Square Enix Wants to Focus on the West?!

[QUOTE="ace52387"]

The easiest read for the article is that Sony wants to abandon FF to a certain extent, focus on new ip's and multiplay stuff. Mix up the genres. I'm not sure where you're getting that FFXIII will go multiplat. It seems as if it's almost the opposite. They want to chomp up more of the market in the west, and not just scrub off their FF franchise alone.

Edit: I don't know if they'll do well outside the RPG genre, but I think their presentation may take a tweaking in new IP's. Their cinematics might edge more towards hollywood, and away from anime. The action sequences might pull away from that ridiculously over the top advent children stuff and move again, more towards hollywood, which focuses less on wild choreography and more on the drama in the action. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking something like Vagrant Story (conceptually and visually, not gameplay wise) would be a nice fit for western audiences.

musicalmac

LOL...I think "hope" is the key word in your statement.I know you want Square enix to support the 360 with its big hitters but the fact is the lack of the 360's diversity in its fanbase is why its not being embraced. If you are a true gamer you should be hoping for new genresand IPsrather then hoping and praying for another games exclusives. If you really want those games maybe you should just consider...gasp...getting a PS3.

Javy03

If I sounded mean I didnt mean to, my bad. As for you mentioning FFXIII going to the 360 meaing its going to the "western" market is a larger generalization then mine. My point is you seem to be under the impression that the PS3 has no fanbase in NA which is far from the truth. The last numbers I saw of the PS3 and 360 had the 360 roughly 5-6 million ahead of the PS3. Thats it. We came from a gen where the PS2 had an 80 million lead and still most of its 3rd party support was multiplat.

In a year and ahalf(if there is not sales spikefor the PS3)the PS3 will be at 20 million and the 360 at 26 million. And although I am sure more of the 360s fanbase will be in NA then the PS3s, that still leaves the PS3 with a large fanbase in NA. With Square making their game on the PS3 they ARE hitting the Western market, as well as their key Japanese maket and European market. Now if Square wants to increase its sales in the Western world they need to make Western style games, not release more FF or FF on more consoles.

I am not saying hoping is wrong but how about hoping for new interesting genres from this talented dev. Wishing for another consoles exclusives like you are doing and "selectively" reading what you want out of the article might show that you might not have made the best choice in your console purchase.

In a year and ahalf(if there is not sales spikefor the PS3)the PS3 will be at 20 million and the 360 at 26 million.Javy03

If I sounded mean I didnt mean to, my bad. As for you mentioning FFXIII going to the 360 meaing its going to the "western" market is a larger generalization then mine. My point is you seem to be under the impression that the PS3 has no fanbase in NA which is far from the truth. The last numbers I saw of the PS3 and 360 had the 360 roughly 5-6 million ahead of the PS3. Thats it. We came from a gen where the PS2 had an 80 million lead and still most of its 3rd party support was multiplat.

In a year and ahalf(if there is not sales spikefor the PS3)the PS3 will be at 20 million and the 360 at 26 million. And although I am sure more of the 360s fanbase will be in NA then the PS3s, that still leaves the PS3 with a large fanbase in NA. With Square making their game on the PS3 they ARE hitting the Western market, as well as their key Japanese maket and European market. Now if Square wants to increase its sales in the Western world they need to make Western style games, not release more FF or FF on more consoles.

I am not saying hoping is wrong but how about hoping for new interesting genres from this talented dev. Wishing for another consoles exclusives like you are doing and "selectively" reading what you want out of the article might show that you might not have made the best choice in your console purchase.

Javy03

I think The Last Remnant is one of those titles that SE hopes will bring better market share to them. It breaks from traditional turn based combat and provides more action.

Also, you kind of see the change happening in the FF series starting with XII. They revamped the battle system and are hoping this can attract new users.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]In a year and ahalf(if there is not sales spikefor the PS3)the PS3 will be at 20 million and the 360 at 26 million.Jandurin

The 360 had a price drop in 07 along with its three most hyped games and still it sold less then the year previously. I am sure their will be a 360 price drop but I am also sure there will be a PS3 price drop. And from the look of it, when the PS3 hit the right price its sales spiked in three regions while the 360s main sales spike came from its one major reason.

Thats not even mentioning games like GT, MGS4, etc.. that will also sell the PS3. Either way you are talking about a very very small lead of the PS3, possibly getting smaller next year. In the end all Square has to do is make their game on one console and hit all THREE regions hard as opposed to working harder and longer to port and hit one region twice. Especially when its true target region is Japan.

Also, you kind of see the change happening in the FF series starting with XII. They revamped the battle system and are hoping this can attract new users.Zhengi

The 360 had a price drop in 07 along with its three most hyped games and still it sold less then the year previously. Javy03

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

If I sounded mean I didnt mean to, my bad. As for you mentioning FFXIII going to the 360 meaing its going to the "western" market is a larger generalization then mine. My point is you seem to be under the impression that the PS3 has no fanbase in NA which is far from the truth. The last numbers I saw of the PS3 and 360 had the 360 roughly 5-6 million ahead of the PS3. Thats it. We came from a gen where the PS2 had an 80 million lead and still most of its 3rd party support was multiplat.

In a year and ahalf(if there is not sales spikefor the PS3)the PS3 will be at 20 million and the 360 at 26 million. And although I am sure more of the 360s fanbase will be in NA then the PS3s, that still leaves the PS3 with a large fanbase in NA. With Square making their game on the PS3 they ARE hitting the Western market, as well as their key Japanese maket and European market. Now if Square wants to increase its sales in the Western world they need to make Western style games, not release more FF or FF on more consoles.

I am not saying hoping is wrong but how about hoping for new interesting genres from this talented dev. Wishing for another consoles exclusives like you are doing and "selectively" reading what you want out of the article might show that you might not have made the best choice in your console purchase.

musicalmac

Here is what you said

"My reason for mentioning FFXIII, is if they really want to bring something big to the "western" (360) market, why not their flagship title?"

You generalized the Western market as the 360 market. They said they want to appeal to the Western market not your definition of the Western market. Explain to me how my arguement is SW logic???

[QUOTE="Javy03"] The 360 had a price drop in 07 along with its three most hyped games and still it sold less then the year previously. Jandurin

I honestly wouldn't bother talking to this fanatic. Someone who doesn't think the 360 is pumping out new genres and IPs is clearly not logical.

Final Fantasy sells more in the west than in Japan... haris12121212

Final Fantasy VII was both a critical and commercial success, and set several sales records. Within three days of its January 1997 release in Japan, the game had sold 2.3 million copies. This popularity inspired thousands of retailers in North America to break street dates in September to meet public demand for the title.[87] In the game's debut weekend in North America, it sold 330,000 copies,[88] and had reached sales of 500,000 units in less than three weeks.[89] The momentum built in the game's opening weeks continued for several months; Sony announced that the game had sold one million copies on the continent by early December

in Japan, Final Fantasy VIII it sold roughly 2.5 million units within the first four days of release,[54] and during 2006 was voted by readers of Japanese magazine Famitsu as the twenty-second best game of all time.[4] More than 6 million units were sold in total by the end of 1999

Final Fantasy X's reception was largely positive, with high sales figures and critical acclaim from the gaming industry. The game sold 90% of its initial 2,140,000-unit shipment - 1,926,000 units - within just the first four days of release in Japan, having already sold between 1.4 million and 1.5 million copies in pre-orders.[33] These figures exceeded the performances of Final Fantasy IX and Final Fantasy VII in a comparable period,[34] and Final Fantasy X became the first PlayStation 2 game to reach sales totals of 2 million and 4 million copies.[35][36] Once among the top twenty best-selling console games of all time, as of March 2006, the game's consistent sales have earned it the position of the second best-selling Final Fantasy game. As of July 2006, the game has been rated the US market's 11th best selling game of the 21st century

Within nine months of its Japanese release, Final Fantasy X-2 sold a million copies in North America, and nearly four million copies worldwide

Here is what you said

"My reason for mentioning FFXIII, is if they really want to bring something big to the "western" (360) market, why not their flagship title?"

You generalized the Western market as the 360 market. They said they want to appeal to the Western market not your definition of the Western market. Explain to me how my arguement is SW logic???

Javy03

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Javy03"] The 360 had a price drop in 07 along with its three most hyped games and still it sold less then the year previously. Verge_6

I honestly wouldn't bother talking to this fanatic. Someone who doesn't think the 360 is pumping out new genres and IPs is clearly not logical.

LOL...when did I say that?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Javy03"] The 360 had a price drop in 07 along with its three most hyped games and still it sold less then the year previously. Javy03

I honestly wouldn't bother talking to this fanatic. Someone who doesn't think the 360 is pumping out new genres and IPs is clearly not logical.

LOL...when did I say that?

:|...oh, this is just too precious.

If you are a true gamer you should be hoping for new genresand IPsrather then hoping and praying for another games exclusives. If you really want those games maybe you should just consider...gasp...getting a PS3.

Javy03

FF13 on 360 is looking extreemely likely.

And for that matter lends me to beleive that Square may want to buid a much stronger relationship with MS

And if so WOW because MGS4 is the last of that franchise and if FF is a mainstream game on MS systems now.

WOW:shock:

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

Here is what you said

"My reason for mentioning FFXIII, is if they really want to bring something big to the "western" (360) market, why not their flagship title?"

You generalized the Western market as the 360 market. They said they want to appeal to the Western market not your definition of the Western market. Explain to me how my arguement is SW logic???

musicalmac

Again I appologized if you interpreted my writing as hostile, it was not meant to, but thats the beauty of the internet, there is no tone. As for it going to the 360, I personally dont have any problems with that, but going back to the main point of the thread, I dont see how it would benefit Squareenix. They will already be reaching the U.S. and European fanbase in the form of the PS3. Not to mention that it will be reaching their target audience, Japan. To make FFXIIIon the 360would not really benefit Square much at all. You mention software sales but what games are the top sellers on the 360. Are they JRPGs, are they sports games, are they racing games, are they shooters. You see those stats are more important then the general statement of " we sell more games then you".

And as for me dismissing a 5 to 6 million lead as thats it, I mean it. Like I said, the PS2 had an 80 MILLION lead and still most of its games 3rd party wise came to the Xbox. If fanbasesize was all devs cared about FFXIII would be on the PS2.

If Square is really trying to appeal to the Western audience making FFXIII for the 360 will not help them in the long run. That game will make money in the West on the PS3. If they want long term Western success they have to make games that appeal to that region. Thats my point plain and simple, although your post seems to be less focusing on what Square should or might do to achieve their stated goal and more on what you want from them which is FFXIII on the 360.

FF13 on 360 is looking extreemely likely.

And for that matter lends me to beleive that Square may want to buid a much stronger relationship with MS

And if so WOW because MGS4 is the last of that franchise and if FF is a mainstream game on MS systems now.

WOW:shock:

Fuzzy_Munch

GamesIndustry.biz: What brings you to Europe on this trip?

Yoichi Wada: The European market is of course very big as it is, but it has great potential for growth as well. So I would like Square Enix to be stronger in this particular market. One of the purposes of this visit is to get a better grasp of what's going on in this market at the moment, and also to find out about the other main players, and how they're doing.

How do you see the differences between the European and Japanese videogame markets?

It's not very appropriate to talk about Europe as just one block. Each country has different customs and a different culture. The risk for us Japanese is regarding Europe as one big area; that could lead to fatal mistakes.

Each country in Europe can be different in two things. Firstly, cultural background: for example in France, Japanese animation and manga are very popular, therefore they have a cultural background where overtly Japanese character design is highly appreciated.

Secondly, we have to consider their views on technology in general: how the people of a particular country regard networked systems, and if they're prepared to look at it as a means of fun.

Other big Japanese publishers like Sega and Capcom are targeting Western markets very aggressively, acquiring Western studios, signing Western games, even establishing new studios here, such as Sega Racing Studio. Square Enix hasn't made such moves yet. Do you have a similar strategy in mind?

Yes. We would like to develop a strategy to equal the moves made by Sega and Capcom, or maybe exceed them.

How are you planning to adapt and diversify your content for these markets? Will you publish a broader range of games in different genres and art styles?

Square Enix is best known for RPGs of course, but we have our own concept of the worlds we create within our games, and also they tend to be based on good storylines. RPGs tend to be seen as one genre, but it doesn't have to be so. The same kinds of concepts and stories can be expressed in action games, adventure games, even shooters. Our basic attitude to game production is that we take a lot of care, and that attitude can be expressed in any type of game.

Are there other markets beyond the US and Europe that you think it's important for Square Enix to expand in?

Obviously, Asia is a huge market for us. We've already tried some online games in China, and that's going very well. But we do see a necessity to change direction a little bit, and make a fresh start, not just in China but in every country in Asia. Our strategy might be quite different in China compared to the US and EU. The same content would not be appropriate, we think.

What's your analysis of the health of the Japanese games market at present?

It's haphazard growth, if you like. Nintendo has been doing really well, and DS particularly is enjoying a great boom. But when it comes to games for core gamers, it's quite weak. Sooner or later core gamers will become impatient, and there'll be a point where 'real' games will resume growth, but it's not happening at the moment. However, for core games, the European and American markets are growing at enormous speed.

Final Fantasy XI has been quite successful, but it hasn't kept pace with the very fast growth in the MMO market. Do you have plans to pursue this sector further, and challenge the markets of companies like Blizzard and NCSoft?

MMORPG is a big genre, but it can be diversified by different means - one is the game design, the other is the payment system. With FFXI, we intentionally haven't changed the game design or payment since we launched it five years ago. But when it comes to our MMORPG games for the domestic and Asian markets, as an experiment we have tried different formulae on a quite minor scale with smaller titles, such as a per-item payment system. Following that, we have already prepared a few MMORPGs that have been experimentally played internally.

With FFXI, your company was one of the first to try MMO gaming on consoles - PS2 and Xbox 360. Did you feel that was a success? Will consoles become a viable platform for MMOs on the same level as the PC?

In general we regard it as a success. Nowadays, all consoles are network-compatible. When we started the FFXI project, everybody thought it was a big challenge, but now we cannot imagine a console that's not networked. Obviously the PC market is still going strong, but on the console market is even stronger, so in order to seize good market share, I think we have to be on both console and PC.

We've seen a lot of industry consolidation recently - the creation of Activision Blizzard, big acquisitions like EA buying Bioware and Pandemic. How can Square Enix compete with these monsters? Will you have to consider mergers and acquisitions?

M&A is not necessarily our main method, but obviously it has to be deemed as one of the main strategy options. If we were to look for a place in the top three in the global games industry, obviously we would have to consider it seriously.

What was the thinking behind the acquisition of Taito back in 2005?

There were two strategic merits for us; the first one was financial, the other was in terms of making content.

Manufacturing game software is a bit like building a really huge building. It takes a lot of money, and for a year or even more in some cases, you cannot expect any profit. It's the kind of industry where simple physical strength is in demand. Taito, which runs arcades, can get cash flowing in; in that sense it's quite physically strong, and that was beneficial for us.

Secondly, when Square Enix was born as a result of the merger five years ago, we expected that the whole concept of games would change in three ways: input, output, and communication or networking. I think this consciousness must have been shared with Nintendo, because since then they've produced the Wii and the DS. As you know Square Enix does not produce game consoles itself, but if we have arcades, we can experiment in those areas.

Arcades are much more popular in Japan than in the West - do you think physical, social locations for game-playing have any future in Western markets?

We wouldn't write off the possibility, but probably not in the same way that arcades used to be. They used to have this image of being like a gambling venue. But a small section as part of a shopping arcade might work. There's no reason we should be optimistic about the future of arcades, but we still think there's a possibility that people can enjoy playing games 'outdoors' in European and American markets as well.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=31912

Again I appologized if you interpreted my writing as hostile, it was not meant to, but thats the beauty of the internet, there is no tone. As for it going to the 360, I personally dont have any problems with that, but going back to the main point of the thread, I dont see how it would benefit Squareenix. They will already be reaching the U.S. and European fanbase in the form of the PS3. Not to mention that it will be reaching their target audience, Japan. To make FFXIIIon the 360would not really benefit Square much at all. You mention software sales but what games are the top sellers on the 360. Are they JRPGs, are they sports games, are they racing games, are they shooters. You see those stats are more important then the general statement of " we sell more games then you".

And as for me dismissing a 5 to 6 million lead as thats it, I mean it. Like I said, the PS2 had an 80 MILLION lead and still most of its games 3rd party wise came to the Xbox. If fanbasesize was all devs cared about FFXIII would be on the PS2.

If Square is really trying to appeal to the Western audience making FFXIII for the 360 will not help them in the long run. That game will make money in the West on the PS3. If they want long term Western success they have to make games that appeal to that region. Thats my point plain and simple, although your post seems to be less focusing on what Square should or might do to achieve their stated goal and more on what you want from them which is FFXIII on the 360.

Javy03

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

Again I appologized if you interpreted my writing as hostile, it was not meant to, but thats the beauty of the internet, there is no tone. As for it going to the 360, I personally dont have any problems with that, but going back to the main point of the thread, I dont see how it would benefit Squareenix. They will already be reaching the U.S. and European fanbase in the form of the PS3. Not to mention that it will be reaching their target audience, Japan. To make FFXIIIon the 360would not really benefit Square much at all. You mention software sales but what games are the top sellers on the 360. Are they JRPGs, are they sports games, are they racing games, are they shooters. You see those stats are more important then the general statement of " we sell more games then you".

And as for me dismissing a 5 to 6 million lead as thats it, I mean it. Like I said, the PS2 had an 80 MILLION lead and still most of its games 3rd party wise came to the Xbox. If fanbasesize was all devs cared about FFXIII would be on the PS2.

If Square is really trying to appeal to the Western audience making FFXIII for the 360 will not help them in the long run. That game will make money in the West on the PS3. If they want long term Western success they have to make games that appeal to that region. Thats my point plain and simple, although your post seems to be less focusing on what Square should or might do to achieve their stated goal and more on what you want from them which is FFXIII on the 360.

musicalmac

I agree, and I also have problem in believing that PS3 will sell more software on a Western market than the 360....

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

Again I appologized if you interpreted my writing as hostile, it was not meant to, but thats the beauty of the internet, there is no tone. As for it going to the 360, I personally dont have any problems with that, but going back to the main point of the thread, I dont see how it would benefit Squareenix. They will already be reaching the U.S. and European fanbase in the form of the PS3. Not to mention that it will be reaching their target audience, Japan. To make FFXIIIon the 360would not really benefit Square much at all. You mention software sales but what games are the top sellers on the 360. Are they JRPGs, are they sports games, are they racing games, are they shooters. You see those stats are more important then the general statement of " we sell more games then you".

And as for me dismissing a 5 to 6 million lead as thats it, I mean it. Like I said, the PS2 had an 80 MILLION lead and still most of its games 3rd party wise came to the Xbox. If fanbasesize was all devs cared about FFXIII would be on the PS2.

If Square is really trying to appeal to the Western audience making FFXIII for the 360 will not help them in the long run. That game will make money in the West on the PS3. If they want long term Western success they have to make games that appeal to that region. Thats my point plain and simple, although your post seems to be less focusing on what Square should or might do to achieve their stated goal and more on what you want from them which is FFXIII on the 360.

flashattackfina

did youjust said aJRPG would sell 6 million copies on the 360? WTF? you must be dreaming

:lol: looks likea fanboyneeds a reading lesson.

did youjust said aJRPG would sell 6 million copies on the 360? WTF? you must be dreaming

flashattackfina

Clearly many of you had misinterpreted what Mac had said. He was only mentioning a flaghship title for the PS3 that MIGHT come out on the 360 but he's just being skeptical about it. He's only looking at FFXIII becuase there had been so many rumors about it coming to the 360. But trust me, he isn't praying for FFXIII to come out on the 360.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

Again I appologized if you interpreted my writing as hostile, it was not meant to, but thats the beauty of the internet, there is no tone. As for it going to the 360, I personally dont have any problems with that, but going back to the main point of the thread, I dont see how it would benefit Squareenix. They will already be reaching the U.S. and European fanbase in the form of the PS3. Not to mention that it will be reaching their target audience, Japan. To make FFXIIIon the 360would not really benefit Square much at all. You mention software sales but what games are the top sellers on the 360. Are they JRPGs, are they sports games, are they racing games, are they shooters. You see those stats are more important then the general statement of " we sell more games then you".

And as for me dismissing a 5 to 6 million lead as thats it, I mean it. Like I said, the PS2 had an 80 MILLION lead and still most of its games 3rd party wise came to the Xbox. If fanbasesize was all devs cared about FFXIII would be on the PS2.

If Square is really trying to appeal to the Western audience making FFXIII for the 360 will not help them in the long run. That game will make money in the West on the PS3. If they want long term Western success they have to make games that appeal to that region. Thats my point plain and simple, although your post seems to be less focusing on what Square should or might do to achieve their stated goal and more on what you want from them which is FFXIII on the 360.

musicalmac

Long term. So what if they sell a few more million FF's, then they have to wait for FF to come out to make a profit. HOw many of those games come outevery twoyears, not that many. If Square wants long term success in the Western world they need new genres. You talk as if I am crazy or something, you seem to be the only one in your thread who thinks that FFXIII on the 360 equals reaching a more Western audience. Read the posts on your thread and you will see many like mine saying Square more then likly plans to make new genres for the West.

I mean last gen they had three FFs on the biggest console in the West, the PS2. If what you say is true and they just want to sell more FFXIII copies in NA then they would just make it for the PS2 which has a larger fanbase then the PS3, 360 and Wii combined. But thats not what they seem to be hinting at, they seem to be talking about game genre appeal not selling more FFXIII copies.

unless this ff somehow ends up good, no one is going to care, everything past X has blown, and IX sucked also. mtradr43

unless this ff somehow ends up good, no one is going to care, everything past X has blown, and IX sucked also. mtradr43

Anyways, lovely how the FF fanboys, particularly Cow sided ones, get all aggravated by his jesting. Any fool could see his intentions were not to hope or pray for FF XIII to come to the 360, but merely stating that the possibility is INDEED there now. How so? Who has the larger user base in the western market that has the "Next gen" technology FF XIII is using?

Face it, it could not be FF XIII or even Versus, but the possibility for FF XIV or even a new tale of the FF XIII Crystal Chronicle SE wants to expand.

[QUOTE="mtradr43"]unless this ff somehow ends up good, no one is going to care, everything past X has blown, and IX sucked also. haris12121212

kingdom hearts i like, but after VII, the only good ff have been X and VIII. the only reason they sell is because the japanese like stuff like that. look at dynasty warriors and pokemon

Long term. So what if they sell a few more million FF's, then they have to wait for FF to come out to make a profit. HOw many of those games come outevery twoyears, not that many. If Square wants long term success in the Western world they need new genres. You talk as if I am crazy or something,you seem to be the only one in your thread who thinks that FFXIII on the 360 equals reaching a more Western audience. Read the posts on your thread and you will see many like mine saying Square more then likly plans to make new genres for the West.

I mean last gen they had three FFs on the biggest console in the West, the PS2. If what you say is true and they just want to sell more FFXIII copies in NA then they would just make it for the PS2 which has a larger fanbase then the PS3, 360 and Wii combined. But thats not what they seem to be hinting at, they seem to be talking about game genre appeal not selling more FFXIII copies.

Javy03

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Javy03"] The 360 had a price drop in 07 along with its three most hyped games and still it sold less then the year previously. Verge_6

I honestly wouldn't bother talking to this fanatic. Someone who doesn't think the 360 is pumping out new genres and IPs is clearly not logical.

LOL...when did I say that?

:|...oh, this is just too precious.

If you are a true gamer you should be hoping for new genresand IPsrather then hoping and praying for another games exclusives. If you really want those games maybe you should just consider...gasp...getting a PS3.

Javy03

Wow talk about selective reading. I was referring to Square's offerings of new genres not the 360's. Everyone complains about how stale FF is and how how they are sick of playing games that end with a number. My point was if he truly cares about gaming he would hope for new franchises from Square, more diverse genres as opposed to just praying for a game that is on another console. FFXIII going multiplat wouldnt do much for gaming, but SquareEnix taking a jab at Western Style shooters, RPGs, action adventure, etc.. would.

Does that clear things up for you.

kingdom hearts i like, but after VII, the only good ff have been X and VIII. the only reason they sell is because the japanese like stuff like that. look at dynasty warriors and pokemonmtradr43

Also, wouldn't it be funny if they remade FF7 and made it a 360 exclusive. :lol:

This doesn't supprise me at all. The Japanese market is stagnating, where as the american market is thriving and the European market has the biggest potential for Growth.Shazenab

the Japanese market WAS stagnating. but not after the DS and now the Wii. they just want more of the other markets now.

FF9 was good, those others weren't. :P

Also, wouldn't it be funny if they remade FF7 and made it a 360 exclusive. :lol:

Jandurin

[QUOTE="mtradr43"] kingdom hearts i like, but after VII, the only good ff have been X and VIII. the only reason they sell is because the japanese like stuff like that. look at dynasty warriors and pokemonJandurin

Also, wouldn't it be funny if they remade FF7 and made it a 360 exclusive. :lol:

SE would lose all there money from the east by doing that so NOflashattackfina

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]SE would lose all there money from the east by doing that so NOmusicalmac

Most of FFVII sales come from Japan

Final Fantasy VII was both a critical and commercial success, and set several sales records. Within three days of its January 1997 release in Japan, the game had sold 2.3 million copies. This popularity inspired thousands of retailers in North America to break street dates in September to meet public demand for the title.[87] In the game's debut weekend in North America, it sold 330,000 copies,[88] and had reached sales of 500,000 units in less than three weeks.[89] The momentum built in the game's opening weeks continued for several months; Sony announced that the game had sold one million copies on the continent by early December

As of September 2004, Final Fantasy VII has sold more than 9.5 million copies worldwide, earning it the position of the best-selling Final Fantasy title

As to Final Fantasy XIII going to the 360, I highly doubt it. Final Fantasy Versus XIII isn't coming for it either. THe directors also said they wanted to make full use of the PS3's power and blu ray technology. If the 360 gets an HD DVD drive then maybe but I doubt it. ( blu ray is currently taking over one step at a time) I read it on Gamespot awhile ago though

I understand that Square-enix wants to expand their market, but they don't have to do it with a Sony Exclusive

The Last Remenant is looking good, Infinite Undiscory is looking good also. Instead of using Final Fantasy XIII (projects) I see them trying to establish new franchishes and things. Final Fantasy will probably always stay with Sony though

Andalso think that Star Ocean 4 might go Multi plat also but don't trust me on that

The 360 has some good RPGs coming out, butthey haven't really been making a big stir in the US. ex) Eternal Sonata coming to the PS3

Will just have to wait to see how the line up of SonyRPGs do in the market.

Final Fantasy XIII: Star Wars Edition confirmed?Cristallis

Japan - 3.93 US - 3.09 Others - 2.7

That seems pretty equal. (Millions of sales for FF7)

Final Fantasy will probably always stay with Sony thoughhayato_

Just like FF stayed with Nintendo?

Japan - 3.93 US - 3.09 Others - 2.7

That seems pretty equal. (Millions of sales for FF7)

[QUOTE="hayato_"] Final Fantasy will probably always stay with Sony thoughJandurin

Just like FF stayed with Nintendo?

FF left Sony because games cost too much to make on cartidges and Sony offered them creative freedom. Nintendo during the NES days dominated 3rd party devs evening telling them how many releases they could release per year. They did similiarly with the SNES censoring games like Mortal Kombat.

Those are not problems they are having with Sony, although I wouldnt say FF will always stay with Sony, anything can happen and Nintendo has their own FF. I think FF will stay with Japanese popular consoles.

Japan - 3.93 US - 3.09 Others - 2.7

That seems pretty equal. (Millions of sales for FF7)

[QUOTE="hayato_"] Final Fantasy will probably always stay with Sony thoughJandurin

Just like FF stayed with Nintendo?

Nintendo, for whom Square had developed all previous titles in the Final Fantasy series, had decided to continue to use cartridges for their upcoming Nintendo 64 console. This eventually led to a dispute and as a result, Square eventually decided to end their long, often tumultuous, relationship with Nintendo and announced on January 12, 1996 that they would be developing Final Fantasy VII for Sony's PlayStation system

I'm not saying they didn't have good reason to leave Nintendo. I'm just saying they've changed... platforms before.

I mean, I honestly just see them going multiplat. Seems to be the cool thing to do.

Japan - 3.93 US - 3.09 Others - 2.7

That seems pretty equal. (Millions of sales for FF7)

[QUOTE="hayato_"] Final Fantasy will probably always stay with Sony thoughJandurin

Just like FF stayed with Nintendo?

yes it will, as long as you've got the money. Ans Sony has a lot of money

And is Final Fantasy CC on the Wii, I don't know if its made by Square-Enix, I don't have a Wii so I can't talk

but if it is thats a Final Fantasy Title isn't it

Some potentially major news- http://kotaku.com/342044/square-enix-calls-japanese-core-market-weak [QUOTE="Yoichi Wada referring to the Japanese market"]...when it comes to games for core gamers, it's quite weak. Sooner or later core gamers will become impatient, and there'll be a point where 'real' games will resume growth, but it's not happening at the moment. However, for core games, the European and American markets are growing at enormous speed.musicalmac

In short, yes, i am sure FF13 will come to 360 later myself