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#1 Zune_HD
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Final Fantasy XIV is on show at Gamescom, we spoke with director Nobuaki Komoto about Square-Enix's latest MMORPG and the performance of Western developers in Japan.

We asked director Nobuaki Komoto why he feels Final Fantasy XIV will prove more accessible than the daunting Final Fantasy XI.

"We have not been creating FFXIV solely for establishing the genre of MMORPG," Komoto explains, "MMORPG has been selected as a stage for the most attractive game experience and story. I expect that any mainstream gamers, especially those who love RPGs and Final Fantasy, would find their way into the world of FFXIV with ease and start unlocking doors from one to another to enjoy new stories."

"Both are so far virtually unknown to the mass public in Japan and the sales are quite disastrous."

When NowGamer asked Komoto how he felt the game would fare against RPG heavyweights Bethesda and Bioware, the director revealed, "Although I do think both developers are creating great games, unfortunately, both are so far virtually unknown to the mass public in Japan and the sales are quite disastrous, too. They only seem to cater for a handful of core gamers."


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Their loss. They have been by far the best developers throughout this gen.

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#2 mystervj
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Well none of the western developers are successful in Japan.
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#3 Fightingfan
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And Square is unknown for good games this gen.
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#4 Fried_Shrimp
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The Japanese are too strange to enjoy something conventional like a Bioware game.

Proof

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#5 Doom_HellKnight
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Works for me. As long as they're popular over here... :P

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#6 Espada12
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Square fired back a counter punch for all the hating bioware did lol.

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#7 Shirokishi_
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What Bioware need to do is make an Anime inspired/looking game with some of their magic thrown in.

Japan will take notice.

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#8 lundy86_4  Online
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It's not surprising due to the vastly differing tastes. It's a shame devs like Bioware don't do better over there, as they have some of the best games this gen.

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#9 Fightingfan
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What Bioware need to do is make an Anime inspired/looking game with some of their magic thrown in.

Japan will take notice.

Shirokishi_
Don't forget your spiky hair protagonist.
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#10 ujjval16
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What Bioware need to do is make an Anime inspired/looking game with some of their magic thrown in.

Japan will take notice.

Fightingfan
Don't forget your spiky hair protagonist.

With a really big sword :P
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#11 Zune_HD
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And Square is unknown for good games this gen.Fightingfan

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#12 Riverwolf007
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i just can't do j-dev anymore.

it's all so limited and requires me to toe the line and do exactly what they tell me to do in the exact order they want me to do it in.

i guess it's great for story telling but if want a story i will read a novel. if i want to role play these days it's almost down to w-rpg or nothing.

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#13 PBSnipes
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"Western gamers play games like this, but Japanese gamers play games like this!"

http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/marianne-paskowski/2008/12/09/JayLeno.jpg

I don't see the story here. The fact western and Japanese gamers have differing tastes isn't exactly headline news, and I can't imagine anyone is shocked to hear a predominantly PC/Xbox developer like BioWare isn't doing so hot in Japan.

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#14 Yangire
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And a lot of JRPGs that are popular in Japan are "unknown" in the west, it's common sense really.

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#15 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What Bioware need to do is make an Anime inspired/looking game with some of their magic thrown in.

Japan will take notice.

Fightingfan
Don't forget your spiky hair protagonist.

and lots of androgynous looking characters...and underage characters.
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#16 LordQuorthon
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Frankly, Bioware's attacks on Square and the whole Japanese RPG genre is one of the most idiotic episodes in the history of video games. Western guys chose Western RPGs and feel that Japanese RPGs don't deliver the experience they're looking for. That's obvious. Japanese folks like their Japanese RPGs. Making Japanese RPGs more Western or Western RPGs more Japanese is not going to change that. Going all 13-year-old and insulting Japan's most successful RPG developer is not going to make Japanese people dig Bioware's games. In fact, it can be extremely counterproductive.

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#17 WilliamRLBaker
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Frankly, Bioware's attacks on Square and the whole Japanese RPG genre is one of the most idiotic episodes in the history of video games. Western guys chose Western RPGs and feel that Japanese RPGs don't deliver the experience they're looking for. That's obvious. Japanese folks like their Japanese RPGs. Making Japanese RPGs more Western or Western RPGs more Japanese is not going to change that. Going all 13-year-old and insulting Japan's most successful RPG developer is not going to make Japanese people dig Bioware's games. In fact, it can be extremely counterproductive.

LordQuorthon

someone needs to insult them, with all the rampent crap square and enix are releasing this gen.

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#18 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What Bioware need to do is make an Anime inspired/looking game with some of their magic thrown in.

Japan will take notice.

WilliamRLBaker

Don't forget your spiky hair protagonist.

and lots of androgynous looking characters...and underage characters.

Do you mean like the creator of Kingdom hearts, who is a dude.....I THINK.

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#19 Fightingfan
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^^^ OMFG, he must have a Japanese lighting mouse. (Pikachu)
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#20 JangoWuzHere
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Japan is a much smaller country...so yeah

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#21 _Judge_Gabranth
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And Square is unknown for good games this gen.Fightingfan

More like is unknown for good games the last 10 years

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#22 NielsNL
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"Western gamers play games like this, but Japanese gamers play games like this!"

I don't see the story here. The fact western and Japanese gamers have differing tastes isn't exactly headline news, and I can't imagine anyone is shocked to hear a predominantly PC/Xbox developer like BioWare isn't doing so hot in Japan.

PBSnipes

This I agree with

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And Square is unknown for good games this gen.Fightingfan
Why are you attacking them? They didn't attack Bioware at all. :?
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]And Square is unknown for good games this gen.Ragnarok1051
Why are you attacking them? They didn't attack Bioware at all. :?



They just made a point that they weren't worried about competition from the West since Western games don't seem to be popular in Japan. He just stated a fact. I mean hell, Everquest 2 had to create new skins for half their races to make them look more anime-ish when they started marketing to the East.

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#25 bobcheeseball
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That's right Square. Show how awesome you guys are by making awesome new games like Gun Loco.
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#26 FastEddie2121
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What Bioware need to do is make an Anime inspired/looking game with some of their magic thrown in.

Japan will take notice.

ujjval16
Don't forget your spiky hair protagonist.

With a really big sword :P

that shoots bubbles and marshmallows
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#27 Ragnarok1051
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That's right Square. Show how awesome you guys are by making awesome new games like Gun Loco.bobcheeseball
That game will bring constant lulz throughout the end of this generation. Hard to believe SE can make a game that bad looking this late in the console span.
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#28 omho88
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Final Fantasy XIV is on show at Gamescom, we spoke with director Nobuaki Komoto about Square-Enix's latest MMORPG and the performance of Western developers in Japan.

We asked director Nobuaki Komoto why he feels Final Fantasy XIV will prove more accessible than the daunting Final Fantasy XI.

"We have not been creating FFXIV solely for establishing the genre of MMORPG," Komoto explains, "MMORPG has been selected as a stage for the most attractive game experience and story. I expect that any mainstream gamers, especially those who love RPGs and Final Fantasy, would find their way into the world of FFXIV with ease and start unlocking doors from one to another to enjoy new stories."

"Both are so far virtually unknown to the mass public in Japan and the sales are quite disastrous."

When NowGamer asked Komoto how he felt the game would fare against RPG heavyweights Bethesda and Bioware, the director revealed, "Although I do think both developers are creating great games, unfortunately, both are so far virtually unknown to the mass public in Japan and the sales are quite disastrous, too. They only seem to cater for a handful of core gamers."


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Their loss. They have been by far the best developers throughout this gen.

Zune_HD

this is the best sign i have ever seen :lol: On topic: i am not surprised, WRPGs as awhole isn't popular there, why Bioware should be popular then ?

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#29 SaltyMeatballs
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Does that really matter? I'm sure the casual gamers in the west don't know about developers like Level 5 for e.g. I think like we know those type of developers in Japan, the Japanese gamers on forums know about Bioware, etc.
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#30 Birdy09
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I find it quite amusing whats happened this generation. Bioware have been making the same games for over 10 years, all of a sudden they make one witha star wars label, and then a shooter with very light RPG elements and thier typical dialogue approach with UE3 graphics, theyre suddently the best thing since sliced bread to consolites... JRPG developers are doing the same thing, minus the dialogue crap and theyre slated for everything they release. because there isnt superficial bloody options shoved into every one. Bioware are in no position to mock, thier MMO is a WoW clone focusing on SINGLE PLAYER CONTENT that has the most appualing space combat ive ever seen, but it still gets lapped up by casual fanboys.
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#31 IppoTenma
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Eh, this is kinda obvious.
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#32 telefanatic
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Does that really matter? I'm sure the casual gamers in the west don't know about developers like Level 5 for e.g. I think like we know those type of developers in Japan, the Japanese gamers on forums know about Bioware, etc.SaltyMeatballs

I agree with you, most hardcore gamers do know about Bioware in Japan. Its like we know most of theirs.

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#33 BodyElite
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Well none of the western developers are successful in Japan.mystervj
Well none of the western developers are successful in Japan.mystervj
Nothing western is successful in Japan. Japanese have tunnel vision, they don't try anything new outside of their own culture, and it's sad
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#34 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]Well none of the western developers are successful in Japan.BodyElite
Well none of the western developers are successful in Japan.mystervj
Nothing western is successful in Japan. Japanese have tunnel vision, they don't try anything new outside of their own culture, and it's sad

You could make the arguement that a culture as unique/different as thiers should remain that way, otherwise it would eventually become consumed.... and I would be be bored of existance if UK and US culture was the only option, couldnt get more boring if I tried (im british before im jumped on :P )
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#35 205212669269561485377169522720
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Square is a Japanese company so they will say that they aren't very successful in Japan, despite Japan does not equate the world.

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#36 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]And Square is unknown for good games this gen._Judge_Gabranth

More like is unknown for good games the last 10 years

TWEWY. Now please take that ignorance of yours and leave.

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#37 andalore
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The Japanese seem to like being told who their characters are in their RPGs, rather than defining who their characters are in games such as Mass Effect, Oblivion etc.

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#38 AfterBurnerZ
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:lol: at people being offended and spouting hyperbole because Square mentioned your precious Bioware.

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Square made some terrific games this gen, they're just on handhelds.
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*waits for Bioware to call final fantasy 14 not an rpg*

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#41 rcignoni
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And Square is unknown for good games this gen.Fightingfan
Zing! Nice one.
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*waits for Bioware to call final fantasy 14 not an rpg*

hawk1317

they probably will do that when they advertise SWTOR.

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#43 elbert_b_23
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it can't be helped the japanese know what is good and not good
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#44 Mr_Cumberdale
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It should stay that way until Bioware develops a good RPG.
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#45 hakanakumono
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Square is a Japanese company so they will say that they aren't very successful in Japan, despite Japan does not equate the world.

sanim02

People generally take things in the context of the country they live in.

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#46 88mphSlayer
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Square should publish Bioware games in Japan, just so we can watch anti-east/west rpg nerds' heads explode

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#47 hakanakumono
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Square should publish Bioware games in Japan, just so we can watch anti-east/west rpg nerds' heads explode

88mphSlayer

They'll just assume it's a western game. Some Japnaese people don't even know that Resident Evil is Japanese because of the emphasis on guns and ****.

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*waits for Bioware to call final fantasy 14 not an rpg*

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*waits for Square Enix to call final fantasy 14 not an rpg* www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=214414
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]Well none of the western developers are successful in Japan.BodyElite
Well none of the western developers are successful in Japan.mystervj
Nothing western is successful in Japan. Japanese have tunnel vision, they don't try anything new outside of their own culture, and it's sad

This

The Japanese seem very xenophobic about all western games, despite how good they might be. Hell they don't even sell western games so the consumer would not even get the chance to play it.

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#50 hakanakumono
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You can see what Japanese people are playing via nico nico douga. The Japanese upload a lot more gamplay videos than we do, from closeted nerds to school girls. You can see quite a few western games on there, such as Fallout 3, but it's true that they're not as common.