SSBB Versus Halo....IN ****ING DEPTH.

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#1 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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Hello all, I'm Tsug_Ze_Wind, and despite being a sheep, I've been playing Halo 3 every day since the day after it came out. I'm also mega-hyped for Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and today I'm going to do something that I'm sure has never been done before: Compare the two games!

*vomiting occurs*

And without pretty pictures!

*vomiting intensifies*

Yeah, yeah, I realize that Average Joe just made an SSBB vs. Halo 3 thread, and Average Bob just made a thread complaining about how many SSBB vs. Halo threads there are. But I'm afraid I'll have to tell you to take your disgust and shove it, because this thread's going to be different. We're going to compare the two games....IN DEPTH.

*puts IN DEPTH glasses on*

Let's begin.

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Before we venture into IN DEPTH territory, we have to start with what Average Joe was on about, much to Average Bob's lament. I don't know Average Joe, nor have I seen his thread (or watched the show that shares a name with this generic fictional character), but we can assume he was comparing sales, and multiplayer fun factor.

SKIP THIS PART - YOU'VE HEARD IT

Sales: It's hard to tell. Both games will last through the generation, and while the Wii has a chance of a bigger base of people who would buy the game, the reality is that right now the 360 has a bigger base of people who play Halo than Wii does people who will play SSBB. But since SSBB hasn't come out yet, I can take the cowardly route and deploy the W8-N-C card.

Verdict: W8-N-C

Multiplayer: Oh noes, subjective territory! Different genres! EEK!

I'll show you why SSBB is the winner here as we go more IN DEPTH, but for those who have finished reading here, SSBB wins.

BORING STUFF ARE DONE!

Ladies & Gentlemen...it is now time to go...slighty more IN DEPTH.

Single Player- Ah, the least important category for a multiplayer game comparison. Or is it the most important, the breaker of the stalemate, where the debate turns into situations that will never happen, where you become so desperate that you play by yourself!

Ehh, some people find it really important, plus I am going IN DEPTH, so let's do this.

Gameplay: Depending on who you ask, Halo's campaign is either a journey to heaven where the roads are paved with gold and kittens, or a heaping pile of dung only to be explored by achievement-hunting masochists. Also, it's short.

Meanwhile, everyone loves side-scrollers. Given that if I want to shoot people that squeal at me, I can easily do so in Halo's multiplayer, I'm going to say SSBB wins here. Oh, and if you don't know...

Verdict: SSBB

Protagonist: Mario vs. Master Chi-HAHAHAHA. I can't even say it. Let's try again. Kirby vs. Master Chi-HAHAHAHA.

Nope.

Verdict: SSBB

Plot: In this corner, we have a plot so easily digested yet so casually complex that parts of it must be in book form, critical acclaim including comparisons to Star Wars. In this corner, a ton of recognizable and iconic Nintendo characters, with some sort of link...

Link

(there, one pic for a pun, that's all you get)

...joining them together, critical acclaim including "OMG mah Kirby iz beatin' joo Marios lulz."

Hey, who knows, the plot could be excellent. But common sense doesn't evade my sheep mind, so I'll give the nod for plot to Halo. Oh, what a devastating loss indeed.

Verdict: Halo

Level Design: From what I've heard, SSBB's SP level design isn't looking so hot right now. On the other hand, remember the level Cortana?

Verdict: Tie

Ending: Um....I liek waffles.

Verdict: Waffles

Reward: We don't know for sure if this is the case yet, but unlocking characters >>>> Achievements. Even if you get way too much for completing the campaign (seriously, why do all the multiplayer achievements only give you a piddly 5?!)

Oh yeah, and the Legendary ending...go back to plot, you plotheads.

Verdict: SSBB

So it looks like SSBB won in single-player by a landslide, despite not knowing diddly-squat about the SP yet. I'm just that awesome.

Co-op - Co-op seems to be big for some people. I'm sure we all remember the big fuss over Halo's: "OMG no 4-player co-op LOL!!" "OMG 4-player co-op!" "OMG no online co-op LOL!!" "OMG online co-op!" "OMG!!!"

SSBB was less so, but still similar. "OMG they haven't revealed co-op yet! SSBB doesn't have co-op OMG LOL!!" "OMG you're wrong!!" "OMG etc!!"

Pretty sad. But they both have it, they're both online, and it's time to go...IN DEPTH.

Difficulty: Co-op play in Halo 3 goes something like this:

"Hello good friend, fancy a stroll through the park?"

"Why, I say that sounds like a splendid idea!"

"Are we not playing on the Legendary difficulty?"

"I have forgotten! Lalalalala...."

SSBB's co-op could be as easy, but unproven >>>>> proven to be easy.

Verdict: SSBB

Online: Eep.

Verdict: Halo

Fun: Halo's co-op is fun. Side-scroller co-op is fun. For fear of being whacked with the opinion stick, I'm going to say both are just lovely! I crap rainbows! Don't hit me.

Verdict: Tie

And co-op is a complete tie. But wait, there's more!

Events vs. Metagame: Metagame = "Ooh! Let's play through the campaign again, except this time numbers are associated with everything we do!

Events, meanwhile, are the most difficult and the most entertaining (who didn't keep playing Super Mario 128 after they'd completed it? As Jigglypuff?) things that SSBB single-player has to offer.

Verdict: Events

It only goes up from here, remember.

CONTINUED IN NEXT POST - DO NOT POST IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE

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Nice thread.
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Nice Thread.
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Kinda sleepy, I'll read later. Glad you didn't say "good read" LOL
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What is this attack of the SSBB thread day?

anyways to the point, I've always found Halo fairly shallow in gameplay anyways.

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Continued from last post.

Sound - What you are listening to with your ears. As opposed to something else.

Music: Halo's can set the epic mood, but it gets repetitive. Fast.

SSBB's got everything covered in this category. Check.It.Out.

Verdict: SSBB

Voice Acting: I still don't want Link or Samus to speak. So there.

Verdict: Halo

Controls - How you manipulate the controller to perform actions, or "own fools,"onscreen.

Accessibility: SSBB and Halo are two very popular games, and both are going to be host to non-gamers at some point. So, it's very important that both the games don't confuse new players with their controls. Admittedly, FPS games have always had a problem with this. All I have to say is: TOO BAD!

Verdict: SSBB

Controlling Options: Halo has button layout, look sensitivity (which doesn't really count, since you wouldn't need such a feature in SSBB), and the much-improved crouching. SSBB has four controller options, and button layouts. And, um, the Footstool Jump.

Verdict: SSBB

Unlockable Stuff- Oh! Teh suspense! It's the key to keep playing, after all.

Important Things: SSBB's got levels and characters. That's pretty important. Halo...the Legendary ending?

Verdict: SSBB

Less Important Things: SSBB's music is unlocked, but the nod goes to Halo and the massive achievementage from beating the campaign. And the suits. (although I'm still pissed that only Spartans get Hayabusa. So unfair.)

Verdict: Halo

Not So Much Important Things: SSBB has trophies and stickers. Ooo.

Verdict: SSBB

Other Random Modes That Aren't the Main Multiplayer- I'd say it's pretty self-explanatory.

Saved Films VS. Replays: I love watching things! Especially when I actually care!

What we've got here is two awesome additions to the games. Unfortunately, one has a time limit, while the other doesn't.

Verdict: Saved Films

Forge VS. Stage Builder: Creating levels >>> Editing levels. Plus, I guarantee you that SSBB's stagebuilder will not be nearly as hard to use, or as frustratingly buggy, as Forge. Forge's concept is neat, but there's no Forge Matchmaking, and most of the time you'll just be making maps for gametypes anyway.

Verdict: Stage Builder

This is a knock-down, drag-out fight, but now it's time for both games to show their not-so-hidden POWAH!

Teh multiplayer of all importance - Time for the meat - the main game. Multiplayer. And by multiplayer, I mean the main multiplayer mode in which you fight against each other in some fashion. Some fashion that isn't Forge.

First off - The fashion in which you play against each other that isn't Forge.

Gametypes - This is the fashion in which...I think you get it.

FIGHT!

Custom Gametypes VS. Special Brawl: What is Special Brawl?! This.

Special Brawl looks really cool, but what it's going to come down to is, unless I'm missing something, you can only save your custom playlist in Halo. Saved by a save feature.

Verdict: Custom Gametypes

Various Incomparable Halo Gametypes VS. Various Incomparable SSBB Gametypes:

Halo: CTF and variants, Oddball and variants, Slayer and variants, Assault and variants, VIP and variants, Juggernaut and variants, King of the Hill and variants, Territories and variants, Infection and variants, variants of variants, variants of those variants, and my uncle Fred. And variants.

SSBB: Stock, Time, Coin, Bonus, Tourney, Target Smash, Home-Run Contest, and....Spectator.

Y'see, SSBM would actually be more competitive here, but all of the extra Special Melee types have all fused into Special Brawl. So it's a case of having the stuff but not the numbers.

Verdict: Various Halo etc.

The fight just got closer. This is getting exciting, or at least it would be if I didn't spoil who wins at the beginning.

Levels- And then, Halo fans felt a sense of dread. They knew what was coming.

GO!

Construct VS. Rumble Falls: Picked because, despite being big levels, the action tends to gravitate towards one area.

I love Construct. I have, liek, this custom map on Construct, and it's, liek, totally sweet. I hate Icicle Mountain. Rumble Falls looks better, but it's the map to replace Icicle Mountain. The only real problem with Construct is that people only use 1/5 of the level, but hey, if people want to be pwned by the guy with the sword, that's their choice.

Verdict: Construct

Epitaph VS. Shadow Moses Island: Picked because they're both dark and spoooooooooky!!

I'm sorry, but does Epitaph have any fans? I'm a fan. I turned the gloomy level into a discotheque in Forge.

Metal Gear has fans. Lemmings seem to really want MGS4 to come to the 360. We have more MGS than you! Nyah nyah!

Oh yeah, and Shadow Moses Island looks awesome. Read.Against Epitaph? Even lemmings can't disagree.

Verdict: Shadow Moses Island

Guardian VS. Battlefield: Picked because, when you want a simplistic level and don't want Final Destination/Narrows, these are the levels to go to.

I was never a fan of Battlefield, myself. Just seemed bland, but not like Final Destination, where it was great for testing skill. Plus, it has competition from....every other similar level. And there is a lot.

Guardian? You're cool with me.

Verdict: Guardian

Isolation VS. Smashville: Picked because they're both happy levels! ....With hidden evil lurking within. (7,000 Bells for a #%$&@ FAKE painting?! **** you Redd.)

Isolation doesn't come up nearly enough in Matchmaking. There hasn't been nearly been enough Animal Crossing in fighting games.

...I'm sorry, I can't continue. That is just too awesome. Animal Crossing. Genius.

Verdict: Smashville

Narrows VS. Bridge of Eldin: Picked because...must I?

Narrows has fans. Narrows also has haters. The haters far outnumber the fans. It's true, and there's a reason why. Despite being a long, symmetrical level, it's not easily navigated, making it frustrating for players who haven't spent enough time on the map. And why would they spend time learning the ins and outs of a map they hate?

Meanwhile, the Bridge looks to be just what everyone wants: A flat, long, narrow level. Plus, it looks awesome.

Verdict: Bridge of Eldin

High Ground VS. Castle Siege: Picked because in High Ground, one team...is invading. So then, that's like....a castle siege. Shut up!

High Ground's kind of an average level. It's alright, but it could've been better if it was a bigger level.

Castle Siege, meanwhile, has "epic" all over it. From the opening area's chaotic feel, to the throne room with the breakable statues looking all fancy and stuff, and then you fall into the underground, which is a secret! Ooo! Pshow pshow BOOOM!

Joking aside, presentation is important. Castle Siege nails it, High Ground had potential, but it's just too bland.

Verdict: Castle Siege

Last Resort VS. Pokemon Stadium 2: Picked because they're returning favorites.

Hmm...actually, there's really not much else to compare with these two levels. So they'll just have to sit and drink tea on the sidelines.

Verdict: What? Would you like some tea, sir?

Sandtrap VS. New Pork City: Picked because they're both BIG, and we need more big levels in both games. We want MEAT!

Sandtrap is everyone's favorite level. So much so that they even play Infection on it, a gametype totally not meant for that level at all. (By the way, everyone that does that and thinks it's totally original to have fast jumping zombies that can't catch up to a lone Warthog, stop.) New Pork's got the big and the potential, but if Sandtrap loses here, I fear for my well-being.

Verdict: Sandtrap

The Pit VS. Lylat Cruise: Picked because, really, isn't space just one big pit?

First off, everyone is sick of The Pit. EVERYONE. Even people that haven't played Halo 3, or people that have never played a video game, or my pet cat...everyone is sick of Shotty Snipers on The Pit being every other game in Matchmaking. Really, go stop someone on the street and ask them if they're sick of Shotty Snipers on The Pit. Do it. And YouTube it. I need something to watch.

Then we have Lylat Cruise, which is in no way like the previous Star Fox stages. I'm picking Lylat Cruise, because it's refreshing, it's cool, and most importantly: It's not The Pit.

Verdict: Lylat Cruise

Snowbound VS. The Summit: Picked because they're both cold and soulless, like their inhabitants. I mean, look into Popo's eyes. Pitch black. Or is this Nana?

The Summit looks awesome, which is good, because I love the Ice Climbers. Snowbound...well, not many people seem to like poor Snowbound. I'd say it doesn't come up enough in Matchmaking, but it probably does more than I think, it's just that everyone but me vetoes it. The people, I suppose, have spoken.

Verdict: The Summit

Valhalla VS. Yoshi's Island: Picked because you can't snipe in Valhalla. You also can't snipe in Yoshi's Island.

I've always thought Valhalla was a good level...that has some crippling design mistakes. Like how you can walk directly up a base, take a flag, and then launch of the man-cannon to halfway-there status - not fun. Likewise, the Yoshi's Island's are always too small, and this one seems positively microscopic. One the other hand, the Support Ghost and background changes are cool.

Ehh, tie.

Verdict: Tie

All the other SSBB levels VS. Nothing: Picked because Halo needs more levels.

Here's where it gets one-sided. Delfino Plaza, Skyworld, WarioWare, Battleship Halberd, PictoChat, Norfair, more than one returning stage from Melee, and other levels not yet revealed, PLUS more unlockable levels. BAM!

Verdict: SSBB

Halo is, I think everyone can agree, a bit level-challenged. SSBB sweeps here, and we move on to...oh my.

Characters- Oh, uh...we can skip this part.

Verdict: SSBB

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You people saying "nice thread" just ruined his thread by posting when he said don't.
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Continued from last post.

Items - Items. Things you pick up that do things. That would include weapons, grenades, equipment, (kind of) vehicles,and....items.

DO BATTLE!

Plasma Grenade VS. Gooey Bomb: Picked for obvious reasons.

See, it's hard to judge items here. If we just judge by effiency, I don't think that's completely fair. Halo's weapons all have to compete with each other, whereas SSBB's items can be as random (and as bad) as they can be. I'm going to judge by effiency and fun, and creativity. (I know Halo fans just groaned at that last one. Heh.)

But, the plasma grenade wins here. Far more efficient, it kills in one hit, and can't be returned to sender (unless they really **** up). The Gooey Bomb may be more fun, but the plasma grenade is fun too. I'm sure some of you Halo fans can share plenty of sticking stories.

Verdict: Plasma Grenade

Brute Shot vs. Cracker Launcher: Picked because they're held the same and are both explosive weaponry.

Let's get this out there: The Brute Shot sucks. It can't kill people without getting lucky unless it uses its blade, at which point it's a second-rate sword. Even if the Cracker Launcher literally fired crackers, it would be more efficient than the Brute Shot.

I like the Brute Shot, the way it looks, the feel of it. But this is the undeniable truth, and being so unusable that you'd only touch it when desperate, isn't that much fun either.

Verdict: Cracker Launcher

Boxes VS....Frag Grenades? Picked because...they're common...and they go boom.

Boxes now have more tricks. You can stand atop them, their look changes to suit the level, and some of them can slide! Which means they're no longer just for picking up with DK and jumping off cliffs! (Wait, I was the only one that did that? What about setting no items and busting empty boxes over people's heads? No? You guys are no fun.)

Frag grenades, meanwhile, were NERFED from Halo 2. And I mean NERFED. Let me say it again: NERFED.

Verdict: Boxes

Banana Peel VS. Trip Mine: Picked because they do about the same level of damage, i'm sure.

Seriously, why doesn't the Trip Mine kill in one hit? You can hear it, you can EASILY see it, it's not like it would be unbalanced to blow up an unsuspecting run-'n-gunner. It ticks me off, because the Trip Mine would be really awesome (and fun) if it was good.

Ooh, I'm so mad. I'm gonna pout in my corner.

Verdict: Banana Peel

Bumper VS. Deployable Cover: Picked because they're similar.

What, you don't think they're similar? This one time, a guy jumped over an abyss in Guardian to attack me, and I plopped down the Cover right on the ledge. Bye.

But, the Bumper is clearly better at doing that. The Deployable Cover is more for fun than efficiency, stalling out simple firefights and sealing you off from a fight when cornered. The problem? It's too damn easy to destroy, and the Bumper can do mostly the same thing when deployed at the right time and place.

Verdict: Bumper

Pitfall vs. Active Camo: Picked because if you don't notice them, you will get owned.

Pitfall clearly wins in fun. I don't care how much fun YOU'RE having, Mr. Sicko with Camo and a sword going around assassinating people, because the recieving end ain't laughing. The Pitfall's my type of item, it may not be the motion-sensor bomb, but it and the Home-Run Bat or the Hammer? Great friends.

Verdict: Pitfall

Smoke Ball vs. Flash: Picked for obvious reasons.

Smoke Ball wins here, because of the genius behind the Flash in that YOU CAN STILL SEE THE OPPONENT'S NAME if you're already looking at them! Brilliant.

Verdict: Smoke Ball

Franklin Badge VS. Bubble Shield: Picked for obvious reasons.

Bubble Shield wins simply for the fact that projectiles are far more common in Halo than in SSBB, y'know, everyone having guns and all. Plus, it looks cool.

Verdict: Bubble Shield

Fire Flower VS. Flamethrower: Obvious.

I do wish the flamethrower in Halo was better. The problem with having a slow-moving close range weapon is...it's not fast, and not long range? But I like the destructive power it has once you finally reach an opponent somehow.

The Fire Flower? Annoying, and that's about it. I'll take flawed over frustrating.

Verdict: Flamethrower

Golden Hammer VS. Gravity Hammer: Shut up! It's obvious!

This is a tough one. Funky, physics-altering hammer of teh future, or hyped-up hectic hamster hammer of teh squeaky?

I just can't decide.

Verdict: Tie

Beam Sword VS. Energy Sword: ....

The Beam Sword has always been solid, if not spectacular. The Energy Sword has always been spectacular, if not "OMG stopping teh wh0ring you s0rd n00b aaauuugghhh!!"

Is that fun? .... .... ....Yes. Yes it is.

Verdict: Energy Sword

Superspicy Curry VS. Firebomb Grenade: Picked because of equal hazard and deadliness.

Hmm...mmm...mmm...Yep.

Verdict: Tie

Freezie VS. Power Drain: Picked because of usefulness.

Both pretty efficient as far as items/equipment goes.

Verdict: Tie

Super Mushroom VS. Overshield: Picked for obvious reasons.

Super Mushroom beats the Overshield in both fun and efficiency, as the defense the Overshield provides is...how to say this....teh suck. "Woohoo, I die one millisecond later against a machine gun turret!"

Verdict: Super Mushroom

Home-Run Bat VS. Machine Gun Turret: Picked for pure awesome.

The machine gun turret is nuts, as long as you don't run into a Needler. The Home-Run Bat can combo with anything that holds the opponent in place for a second. Sorry, but to declare a winner here is trying to slam a revolving door. (Which is actually completely possible - but I'd rather not take the time to do it.)

Verdict: Tie

Super Scope VS. SMG: Picked because they're both rapid-fire, and more annoying than useful.

What is the Super Scope used for? Being a prick and holding people in place while not accomplishing anything. The SMG's got the not-accomplishing-anything part down...

I like the SMG. It's fun when you make everyone fast and high-jumping with infinite ammo and 1 HP - but if you actually want to kill someone normally, you have to dual with the Plasma Pistol - at which point you could use a much better weapon.

But on the other hand, the Super Scope isn't fun unless the wielder charges it up, or ismoving with it. Annoyingness versus pure ineffeciency - who wins? I'd say the thing that's actualy usable in this case.

Smart Bomb VS. Spartan Laser: Picked because of awesome.

I don't know about you, but 99 Stock Sudden Death with only Smart Bombs on Very High is in my future. The Spartan Laser, awesome though it is, is too slow for that much awesomenessat once.

Verdict: Smart Bomb

Lots of other Halo items VS. Poke Balls and Assist Trophies

So, uh...Halo's got a lot more weapons. And vehicles. It's going to take quite a few Dojo updates to catch up to that. Well, we were going pretty good for a while there.

Although, Poke Balls (and undoubtebly Assist Trophies) are the most fun items in SSB. So if I were to actually compare, it would be close. So there.

Verdict: Halo

Online- Oh, here we go again.

Verdict: Halo

So in multiplayer, SSBB has the better levels, more variety with characters (teh obvious), but as of right now Halo's got more in the gadget department (that came out wrong, I swear) and online. So why does SSBB win in multiplayer fun factor? Because we ain't done here, folks!

Offline Multiplayer - I can hear it now. Save your whiny 'tude, offline multiplayer is still very important, even with your Xbox Live. We're going to forget about the disadvantage Halo has with splitscreen, and focus on the one thing that is Halo's downfall in this multiplayer comparison.

Still. No. Bots. I'm sorry, it's a frickin' necessity. When you need to practice on a certain map that doesn't often come up in matchmaking? Bots. When you lose connection and want to play multi? Bots. When you want to play with people who are guaranteed not to goof aroundor scream into the mic? Bots. When you want to test a created level for inviting friends to play it? Bots. I don't care how complicated it would be to program competent multiplayer bots for Halo, it's a disadvantage and the reason Halo loses in multiplayer to SSBB.

But if that's not enough....

What Teh Future Holds - For SSBB, we've got Dojo updates from now 'till release, and we still don't know anything about what we can unlock, what other online modes there are, or whether there are still big bombs that they're saving. The sky's the limit.

Halo will be recieving the much-needed DLC, but it'll take a lot to match the content SSBB will have by release.

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That IN DEPTH enough for you? That was far longer than it needed to be, but I'm here to entertain. I hope you had fun reading it in between your bouts of anger and rage.

Now for the flame shield.

1: I am biased. Completely. Whatcha gonna do about it?

2: This is in no way a wall of text. I think it's actually too broken apart.

3: If I missed something big, please tell me and I'll put it somewhere.

4: Take it easy on any errors, I did write this all in the span of 3 days, with a cold and a weird schedule.

5: This opinion does not represent the opinion of the entire sheep fanboy group. Just most of them.

6: If you're going to just randomly whine, please do. It bumps mah thread.

and so ends a really, really long post.

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Yeah, let's compare a FPS with a fighting game featuring giant pink blobs and princesses :roll:
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#10 JPOBS
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Ok, im going to have to strongly diagree with your verdict that Smash has a better sp experience.

I cant believe you gave Smash the nod in terms of sp campeign. I mean, its a side scroller great. Melee's wasnt very ogod, and i understand that Brawl isnt melee, but take into consideration the fact that the halo series is the best FPS experience to be found on consoles.

I disagree very strongly therefore with the verdict that SSBB has a better sp.

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#11 Synthetic_NinJI
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How do you compare a game that is released between a game you have yet to play :|

Better yet how do you make the comparison between a FPS and a fighting game (nintendo style) :|

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comparing a fighting game to an fps = automatic failure. hey, why not compare mortal kombat to metroid prime or doa to haze?
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Yeah, let's compare a FPS with a fighting game featuring giant pink blobs and princesses :roll:BambooBanger
You got a problem with pink blobs and princesses? :x
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place holder post. JPOBS

Bit late. :P

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ITT: combo breakers.
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#16 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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How do you compare a game that is released between a game you have yet to play :|

Better yet how do you make the comparison between a FPS and a fighting game (nintendo style) :|

Synthetic_NinJI

I don't know, but I just did. :P

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am i the only one who finds this silly? ur comparing a FPS to a fighting game and on top of all....you are comparing halo 3 to a game that isnt even out :?
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#18 istreakforfood
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wonders how long it took you to write that along with how many ppl will actually read all of it.
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#19 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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am i the only one who finds this silly? Dante2710

Short answer: No.

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wonders how long it took you to write that along with how many ppl will actually read all of it.istreakforfood

1: A long time

2: 1. (Me.)

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#21 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]place holder post. Tsug_Ze_Wind

Bit late. :P

I meant for me lol.
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#22 nintendofreak_2
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wonders how long it took you to write that along with how many ppl will actually read all of it.istreakforfood
I read it. :)
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#23 JPOBS
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what i like about this thread:

Your admission of your bias is manly, not to mention i like the little witty comments you put throughout. also "f you're going to just randomly whine, please do. It bumps mah thread." lmfao the whiners have been pwnt!

What i dislike about this thread:

SSBB isnt out yet. i appreciate the effort though. I skimmed it >_>

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#24 Shinno441
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Doesn't matter if they are from different genres, SSBB holds the better experience and will last longer than Halo 3
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Doesn't matter if they are from different genres, SSBB holds the better experience and will last longer than Halo 3Shinno441

too bad it'll never sell as much as halo 3.

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what i like about this thread:

Your admission of your bias is manly, not to mention i like the little witty comments you put throughout. also "f you're going to just randomly whine, please do. It bumps mah thread." lmfao the whiners have been pwnt!

What i dislike about this thread:

SSBB isnt out yet. i appreciate the effort though. I skimmed it >_>

JPOBS

Why wait 'till the game's out? Gotta roll SW-style, you know. :P

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#27 nintendofreak_2
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too bad it'll never sell as much as halo 3.

latinrage69
I thought sales didn't matter. ;)
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#28 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

too bad it'll never sell as much as halo 3.

nintendofreak_2

I thought sales didn't matter. ;)

Oh! Too late! :lol:

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#29 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

too bad it'll never sell as much as halo 3.

nintendofreak_2
I thought sales didn't matter. ;)

says the sheep :o
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#30 latinrage69
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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

too bad it'll never sell as much as halo 3.

nintendofreak_2

I thought sales didn't matter. ;)

i'm not a cow. i'm a lemming. sales do matter. thankfully, we also don't have to WAIT for great games like the cows do. it's been one entire year and the cows have nothing to show for it. btw, i just love how sheep talk about smg being the "best looking game" even though since the beginning of this gen, you guys (not you specifically though, just in general) have stated that "graphics don't matter. all that matters is how fun the game is."

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#31 nintendofreak_2
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says the sheep :o
JPOBS
Whenever sheep bring up sales lemmings and cows always say sales don't matter. I guess I was wrong though. :?
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#32 nintendofreak_2
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i'm not a cow. i'm a lemming. sales do matter. thankfully, we also don't have to WAIT for great games like the cows do. it's been one entire year and the cows have nothing to show for it. btw, i just love how sheep talk about smg being the "best looking game" even though since the beginning of this gen, you guys (not you specifically though, just in general) have stated that "graphics don't matter. all that matters is how fun the game is."

latinrage69
I don't think I've ever seen a sheep say SMG looked better than Crysis (or any graphical beast) in a technical level.
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#33 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="latinrage69"]

too bad it'll never sell as much as halo 3.

latinrage69

I thought sales didn't matter. ;)

i'm not a cow. i'm a lemming. sales do matter. thankfully, we also don't have to WAIT for great games like the cows do. it's been one entire year and the cows have nothing to show for it. btw, i just love how sheep talk about smg being the "best looking game" even though since the beginning of this gen, you guys (not you specifically though, just in general) have stated that "graphics don't matter. all that matters is how fun the game is."

We claim SMG is the best looking game artistically, which has nothing to do with graphical horsepower.Also, lemmings pull that card just as much as cows against us.

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#34 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]says the sheep :o
nintendofreak_2
Whenever sheep bring up sales lemmings and cows always say sales don't matter. I guess I was wrong though. :?

Sales own.

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#35 Marth6781
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Tc is really funny.

SSBB will sell more than halo3 sig me!!

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#36 latinrage69
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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

i'm not a cow. i'm a lemming. sales do matter. thankfully, we also don't have to WAIT for great games like the cows do. it's been one entire year and the cows have nothing to show for it. btw, i just love how sheep talk about smg being the "best looking game" even though since the beginning of this gen, you guys (not you specifically though, just in general) have stated that "graphics don't matter. all that matters is how fun the game is."

nintendofreak_2

I don't think I've ever seen a sheep say SMG looked better than Crysis (or any graphical beast) in a technical level.

to be honest, artistically, Kameo looks better. the game sucks, but the artistry is better.

edit:

whoops. quoted the wrong person. this was meant for the TC who made a similar statement.

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#37 Willy105
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This was in-depth and hilarious. It was also convincing.
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#38 nintendofreak_2
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]says the sheep :o
JPOBS

Whenever sheep bring up sales lemmings and cows always say sales don't matter. I guess I was wrong though. :?

Sales own.

Alrighty then.
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[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="latinrage69"]

too bad it'll never sell as much as halo 3.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

I thought sales didn't matter. ;)

i'm not a cow. i'm a lemming. sales do matter. thankfully, we also don't have to WAIT for great games like the cows do. it's been one entire year and the cows have nothing to show for it. btw, i just love how sheep talk about smg being the "best looking game" even though since the beginning of this gen, you guys (not you specifically though, just in general) have stated that "graphics don't matter. all that matters is how fun the game is."

We claim SMG is the best looking game artistically, which has nothing to do with graphical horsepower.Also, lemmings pull that card just as much as cows against us.

well lemmings have the right to pull the "best console graphics" card because the 360 is home to the best console graphics. crysis wins hands down for best graphics. period.

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#40 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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to be honest, artistically, Kameo looks better. the game sucks, but the artistry is better.

edit:

whoops. quoted the wrong person. this was meant for the TC who made a similar statement.

latinrage69

This of course now goes into subjective territory of the worst kind: Artistry. Plus, it's off-topic to the thread.

*rerails*

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#41 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

We claim SMG is the best looking game artistically, which has nothing to do with graphical horsepower.Also, lemmings pull that card just as much as cows against us.

latinrage69

well lemmings have the right to pull the "best console graphics" card because the 360 is home to the best console graphics. crysis wins hands down for best graphics. period.

That's debateable too. Cows think it's now Uncharted. I don't think so, but I'm in no position to join that argument. ;)

*re-rerails*

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#42 axes03
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idiotic sheep, youre comparing an FPS thats already out to a fighting game thats not out,

"L-O-G-I-C", google it, youll learn something

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too much time on your hands?
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#44 latinrage69
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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

to be honest, artistically, Kameo looks better. the game sucks, but the artistry is better.

edit:

whoops. quoted the wrong person. this was meant for the TC who made a similar statement.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

This of course now goes into subjective territory of the worst kind: Artistry. Plus, it's off-topic to the thread.

*rerails*

back on topic. how the hell can anyone compare a fighting game which is still in development to a finished fps? if you wanted to compare fighting games, then you should've compared SSBB to tekken 6, or doa 4/5, or street fighter 4, or virtua fighter 5. why an fps? because it's the most popular game on the market?

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too much time on your hands?a_chalz

*nods*

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#46 nintendofreak_2
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idiotic sheep, youre comparing an FPS thats already out to a fighting game thats not out,

"L-O-G-I-C", google it, youll learn something

axes03
He's comparing features, not the games themselves.
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#47 axes03
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[QUOTE="axes03"]

idiotic sheep, youre comparing an FPS thats already out to a fighting game thats not out,

"L-O-G-I-C", google it, youll learn something

nintendofreak_2

He's comparing features, not the games themselves.

Comparing features, of two games OF TWO DIFFERENT GENRES!!

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back on topic. how the hell can anyone compare a fighting game which is still in development to a finished fps? if you wanted to compare fighting games, then you should've compared SSBB to tekken 6, or doa 4/5, or street fighter 4, or virtua fighter 5. why an fps? because it's the most popular game on the market?latinrage69

SSBB and Halo, aside from their genres, have a lot in common. They're both the multiplayer kller app for their system, the biggest system seller for their system, they target (arguably) the same audience. Even the levels and items are similar (as I compare).

But, it's not meant to be all that serious. :P

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#49 latinrage69
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[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

We claim SMG is the best looking game artistically, which has nothing to do with graphical horsepower.Also, lemmings pull that card just as much as cows against us.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

well lemmings have the right to pull the "best console graphics" card because the 360 is home to the best console graphics. crysis wins hands down for best graphics. period.

That's debateable too. Cows think it's now Uncharted. I don't think so, but I'm in no position to join that argument. ;)

*re-rerails*

*derails* uncharted comes close t gears but doesn't take the title. that's one game compared to a handful found on the 360 (exclusives not multiplat.) that still qualifies the 360 as being the home to the best console graphics; because of the sheer number of graphically awesome titles, not just one.

*tries to re-rail. "dammit! the track warped!"*

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#50 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="axes03"]

idiotic sheep, youre comparing an FPS thats already out to a fighting game thats not out,

"L-O-G-I-C", google it, youll learn something

axes03

He's comparing features, not the games themselves.

Comparing features, of two games OF TWO DIFFERENT GENRES!!

Thats like saying why compare 360/ps3 graphics since they're different systems.