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#1 fourseamer4
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Resistance and KZ are solid titles but they're nothing ground breaking. I wish Sony would focus more on what traditionally made them the best console the last two gens. The community isn't there, the controller is awful for it, and your exclusive FPS doesn't compare to the competition. Sony should stick to the games that made their platform recognized instead of trying to imitate the next Halo.

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Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on it
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Time for Sony Partystation. Compatible with all titles under the category of awful. Comes with Sony Wand.

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R2 was a bad Halo knockoff. I liked the first, but R2 really tried to be a Halo.
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Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itWadeFan
I know it's subjective but I just got done playing KZ2 for about an hour, and my left thumb feels cramped and sore. Never had that feeling with the 360's controller and never with KB/M.
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I want to see them making platformers/action/adventure/RPG games, and not just ****y ones. Like most of the RPGs this generation on consoles, excluding Mass Effect.
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#8 Shafftehr
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Even Halo wasn't groundbreaking... It was just really good. While I think Sony is the obvious 2nd console for FPS's, it has put in a *very* solid effort that any serious FPS gamer should pay close attention to. It has some very good FPS's, only on Playstation...
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I want to see them making platformers/action/adventure/RPG games, and not just ****y ones. Like most of the RPGs this generation on consoles, excluding Mass Effect.Lethalhazard

Mass Effect wasn't even the best version on consoles. :?

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Yeah, gotta agree. Their FPS's don't stack up to the competition. I did love Fall of Man, though.

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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itfourseamer4
I know it's subjective but I just got done playing KZ2 for about an hour, and my left thumb feels cramped and sore. Never had that feeling with the 360's controller and never with KB/M.

Well, I blame Guerilla Games for the controls. They were HORRIBLE.
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]I want to see them making platformers/action/adventure/RPG games, and not just ****y ones. Like most of the RPGs this generation on consoles, excluding Mass Effect.fourseamer4

Mass Effect wasn't even the best version on consoles. :?

I know, that's what's sad.
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#13 StealthKnife
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killzone 2 was great
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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"][QUOTE="WadeFan"]Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itWadeFan
I know it's subjective but I just got done playing KZ2 for about an hour, and my left thumb feels cramped and sore. Never had that feeling with the 360's controller and never with KB/M.

Well, I blame Guerilla Games for the controls. They were HORRIBLE.

You should try it with the recently included high precision controls. It is much much better and the patch reversed my opinion on the game totally. As for Sony, strong third-party support made them what they were last gen. Although they still have probably as much support as they've ever had, the competition now has this support too - a major blow to Sony which cannot really be helped.

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#15 Dead-Memories
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Resistance and KZ are solid titles but they're nothing ground breaking. I wish Sony would focus more on what traditionally made them the best console the last two gens. The community isn't there, the controller is awful for it, and your exclusive FPS doesn't compare to the competition. Sony should stick to the games that made their platform recognized instead of trying to imitate the next Halo.

fourseamer4
Compelling arguement, I agree, the DualShock was never meant for shooters, it's just designed absolutely horrible for it.
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Millions of gamers, as well as credible reviewers, would respectfully disagree with you.

But what do we know, after all you did post in SW so it must be true.

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Millions of gamers, as well as credible reviewers, would respectfully disagree with you.

But what do we know, after all you did post in SW so it must be true.

Gxgear
This. That's like saying the 360 shouldn't have fighters. The triggers aren't that bad at all. Stop complaining about stupid things.
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Millions of gamers, as well as credible reviewers, would respectfully disagree with you.

But what do we know, after all you did post in SW so it must be true.

Gxgear
I doubt there's a million daily users for KZ2. And also, TC never said KZ2 was a bad game.
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#19 painguy1
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Sony hasnt had a good FPS, and i dont have a PS3, but one game which im extremely jelous of is MAG. I wish it was coming to the PC.

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#20 finalfantasy94
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The DS3 is fine for shooters and KZ2 is one of my favorite FPS this gen. I sure as hell enjoy it more then COD4. Also just putting it out there KZ2 and Halo are different enough. KZ2 is more grounded while Halo is more arcady. Room for both I say.

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#21 CAPGOD
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Millions of gamers, as well as credible reviewers, would respectfully disagree with you.

But what do we know, after all you did post in SW so it must be true.

xsubtownerx

I doubt there's a million daily users for KZ2. And also, TC never said KZ2 was a bad game.

There was for at least a month after release. Then came the (natural) drop-off as everyone moved back to COD.

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Ehh idk, but ive never really been wow'ed by PS3 FPS games. R2 was good, but it just didnt suck me in like other shooters have like BF2(not that console garbage), Halo 3, and others which im sure i forgot. KZ2 was awful imo those controls ruined the game for me, and i could never really get into it because of that.

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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Millions of gamers, as well as credible reviewers, would respectfully disagree with you.

But what do we know, after all you did post in SW so it must be true.

xsubtownerx

I doubt there's a million daily users for KZ2. And also, TC never said KZ2 was a bad game.

Did I even mention KZ2? You may speculate daily traffic as much as you like, but I know for a fact KZ2 has sold millions of copies.

1. Not every FPS has to be Halo 3

2. Honestly, who gives a crap? All I need is a filled session lobby and I'm good to go.

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#24 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itfourseamer4
I know it's subjective but I just got done playing KZ2 for about an hour, and my left thumb feels cramped and sore. Never had that feeling with the 360's controller and never with KB/M.

Your right it is subjective. I played 3 hours straight today and Ifelt fine.

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#25 AHUGECAT
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This has been historically true

N64 had Turok, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, among others. PS1 had almost nothing.

Xbox had Halo, Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3 and HL 2. PS2 had almost nothing.

Sony is trying real hard to be the Xbox and it is failing because of it.

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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itfourseamer4
I know it's subjective but I just got done playing KZ2 for about an hour, and my left thumb feels cramped and sore. Never had that feeling with the 360's controller and never with KB/M.

Sore/Cramped...What?? I played KillZone2 10 hours straight and I never got sore thumbs... please do not flag this, but you have weak thumbs or i just have stronger thumbs.. one or the other... or both.......later...

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Face-palm.

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#28 xboxps2cube
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advertising is the reason why these games didnt do as well.... they dont throw a 1 billion dollars at advertising like microsoft did with Halo

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#29 finalfantasy94
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This has been historically true

N64 had Turok, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, among others. PS1 had almost nothing.

Xbox had Halo, Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3 and HL 2. PS2 had almost nothing.

Sony is trying real hard to be the Xbox and it is failing because of it.

AHUGECAT

ACtualy its cause the price and they didint have much games once PS3 launched. Thats why they are where they are.

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#30 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This has been historically true

N64 had Turok, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, among others. PS1 had almost nothing.

Xbox had Halo, Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3 and HL 2. PS2 had almost nothing.

Sony is trying real hard to be the Xbox and it is failing because of it.

finalfantasy94

ACtualy its cause the price and they didint have much games once PS3 launched. Thats why they are where they are.

Yes the price, not many games, loss of exclusives, delay of games, not bringing out the franchises everyone wants, etc. etc.

Third console curse.

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#31 cowgriller
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Resistance and KZ are solid titles but they're nothing ground breaking. I wish Sony would focus more on what traditionally made them the best console the last two gens. The community isn't there, the controller is awful for it, and your exclusive FPS doesn't compare to the competition. Sony should stick to the games that made their platform recognized instead of trying to imitate the next Halo.

fourseamer4

going ot with this but, i love the sig man. although, maybe the devil should have the activision logo tattooed to his forhead? just saying. unless he's an EA fan? :?

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Face-palm.

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Not facepalm worthy.
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#34 NYrockinlegend
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Nothing compares to KZ2 on either console, imo. Sure, it wasn't "groundbreaking", but alot of shooters, including COD and Halo, can be considered not "groundbreaking" enough, but it does deliver an experience that I don't feel playing any other shooter. Another shooter worthy of merit on PS3 is Resistance: Fall of Man. It's campaign and online are unmatched by many other shooters. There are other fun shooters for both consoles, but PS3 isn't a failure in the shooters department, and it is in some ways better. The controller's not that bad either, and it's a good fit for me(besides the L2 and R2 buttons, I don't like that they hang from the edge).
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#35 cowgriller
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This has been historically true

N64 had Turok, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, among others. PS1 had almost nothing.

Xbox had Halo, Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3 and HL 2. PS2 had almost nothing.

Sony is trying real hard to be the Xbox and it is failing because of it.

AHUGECAT

ACtualy its cause the price and they didint have much games once PS3 launched. Thats why they are where they are.

Yes the price, not many games, loss of exclusives, delay of games, not bringing out the franchises everyone wants, etc. etc.

Third console curse.

i wouldn't call it the third console curse. it's really poor decision making on sony's part more than anything. not giving the devs actual ps3 devs kits until one year after the launch of the ps3, unwilling to pay to keep games exclusive to the ps franchise when devs ask for some cash to keep it exclusive *cough* assassins creed *cough*, using exotic processors that takes too much and time and money to learn to use. just some more examples of how if you have your head up your ass, you can't hear the people yelling at you to take it out.

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This has been historically true

N64 had Turok, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, among others. PS1 had almost nothing.

Xbox had Halo, Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3 and HL 2. PS2 had almost nothing.

Sony is trying real hard to be the Xbox and it is failing because of it.

AHUGECAT

ACtualy its cause the price and they didint have much games once PS3 launched. Thats why they are where they are.

Yes the price, not many games, loss of exclusives, delay of games, not bringing out the franchises everyone wants, etc. etc.

Third console curse.

You lost me at "not many games". But keep sounding the foghorn of lemdom if you must.
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#37 Ashitaka96
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I would say no console is meant for FPSs, but hey that's me. I still prefer a keyboard and mouse. No matter how you cut it analog sticks ARE harder to use than a K&M with FPSs. Some may like the difficulty, to each their own.
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#38 Panther501
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completly disagree. This gen has shown that Sony can put out some great fps's. Killzone 2 and Resistance were both fantastic and I am very much looking forward to MAG.

I don't understand all the hate for the dualshock. It works great for me. The 360 controller feels weird and has a crappy dpad. Sony's controller just feels right.

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#39 Ashitaka96
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

ACtualy its cause the price and they didint have much games once PS3 launched. Thats why they are where they are.

nervmeister

Yes the price, not many games, loss of exclusives, delay of games, not bringing out the franchises everyone wants, etc. etc.

Third console curse.

You lost me at "not many games". But keep sounding the foghorn of lemdom if you must.

I concur, fanboys should be banished to work in Siberian mines.
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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"][QUOTE="WadeFan"]Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itSuperman559cali

I know it's subjective but I just got done playing KZ2 for about an hour, and my left thumb feels cramped and sore. Never had that feeling with the 360's controller and never with KB/M.

Sore/Cramped...What?? I played KillZone2 10 hours straight and I never got sore thumbs... please do not flag this, but you have weak thumbs or i just have stronger thumbs.. one or the other... or both.......later...

Yep. I don't know if it's because the sticks are too loose or the smaller "dead zone" or the fact I'm not used to it. KB/M is what I've used until I owned my PS3.
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#41 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

ACtualy its cause the price and they didint have much games once PS3 launched. Thats why they are where they are.

nervmeister

Yes the price, not many games, loss of exclusives, delay of games, not bringing out the franchises everyone wants, etc. etc.

Third console curse.

You lost me at "not many games". But keep sounding the foghorn of lemdom if you must.

The PS3 does not have that many quality games, they all start out high but burn out fast.

The PS3, to me, is worth about $100, like the PSP.

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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

ACtualy its cause the price and they didint have much games once PS3 launched. Thats why they are where they are.

Yes the price, not many games, loss of exclusives, delay of games, not bringing out the franchises everyone wants, etc. etc.

Third console curse.

You lost me at "not many games". But keep sounding the foghorn of lemdom if you must.

I will admit we did lose exclusives but look at what we still have.Killzone,Gran Turismo,Resistance,inFamous,etc....Year right.not many games?????really??????
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on ps3 R1 is the trigger not R2. r1 is solid for shooting games. it ALWAYS been r1. from psx, ps2, ps3.

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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Yes the price, not many games, loss of exclusives, delay of games, not bringing out the franchises everyone wants, etc. etc.

Third console curse.

AHUGECAT

You lost me at "not many games". But keep sounding the foghorn of lemdom if you must.

The PS3 does not have that many quality games, they all start out high but burn out fast.

The PS3, to me, is worth about $100, like the PSP.

I like your sig. It's a good way to indicate to people not to take you seriously.

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#45 eo_the_shaman
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i dont know what the controller has anything to do with FPS lol...it has the same amount of buttons as a 360 controller just the analog sticks are next to each other and the D-pad is at the top o.o and killzone 2 is eye candy :)

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#46 SF_KiLLaMaN
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Ehh idk, but ive never really been wow'ed by PS3 FPS games. R2 was good, but it just didnt suck me in like other shooters have like BF2(not that console garbage), Halo 3, and others which im sure i forgot. KZ2 was awful imo those controls ruined the game for me, and i could never really get into it because of that.

Fizzman
you are aware that you can change the controls, right?
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#47 GameHog9
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If thats how you feel, then I guess youll miss out on the great community that is Killzone 2 online ;)

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#48 The__Havoc
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Um RFOM1, RFOM2, and KZ2 are all quality games man.

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#49 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]You lost me at "not many games". But keep sounding the foghorn of lemdom if you must.Gxgear

The PS3 does not have that many quality games, they all start out high but burn out fast.

The PS3, to me, is worth about $100, like the PSP.

I like your sig. It's a good way to indicate to people not to take your seriously.

Pretty much hes a hardcore lem. Nothing he says has merit.

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#50 -Melix-
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Whats wrong with the ps3 controller for fps? :?