Square Enix engine shows what PS4 can do

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#51 NineTailedGoku
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[QUOTE="ultraking"]look at the small " i " in tailed & in April. Notice how their very small i's........... ALSO notice the " o " in goku and the " o " in bob.. Look the same? cause they are.

 

 

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I'm sorry,  is your constant quoting of those pics an attempt to sweat me or something? :?Tell a mod or something if you feel that strongly about it. :lol Clear differences in the pics. 2010? Rules have changed drastically since then and people have actually fessed up to bandodging and haven't been banned. If I was this person you claim,  I would've said so by now.  Sorry,  not him. Now will your sorry ass stay on topic. 

im not running to a mod so no worries. i just think its funny that you wont admit its you

They wouldn't ban me if you did anyway. There's clear differences in the pics as well as coincidences. I won't admit because it's not me lol. There's people that have fessed up and haven't been banned.  Why would I hide something when I have nothing to be afraid of? You and others are just seeing what you want to see lol. As far as the handwriting,  I'm not the only person that leaves a tiny tail at the top of an o. Who doesn't Dott their small i's:roll:. 

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Are we still hung up on this engine/tech demo? I'll believe it when o see it. If this gen taught me anything it's that the first visuals shown or supposedly what the systems can do are usually are  false.  

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Are we still hung up on this engine/tech demo? I'll believe it when o see it. If this gen taught me anything it's that the first visuals shown or supposedly what the systems can do are usually are  false.  

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They usually surpass the tech demos in some features and fail to deliver on other things
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#54 NineTailedGoku
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Are we still hung up on this engine/tech demo? I'll believe it when o see it. If this gen taught me anything it's that the first visuals shown or supposedly what the systems can do are usually are  false.  

seanmcloughlin

Well the difference is that this engine is real time and has graphical features that's being turned on and off. Don't believe that happened last gen. This is very much in line with what we'll see. 

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Are we still hung up on this engine/tech demo? I'll believe it when o see it. If this gen taught me anything it's that the first visuals shown or supposedly what the systems can do are usually are  false.  

NineTailedGoku

Well the difference is that this engine is real time and has graphical features that's being turned on and off. Don't believe that happened last gen. This is very much in line with what we'll see. 

This tech demo was ran on PC hardware, not the next gen consoles.

Regardless, that argument doesn't really make sense in the first place. Pretty much all video game tech demos are real time demonstrations, in past and current generations. It wouldn't be a tech demo if it was prerendered CGI

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Are we still hung up on this engine/tech demo? I'll believe it when o see it. If this gen taught me anything it's that the first visuals shown or supposedly what the systems can do are usually are  false.  

ferret-gamer

They usually surpass the tech demos in some features and fail to deliver on other things

But it usually takes a while before we see it, like the alfred molina tech demo head, it was a good bit into the gen before we saw anything like that

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#57 NineTailedGoku
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Are we still hung up on this engine/tech demo? I'll believe it when o see it. If this gen taught me anything it's that the first visuals shown or supposedly what the systems can do are usually are  false.  

ferret-gamer

Well the difference is that this engine is real time and has graphical features that's being turned on and off. Don't believe that happened last gen. This is very much in line with what we'll see. 

This tech demo was ran on PC hardware, not the next gen consoles.

Regardless, that argument doesn't really make sense in the first place. Pretty much all video game tech demos are real time demonstrations, in past and current generations. It wouldn't be a tech demo if it was prerendered CGI

Well I guess you have a point there. However, the devs make these engines based on console specs told to them by Sony, MS,  otherwise it will have been a big gamble and a waste of money. Now what we don't know is how the visuals would be affected by game play, AI, etc. Then again,  the demo could be using a fraction of what next gen is capable of. Guess we'll have the final answers will come out in 7 days. 

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#58 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Well the difference is that this engine is real time and has graphical features that's being turned on and off. Don't believe that happened last gen. This is very much in line with what we'll see. 

NineTailedGoku

This tech demo was ran on PC hardware, not the next gen consoles.

Regardless, that argument doesn't really make sense in the first place. Pretty much all video game tech demos are real time demonstrations, in past and current generations. It wouldn't be a tech demo if it was prerendered CGI

Well I guess you have a point there. However, the devs make these engines based on console specs told to them by Sony, MS,  otherwise it will have been a big gamble and a waste of money. Now what we don't know is how the visuals would be affected by game play, AI, etc. Then again,  the demo could be using a fraction of what next gen is capable of. Guess we'll have the final answers will come out in 7 days. 

Not necessarily. Remember Anii and the UE4 demo were released nearly a year ago, and in development well before that, it is extremely unlikely they had very definite console specifications.

Agnii, Ue4 demo, and Samartian are all tech demos showcasing what the developers want and hope they will be able to do on next generation consoles, not necessarily what they will actually be able to do, or what they expected to do with the information they had at the time.

It is kind of like last generation where Epic convinced microsoft to double the ram in the 360 by showing off what UE3 could do with 512mb. The entire purpose of Samartian was basically Epic saying "Look what we can do with this sort of power, you guys should make consoles that can run it"

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#59 MLBknights58
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Don't care about engines, I care about games.

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#60 ronvalencia
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the engine's running on a GTX 680, i7-3770K 3.5GHz and using 1.8GB of Ram. M$'s wasting money on putting 8GB of ram on the 720 instead of a better CPU or GPU.


The Cell's still more powerful than that i7 BTW. Now cry moard herms. :cool:

Gue1

"Cell's still more powerful than that i7" is wrong.

Intel i7-3770K has about 300 GFLOPs from it's 16 IEUs (HD 4000) and it's OpenCL capable. Intel i7-3770K is also an APU.

From http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread.php/305502-Timothy-Lottes-the-creator-of-FXAA-dishes-on-PS4-s-potential

In any case, this Dual ACE system likely makes it practical to port over a large amount of the Killzone SPU jobs to the GPU even if they don't completely fill the GPU

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#61 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

If it's true that Sony is using 4 GB's of GDDR5 for Orbis (at least 3.5 GB's of RAM for games), & if Microsoft is using 8 GB's of DDR3 RAM for Durango, then most of the games on Orbis will definitely blow away most of the games on Durango graphically, especially in 1st/2nd party exclusives of Sony's & when 3rd party developers get used to the tech in Orbis, & also given the fact that Microsoft isn't exactly going to use all 8 GB's of RAM for games.

nextgenjoke

8gb>4gb lol ps3's xdr has more bandwidth than 360s gddr3 and it still fails.

On 4GB GDDR5 vs 8GB DDR3 issue, it depends on the workload.

Xbox Next's DDR3 would be clocked higher than Xbox 360's GDDR3.

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#62 Articuno76
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

L03.jpg

L04.jpg

That's supposed to be a feature? It looks much better without it.

k2theswiss

lol haha

You could also use that effect to help create a sense of climate/time of day. That goes some way towards creating immersion.
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]  .ultraking

wrong thread?

look at the small " i " in tailed & in April. Notice how their very small i's........... ALSO notice the " o " in goku and the " o " in bob.. Look the same? cause they are.

 

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LOLOLOL you bandodging gimp

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#64 RoslindaleOne
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I don't see any similarities. #conspiracy

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Same tv and oh and look under the Xbox 360 in both pics. The same paint chip on the table.

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#65 faizan_faizan
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And? We have no proof consoles will be doing this in real time.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Are we still hung up on this engine/tech demo? I'll believe it when o see it. If this gen taught me anything it's that the first visuals shown or supposedly what the systems can do are usually are  false.  

seanmcloughlin

They usually surpass the tech demos in some features and fail to deliver on other things

But it usually takes a while before we see it, like the alfred molina tech demo head, it was a good bit into the gen before we saw anything like that

We have never seen anything like that

& no pre rendered cutscenes don't count

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Hey TC you do realize that DDR3 is old right????

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#68 gamespot4life
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No game on ps4 or xbox 7620 will ever look as good as that demo in gameplay..... just like nothing on this gen looked as good as the 1st killzone trailer. you people still fall for this crap???

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#69 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]NineTailedGoku

wrong thread?

Fvck off,  stay on topic troll. You'd think I'm the only guy with speakers on the bottom of my tv,and chipped furniture. My walls are salmon,  his are tan. Doesn't prove a damn thing. Different 360s as well. 

Your avatar makes you look like a douche.
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No game on ps4 or xbox 7620 will ever look as good as that demo in gameplay..... just like nothing on this gen looked as good as the 1st killzone trailer. you people still fall for this crap???

gamespot4life
But if these are images that are rendered from Square-Enix's existing engine, then it's likely that games would look like that. Take, for example, the Unreal Engine 3 when it was showcased before the PS3 and Xbox 360 were released; Gears of War was just as impressive at the time. As for the Killzone "tech demo"...I was never fooled by that. I always knew it was a CG trailer...even when the spokesman at E3 claimed it was realtime...I didn't buy it.
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I think as long as we keep them publishing games.

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#72 nameless12345
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The Cell's still more powerful than that i7 BTW. Now cry moard herms.    :cool:

Gue1

 

You are pretty stupid if you think that.

The Cell would stuggle running CPU intensive PC games such as ArmA, Flight Simulator and Total War.

It's not much better than a Pentium 4 Extreme in processing capabilities.

The only things it has in it's favour are the raw FLOPS performance and graphics acceleration capabilities.

But modern PC APUs are better for graphics than Cell ever was and it still wouldn't beat a dedicated "render farm" graphics board in FLOPS. (i.e. Nvidia Tesla series)

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#73 Liquid_
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Do we really want Square Enix to continue making games?percech
as long as its nothing like FF13
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#74 Liquid_
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the xbox 360 can already pull off most of those affects easyily. Not much off a leap i reckon in my opoinon. can see its leap and bounds over PS3 gfx tho so they can finaly catch up at long last.

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Do we really want Square Enix to continue making games?percech
Kingdom Hearts 3... Needs to exist.
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#76 Rocker6
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Looks great and all, but tech demos do have a tendency of looking great, they're strictly controled, everything's pre-made and accounted for. Today, even that Nvidia Dawn fairy demo from 2003 still looks great!

In any case, I'm much more interested in seeing what new consoles will be able to pull off in realistic gaming situations.

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the engine's running on a GTX 680, i7-3770K 3.5GHz and using 1.8GB of Ram. M$'s wasting money on putting 8GB of ram on the 720 instead of a better CPU or GPU.


The Cell's still more powerful than that i7 BTW. Now cry moard herms. :cool:

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1.8 GB RAM? That's plain bs, SE is lying.

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]''MEDIA: Square Enix Luminous Next-Gen Engine Shows What PS4/Xbox 720 Graphics Will Look Like'' http://360e.blogspot.com.ar/2013/02/media-square-enix-luminous-next-gen.html?m=1 TC still mad that he got busted for being a butthurt bandodger.NineTailedGoku

What does those pics prove,  chipped paint?  Big deal. Post on topic or leave the thread troll. 

It proves you're a ban dodging fanboy troll, IkingbobI.
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#79 clone01
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]NineTailedGoku

wrong thread?

Fvck off,  stay on topic troll. You'd think I'm the only guy with speakers on the bottom of my tv,and chipped furniture. My walls are salmon,  his are tan. Doesn't prove a damn thing. Different 360s as well. 

Nah...its way easier to discuss what an idiot you are. Oh, how about that gamertag, bro?
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]''MEDIA: Square Enix Luminous Next-Gen Engine Shows What PS4/Xbox 720 Graphics Will Look Like'' http://360e.blogspot.com.ar/2013/02/media-square-enix-luminous-next-gen.html?m=1 TC still mad that he got busted for being a butthurt bandodger.clone01

What does those pics prove,  chipped paint?  Big deal. Post on topic or leave the thread troll. 

It proves you're a ban dodging fanboy troll, IkingbobI.

Your "proof" is BS.  The bottom of my tv is gray,  his is black. My paint is salmon, his is tan. How many people have chipped furniture. Also, I'm the only guy with my things on the right side of my room? If you feel that strongly about it, report it to a mod,  if not shut the Fvck up about it. Basement dwelling fanboy. 

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#81 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

What does those pics prove,  chipped paint?  Big deal. Post on topic or leave the thread troll. 

NineTailedGoku

It proves you're a ban dodging fanboy troll, IkingbobI.

Your "proof" is BS.  The bottom of my tv is gray,  his is black. My paint is salmon, his is tan. How many people have chipped furniture. Also, I'm the only guy with my things on the right side of my room? If you feel that strongly about it, report it to a mod,  if not shut the Fvck up about it. Basement dwelling fanboy. 

Awwww, ban dodging fanboy is angry. Why don't you shoot me another angry PM? BTW, how about that gamertag, brotato chips? Or are you a coward along with a bandodger, IkingbobI?
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#82 NineTailedGoku
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Fcking troll Clone. This is a neutral topic,  stop ruining it with your conspiracy theories fanboy troll. 

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#83 clone01
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Fcking troll Clone. This is a neutral topic,  stop ruining it with your conspiracy theories fanboy troll. 

NineTailedGoku
So angry! I'm sorry you got called out for the ban dodging troll you are. Every one here saw it. So how about that gamertag, brohan?
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I hope KH3 looks amazing with those kind of graphics.

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#85 NineTailedGoku
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Fcking troll Clone. This is a neutral topic,  stop ruining it with your conspiracy theories fanboy troll. 

clone01

So angry! I'm sorry you got called out for the ban dodging troll you are. Every one here saw it. So how about that gamertag, brohan?

That's right,  everyone saw it and sees there's differences. If your proof held up so much,  wouldn't I be banned by now. I'm not because your proof is garbage and the result of you reaching against a poster you have a quarrel with, Fvcking weasel.  Get help and stop asking for my gamertag broken record. 

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#86 NineTailedGoku
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I hope KH3 looks amazing with those kind of graphics.

HaloPimp978

I know,  imagine the possibilities :shock:

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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Fcking troll Clone. This is a neutral topic,  stop ruining it with your conspiracy theories fanboy troll. 

NineTailedGoku

So angry! I'm sorry you got called out for the ban dodging troll you are. Every one here saw it. So how about that gamertag, brohan?

That's right,  everyone saw it and sees there's differences. If your proof held up so much,  wouldn't I be banned by now. I'm not because your proof is garbage and the result of you reaching against a poster you have a quarrel with, Fvcking weasel.  Get help and stop asking for my gamertag broken record. 

Nah, not if you hopped IP addresses, IkingbobI, Still waiting on that gamertag, bromaine lettuce.
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#88 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Fcking troll Clone. This is a neutral topic,  stop ruining it with your conspiracy theories fanboy troll. 

NineTailedGoku

So angry! I'm sorry you got called out for the ban dodging troll you are. Every one here saw it. So how about that gamertag, brohan?

That's right,  everyone saw it and sees there's differences. If your proof held up so much,  wouldn't I be banned by now. I'm not because your proof is garbage and the result of you reaching against a poster you have a quarrel with, Fvcking weasel.  Get help and stop asking for my gamertag broken record. 

Actually, most of the folks in that thread called you out for your obvious idiocy. I mean, you're not really that smart, so its kind of a given.
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#89 StrongBlackVine
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And? We have no proof consoles will be doing this in real time.faizan_faizan

You talk like you don't want them to be able to do it.

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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] So angry! I'm sorry you got called out for the ban dodging troll you are. Every one here saw it. So how about that gamertag, brohan?clone01

That's right,  everyone saw it and sees there's differences. If your proof held up so much,  wouldn't I be banned by now. I'm not because your proof is garbage and the result of you reaching against a poster you have a quarrel with, Fvcking weasel.  Get help and stop asking for my gamertag broken record. 

Actually, most of the folks in that thread called you out for your obvious idiocy. I mean, you're not really that smart, so its kind of a given.

Let's get on PSN,  and play RE 6

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#91 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

That's right,  everyone saw it and sees there's differences. If your proof held up so much,  wouldn't I be banned by now. I'm not because your proof is garbage and the result of you reaching against a poster you have a quarrel with, Fvcking weasel.  Get help and stop asking for my gamertag broken record. 

NineTailedGoku

Actually, most of the folks in that thread called you out for your obvious idiocy. I mean, you're not really that smart, so its kind of a given.

Let's get on PSN,  and play RE 6

What, no gamertag? I'm senor_blanco. Its in my sig.
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#92 NineTailedGoku
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] Actually, most of the folks in that thread called you out for your obvious idiocy. I mean, you're not really that smart, so its kind of a given.clone01

Let's get on PSN,  and play RE 6

What, no gamertag? I'm senor_blanco. Its in my sig.

It's $Manga-Kong=5613$ send me an invite bud. 

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#94 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Let's get on PSN,  and play RE 6

NineTailedGoku

What, no gamertag? I'm senor_blanco. Its in my sig.

It's $Manga-K1ng=5613$ send me an invite bud. 

So why would you divulge a PSN ID, but no gamertag, IkingbobI?
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#95 NineTailedGoku
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] What, no gamertag? I'm senor_blanco. Its in my sig.clone01

It's $Manga-K1ng=5613$ send me an invite bud. 

So why would you divulge a PSN ID, but no gamertag, IkingbobI?

Once again,  I'm not him but belive what you want JohnnyCage. Hey buddy,  when u gonna send my invite. I want to play. Manga$AnimeShippiden9. Let me know when u send it.  I'm online now buddy. Cmon,  I want to play. 

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#96 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

It's $Manga-K1ng=5613$ send me an invite bud. 

NineTailedGoku

So why would you divulge a PSN ID, but no gamertag, IkingbobI?

Once again,  I'm not him but belive what you want JohnnyCage. Hey buddy,  when u gonna send my invite. I want to play. Manga$AnimeShippiden9. Let me know when u send it.  I'm online now buddy. Cmon,  I want to play. 

What does that have to do with a gamertag, IkingbobI?
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I just ordered a flesh light. It's not expected here until March 15th though. Hopefully I'll be done with Ni no Kuni by then. Kinda bummed to hear The Last of Us was delayed, but at least it comes out 3 days before my birthday. Anyways, I feel like watching a movie, so I'll talk to you guys later. Baaaai. :)
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#98 NineTailedGoku
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] So why would you divulge a PSN ID, but no gamertag, IkingbobI?clone01

Once again,  I'm not him but belive what you want JohnnyCage. Hey buddy,  when u gonna send my invite. I want to play. Manga$AnimeShippiden9. Let me know when u send it.  I'm online now buddy. Cmon,  I want to play. 

What does that have to do with a gamertag, IkingbobI?

I just gave my gamertag buddy:) where are you? I'm looking for your request. Where are you:shock:

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#99 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Once again,  I'm not him but belive what you want JohnnyCage. Hey buddy,  when u gonna send my invite. I want to play. Manga$AnimeShippiden9. Let me know when u send it.  I'm online now buddy. Cmon,  I want to play. 

NineTailedGoku

What does that have to do with a gamertag, IkingbobI?

I just gave my gamertag buddy:) where are you? I'm looking for your request. Where are you:shock:

Gamertag and PSNId are the same?
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#100 NineTailedGoku
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] What does that have to do with a gamertag, IkingbobI?clone01

I just gave my gamertag buddy:) where are you? I'm looking for your request. Where are you:shock:

Gamertag and PSNId are the same?

Kong is PSN Anime is XBL. Hurry,  let play a game my friend.Â