So..tell me again why any serious gamer would own a wii..?

[QUOTE="TurninTricks"]Zelda will probably be the main reason I buy a Wii eventuallySpideR_CentS

[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]lol Zelda is hardcore?! Anyways Wii is not a primary console because it misses out on too many huge multiplats because of weak hardware and lacks online. Still a good console, but a good 2ndary consolemjarantilla

Zelda's more hardcore than Halo 3. :roll:

Because grinding for three days is fun and oh-so-worth my time. No thanks. I'd rather have a 50+ hour game with intelligent puzzles over a brainless straight-line shooter.

Legendary, psshh. :lol:

Why would I want to own a sub standard PC when I can have a high quality one? All the titles you named are mostly on PC, so I ask what is the significance of getting a 360 or PS3 then? For me its like this. You know how you laugh at when the Wii gets a 360 port of a game like Table Tennis? How its the inferior version with watered down visuals and so forth? Thats how I feel when I hold a 360 controller in my hand a play a watered down, lackluster poor man's version of a PC game. You can say the Wii is for casuals if you like. But I will say the 360 and PS3 are for idiots who don't know how to build a PC.Ramadear

[QUOTE="Ramadear"]Why would I want to own a sub standard PC when I can have a high quality one? All the titles you named are mostly on PC, so I ask what is the significance of getting a 360 or PS3 then? For me its like this. You know how you laugh at when the Wii gets a 360 port of a game like Table Tennis? How its the inferior version with watered down visuals and so forth? Thats how I feel when I hold a 360 controller in my hand a play a watered down, lackluster poor man's version of a PC game. You can say the Wii is for casuals if you like. But I will say the 360 and PS3 are for idiots who don't know how to build a PC.JPOBS

A normal gaming system, it typically doesn't have any of the games I generally can find on PC. There for its not in direct competiion with it. 360/PS3 is for people who are afraid to install video cards, ram and prefer the dual analogs over a keyboard and mouse for FPS. Basically you're casual pc users since you're not up to par to build your own.

I think you should rephrase the question to say why would any serious gamer own one console.... Unless this was just obvious flamebait for sheep.

Lucky for me I got a PC, 360, and Wii. Can't get a PS3 just yet..........

I'd put it down to choice and even that's as open as ever.

If you really think about it nobody's screwed if they have a Wii or not. All the list does is point to what gamers, serious gamers, will miss out on with one console, let alone any console by itself.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Ramadear"]Why would I want to own a sub standard PC when I can have a high quality one? All the titles you named are mostly on PC, so I ask what is the significance of getting a 360 or PS3 then? For me its like this. You know how you laugh at when the Wii gets a 360 port of a game like Table Tennis? How its the inferior version with watered down visuals and so forth? Thats how I feel when I hold a 360 controller in my hand a play a watered down, lackluster poor man's version of a PC game. You can say the Wii is for casuals if you like. But I will say the 360 and PS3 are for idiots who don't know how to build a PC.Ramadear

A normal gaming system, it typically doesn't have any of the games I generally can find on PC. There for its not in direct competiion with it. 360/PS3 is for people who are afraid to install video cards, ram and prefer the dual analogs over a keyboard and mouse for FPS. Basically you're casual pc users since you're not up to par to build your own.

Yea keep talking.

Huh, you start off by saying no serious gamer, which i assume is your code word for hardcore gamer, but because you don't want to seem like a fanboy, who only enjoys shallow M rated gore fest games, you change hardcore to serious, would use their Wii as their primary (or only) console, but when you get to the end of your post you lose 'primary' and push 'only.' It seems this is done because you disprove your own point in your post, so you had to change the idea by the end.

Anywho i don't see why this matters to you at all, and the only purpose of you topic that i can see is to flame Wii owners.

[QUOTE="Ramadear"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Ramadear"]Why would I want to own a sub standard PC when I can have a high quality one? All the titles you named are mostly on PC, so I ask what is the significance of getting a 360 or PS3 then? For me its like this. You know how you laugh at when the Wii gets a 360 port of a game like Table Tennis? How its the inferior version with watered down visuals and so forth? Thats how I feel when I hold a 360 controller in my hand a play a watered down, lackluster poor man's version of a PC game. You can say the Wii is for casuals if you like. But I will say the 360 and PS3 are for idiots who don't know how to build a PC.JPOBS

A normal gaming system, it typically doesn't have any of the games I generally can find on PC. There for its not in direct competiion with it. 360/PS3 is for people who are afraid to install video cards, ram and prefer the dual analogs over a keyboard and mouse for FPS. Basically you're casual pc users since you're not up to par to build your own.

Yea keep talking.

Sure, I will. Since you don't seem to get it, probably because you don't want to see you're a casual PC user. The answer is in you original post. Which is essentially "Wii is missing out on multiplatform games" basically games that are on PC. So if they don't have them, but other games such as Metroid, Mario, Zelda, F-Zero and any game that is typically Wii only. Then its not in competition with the PC, since its so vastly different. Which is the reason why I got a Wii, since none of the games that come to the system will never come on PC.

Like I said 360/PS3 is for the simple man who wishes to have a PC and either can't afford one or can't build one on his own. But somehow these players have talked themselves into believing that they are hardcore and anything outside of the 360/PS3 loop is casual. Hate to break it to you, but from the perspective of PC standards you are casual as well. Consoles have ruined good PC franchises.

So yeah, welcome to the casual club Jpobs. I know you probably didn't think you were one, but your one.

beacausepeople are different. be thankfull for that. live and let live

Super Smash Brothers Brawl, SMG, Metroid Prime 3.

Those three games alone are temping me to buy a Wii.

Pics of stuff.....

I am a serious gamer and I can answer that in one question. It has exclusives that won't be on any other system. Mainly Nintendo's games. Not to mention its not as if I have to spend a sizable chunk of change to play these games. So why the hell not? We all know Nintendo makes amazing games, Zelda TP, Metroid Prime Corruption, Super Paper Mario for starters and $250 to play these games isn't a bad deal at all. There are exclusives that the system has NOW.

Blackbond

Nice collection. I think I only got 3/4 of that. Probably because I only played the N64 and Dreamcast (borrowed them from friends alot :D) and don't own them. lol

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Pics of stuff.....

I am a serious gamer and I can answer that in one question. It has exclusives that won't be on any other system. Mainly Nintendo's games. Not to mention its not as if I have to spend a sizable chunk of change to play these games. So why the hell not? We all know Nintendo makes amazing games, Zelda TP, Metroid Prime Corruption, Super Paper Mario for starters and $250 to play these games isn't a bad deal at all. There are exclusives that the system has NOW.

BlaveBrave

Nice collection. I think I only got 3/4 of that. Probably because I only played the N64 and Dreamcast (borrowed them from friends alot :D) and don't own them. lol

That's not even featuring my NES and Genesis games or consoles. I also change all my Xbox dvd cases into black ones hence why there is so few green.

from the perspective of PC standards you are casual as well. Consoles have ruined good PC franchises.

So yeah, welcome to the casual club Jpobs. I know you probably didn't think you were one, but your one.

Ramadear

No arguement there.

why would a serious gamer not own a wii? to be a true gamer you have to own all systems... otherwise you cant play all the games.

i mean my pc and ds are my two most played systems. but my psp, 36o, wii and ps3 are there when they have a cool game i want to play.

why isnt mario strikers on that list ? imo thats the best game on wii right now

as his/her primary (or only) console?

Heres a list of games, by genre, for each console currently released and furture release included. I wont even bother making claims such as "well its obvious that FF13 will be a btter game than Crystal Bearers" I'll just let the games speak for themselves. in some cases I'll combine genres which are very similar or put some games such as Metroid prime in general genres so as not to create an entire genre just for one game.

PS. dont complain about multiplats, its not my fault the wii is a neglected step-child.

FPS/TPS:

360(20): Gears of war, Perfect dark 0, Halo 3, GRAW 1+2, Rainbow 6 Vegas, Call of duty 4, Orange Box, Bioshcok, Call of duty 3, F.E.A.R, army of Two, Kane and Lynch:deadmen, Timeshift, Turok, the Darkness, Frontlines:Fuel of war, Stranglehold, Unreal Tournament 3, Left 4 Dead

PS3 (18): Resistance, Call of duty 3, Call of Duty 4, F.E.A.R, The Darkness, Rainbow 6 Vegas, GRAW 2, Kane & Lynch, Army of Two, Fronline: Fuel of war, Haze, Stranglehold, Orange Box, Killzone 2, Unreal 3, Timeshift, Quake wars, Turok,

Wii (5): Metroid Prime 3, Call of Duty 3, Red Steel, Medal of Honor Heroes 2, resident Evil umbrella chronicles.

RPG/Strategy:

360(11): Oblivion, Kingdom Under Fire: circle of Doom, Lost Odessy, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Two Worlds, Enchanted Arms, Infinite Undiscovery, Fallout 3

PS3 (11): Eye of judgement, Oblivion, FF13, FF Versus 13, Enchanted Arms, Elveon, Star Ocean 4, Disgaea 3, Last remnant, White Knight Story, Fallout 3,

Wii (7): fire emblem, Tales of Symphonia 2, Super Paper mario, Spore, Battalion wars, FF:Crystal Bearers, Monster Hunster 3,

Action/Adventure:

360(19): Star Wars:Force Unleashed, Assassins Creed, GTA IV, Devil may Cry 4, Kameo, Ninja Gaiden 2, Resident Evil 5, Lost Planet, Ace Combat 6, Naruto:Rise of ninja, Saints Row, Saints Row 2, Dead Rising, Overlord, Crackdown, Condemned, Too human, alan Wake, Silent Hill 5,

PS3 (18): Star Wars: force Unleashed, Assassins Creed, GTA IV, Devil may Cry 4, Heavenly Sword, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Uncharted:Drakes fortune, MGS4, Folklore, Warhawk, Lair, Resident Evil 5, Saints Row 2, Silent Hill 5, Lost Planet, Eight days, Heavy rain, Tom clancy's EndWar,

Wii(13): bleach, Twilight Princess, Manhunt 2, Resident Evil 4, Okami, Prince of Persia Rival Swords, Trauma Center:Second Opinion, Trauma Center New blood, Star Wars:Force Unleashed, No more Heroes, Ninja bread Man, Endless Ocean(forever blue), Elebits,

Fighting:

360 (4): Dead Or alive 4, Virtua Fighter 5, Soul Calibur 4, dead or alive 5

PS3 (4): Tekken 5, Tekken 6, Virtua fighter 5, Soul Calibur 4,

Wii (5): Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Naruto clash of ninja revolution, Soul calibur Legends, Guily Gear Accent Core, Mortal Kombat Armaggedon

Platforming:

360 (1): Banjo 3

PS3 (1): Ratchet and Clan: Tools of Destruction

Wii(2): Super Mario Galaxy, Dewy's adventure

Racing:

360 (4): Forza 2, Project Gotham Racing 3, PGR 4, Need for Speed ProStreet

PS3(5): Need for Speed ProStreet, DiRT, Motorstorm, Ridge Racer 7, Gran Turismo 5

Wii (3): Mario Kart wii, Need for Speed ProStreet, Excite Truck

Sports:

360 (8): Madden 08, Madden 07, fifa 08, NBA Live 08, Winning eleven 2008, NHL 08, NBA 2k8, MLB 07 The Show

PS3 (8): Madden 08, Madden 07, Winning eleven 2008, NBA 2k8, NBA Live 08, MLB 07 the show, NHL 08, Fifa 08

Wii(6): Mario and sonic at the Olympics, Mario Soccer, Madden 08, Winning eleven 2008, Madden 07, Fifa 08

Puzzle/Music/Miscellaneous:

360 (4): Guitar Hero 3, Beautiful Katamari, Viva Pinata, Rock Band

PS3(2): Guitar Hero 3, Rock band

Wii (8): Wiifit, Wiiplay, Guitar Hero 3, Zack and Wiki, Mecury meltdown, rayman raving rabbits 1+2, Super Monkey Ball,

So yea...thats the break down. Hit for Hit, genre for genre, game for game, I dont see why any serious gamer would choose the wii as his only console o.0

Thoughts?

JPOBS

Besides, REAL gamers base their opinion of a game on how much they LIKE the game, NOT on what platform the game is on.

exclusives and they're not last gen games in hd.Silenthps

A serious gamer would have it as a secondary console b/c a serious gamer won't miss out on Zelda, MP and Mario. But as a primary console, it's the worst.

Wii simply misses out on too much multiplats to be considered a primary console for most people.

I'm a serious gamer, and seriously... a serious gamer wouldn't own just one console.

Way to many great games on other consoles that are worth owning and not missing out on, no one console offers enough to support my needs in any one genre.

I wouldn't own it as a main console even though I really think it's possible to considering the fact that Metroid Prime 3, Zelda TP and a few other good games already are out. Not to mention that Brawl and Galaxy looks absolutely ....stunning. In fact I think that those two games are the ones that is going to force me to buy a Wii one day.

The only type of serious gamer in my opinion is one that games on a PC. He is technologically very intelligent. He builds, upkeeps and upgrades his own computer to the latest specs so he can play the best games. etc...BumFluff122

But my favorite genre is the fighting genre :(

For anyone that plays 5 games per month any one console isnt enough. I can only own 1 next gen console because I only have time to play one and having two is a waiste of money.

The Wii has a lot of great games now and on the horizon. Only a really avid gamer wouldnt have enough games to play.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Ramadear"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Ramadear"]Why would I want to own a sub standard PC when I can have a high quality one? All the titles you named are mostly on PC, so I ask what is the significance of getting a 360 or PS3 then? For me its like this. You know how you laugh at when the Wii gets a 360 port of a game like Table Tennis? How its the inferior version with watered down visuals and so forth? Thats how I feel when I hold a 360 controller in my hand a play a watered down, lackluster poor man's version of a PC game. You can say the Wii is for casuals if you like. But I will say the 360 and PS3 are for idiots who don't know how to build a PC.Ramadear

A normal gaming system, it typically doesn't have any of the games I generally can find on PC. There for its not in direct competiion with it. 360/PS3 is for people who are afraid to install video cards, ram and prefer the dual analogs over a keyboard and mouse for FPS. Basically you're casual pc users since you're not up to par to build your own.

Yea keep talking.

Sure, I will. Since you don't seem to get it, probably because you don't want to see you're a casual PC user. The answer is in you original post. Which is essentially "Wii is missing out on multiplatform games" basically games that are on PC. So if they don't have them, but other games such as Metroid, Mario, Zelda, F-Zero and any game that is typically Wii only. Then its not in competition with the PC, since its so vastly different. Which is the reason why I got a Wii, since none of the games that come to the system will never come on PC.

Like I said 360/PS3 is for the simple man who wishes to have a PC and either can't afford one or can't build one on his own. But somehow these players have talked themselves into believing that they are hardcore and anything outside of the 360/PS3 loop is casual. Hate to break it to you, but from the perspective of PC standards you are casual as well. Consoles have ruined good PC franchises.

So yeah, welcome to the casual club Jpobs. I know you probably didn't think you were one, but your one.

If you feel a sense of satisfaction because you know (and i concede) that consoles have always been a step down from pc's then thats fine. However, this thread had nothing to do with casual/hardcore gaming. nothing at all.

In fact, i dont even know where you got that from. It was consoles in the first place which made gaming main stream, and the wii is stretching the market even further, i dont know why you're turning this into a "360/ps3 are casual PC's" arguement because it was never about that to begin with.....

And no, none of the console are competing with the PC.

Can't they just buy it as there secondary console and live in peace?cakeorrdeath

Seconded

Only threads ill take seriously are the ones when the TC knows what he is talking about.gamer0100

What is a serious gamer? How do you define a serious gamer?Ollivander

A gamer with no sense of humour.

[QUOTE="Ollivander"]What is a serious gamer? How do you define a serious gamer?Number_1_Gamer

A gamer with no sense of humour.

I lol'd.

[QUOTE="gamer0100"]Only threads ill take seriously are the ones when the TC knows what he is talking about.JPOBS

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="gamer0100"]Only threads ill take seriously are the ones when the TC knows what he is talking about.gamer0100

Why would a hardcore gamer own any console as his/her only console? If you only have one console, you're probably not a hardcore gamer.psycotictaratua

QFT

I own a Wii along with a PS3 and 360 and I consider myself a hardcore gamer because I play video games a lot during the week. Not like some casual gamer who just plays Guitar Hero a couple times a week.

A "Serious Gamer" would own a Wii for first party games and some rare good third party games (like that Wii version of RE4). So called gamers who buy a Wii for Wii Sports are just a joke. If anything buy a Wii for Super Mario Galaxy and SSBB.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Can't they just buy it as there secondary console and live in peace?clone01

You have my opinion right there. The guy spoke for me.