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The PS3's top-spec performance has earned it the love of Square Enix developer, Tetsuya Nomura, who gave Sony's shiny box some serious props in a recent interview with Dengeki Playstation Magazine.

The enthusiastic level designer gushed: "It's not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited [we think he means unlimited] amount of movement we can put in one go and how big our imagination and ideas are."

Dodgy translations courtesy of qj.net.

He goes on to enthuse (clearly, this time): "The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination."

He later reveals how Square Enix is aiming to give the Final Fantasy series a change of gameplay with the thirteenth game in the long-running RPG series. "The action elements will be high in the game but instead of defeating the enemies from an audience's view, I want to give people the taste of actually being part of that world. The assignment here is whether we can build an FF with the suspense and thrill of Third-Person-Shooting or not. In that sense, the game will be a slightly different type of FF."

Exciting stuff for PS3 and FF fans.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=166668

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Kingdom Hearts just better be good.

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So? The only opinions that count of this board are the PS3 haters. Where do you go off and praising the PS3? You go to the playstation forum if you want to do that!
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So? The only opinions that count of this board are the PS3 haters. Where do you go off and praising the PS3? You go to the playstation forum if you want to do that!IbukiNinja

huh?

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Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed user base that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.
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and the guy who invented Final Fantasy favors the 360. So that argument is void.
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So? The only opinions that count of this board are the PS3 haters. Where do you go off and praising the PS3? You go to the playstation forum if you want to do that!IbukiNinja

Agreed.

Another dev that says the ps3 is more powerful, another dev that the Sony-haters label as a Sony fanboy.

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Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed user base that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.Vandalvideo

its small now because it hasn't been on the market that long, think think

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and the guy who invented Final Fantasy favors the 360. So that argument is void.akuma303x
but his isn't with square enix and making final fantasy anymore
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Hey but square is biased to Sony.

Square sucks

or

Square is stoopid and doesn't want money.

That's what you will get or some way to turn it around.

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#11 akuma303x
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[QUOTE="akuma303x"]and the guy who invented Final Fantasy favors the 360. So that argument is void.Tnasty11
but his isn't with square enix and making final fantasy anymore

I know, just saying.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed user base that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.Klash47

its small now because it hasn't been on the market that long, think think

And its just going to magically get larger by the time FF is out without very many games to warrant a substantial growth? Color me skeptic.
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Hey but square is biased to Sony.

Square sucks

or

Square is stoopid and doesn't want money.

That's what you will get or some way to turn it around.

tegovoltio

Agreed. fanboys are very predictable lol

On topic: good to hear that

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Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed user base that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.Vandalvideo

You do realize that a console needs games before it will sell? The guy knows that FFXIII will sell a hell of a lot of ps3's. That game is the #1 game expected to increase the ps3 install base considerably, and i'm sure he's taking that into account.

Not to mention, by the time the game comes out, Sony will have already had MGS4, GT5, and to a lesser extent R&C5 to increase the install base considerably, along with all the new IPs on the way.

I'm sure SE is not really worried about the ps3's install base right now, as they know more about how the market works than any of us, and they know that the ps3 has very games out right now, and almost none of them are Killer Apps, therefore people are holding off on buying the console. Why buy a console that doesn't have games?

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[QUOTE="Klash47"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed user base that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.Vandalvideo

its small now because it hasn't been on the market that long, think think

And its just going to magically get larger by the time FF is out without very many games to warrant a substantial growth? Color me skeptic.

so you saying the installment base of the ps3 won't grow at all
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Thats good news for the PS3. Tho my opinion on SE is not going up with their business decisions. Not saying anything in regards to anything PS3 related, but only to SE as a whole. Sure I have had this opinion on them for some time now... But it's only getting bigger.
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You do realize that a console needs games before it will sell? The guy knows that FFXIII will sell a hell of a lot of ps3's. That game is the #1 game expected to increase the ps3 install base considerably, and i'm sure he's taking that into account.Not to mention, by the time the game comes out, Sony will have already had MGS4, GT5, and to a lesser extent R&C5 to increase the install base considerably, along with all the new IPs on the way. I'm sure SE is not really worried about the ps3's install base right now, as they know more about how the market works than any of us, and they know that the ps3 has very games out right now, and almost none of them are Killer Apps, therefore people are holding off on buying the console. Why buy a console that doesn't have games?makingmusic476
You do realize that Final Fantasy doesn't have some magical flawless attachment rate right? Even with the PS2, a susbtantially larger userbase, it probably didn't have any larger than a 25% attachment rate. (Educated guess, don't have the numbers right off the top of my head. Could be found checking FF sales to ammount of consoles at the time of sales).
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[QUOTE="Klash47"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed user base that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.Vandalvideo

its small now because it hasn't been on the market that long, think think

And its just going to magically get larger by the time FF is out without very many games to warrant a substantial growth? Color me skeptic.

not magically but gradually, let me ask you something, do you think that if all these companies knew that the ps3 would fail they would still invest millions in developing games for it. so there all wrong and your right? is that what your trying to tell us? go away little boy your halofriends are waiting for you online

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Klash47"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed user base that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.Tnasty11

its small now because it hasn't been on the market that long, think think

And its just going to magically get larger by the time FF is out without very many games to warrant a substantial growth? Color me skeptic.

so you saying the installment base of the ps3 won't grow at all

Of course not! It will remain at 3 million and no one will buy it after January 2008. You have to understand that the PS3 is not a successful console. Only a fanboy could like a $600 system.

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so you saying the installment base of the ps3 won't grow at allTnasty11
Not enough to warrant some kind of substantial return on their investment. Contrary to popular belief, FF does not have a 100% attachment rate. no no no young bucky.
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not magically but gradually, let me ask you something, do you think that if all these companies knew that the ps3 would fail they would still invest millions in developing games for it. so there all wrong and your right? is that what your trying to tell us? go away little boy your halofriends are waiting for you onlineKlash47
Did you jsut call me a lemming? *Takes off his glove* I'm a suppoter of the PS3, but I'm being realistic here. FF doesn't have a high attachment rate, and with the current rate the userbase is growing, its not going to have enough of sells to warrant a substantial return on their investment.
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"] so you saying the installment base of the ps3 won't grow at allVandalvideo
Not enough to warrant some kind of substantial return on their investment. Contrary to popular belief, FF does not have a 100% attachment rate. no no no young bucky.

do you SE main market is japan?
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"] so you saying the installment base of the ps3 won't grow at allVandalvideo
Not enough to warrant some kind of substantial return on their investment. Contrary to popular belief, FF does not have a 100% attachment rate. no no no young bucky.

Who believes a game has a 100% attachment rate? Looks like you creating your misconceptions?

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"] so you saying the installment base of the ps3 won't grow at allIbukiNinja

Not enough to warrant some kind of substantial return on their investment. Contrary to popular belief, FF does not have a 100% attachment rate. no no no young bucky.

Who believes a game has a 100% attachment rate? Looks like you creating your misconceptions?

Not at all. I'm addressing the issue before it comes up. If you look at how well FF sold on the PS2, you can make an educated deduction how many PS3 owners are actually going to buy the game. As I see the current trends, its not enough to warrant a substantial return on investment.
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[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"] so you saying the installment base of the ps3 won't grow at allVandalvideo

Not enough to warrant some kind of substantial return on their investment. Contrary to popular belief, FF does not have a 100% attachment rate. no no no young bucky.

Who believes a game has a 100% attachment rate? Looks like you creating your misconceptions?

Not at all. I'm addressing the issue before it comes up. If you look at how well FF sold on the PS2, you can make an educated deduction how many PS3 owners are actually going to buy the game. As I see the current trends, its not enough to warrant a substantial return on investment.

Understood. I expect Final Fantasy sale just as many as the other previous FF. Regardless of the PS3 install base. Remember it's the games that sells the system.

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[QUOTE="makingmusic476"]You do realize that a console needs games before it will sell? The guy knows that FFXIII will sell a hell of a lot of ps3's. That game is the #1 game expected to increase the ps3 install base considerably, and i'm sure he's taking that into account.Not to mention, by the time the game comes out, Sony will have already had MGS4, GT5, and to a lesser extent R&C5 to increase the install base considerably, along with all the new IPs on the way. I'm sure SE is not really worried about the ps3's install base right now, as they know more about how the market works than any of us, and they know that the ps3 has very games out right now, and almost none of them are Killer Apps, therefore people are holding off on buying the console. Why buy a console that doesn't have games?Vandalvideo
You do realize that Final Fantasy doesn't have some magical flawless attachment rate right? Even with the PS2, a susbtantially larger userbase, it probably didn't have any larger than a 25% attachment rate. (Educated guess, don't have the numbers right off the top of my head. Could be found checking FF sales to ammount of consoles at the time of sales).

And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

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[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"] so you saying the installment base of the ps3 won't grow at allVandalvideo

Not enough to warrant some kind of substantial return on their investment. Contrary to popular belief, FF does not have a 100% attachment rate. no no no young bucky.

Who believes a game has a 100% attachment rate? Looks like you creating your misconceptions?

Not at all. I'm addressing the issue before it comes up. If you look at how well FF sold on the PS2, you can make an educated deduction how many PS3 owners are actually going to buy the game. As I see the current trends, its not enough to warrant a substantial return on investment.

Agreed that there isn't that much attach rate and it did happen to XII but..

The hype for FF XIII is way bigger and with the installed base of PS3 owners needing games FF XIII is sure to sell more than XII, just like the case of X after IX.

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So a japanease gaming company thinks the high-end japanease console is better then the american high-end console? I'm shocked!!!!! I did NOT see this coming. My god...cause we all know how much japanease love american electronics.
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Understood. I expect Final Fantasy sale just as many as the other previous FF. Regardless of the PS3 install base. Remember it's the games that sells the system.IbukiNinja
Thats assuming the people who are planning on getting it haven't already bought it. The highest recorded attachment rate for FF was 30%, and that was FF7. Lets say best case scenario. If FF13 were to release today and somehow sold as well as FF7, then it would sell: 1.05 million copies. That would be in a perfect scenario with it selling as well as FF7.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]You do realize that a console needs games before it will sell? The guy knows that FFXIII will sell a hell of a lot of ps3's. That game is the #1 game expected to increase the ps3 install base considerably, and i'm sure he's taking that into account.Not to mention, by the time the game comes out, Sony will have already had MGS4, GT5, and to a lesser extent R&C5 to increase the install base considerably, along with all the new IPs on the way. I'm sure SE is not really worried about the ps3's install base right now, as they know more about how the market works than any of us, and they know that the ps3 has very games out right now, and almost none of them are Killer Apps, therefore people are holding off on buying the console. Why buy a console that doesn't have games?makingmusic476

You do realize that Final Fantasy doesn't have some magical flawless attachment rate right? Even with the PS2, a susbtantially larger userbase, it probably didn't have any larger than a 25% attachment rate. (Educated guess, don't have the numbers right off the top of my head. Could be found checking FF sales to ammount of consoles at the time of sales).

And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

I completely ignored them, because we're strictly talking about Square Enix, NOT konami.
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And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

makingmusic476

THat's actually not true. None of the ff's after 7 sold over 5 million copies.

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[QUOTE="makingmusic476"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"]You do realize that a console needs games before it will sell? The guy knows that FFXIII will sell a hell of a lot of ps3's. That game is the #1 game expected to increase the ps3 install base considerably, and i'm sure he's taking that into account.Not to mention, by the time the game comes out, Sony will have already had MGS4, GT5, and to a lesser extent R&C5 to increase the install base considerably, along with all the new IPs on the way. I'm sure SE is not really worried about the ps3's install base right now, as they know more about how the market works than any of us, and they know that the ps3 has very games out right now, and almost none of them are Killer Apps, therefore people are holding off on buying the console. Why buy a console that doesn't have games?Vandalvideo

You do realize that Final Fantasy doesn't have some magical flawless attachment rate right? Even with the PS2, a susbtantially larger userbase, it probably didn't have any larger than a 25% attachment rate. (Educated guess, don't have the numbers right off the top of my head. Could be found checking FF sales to ammount of consoles at the time of sales).

And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

I completely ignored them, because we're strictly talking about Square Enix, NOT konami.

I apologize. I thought you were trying to say that these games wouldn't sell systems, so i assumed you were referring to all of the ones i mentioned.
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[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]Understood. I expect Final Fantasy sale just as many as the other previous FF. Regardless of the PS3 install base. Remember it's the games that sells the system.Vandalvideo
Thats assuming the people who are planning on getting it haven't already bought it. The highest recorded attachment rate for FF was 30%, and that was FF7. Lets say best case scenario. If FF13 were to release today and somehow sold as well as FF7, then it would sell: 1.05 million copies. That would be in a perfect scenario with it selling as well as FF7.

just curious how much did ff7 sell?

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And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

Illumination77

THat's actually not true. None of the ff's after 7 sold over 5 million copies.

you wrong FF 10 and FF X-2

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And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

Illumination77

THat's actually not true. None of the ff's after 7 sold over 5 million copies.

You may want to look up FFX again. I'm trying to help you out on how to state facts.

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And yet you dismissed every other game besides FF thati mentioned?

It doesn't matter how many ps2s sold, or what the attachment rate was. Most ps2 owners were casuals who have probably never played a FF game in their lives. FF has a very large fanbase. Every iteration of the series since FFVII has sold at least 5 mil., some of them getting up to 8-9 mil., and the series has gained quite a following. I know many people who have said they won't buy a ps3 until FFXIII comes out or unless FFXIII stays exclusive.

The same goes with MGS4, except the MGS series averages 4-6 mil. salesper iteration.

Illumination77

THat's actually not true. None of the ff's after 7 sold over 5 million copies.

Well, according to VGChartz (if you trust them), every FF since FFVII has sold over 5 mil., with the exception of FFXII, which stopped just short at 4.94 mil. That number hasn't been updated in a long while, so i assumed it had passed the 5 mil. mark by now.

Edited: And strangely, FFXI is not on that list, but i wouldn't even count that, being an MMO and all.

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#37 Tnasty11
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]Understood. I expect Final Fantasy sale just as many as the other previous FF. Regardless of the PS3 install base. Remember it's the games that sells the system.AsadMahdi59

Thats assuming the people who are planning on getting it haven't already bought it. The highest recorded attachment rate for FF was 30%, and that was FF7. Lets say best case scenario. If FF13 were to release today and somehow sold as well as FF7, then it would sell: 1.05 million copies. That would be in a perfect scenario with it selling as well as FF7.

just curious how much did ff7 sell?

over 10 million

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#38 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]Understood. I expect Final Fantasy sale just as many as the other previous FF. Regardless of the PS3 install base. Remember it's the games that sells the system.AsadMahdi59

Thats assuming the people who are planning on getting it haven't already bought it. The highest recorded attachment rate for FF was 30%, and that was FF7. Lets say best case scenario. If FF13 were to release today and somehow sold as well as FF7, then it would sell: 1.05 million copies. That would be in a perfect scenario with it selling as well as FF7.

just curious how much did ff7 sell?

Within 3 days of release it sold 2.3 million in japan.
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honestly im usually a sony fan, but sony does own 51% square shares.
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honestly im usually a sony fan, but sony does own 51% square shares.dxmcat
swear it was 19%.
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honestly im usually a sony fan, but sony does own 51% square shares.dxmcat
Actually, the most they ever owned was 20%, and that dropped to 10% when Square merged with Enix.

If Sony owend 51% of SE, you'd never see any game on a non-Sony platform. They'd have complete control over the company.

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FF will sell in Japan like Halo in the States. I don't see any point in to question the PS3 install base over a game like FF. Top 5 franchises of gaming history. I wouldn't be worry about Square-ebix not making a profit off a FF game.
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[QUOTE="dxmcat"]honestly im usually a sony fan, but sony does own 51% square shares.makingmusic476

Actually, the most they ever owned was 20%, and that dropped to 10% when Square merged with Enix.

If Sony owend 51% of SE, you'd never see any game on a non-Sony platform. They'd have complete control over the company.

I think FF11 on 360 proves that.
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FF will sell in Japan like Halo in the States. I don't see any point in to question the PS3 install base over a game like FF. Top 5 franchises of gaming history. I wouldn't be worry about Square-ebix not making a profit off a FF game.IbukiNinja
If you think 1.05 million copies (perfect case scenario) is enough to turn a significant profit off a multimillion dollar game then I'd have to say probably not. It would be enough to keep them in the black maybe.
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[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]FF will sell in Japan like Halo in the States. I don't see any point in to question the PS3 install base over a game like FF. Top 5 franchises of gaming history. I wouldn't be worry about Square-ebix not making a profit off a FF game.Vandalvideo
If you think 1.05 million copies (perfect case scenario) is enough to turn a significant profit off a multimillion dollar game then I'd have to say probably not. It would be enough to keep them in the black maybe.

But there arepeople waiting until the game comes out to buy a ps3. Just like there are people waiting to buy 360's for Halo, or ps3's for MGS.

Also, by the time FF is even close to being completed, the ps3's install base will have increased drastically, due to regular sales, the holiday season, and the release of major titles like i listed above.

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[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]FF will sell in Japan like Halo in the States. I don't see any point in to question the PS3 install base over a game like FF. Top 5 franchises of gaming history. I wouldn't be worry about Square-ebix not making a profit off a FF game.Vandalvideo
If you think 1.05 million copies (perfect case scenario) is enough to turn a significant profit off a multimillion dollar game then I'd have to say probably not. It would be enough to keep them in the black maybe.

Earth to this poster the game is to be release in 2008 not tomorrow.

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Hey, if they want to spent millions of dollars developing games for a system with a small installed user base that probably won't warrant them much of a return on their investment thats their sauce.Vandalvideo

You seem to forget that PS2 didn't have much of a userbase when FFX started development

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Umm, Lemmings, why're you bringing up attachement rates for single games. If an attachement rate is too high, that means there isn't many other system sellers on that console. Thats why Halo always had such a high attachment rate on the xbox, because the xbox brand doesn't have any other system sellers besides Halo. Playstation has always had a diverse game lineup so 1 game won't get that high an attachment rate. FF isn't the only popular series on playstation, so stop using the attachment rate thing as ownage when Playstation always sold 100+ million consoles. When you think about it, Playstation always sold that many units because it had such a large variety of great games. In other words, Playstation wouldn't have been a successful brand if 1 game had such high attachment rate, cause they wouldn't be appealing to everyone if that was the case.
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#49 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]FF will sell in Japan like Halo in the States. I don't see any point in to question the PS3 install base over a game like FF. Top 5 franchises of gaming history. I wouldn't be worry about Square-ebix not making a profit off a FF game.IbukiNinja

If you think 1.05 million copies (perfect case scenario) is enough to turn a significant profit off a multimillion dollar game then I'd have to say probably not. It would be enough to keep them in the black maybe.

Earth to this poster the game is to be release in 2008 not tomorrow.

Okay then, gimme a second and I'll recalculate it based on current sales rates... bb in like 10 minutes.
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[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]FF will sell in Japan like Halo in the States. I don't see any point in to question the PS3 install base over a game like FF. Top 5 franchises of gaming history. I wouldn't be worry about Square-ebix not making a profit off a FF game.Vandalvideo

If you think 1.05 million copies (perfect case scenario) is enough to turn a significant profit off a multimillion dollar game then I'd have to say probably not. It would be enough to keep them in the black maybe.

Earth to this poster the game is to be release in 2008 not tomorrow.

Okay then, gimme a second and I'll recalculate it based on current sales rates... bb in like 10 minutes.

dont bother. There is no set date for it.