Sorry Sony, you just weren't meant for FPS.

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#101 fedor19820
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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itfourseamer4
I know it's subjective but I just got done playing KZ2 for about an hour, and my left thumb feels cramped and sore. Never had that feeling with the 360's controller and never with KB/M.

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#102 dark-warmachine
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http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/11/22/analysis-ps3-vs-xbox-360-controller-comparison/

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#103 Eddie-Vedder
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KZ2 is one of the best FPS's this gen. And the whole PS controller sucking is BS imo, the controller works with ANY genre, the 360 pad is way more limited cause of that horrid Dpad.

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#104 MassiveKaos
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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]

Resistance and KZ are solid titles but they're nothing ground breaking. I wish Sony would focus more on what traditionally made them the best console the last two gens. The community isn't there, the controller is awful for it, and your exclusive FPS doesn't compare to the competition. Sony should stick to the games that made their platform recognized instead of trying to imitate the next Halo.Hexagon_777

Was Sony really not meant to be? Supposed to be? Have they lost it? All those memories so close to me...They just fade away. All this time Sony was pretending, so much for their happy ending.

Lol Avril Lavigne FTW

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#105 fedor19820
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its all on the user i have no problems playing fps games on the ps3 i prefer the ps3 controler over the xbox360 controler (never been a fan of triggers) i enjoy using R1 to shoot(what i dont like is those mulit plat companys that do such a

to say the ps3 is ment to have fps just cause of controler is bs

i can understand people saying resistance 2 is a halo rip off but that has noting to do with the ps3 system or the controler

all that means is ur not a fan of the fps exclusive games that came out on the ps3

am a gamer and i can play fps on both xbox360(cod 4) and ps3 (killzone 2, resistance 2)

i will admit there was no fps worth playing on the ps2 the system could not handle fps like the xbox could but ps3 can handle fps just as good as xbox360

the problem with the cotroler is people are used to only playing fps on xbox360 so when they try one on the ps3 it dont feel right

i could remember when i felt tha way for any game on the xbox it took nba 2k games for me to get used to the xbox controler

i had no problem getting used to the xbox 360 controler since they use the SAME BUTTON LAYOUT THAT THE PS3 HAS other than the analog layout and lack of true trigger buttons

when i play games on each system i just think of button layout(location) rather than the actual button name( Y same as triangle)

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#106 fedor19820
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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"][QUOTE="WadeFan"]Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itfedor19820
I know it's subjective but I just got done playing KZ2 for about an hour, and my left thumb feels cramped and sore. Never had that feeling with the 360's controller and never with KB/M.

thats what happens when ur used to playing fps on xbox360 only

i can play fps i mean i can play ANY GAME on both systems ps3 is better because of digi pad and people will say xbox controler is better because of triggers

as far as analog layout it depends on the user as far what they think is better

when i use the ps3 i can use my both my index and middle fingers to control all L1,L2,R1,R2 when i use the xbox 360 i cant and i have use only my index fingers to control LB,RB,LT,RT so i feel more control on the ps3 but thats just me and it all comes down to the user

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#107 Chutebox
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They're both really great games, that's all I care about.

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#108 Silenthps
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exactly, FPS belong on the wii or pc only.
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#109 aero250
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I agree
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#110 dark-warmachine
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exactly, FPS belong on the wii or pc only. Silenthps
and the ps3 with its wand.

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#111 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]exactly, FPS belong on the wii or pc only. dark-warmachine

and the ps3 with its wand.

With its wand? :oops:

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#112 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Someone must not have played any PC shooters if he believes 360's FPSs resembles anything close to being the standard.

PC shooters are a thing of the past. Playing 4 players with your friends in Halo 3 online or Call of Duty 4 over Xbox Live is the new hotness.

Hey AHUGECAT, you done getting dominated by me through PM's? You never answered my Post I sent, you, Don't make me publically humiliate you. BTW Halo 3 IS a great game...if you want to constantly jump online with 10 year old british kids!

Lol, you call this public? A hardcore sect of room dwellers is what youc all public? And Halo 3 has far far more 10 year old American kids. It's just a better game then Killzone 2, and it seems, sales and critics agree.
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#114 Nick_75_
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Resistance and KZ are solid titles but they're nothing ground breaking. I wish Sony would focus more on what traditionally made them the best console the last two gens. The community isn't there, the controller is awful for it, and your exclusive FPS doesn't compare to the competition. Sony should stick to the games that made their platform recognized instead of trying to imitate the next Halo.

fourseamer4
Killzone 2 is a far better game than Halo 3. So your argument is seriously flawed.
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#115 Zero_epyon
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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itfourseamer4
I know it's subjective but I just got done playing KZ2 for about an hour, and my left thumb feels cramped and sore. Never had that feeling with the 360's controller and never with KB/M.

That's because Killzoe had you working :)
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#116 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]

Resistance and KZ are solid titles but they're nothing ground breaking. I wish Sony would focus more on what traditionally made them the best console the last two gens. The community isn't there, the controller is awful for it, and your exclusive FPS doesn't compare to the competition. Sony should stick to the games that made their platform recognized instead of trying to imitate the next Halo.Nick_75_

Killzone 2 is a far better game than Halo 3. So your argument is seriously flawed.

Come back with that statement when Killzone 2 gets local splitscreen multiplayer.

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#117 fedor19820
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exactly, FPS belong on the wii or pc only. Silenthps

FPS games belong on all systems so everyone can have a chance at playing FPS games not just the once with gaming pc's and wii's

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#118 johnnyblazed88
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Resistance and KZ are solid titles but they're nothing ground breaking. I wish Sony would focus more on what traditionally made them the best console the last two gens. The community isn't there, the controller is awful for it, and your exclusive FPS doesn't compare to the competition. Sony should stick to the games that made their platform recognized instead of trying to imitate the next Halo.

fourseamer4

I really liked KZ2 for the single player, altho it felt pretty small content wise with no split screen and very few MP maps

but yea i thought R2 sucked, i kinda hope they kill that series cuz i definitely wont be picking upthe the 3rd one

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#119 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]

Resistance and KZ are solid titles but they're nothing ground breaking. I wish Sony would focus more on what traditionally made them the best console the last two gens. The community isn't there, the controller is awful for it, and your exclusive FPS doesn't compare to the competition. Sony should stick to the games that made their platform recognized instead of trying to imitate the next Halo.

johnnyblazed88

I really liked KZ2 for the single player, altho it felt pretty small content wise with no split screen and very few MP maps

but yea i thought R2 sucked, i kinda hope they kill that series cuz i definitely wont be picking upthe the 3rd one

You are the third person to have hinted at Resistance 3. Has it been announced already or something?

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#120 johnnyblazed88
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]

Resistance and KZ are solid titles but they're nothing ground breaking. I wish Sony would focus more on what traditionally made them the best console the last two gens. The community isn't there, the controller is awful for it, and your exclusive FPS doesn't compare to the competition. Sony should stick to the games that made their platform recognized instead of trying to imitate the next Halo.

Hexagon_777

I really liked KZ2 for the single player, altho it felt pretty small content wise with no split screen and very few MP maps

but yea i thought R2 sucked, i kinda hope they kill that series cuz i definitely wont be picking upthe the 3rd one

You are the third person to have hinted at Resistance 3. Has it been announced already or something?

no i was just sayingi like insomniac but i hated R2 and would like to see them work on something else

but yei think theres a good chance they might make a Resistance 3

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#121 ActicEdge
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I'm of the mind Sony should do whatever the hell they want. It seems that I'm going to be right on this one.

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#122 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

I really liked KZ2 for the single player, altho it felt pretty small content wise with no split screen and very few MP maps

but yea i thought R2 sucked, i kinda hope they kill that series cuz i definitely wont be picking upthe the 3rd onejohnnyblazed88

You are the third person to have hinted at Resistance 3. Has it been announced already or something?

no i was just sayingi like insomniac but i hated R2 and would like to see them work on something else

but yei think theres a good chance they might make a Resistance 3

So there's nothing certain yet regarding Resistance 3. Thanks for the info. :)

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#123 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

I really liked KZ2 for the single player, altho it felt pretty small content wise with no split screen and very few MP maps

but yea i thought R2 sucked, i kinda hope they kill that series cuz i definitely wont be picking upthe the 3rd one

You are the third person to have hinted at Resistance 3. Has it been announced already or something?

no i was just sayingi like insomniac but i hated R2 and would like to see them work on something else

but yei think theres a good chance they might make a Resistance 3

Insomniac is so much better than resistance, Ive always been a huge fan of R&C and tbh its sad that theyve done so badly with R2... I can understand why theyd want to make Resistance games though, its probably a nice break from ratchet and clank... I hate it though becuase in R2 you get some bits where Insomniac showes through, like the little platforming bits but they just dont work. They should make a new shooter IP which focuses more on platforming, theyre good at that.
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#124 sikanderahmed
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R2 was a bad Halo knockoff. I liked the first, but R2 really tried to be a Halo.bronxxbombers

imo R1 was a complete joke and R2 was fantastic. i dont see how it tried to be halo. a game doesnt have to be ground breaking to be fun. kz2 and R2 are fantastic.

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#125 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]R2 was a bad Halo knockoff. I liked the first, but R2 really tried to be a Halo.sikanderahmed

imo R1 was a complete joke and R2 was fantastic. i dont see how it tried to be halo. a game doesnt have to be ground breaking to be fun. kz2 and R2 are fantastic.

I thought that R1 definately had some better bits in it. The online versus mode seemed better, 40 players was just right and thr maps were great. Cathedral with 20 players on the roof and 20 in the building opposite was brilliant. In R2 though it just didnt feel right. And graphically its not right. Its way too dark, and the colour scheme ruins it imo. Its just too colourful and the environments are horrible to look at.
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#126 R_MAHIL
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my main problem with ps for shooters is the controller. the analog stick is in the wrong place for any game full stop and the triggers on the ps3 control are horrible.
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#127 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]R2 was a bad Halo knockoff. I liked the first, but R2 really tried to be a Halo.NinjaMunkey01

imo R1 was a complete joke and R2 was fantastic. i dont see how it tried to be halo. a game doesnt have to be ground breaking to be fun. kz2 and R2 are fantastic.

I thought that R1 definately had some better bits in it. The online versus mode seemed better, 40 players was just right and thr maps were great. Cathedral with 20 players on the roof and 20 in the building opposite was brilliant. In R2 though it just didnt feel right. And graphically its not right. Its way too dark, and the colour scheme ruins it imo. Its just too colourful and the environments are horrible to look at.

i thought the campaign in both games was horrid. The mp though i think was much better in Resistance 2, seemed better designed and not the cluster fudge the first one was. the coop in Resistance 2 is also nice.
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#128 Wasdie  Moderator
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There hasn't been a groundbreaking FPS since Halo CE, and even some would argue over that.

Sure there have been great ones building off of the gameplay found in others, but nothing groundbreaking.

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#129 mr-krinkles
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DS bad for FPS is BS!

Lol you n00bs, you're just used to the XBox controller from your Halo days, that's all. I've never had a problem with the DS for FPS's.

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#130 Hexagon_777
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DS bad for FPS is BS!

Lol you n00bs, you're just used to the XBox controller from your Halo days, that's all. I've never had a problem with the DS for FPS's.mr-krinkles

True, the Nintendo DS is great for FPS games. It's certainly more accurate for me.

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#131 Archaic8
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I definitely agree that Sony should focus more on what they are best at, and thats not FPS's. We need to see some more quirky Japanese stuff from them in my opinion. SCEJ really need to step up their game and let SCEA take a back seat for a while.

On a more positive note, the FPS's that Sony have been pushing so far have been solid. Nothing groundbreaking, but still solid AAA games. I'd rather take that then nothing.

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#132 Shhadow_Viper
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The silly things I read here know no bounds. Just because an Xbox controller is mildly better does not make the PS controller horrible by any standards. Besides most successful ventures (Halo) are going to be copied by the rest of the industry, that's business 101. People try too hard to paint the competition in a negative light, yet still fail miserably. It's pretty sad.

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#133 hy4k
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]R2 was a bad Halo knockoff. I liked the first, but R2 really tried to be a Halo.sikanderahmed

imo R1 was a complete joke and R2 was fantastic. i dont see how it tried to be halo. a game doesnt have to be ground breaking to be fun. kz2 and R2 are fantastic.

wow i felt the exact same way about resistance 1. would you reccomend trying the second game?
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#134 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

imo R1 was a complete joke and R2 was fantastic. i dont see how it tried to be halo. a game doesnt have to be ground breaking to be fun. kz2 and R2 are fantastic.

jg4xchamp

I thought that R1 definately had some better bits in it. The online versus mode seemed better, 40 players was just right and thr maps were great. Cathedral with 20 players on the roof and 20 in the building opposite was brilliant. In R2 though it just didnt feel right. And graphically its not right. Its way too dark, and the colour scheme ruins it imo. Its just too colourful and the environments are horrible to look at.

i thought the campaign in both games was horrid. The mp though i think was much better in Resistance 2, seemed better designed and not the cluster fudge the first one was. the coop in Resistance 2 is also nice.

Both games campaigns wernt great but with R1 there was nothing to compare it with on the ps3.

Online though I loved the insanity of R1. The cathdral map was just completely crazy. In the cathedral map you could be in that 3 storey building shooting the other team on the roof and grenades and grendade launchers were going off everywhere, people flying when blown up, it was carnage and brilliant.

Then you and 10 others would charge down on the enemy team throwing hedgehog grenades. it wasbrillaint fun.

But in R2 they try to control it, restrain it which just goes against the only thing R1 had for me...

The 8 player co-op is good though.

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#135 slvrraven9
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Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itWadeFan
that trigger is the WORST design on a controller EVER... i mean seriously whoever designed that needs to be drug out and beaten..
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#136 slvrraven9
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the only thing i liked about Resistance was the action. the story sucked and the graphics werent anything to write home about either....

im sorry let me rephrase that, nathan hale just sucked as a main character. what is it with companies making the main character with absolutely NO personality whatsoever?

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#137 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Millions of gamers, as well as credible reviewers, would respectfully disagree with you.

But what do we know, after all you did post in SW so it must be true.

This. That's like saying the 360 shouldn't have fighters. The triggers aren't that bad at all. Stop complaining about stupid things.

weeeeeeeell! its not that it shouldnt have fighters, its just that that GOD AWFUL d pad....was only made to be used by Jesus and pro wrestlers
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#138 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]

the only thing i liked about Resistance was the action. the story sucked and the graphics werent anything to write home about either....

im sorry let me rephrase that, nathan hale just sucked as a main character. what is it with companies making the main character with absolutely NO personality whatsoever?

^^^^ THIS, nathan hale is the worst character ever created. And coming from insomniac, the guys who created Ratchet and clank, Quark and all the others, its pretty appauling.
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#139 Troqe
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Yes, more rpgs, though Insomniac and Guerilla Games probably wanted to make fps games because it's a hell of a lot easier than coming up with something original and you have a better chance of getting money from titles like that.

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#140 Ze_ALEX
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Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itWadeFan
too bad the majority of shooting games don't use the trigger button
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#141 fedor19820
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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]Theyve been a great platformer/adventure company. But their controller is far from horrible for FPS's. I mean seriously, its got a trigger on itslvrraven9
that trigger is the WORST design on a controller EVER... i mean seriously whoever designed that needs to be drug out and beaten..

u must be an xbox fanboy there is nothing wrong with L2,R2 i would not even call them triggers

and if u actually played fps games made by sony or made by a company that put some effort on the port u would know that the good ones use R1 to shoot so u dont have to worry about ur so called worst design for a trigger

i can understand people not being used to the ps3 controlers but thats not a reason to say the xbox controller is better i remember how much i hated the original xbox controller the second controller that was released was better but still didnt like it it was when i was getting my nba 2k games for xbox when i finally got used to xbox controller and the xbox360 was easy for me to pick up cause they used the same button (not analog) layout as the ps2 controller all the ps3 did was take the trigger idea but they were never planing on making the triggers a primary button for shooters like xbox does

to all on this thread there is nothing wrong with the ps3 controllers so if cant use them just stick to ur xbox360

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#142 smartcriminal
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My 20 hours this weekend on Killzone 2 disagrees with you. Not only were my fingers not sore, but i didn't get bored like i did with Halo 3. and yes i have played Halo 3 (check my gamertag)

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#143 L30KinG
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i have no probleam using the ps3 for fps, in fact for me is the opposite, x360 was'nt meant for me to play fps

and if u leamings don;t like then stick with your halo

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#144 W1NGMAN-
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I enjoy KZ2 far more than COD4, and much much more than Halo 3....I also can go back and fourth with the 360 controller and Sixaxis with no problem....is there something wrong with me? :(

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#145 Couth_
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I also can go back and fourth with the 360 controller and Sixaxis with no problem....is there something wrong with me? :(

W1NGMAN-

It's a rare disease. I have it too :(

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#146 Espada12
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]I also can go back and fourth with the 360 controller and Sixaxis with no problem....is there something wrong with me? :(

Couth_

It's a rare disease. I have it too :(

I can do it as well, but I just don't like the control for shooters ;P

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#147 daveg1
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i never can understand all this crap about certain games not being able to be on certain consoles..that kind of crap stop people from buying them.. the controller is awful for fps? thats funny i think a controller is a controller.
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#148 fedor19820
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]I also can go back and fourth with the 360 controller and Sixaxis with no problem....is there something wrong with me? :(

Couth_

It's a rare disease. I have it too :(

lol yeah the disease is called "gamer"

symptoms:

not whining about which system is better

not a fanboy

and always playing good games on both systems

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#149 NielsNL
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Single player (i don't play MP) both Resistance and Killzone were 100x better than Halo 3, not to mention how much better they look and sound than it. The only FPS that's their peer on current gen consoles IMO is COD.

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#150 zyrumtumtuggerm
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So COD4 didn't come out on PS3?