Splinter Cell flops, Alan Wake turns out to be 540p - Year of the 360??

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#1 thetruespin
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The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

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#2 Ninja-Hippo
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A flop is not a bad game. You call yourself a gamer yet attempt to discredit a new release which got a great review here and has received great and superb reviews elsewhere as though it is a failure? Try harder.
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#3 ActicEdge
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Since when did resolution define a games quality (aside from visual quality)? Some of my favourite games are way below HD.

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#4 Fightingfan
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Splinter cell is running on a dreamcast graphics engine and i Don't see people jumping on it? Alan wake personally sounds worth playing i just don't have a 360.
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]A flop is not a bad game. You call yourself a gamer yet attempt to discredit a new release which got a great review here and has received great and superb reviews elsewhere as though it is a failure? Try harder.

I never said it was a bad game, but it flopped by SW standards and by the AAA Hype and graphic king status 360 fans gave it...
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#6 WAIW
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Alan Wake can still be great, just like Halo Reach

We could pick a con of any game and declare that it ruins the system's whole year -- lol, Heavy Rain's voice acting is awful (no, seriously) -- but it doesn't quite work like that

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#7 DeckardLeeVI
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Killzone 2 runs in native 360p

Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D11SLJwRJUU

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Alan Wake can still be great, just like Halo Reach

We could pick a con of any game and declare that it ruins the system's whole year -- lol, Heavy Rain's voice acting is awful (no, seriously) -- but it doesn't quite work like that

WAIW
But Alan Wake has been hyped as a GRAPHICS KING!!!! Do you not remember "TEH jacket?"
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#9 2mrw
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Who said it's the year of the x360 ???? of course aside from lemmings.

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Splinter cell is running on a dreamcast graphics engine and i Don't see people jumping on it? Alan wake personally sounds worth playing i just don't have a 360.Fightingfan

FAIL

Splinter Cell runs on a HEAVILY modified Unreal Tournament 2.5 engine which is a circa 2005 engine.

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#11 ronvalencia
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The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

thetruespin

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-12218-Video-Game-Examiner~y2010m4d17-Alan-Wake-runs-at-720p--Confirmed-via-Remedy

to counter these claims, Remedy has clarified the situation with an official statement on the Alan Wake forums.

Community Manager stated: "The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved

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Since when did people stop caring about Graphics?

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1. alan wake isi 540p according to what? a forum post? :lol:

2. scc is multiplat. claiming ownage over multiplats now? :lol:

3. resolution makes or breaks a game now?

4. mgs4 is also sub-HD :lol:

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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

ronvalencia

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-12218-Video-Game-Examiner~y2010m4d17-Alan-Wake-runs-at-720p--Confirmed-via-Remedy

to counter these claims, Remedy has clarified the situation with an official statement on the Alan Wake forums.

Community Manager stated: "The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved

Sorry dude, that was from a marketing man. Beyond3d has proved this to be incorrect, see thread on this very board. Video compression makes no difference to the tests run by Beyond 3d...
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Who said it's the year of the x360 ???? of course aside from lemmings.

2mrw
Like Cows say 2010 is the year of the PS3 or Sheep say it's the year of the Wii? How is that any different?
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1. alan wake isi 540p according to what? a forum post? :lol:

2. scc is multiplat. claiming ownage over multiplats now? :lol:

3. resolution makes or breaks a game now?

4. mgs4 is also sub-HD :lol:

KarateeeChop

The forum poster you mentioned has been right about every resolution about every upcoming release since... well.. forever. He is very well respected on Beyond3d and has yet to be wrong

MGS is nowhere near as low as AW

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]A flop is not a bad game. You call yourself a gamer yet attempt to discredit a new release which got a great review here and has received great and superb reviews elsewhere as though it is a failure? Try harder. thetruespin
I never said it was a bad game, but it flopped by SW standards and by the AAA Hype and graphic king status 360 fans gave it...

The same could be said of Heavy Rain and WKC as well.

But it seems you're only interested in using the scores for ownage purposes.

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[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Alan Wake can still be great, just like Halo Reach

We could pick a con of any game and declare that it ruins the system's whole year -- lol, Heavy Rain's voice acting is awful (no, seriously) -- but it doesn't quite work like that

thetruespin

But Alan Wake has been hyped as a GRAPHICS KING!!!! Do you not remember "TEH jacket?"

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/32186/t1140135-mgs-4-only-running-in-576p-upscaled/

sure you wanna go down this road?

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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

thetruespin

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-12218-Video-Game-Examiner~y2010m4d17-Alan-Wake-runs-at-720p--Confirmed-via-Remedy

to counter these claims, Remedy has clarified the situation with an official statement on the Alan Wake forums.

Community Manager stated: "The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved

Sorry dude, that was from a marketing man. Beyond3d has proved this to be incorrect, see thread on this very board. Video compression makes no difference to the tests run by Beyond 3d...

If that were the case then the we'd have no need for HD video since it'd look the same either way :D

Think about what you're saying.

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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

thetruespin

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-12218-Video-Game-Examiner~y2010m4d17-Alan-Wake-runs-at-720p--Confirmed-via-Remedy

to counter these claims, Remedy has clarified the situation with an official statement on the Alan Wake forums.

Community Manager stated: "The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved

Sorry dude, that was from a marketing man. Beyond3d has proved this to be incorrect, see thread on this very board. Video compression makes no difference to the tests run by Beyond 3d...

Sorry dude but I'll take the word of the developers of the freaking game over a forum poster any day. :)

We won't know what the game is truly running at until it comes out, now will we?

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#21 themyth01
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The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

thetruespin
Something > nothing.
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]A flop is not a bad game. You call yourself a gamer yet attempt to discredit a new release which got a great review here and has received great and superb reviews elsewhere as though it is a failure? Try harder.

I never said it was a bad game, but it flopped by SW standards and by the AAA Hype and graphic king status 360 fans gave it...

A flop is not an inherently bad thing. You are trying to use the fact that a game flopped to make the 360 appear as though it's having a bad year. In reality, 360 owners just got an excellent game added to its library. Fanboyism is the enemy of reason.
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#24 2mrw
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Splinter cell is running on a dreamcast graphics engine and i Don't see people jumping on it? Alan wake personally sounds worth playing i just don't have a 360.DeckardLeeVI

FAIL

Splinter Cell runs on a HEAVILY modified Unreal Tournament 2.5 engine which is a circa 2005 engine.

"sigh" why are dev. so stupid??? they had enough time to create a new engine or use a better engine at least. the game looks great anyway but why stucking in the past ???
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

1. alan wake isi 540p according to what? a forum post? :lol:

2. scc is multiplat. claiming ownage over multiplats now? :lol:

3. resolution makes or breaks a game now?

4. mgs4 is also sub-HD :lol:

thetruespin

The forum poster you mentioned has been right about every resolution about every upcoming release since... well.. forever. He is very well respected on Beyond3d and has yet to be wrong

MGS is nowhere near as low as AW

LOL wut? mgs4 runs at 576p.

576 > 720 now? LOLOL

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We shall wait for the game to come out to know the real resolution =/ and SC, meh is not really a bad game, a huge disappointment though
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

1. alan wake isi 540p according to what? a forum post? :lol:

2. scc is multiplat. claiming ownage over multiplats now? :lol:

3. resolution makes or breaks a game now?

4. mgs4 is also sub-HD :lol:

KarateeeChop

The forum poster you mentioned has been right about every resolution about every upcoming release since... well.. forever. He is very well respected on Beyond3d and has yet to be wrong

MGS is nowhere near as low as AW

LOL wut? mgs4 runs at 576p.

576 > 720 now? LOLOL

you are wrong about MGS.... do some research...
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#28 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

thetruespin

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-12218-Video-Game-Examiner~y2010m4d17-Alan-Wake-runs-at-720p--Confirmed-via-Remedy

to counter these claims, Remedy has clarified the situation with an official statement on the Alan Wake forums.

Community Manager stated: "The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved

Sorry dude, that was from a marketing man. Beyond3d has proved this to be incorrect, see thread on this very board. Video compression makes no difference to the tests run by Beyond 3d...

http://forum.alanwake.com/showpost.php?p=68521&postcount=10

The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved.

As has said before Videogameszone and Gamepro both released footage without approval and due to the fact that we don't know how many compressions their videos went through or what process they took it's best not to use those videos as sources.

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#29 Giancar
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

themyth01
Something > nothing.

nothing? really? =/
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"] The forum poster you mentioned has been right about every resolution about every upcoming release since... well.. forever. He is very well respected on Beyond3d and has yet to be wrong

MGS is nowhere near as low as AW

thetruespin

LOL wut? mgs4 runs at 576p.

576 > 720 now? LOLOL

you are wrong about MGS.... do some research...

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/32186/t1140135-mgs-4-only-running-in-576p-upscaled/

here's my research

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[QUOTE="thetruespin"] you are wrong about MGS.... do some research...

The exact same people on the exact same website that you are using as a source to say Alan Wake is sub-HD also said that MGS4 was sub-HD and not only that, but ran at the exact same resolution that Alan Wake allegedly runs at.
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The xbox lineage will never have a good console and will (apparently) solely thrive on 2 game franchises, one of which is Halo. So sad.
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#33 93soccer
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Since when did resolution define a games quality (aside from visual quality)? Some of my favourite games are way below HD.

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Didn't you hear? Cows stopped playing MGS4 cause even though it got a 10, it runs sub-HD. That's all cows have for them...graphics (and even that's changing for consoles)
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Bayonetta and Mass Effect 2 being AAA was a good start. Also Alan Wake looks incredible from what i have been watching

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[QUOTE="thetruespin"] you are wrong about MGS.... do some research...Ninja-Hippo
The exact same people on the exact same website that you are using as a source to say Alan Wake is sub-HD also said that MGS4 was sub-HD and not only that, but ran at the exact same resolution that Alan Wake allegedly runs at.

well apparently the beyond3d forum is only credible when it states something anti-360. :lol:

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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

Giancar
Something > nothing.

nothing? really? =/

2 AAAs > 1 AAA, am I right?
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

LOL wut? mgs4 runs at 576p.

576 > 720 now? LOLOL

lawlessx

you are wrong about MGS.... do some research...

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/32186/t1140135-mgs-4-only-running-in-576p-upscaled/

here's my research

so your source is the same as the TC's? he really must've felt that one :lol:
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

1. alan wake isi 540p according to what? a forum post? :lol:

2. scc is multiplat. claiming ownage over multiplats now? :lol:

3. resolution makes or breaks a game now?

4. mgs4 is also sub-HD :lol:

KarateeeChop

The forum poster you mentioned has been right about every resolution about every upcoming release since... well.. forever. He is very well respected on Beyond3d and has yet to be wrong

MGS is nowhere near as low as AW

LOL wut? mgs4 runs at 576p.

576 > 720 now? LOLOL

Just out of curiosity, where did you find out that MGS4 ran at sub-hd?

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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"] you are wrong about MGS.... do some research...ohthemanatee

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/32186/t1140135-mgs-4-only-running-in-576p-upscaled/

here's my research

so your source is the same as the TC's? he really must've felt that one :lol:

im just sitting here waiting for his response for this one.
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"] you are wrong about MGS.... do some research...ohthemanatee

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/32186/t1140135-mgs-4-only-running-in-576p-upscaled/

here's my research

so your source is the same as the TC's? he really must've felt that one :lol:

i just love how this kind of threads always completely backfire...LOL

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#41 themyth01
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

LOL wut? mgs4 runs at 576p.

576 > 720 now? LOLOL

lawlessx

you are wrong about MGS.... do some research...

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/32186/t1140135-mgs-4-only-running-in-576p-upscaled/

here's my research

Oh how dare you rain on his parade, he may have to say MGS4 sucks now.
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#42 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="themyth01"] Something > nothing. themyth01
nothing? really? =/

2 AAAs > 1 AAA, am I right?

playing the SW meta game? nahhhhh (and there are more multi games like BC2 that scored AAA, and you can play Bayonetta still in the ps3) *turns SW meta game on* oh and by your logic AAAe, and a handfull of AAe are nothing? how many exclusives games has gotten the 360 so far? nothing? *turns it off* I can play the game too :o
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="themyth01"] Something > nothing. themyth01
nothing? really? =/

2 AAAs > 1 AAA, am I right?

Correct. Except none of the systems have only 1 AAA.

For 2010 thus far...

PC (14 total, 7 exclusive)
2 AAA
9 AA (4 AAE) (1 expansion)
3 A (3 AE) (1 expansion)

PS3 (19 total, 5 exclusive)
3 AAA (1 AAAE) (1 expansion)
11 AA (4 AAE)
5 A

XBOX 360 (15 total, -1 exclusive)
3 AAA (-1 E)
7 AA
5 A

Wii (9 total, 6 exclusive)
5 AA (3 AAE)
4 A (3 AE)

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#45 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Xbox 360 gets a great game the PS3 and Wii do not. And Alan Wake was confirmed to be 720p.
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#46 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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It's more like year of the stupid forums

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#47 themyth01
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Giancar"] nothing? really? =/

2 AAAs > 1 AAA, am I right?

playing the SW meta game? nahhhhh (and there are more multi games like BC2 that scored AAA, and you can play Bayonetta still in the ps3) *turns SW meta game on* oh and by your logic AAAe, and a handfull of AAe are nothing? how many exclusives games has gotten the 360 so far? nothing? *turns it off* I can play the game too :o

By my logic, AAA = AAA, AA = AA and so on. I look forward to you trying to disprove such logic. So based on that logic, 360 has 2 AAA games not on PS3, PS3 has 1 AAA game not on 360, therefore 360 has x+1 AAA games while PS3 has x AAA games. Now let's turn to your logic. An exclusive means simply that it's only on that one platform. So what relevance does that have if I can still play more AAA games on 360 than on PS3. Or if a game is not exclusive, can I NOT play it if it's on 360?
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I don't even know why people try to say its year of the 360 when none of their games can match that of ps3 games. I mean SC Conviction < MGS4 in terms of points according to GS. and AW doesn't look anywhere near the quality of Uncharted 2 which got a 9.5. How can Lemmings come up with the idea that this is this year? Can't they admit that since MGS4, its been and will always be the year of the 360. The ps3 has been pumping GOTY after GOTY like MGS4, Demons Souls, Uncharted 2 at IGN. I mean its ridiculous how lemmings don't see this and they keep defending their 360s even after they have gone through 4 systems that have RRODed. Do they even have any logic?

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How did Demons souls and Uncharted 2 won GOTY at IGN if they were both launched in the same year?
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#49 themyth01
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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Giancar"] nothing? really? =/shinrabanshou

2 AAAs > 1 AAA, am I right?

Correct. Except none of the systems have only 1 AAA.

For 2010 thus far...

PC (14 total, 7 exclusive)
2 AAA
9 AA (4 AAE) (1 expansion)
3 A (3 AE) (1 expansion)

PS3 (19 total, 5 exclusive)
3 AAA (1 AAAE) (1 expansion)
11 AA (4 AAE)
5 A

XBOX 360 (15 total, -1 exclusive)
3 AAA (-1 E)
7 AA
5 A

Wii (9 total, 6 exclusive)
5 AA (3 AAE)
4 A (3 AE)

Thank you. Let me put it in general terms. XBOX360 has X+1 AAA games whereas PS3 has X AAA games, for X ∈ Natural numbers.

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#50 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="themyth01"] 2 AAAs > 1 AAA, am I right?themyth01
playing the SW meta game? nahhhhh (and there are more multi games like BC2 that scored AAA, and you can play Bayonetta still in the ps3) *turns SW meta game on* oh and by your logic AAAe, and a handfull of AAe are nothing? how many exclusives games has gotten the 360 so far? nothing? *turns it off* I can play the game too :o

By my logic, AAA = AAA, AA = AA and so on. I look forward to you trying to disprove such logic. So based on that logic, 360 has 2 AAA games not on PS3, PS3 has 1 AAA game not on 360, therefore 360 has x+1 AAA games while PS3 has x AAA games. Now let's turn to your logic. An exclusive means simply that it's only on that one platform. So what relevance does that have if I can still play more AAA games on 360 than on PS3. Or if a game is not exclusive, can I NOT play it if it's on 360?

and that is nothing?? lol and Ps3 owners can play the Bayonetta game, and you don't NEED a 360 to play ME2 SW meta game :o o and where are the AA games lems get mention a lot of times? Those just disappeared :o ?