll have disagreements over the whole bracket, particularly when they are premier titles for competing platforms.

[QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

First off those are all Bullshots, secondly GT5 will be BETTER. PERIOD!!! Sorry.

;)

They are not bullshots

:lol:

Yes those are, have you played the Demo?

Plastic toy cars FTW!!!

:?

As far as arguing about GT v Forza, not being the best doesn't mean they are equal. You'll have disagreements over the whole bracket, particularly when they are premier titles for competing platforms.

asylumni

my point with that was if the quality of a sim was the most important thing to you forza 3 or GT would be furthest from your mind.

i didnt say they were equal either. but as far as being sims whats the point of arguing that? if both were multiplat no one would care

Sim racing is boring

you would be right, except you aren't.

Irick_cb

you would be right, except you aren't.

Irick_cb

TC makes me ashamed to like forza, for that matter your ruining puff n stuff for me too

[QUOTE="HR_Puff-N-Stuff"]

They are not bullshots

:lol:

Yes those are, have you played the Demo?

Plastic toy cars FTW!!!