Square Enix Wants to Focus on the West?!

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#101 flashattackfina
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why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?
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#102 jg4xchamp
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why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?flashattackfina
its how old?

it didnt even do that hot from an FF game standpoint to begin with. Its not exactly WOW?
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#103 dkhw
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?jg4xchamp
its how old?

it didnt even do that hot from an FF game standpoint to begin with. Its not exactly WOW?

Exactly. Also, not many are open to paying monthly fee to play a game.

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#104 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?jg4xchamp
its how old?

it didnt even do that hot from an FF game standpoint to begin with. Its not exactly WOW?

they made a expansion for game a couple months ago
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#105 hayato_
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Japan - 3.93 US - 3.09 Others - 2.7

That seems pretty equal. (Millions of sales for FF7)

[QUOTE="hayato_"] Final Fantasy will probably always stay with Sony thoughflashattackfina

Just like FF stayed with Nintendo?

do you even know why they left nintendo?

Nintendo, for whom Square had developed all previous titles in the Final Fantasy series, had decided to continue to use cartridges for their upcoming Nintendo 64 console. This eventually led to a dispute and as a result, Square eventually decided to end their long, often tumultuous, relationship with Nintendo and announced on January 12, 1996 that they would be developing Final Fantasy VII for Sony's PlayStation system

Hmm cartridges to CD ROM

kind of like the transition from DVD to Blu Ray isn't it

When the 360 comes out with a SKU that has HD DVD then you might see Final Fantasy XIV in the years to follow the Final Fantasy XIII projects, but until then I doubt it

My argument here is that they don't need the Final Fantasy Title in order to impact the 360 sales in the West. With Last Remenant and Infinite Undiscovery they will do just fine ( or time will tell)

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#106 TMontana1004
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So what exactly does this mean? Will Square Enix start making WRPG's? If so, then bring it on! Hopefully they will be multiplat though...

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#107 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?flashattackfina
its how old?

it didnt even do that hot from an FF game standpoint to begin with. Its not exactly WOW?

they made a expansion for game a couple months ago

and i have people on my friends list who play that garbage(i hate FFXI). Expansion or not, still its been on PS2 and PC way longer. Most of the community still plays on those systems.

On top of that its not exactly a typical high selling FF game. I mean 12 which was utter crap outsold it last time ichecked.

IF a good FF game like X, or 7, or 8, or any of those sold like crap you would have a point.

Personally FF could easily do well on 360. Its FInal Fantasy it sells on name alone, japanese gamers would buy a 360 for FInal Fantasy i wouldnt be shocked buy it. THey bought PSPs for Crisis Core.

Now will we see a FF on 360...no.
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#108 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?flashattackfina
its how old?

it didnt even do that hot from an FF game standpoint to begin with. Its not exactly WOW?

they made a expansion for game a couple months ago

how about: it's not even a very good MMO, much less a good game, it's way too unapproachable.
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#109 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?jg4xchamp
its how old?

it didnt even do that hot from an FF game standpoint to begin with. Its not exactly WOW?

they made a expansion for game a couple months ago

and i have people on my friends list who play that garbage(i hate FFXI). Expansion or not, still its been on PS2 and PC way longer. Most of the community still plays on those systems.

On top of that its not exactly a typical high selling FF game. I mean 12 which was utter crap outsold it last time ichecked.

IF a good FF game like X, or 7, or 8, or any of those sold like crap you would have a point.

Personally FF could easily do well on 360. Its FInal Fantasy it sells on name alone, japanese gamers would buy a 360 for FInal Fantasy i wouldnt be shocked buy it. THey bought PSPs for Crisis Core.

Now will we see a FF on 360...no.

they also brought a psp for monster hunter, tekken, ace combat, Gundam games and Hot shot golf

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#110 hayato_
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[they also brought a psp for monster hunter, tekken, ace combat, Gundam games and Hot shot golf

flashattackfina

don't forget the new Star Ocean remake that is coming out for it along with Kingdom Hearts. ( Square Enix games )

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#111 Blackbond
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Well the first thing SE needs to do is stop the constant whoring of FF/KH/DQ games and give us something fresh and new. They either have to do this or make their games seem fresh in a way that Nintendo does with their IP's.
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#112 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?flashattackfina

its how old?

it didnt even do that hot from an FF game standpoint to begin with. Its not exactly WOW?

they made a expansion for game a couple months ago

and i have people on my friends list who play that garbage(i hate FFXI). Expansion or not, still its been on PS2 and PC way longer. Most of the community still plays on those systems.

On top of that its not exactly a typical high selling FF game. I mean 12 which was utter crap outsold it last time ichecked.

IF a good FF game like X, or 7, or 8, or any of those sold like crap you would have a point.

Personally FF could easily do well on 360. Its FInal Fantasy it sells on name alone, japanese gamers would buy a 360 for FInal Fantasy i wouldnt be shocked buy it. THey bought PSPs for Crisis Core.

Now will we see a FF on 360...no.

they also brought a psp for monster hunter, tekken, ace combat, Gundam games and Hot shot golf

but the difference was when Crisis COre came out PSP outsold DS for consecutive months in Japan. NOt 1 month. Not 1 week.

Like 2 whole months in a row. IT was quite shocking.

Im just saying FF is to Japan what Halo is to America.

A KILLER APP
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#113 jg4xchamp
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Well the first thing SE needs to do is stop the constant whoring of FF/KH/DQ games and give us something fresh and new. They either have to do this or make their games seem fresh in a way that Nintendo does with their IP's.Blackbond
As someone who owns a wii.

TP was the worst zelda (zelda 2 doesnt count) because it was such a rehash.

Metroid PRime 3 was under rated iMO

BUt SMG was the only Nintendo game that really felt fresh this gen so far from Nintendo. THey havent exactly been Angles about not rehashing stuff either.
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#114 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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TP was the worst zelda (zelda 2 doesnt count) because it was such a rehash.
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TP was great!

Of course, I haven't played a Zelda since OoT a million years ago.

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#115 JiveT
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It seems Square was putting out more games and a wider variety of games in the PS1 era. I don't know how merging with Enix changed any of that.
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?Jandurin
its how old?

it didnt even do that hot from an FF game standpoint to begin with. Its not exactly WOW?

they made a expansion for game a couple months ago

how about: it's not even a very good MMO, much less a good game, it's way too unapproachable.

That's about how I see it. But I'm not quite sure what FFXI has to do with anything anyways.
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#117 xflamedemonx
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Americans and Euro view gaming alot differ than Asia

They meant that theyre game would appeal more too Westerns

Look at how loyal square is to sony compared 2 microsoft

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#118 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] TP was the worst zelda (zelda 2 doesnt count) because it was such a rehash.
Jandurin

TP was great!

Of course, I haven't played a Zelda since OoT a million years ago.

TP was an OOT knock off only lifeless.

WInd Waker, Majoras Mask, Minish Cap, Oracle of Seasons/Ages, A link to the Past, and ofcourse OOT were all way better games.

TP just took the best of each zelda put it into one game and forgbot about all the little things that seperated zelda games from each other. THe overall experience great solid smooth game but as a zelda game it was lifeless and empty and dissapointing.
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#119 Truffle-Shuffle
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West=360
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#120 mistervengeance
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how does that translate to a huge ps3 game to 360?

SE just said that that the western markets are growing

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#122 omarguy01
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"Does this mean the 360 is about to get a lot more love from Square Enix? I'm looking at you, FFXIII."

we can only hope... :)

common square! dont disappoint us fans :o

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#123 real45
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Yes European and western Market are big
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#124 Gunraidan
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Pffft, Good Luck. They never got a franchise or game for that matter off the ground here.

I literally couldn't care less for the company now a days, but if you look at their track record all the games they tried to get big here failed (Dragon Quest VIII is the poster child of this). While the two franchises they did get popular here got so in a "special" way.

SONY was the one who marketed FFVII for them (the one that made the series popular) and Kingdom Hearts had Disney characters to latch onto. Their other franchises such as Dragon Quest and the Chrono series have been failures in terms of getting mainstream sales.

Also I'm starting to see these (full 360 support confirmed threads) last time I checked people the Wii was leading in the West and the 360 isn't leading in Europe (part of the West). So not all of these probably soon to be failed games will go to the 360.

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#125 haris12121212
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Pffft, Good Luck. They never got a franchise or game for that matter off the ground here.

I literally couldn't care less for the company now a days, but if you look at their track record all the games they tried to get big here failed (Dragon Quest VIII is the poster child of this). While the two franchises they did get popular here got so in a "special" way.

SONY was the one who marketed FFVII for them (the one that made the series popular) and Kingdom Hearts had Disney characters to latch onto. Their other franchises such as Dragon Quest and the Chrono series have been failures in terms of getting mainstream sales.

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So basically didn't include FF and KH, because FF7 was advertised by Sony, and Kingdom Hearts included Disney Characters in it... thats lame of an excuse... There are tons of disney games out there, and yet don't have the succes Kingdom Hearts had (7th best selling PS2 games last gen) And FFX and FF12 didn't have any Sony advertisement and yet are 8th and 9th best selling PS2 games.
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#126 toxicmog
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Duh....

FF 12 is catered for western gamers.

Why do you think its one of the highest selling FF game to new players of the FF series.

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#127 TMontana1004
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why did FFXI flop on the 360? lemmings?flashattackfina

Because it takes hours to get into a server.

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#128 Gunraidan
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Well the first thing SE needs to do is stop the constant whoring of FF/KH/DQ games and give us something fresh and new. They either have to do this or make their games seem fresh in a way that Nintendo does with their IP's.Blackbond

If they, along with all the other Japanese developers, did that then the Core Japanese Gaming Market would still be a healthy and viable market still.

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#129 Gunraidan
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Duh....

FF 12 is catered for western gamers.

Why do you think its one of the highest selling FF game to new players of the FF series.

toxicmog


It was actually the 2nd worse selling in the series after it became popular with VII (1st if you don't count X-2)
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#130 XenoNinja
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Sweet! a Square-enix first person shooter maybe just around the corner.
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#131 jasonharris48
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unless this ff somehow ends up good, no one is going to care, everything past X has blown, and IX sucked also. mtradr43
FFX good? HA! FF9 and FF12 were the last great FF titles tto come out
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#132 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Japan - 3.93 US - 3.09 Others - 2.7

That seems pretty equal. (Millions of sales for FF7)

[QUOTE="hayato_"] Final Fantasy will probably always stay with Sony thoughhayato_

Just like FF stayed with Nintendo?

do you even know why they left nintendo?

Nintendo, for whom Square had developed all previous titles in the Final Fantasy series, had decided to continue to use cartridges for their upcoming Nintendo 64 console. This eventually led to a dispute and as a result, Square eventually decided to end their long, often tumultuous, relationship with Nintendo and announced on January 12, 1996 that they would be developing Final Fantasy VII for Sony's PlayStation system

Hmm cartridges to CD ROM

kind of like the transition from DVD to Blu Ray isn't it

When the 360 comes out with a SKU that has HD DVD then you might see Final Fantasy XIV in the years to follow the Final Fantasy XIII projects, but until then I doubt it

My argument here is that they don't need the Final Fantasy Title in order to impact the 360 sales in the West. With Last Remenant and Infinite Undiscovery they will do just fine ( or time will tell)

It doesn't matter if MS comes out with a SKU with a HD DVD drive. Bcause they'll still use their DVD 9 disc because that will force everybody to up greade and not everyone wants to do that like my self. I own a 360 and love but I dids like HD DVd I own a Blu-Ray player see right there I wouldn't want to upgrade to a different SKU