Square: "Bioware is unknown in Japan"

Frankly, Bioware's attacks on Square and the whole Japanese RPG genre is one of the most idiotic episodes in the history of video games.

LordQuorthon

Final Fantasy XIV is on show at Gamescom, we spoke with director Nobuaki Komoto about Square-Enix's latest MMORPG and the performance of Western developers in Japan.

We asked director Nobuaki Komoto why he feels Final Fantasy XIV will prove more accessible than the daunting Final Fantasy XI.

"We have not been creating FFXIV solely for establishing the genre of MMORPG," Komoto explains, "MMORPG has been selected as a stage for the most attractive game experience and story. I expect that any mainstream gamers, especially those who love RPGs and Final Fantasy, would find their way into the world of FFXIV with ease and start unlocking doors from one to another to enjoy new stories."

"Both are so far virtually unknown to the mass public in Japan and the sales are quite disastrous."

When NowGamer asked Komoto how he felt the game would fare against RPG heavyweights Bethesda and Bioware, the director revealed, "Although I do think both developers are creating great games, unfortunately, both are so far virtually unknown to the mass public in Japan and the sales are quite disastrous, too. They only seem to cater for a handful of core gamers."

Link.

Their loss. They have been by far the best developers throughout this gen.

Zune_HD

In other news, the sky is blue and grass is green.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

How dare Square release a Final Fantasy as low as 8.5. It's not perfect, therefore utter trash.

siLVURcross

Edit: Oh and it was a statement. Those games don't do well because they are just boring to the public over there. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything they should try harder. Even with all the hate Square has had, most of there titles are globally wanted.

And Square is unknown for good games this gen.Fightingfan

The Japanese are too strange to enjoy something conventional like a Bioware game.

Proof

Fried_Shrimp

That movie looks awesome.

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] It was utter boringhayato_

Edit: Oh and it was a statement. Those games don't do well because they are just boring to the public over there. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything they should try harder. Even with all the hate Square has had, most of there titles are globally wanted.

I cant even take you seriously. "THEY" are both really good developers and have and continue to put out great games. What have you done? Maybe you should try harder.

[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

The Japanese are too strange to enjoy something conventional like a Bioware game.

Proof

morrowindnic

That movie looks awesome.

Its true though :|

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="ujjval16"] With a really big sword :PSaudiFury

Dont forget Gender confusion

hehe. Well it's nice to know I'm not the only one who thinks this

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its true though :|

DroidPhysX

Its also true that, in this gen, SE made good gam---err...nevermind....

The World Ends With you was a fantastic game :|

And what does your witty comment have to do with the thread at hand?

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its true though :|

ActicEdge

Its also true that, in this gen, SE made good gam---err...nevermind....

The World Ends With you was a fantastic game :|

And what does your witty comment have to do with the thread at hand?

I really dont know anymore:P

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its true though :|

ActicEdge

Its also true that, in this gen, SE made good gam---err...nevermind....

The World Ends With you was a fantastic game :|

And what does your witty comment have to do with the thread at hand?

Square is semi right I didn't know about bioware till the Starwars MMO thing was announced with the recently mass effect 2 is coming to ps3 so I could see how the average japan gamer can miss it.

Square is semi right I didn't know about bioware till the Starwars MMO thing was announced with the recently mass effect 2 is coming to ps3 so I could see how the average japan gamer can miss it.

Santesyu

Are you Japanese? o_O;

lol at the people attacking JPRG's for all being the same at it's core gameplay. Well guess what rabid Bioware fanboys all their games are the same storywise and at it's core gameplay.

works for me, they can play JRPG's until the end of time for all i care.

works for me, they can play the same JRPG's until the end of time for all i care.

Evolution-X0

Like you are playing the same Bioware game over and over again only with a different skin.

[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"]

works for me, they can play the same JRPG's until the end of time for all i care.

loadedboon

Like you are playing the same Bioware game over and over again only with a different skin.

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"]

works for me, they can play the same JRPG's until the end of time for all i care.

Evolution-X0

Like you are playing the same Bioware game over and over again only with a different skin.

Oh rly? The story in DAO and ME2 at it's core and how it plays out are exactly the same. Please tell me how the main storyline and how it plays out are so different in bioware games except for a different skin to the game? Like i said remove the fanboy goggles.

Even Dragon age 2 is going to use the same dialogue system as ME2.

[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"][QUOTE="loadedboon"]

Like you are playing the same Bioware game over and over again only with a different skin.

loadedboon

Oh rly? The story in DAO and ME2 at it's core and how it plays out are exactly the same. Please tell me how the main storyline and how it plays out are so different in bioware games except for a different skin to the game? Like i said remove the fanboy goggles.

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"] What you said was completely stupid as you cant tell the difference between Dragon Age and Mass Effect. but as you see i was talking about RPG's in general.Evolution-X0

Oh rly? The story in DAO and ME2 at it's core and how it plays out are exactly the same. Please tell me how the main storyline and how it plays out are so different in bioware games except for a different skin to the game? Like i said remove the fanboy goggles.

Replace the scifi setting with fantasy setting, change the reapers with darkspawn, change the counsel with the wardens, change Sarek with that guy from DAO (can't remember his name) and to top it all off the main story is exactly the same. Instead of the universe being threatened it's the world and only you can save it. So who is the fanboy or the idiot?

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What Bioware need to do is make an Anime inspired/looking game with some of their magic thrown in.

Japan will take notice.

Fightingfan

[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"][QUOTE="loadedboon"]

Oh rly? The story in DAO and ME2 at it's core and how it plays out are exactly the same. Please tell me how the main storyline and how it plays out are so different in bioware games except for a different skin to the game? Like i said remove the fanboy goggles.

loadedboon

Replace the scifi setting with fantasy setting, change the reapers with darkspawn, change the counsel with the wardens, change Sarek with that guy from DAO (can't remember his name) and to top it all off the main story is exactly the same. Instead of the universe being threatened it's the world and only you can save it. So who is the fanboy or the idiot?

frankly anybody who posts in system wars, lets be honest

anyway this is some good drama, hopefully it continues to blow up. though it does seem like se is a typically messageboard tryhard getting straight up trolled. like bioware basically says something like 'ya jrpgs are mega boring lol BORING' and then se writes like a six page rebuttal. then bioware goes 'tldr jrpg super boring'

either way, int he end it will only supply us with entertainment so i encourage this wholesale. maybe we can even get some pro wrestling style promos.

And Square is unknown for good games this gen.Fightingfan

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]And Square is unknown for good games this gen.shani_boy101

It's funny, because one of my fave RPG's is a western-styled RPG made by a Japanese dev (Demon's Souls!!!) My other favourite is Risen, a European RPG.

Seems there's way too much slinging on both sides.. they both think they're the heavy-hitters for RPG's in their respective geographical locations, but for a lot of RPG fans, they're both stale and worn thin, and we look for our fix in more interesting games.

Japanese people will NEVER transcend and open their minds, that's what I think.Salt_The_Fries

Just like you people close your eyes and won't give jprg's a chance. See what i did here?

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Japanese people will NEVER transcend and open their minds, that's what I think.loadedboon

Just like you people close your eyes and won't give jprg's a chance. See what i did here?

[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"][QUOTE="loadedboon"]

Oh rly? The story in DAO and ME2 at it's core and how it plays out are exactly the same. Please tell me how the main storyline and how it plays out are so different in bioware games except for a different skin to the game? Like i said remove the fanboy goggles.

loadedboon

Replace the scifi setting with fantasy setting, change the reapers with darkspawn, change the counsel with the wardens, change Sarek with that guy from DAO (can't remember his name) and to top it all off the main story is exactly the same. Instead of the universe being threatened it's the world and only you can save it. So who is the fanboy or the idiot?

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Japanese people will NEVER transcend and open their minds, that's what I think.Salt_The_Fries

Just like you people close your eyes and won't give jprg's a chance. See what i did here?

That wasn't directly directed at you or other people who play both. Just the people with the racist remarks and stereotyping the JRPG while WRPG (and especially the Bioware "RPG's") are no different. It's the same thing everytime. People here act like every new WRPG is the epidome of originality while it's not. Not saying either are bad but this stereotyping for JRPG's has to stop because like i said WRPG's are no different.

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"] Ya, Rly! What your saying is that they both play the same? Now looks who's the fanboy... seriously if you cant tell the difference between them then you either not played them or an idiot.Evolution-X0

Replace the scifi setting with fantasy setting, change the reapers with darkspawn, change the counsel with the wardens, change Sarek with that guy from DAO (can't remember his name) and to top it all off the main story is exactly the same. Instead of the universe being threatened it's the world and only you can save it. So who is the fanboy or the idiot?

Oh rly, I didn't play them? Do you want my STEAM ID so you can see i played ME1, ME2 and DAO?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="AfterBurnerZ"]

:lol: at people being offended and spouting hyperbole because Square mentioned your precious Bioware.

siLVURcross

You keep posting as if handhelds matter or count.

[QUOTE="AfterBurnerZ"]

:lol: at people being offended and spouting hyperbole because Square mentioned your precious Bioware.

WilliamRLBaker

That´s not a surprise to me,the Japanese audience is very ethnocentric and is usually only focused on their market,with very few exceptions.

The Japanese should open their mind and broaden their horizons about western developed games,they are way to close minded about them,unlike we are.

They are just limiting themselves,and that´s a damn shame.

[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"][QUOTE="loadedboon"]

Replace the scifi setting with fantasy setting, change the reapers with darkspawn, change the counsel with the wardens, change Sarek with that guy from DAO (can't remember his name) and to top it all off the main story is exactly the same. Instead of the universe being threatened it's the world and only you can save it. So who is the fanboy or the idiot?

loadedboon

Oh rly, I didn't play them? Do you want my STEAM ID so you can see i played ME1, ME2 and DAO?

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="Evolution-X0"] Wait, What? Now i want to finish this up because this argument is going nowhere. Firstly, I did not once say that I hated JRPG's in general and I did not once say "BIOWARE IS THE BEST COMPANY EVA". So where do you get your accusations from i have no idea. Secondly, why are you comparing the story and the way that you compared it was pretty pathetic.. Thirdly, Gameplay differences? You didn't even compare them. Is it because you cant, you did not even play them and that you looked at the plot from typing it in goggle? IEvolution-X0

Oh rly, I didn't play them? Do you want my STEAM ID so you can see i played ME1, ME2 and DAO?

Think whatever you want. The only truth here is you are the one who won't see the obvious and then point your finger at others claiming they are fanboys :lol:

And Square is unknown for good games this gen.Fightingfan

For consoles that is. Handhelds are a different story.

That´s not a surprise to me,the Japanese audience is very ethnocentric and is usually only focused on their market,with very few exceptions.

The Japanese should open their mind and broaden their horizons about western developed games,they are way to close minded about them,unlike we are.

They are just limiting themselves,and that´s a damn shame.

Arach666

Square should be thanking their lucky stars. If more people knew about ME2, FFXIII wouldn't have sold 10 copies.musicalmac

What Bioware need to do is make an Anime inspired/looking game with some of their magic thrown in.

Japan will take notice.

Shirokishi_

lol, they are probably going to look like characters from Ben10

I cant believe it, its the same syndrome people have with blizzard, a fanboy complex where they cant do any wrong. Dragon Age - a crap storied version of Baldurs Gate .... infact, other than graphics and modern talking technology :lol: its an inferior, shorter and milder game in general, yet ofc, even lacking things that NWN 1&2 brought to the picture with great online systems... whats that Bioware? couldnt be bothered? oh... but teh GS 9.5 means that DA is the top notch of this style RPG right? :roll: .... ugh. Mass Effect - Popularity heavily based on graphics AND IT BEING A SHOOTER! yea ok, fun games, but bragging about the popularity of a godamn game thats aimed at the shooter fad with very VERY light RPG elements beyond optional dialogue is laughable at best. FF13 can be mocked for its characters, its story style and linearity, but god at least they gave a damn about the combat, itemization and challenge, unlike Bioware, which barely every do those things correctly.Birdy09

Looks like someone has his rose colored glasses on...

Dragon Age was great. This is coming from a person who played Planescape Torment, which of course is better, but still DA:O is not a bad game and is quite good.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

That´s not a surprise to me,the Japanese audience is very ethnocentric and is usually only focused on their market,with very few exceptions.

The Japanese should open their mind and broaden their horizons about western developed games,they are way to close minded about them,unlike we are.

They are just limiting themselves,and that´s a damn shame.

LongZhiZi

I think you'd agree that PC gaming is a very non-Japanese thing. So if you were to make a PC game/port, it would be only appealing to non-Japanese consumers. If Japanese gamers are so closed-minded and Western consumers are so open-minded, why do we typically not see JRPGs on the PC? It's not like Square-Enix has an aversion to PC gaming, as they publish all of their Western developed games on the PC. Logically, if Western-gamers were truly so open-minded, certainly you'd want to get it on every platform possible (and if I recall correctly, the engine that powers FF13 was also designed for the PC) so a PC version would be a no-brainer.

Well,I believe that the question you ask can only be answered by SE,they are the ones that have the power to release the FF SP games on the PC,and yet they don´t.

There are some explanations to that though.

First,the PC gaming market is more oriented to PC franchises,not console ports or franchises that have origins on the consoles. The FF franchise is clearly a console oriented franchise,it´s not because it´s of Japanese origin.

You can see that FFXIII sold exteremely well in here on both consoles(and one of those consoles isn´t Japanese),and that is kind of my point.They are console franchises,they will always sell better on consoles.

Piracy can be another barrier for SE,but considering that many PC games(keyword being PC) sell by the millions,that really isn´t an excuse.

Besides,western consumers are indeed more open minded to Japanese games,if you see the sales numbers in the US and Europe of games like SMG2 or FFXIII(among many others),you can state that they sell millions,while the top US/EU games seel very poorly there.

Let me give you an example: Little big Planet is a game that,considering the taste of Japanese gamers for platformers and for the style of the game itself,should have been a success in Japan.

Why wasn´t it then? Because it wasn´t developed by a Japanese company...

SE is indeed focusing their efforts on a PC FF game though,and that will come at least 6 months before the console version,wich is something,I guess.

Then again,it´s an MMO,and SE knows that the PC market is way stronger than the console market in that regard,and it´s the comple opposite for usual SP JRPG´s.