SSBB will not use the Wiimote?!

Then what's the point of the damn thing?  Honestly, all you hear about is how the Wiimote gives you greater control over your game and is more immersive, and then I found out that one of the Wii's flagship titles will not support it?  The other day I was thinking about how hard and awkward it would be trying to short hop, wavedash, and cancel with a wiimote, so I read up on the game, and I was suprised to learn that I'll need to dig out my GC controller to even play the game. 

 

So I ask you, Nintendo fans/supporters, how does this choice not condemn the wiimote?  SSBB using an old controller just tells me that the wiimote is not suited to games that require pinpoint timing and accuracy, which is extremely dissapointing, because here I thought I was told the wiimote would be the best thing since sliced bread.  SSBB using a "last-gen" controller just seems to me like all the wiimote is good for is slow paced leisure games and mini-game collections. 

rykaziel

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]The Wiimote is only for BS games. Anything that requires actual skill needs an actual controller.JayPee89

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]The Wiimote is only for BS games. Anything that requires actual skill needs an actual controller.JayPee89

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It's a bad thing when you have to buy a controller just to play 1 game.DilutedDante

Time Crisis
DDR
Donkey Konga
Singstar
Buzz!
Guitar Hero

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]Darthmatt

]The Wiimote is only for BS games. Anything that requires actual skill needs an actual controller.JayPee89

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]JayPee89

[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]The Wiimote is only for BS games. Anything that requires actual skill needs an actual controller.Tylendal

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]JayPee89

I was thinking about replying in this thread then I thought about the garbage JayPee was spewing and how I wanted to keep my sanity in tact.

So yeah...

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]JayPee89

[QUOTE="rykaziel"]

Then what's the point of the damn thing?  Honestly, all you hear about is how the Wiimote gives you greater control over your game and is more immersive, and then I found out that one of the Wii's flagship titles will not support it?  The other day I was thinking about how hard and awkward it would be trying to short hop, wavedash, and cancel with a wiimote, so I read up on the game, and I was suprised to learn that I'll need to dig out my GC controller to even play the game. 

 

So I ask you, Nintendo fans/supporters, how does this choice not condemn the wiimote?  SSBB using an old controller just tells me that the wiimote is not suited to games that require pinpoint timing and accuracy, which is extremely dissapointing, because here I thought I was told the wiimote would be the best thing since sliced bread.  SSBB using a "last-gen" controller just seems to me like all the wiimote is good for is slow paced leisure games and mini-game collections. 

AvinashTyagi

Because the dev thought we would have to move like the characters.

Oh, for Zeus's sake, of course SSBB will use the Wii-mote.  It just won't use the motion-sensing feature of the Wii-mote.

Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a GC controller to play one of their biggest titles.  Use your heads, people.

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="rykaziel"]

Then what's the point of the damn thing?  Honestly, all you hear about is how the Wiimote gives you greater control over your game and is more immersive, and then I found out that one of the Wii's flagship titles will not support it?  The other day I was thinking about how hard and awkward it would be trying to short hop, wavedash, and cancel with a wiimote, so I read up on the game, and I was suprised to learn that I'll need to dig out my GC controller to even play the game. 

 

So I ask you, Nintendo fans/supporters, how does this choice not condemn the wiimote?  SSBB using an old controller just tells me that the wiimote is not suited to games that require pinpoint timing and accuracy, which is extremely dissapointing, because here I thought I was told the wiimote would be the best thing since sliced bread.  SSBB using a "last-gen" controller just seems to me like all the wiimote is good for is slow paced leisure games and mini-game collections. 

Wintry_Flutist

Because the dev thought we would have to move like the characters.

People who say the Wiimote can't work for SSB are afraid of change and can't realize SSB doesn't need to play like Melee, and SSBB is pretty much SSBM 1.5

Wintry_Flutist

Is it so terrible that I actually want SSBM 1.5. It could have the exact same fighting engine just with new characters, better single player (this one really isnt that important), new (exploding) levels, and online. I would be more than happy with that for years. I still play SSBM on a regular basis and it never really gets old.

Oh, for Zeus's sake, of course SSBB will use the Wii-mote.  It just won't use the motion-sensing feature of the Wii-mote.

Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a GC controller to play one of their biggest titles.  Use your heads, people.

 

CelineDion

[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]The Wiimote is only for BS games. Anything that requires actual skill needs an actual controller.Tylendal

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]The Wiimote is only for BS games. Anything that requires actual skill needs an actual controller.JayPee89

[QUOTE="CelineDion"]

Oh, for Zeus's sake, of course SSBB will use the Wii-mote.  It just won't use the motion-sensing feature of the Wii-mote.

Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a GC controller to play one of their biggest titles.  Use your heads, people.

 

AvinashTyagi

I guarantee you that Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a classic controller to play SSBB, either.

You're going to hold the Wii-mote sideways.  And the SSB series has only ever used a couple of buttons.

Then what's the point of the damn thing?  Honestly, all you hear about is how the Wiimote gives you greater control over your game and is more immersive, and then I found out that one of the Wii's flagship titles will not support it?  The other day I was thinking about how hard and awkward it would be trying to short hop, wavedash, and cancel with a wiimote, so I read up on the game, and I was suprised to learn that I'll need to dig out my GC controller to even play the game. 

 

So I ask you, Nintendo fans/supporters, how does this choice not condemn the wiimote?  SSBB using an old controller just tells me that the wiimote is not suited to games that require pinpoint timing and accuracy, which is extremely dissapointing, because here I thought I was told the wiimote would be the best thing since sliced bread.  SSBB using a "last-gen" controller just seems to me like all the wiimote is good for is slow paced leisure games and mini-game collections. 

rykaziel

You explain to me how using the Wii remote with Super Smash Bros. Brawl would work and I'll entertain your thoughts.  One game doesn't entirely condemn the Wii remote and you know as well as I do that not all games would work well with the Wii remote.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="UKNintendoFreak"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]The Wiimote is only for BS games. Anything that requires actual skill needs an actual controller.Gears360

All my friends say the Wiimote isn't precise enough. You'd be better with a regular controller if that's the case, unless you're not bothered about how well you do at games.SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="DilutedDante"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It's a bad thing when you have to buy a controller just to play 1 game.Gears360

Time Crisis
DDR
Donkey Konga
Singstar
Buzz!
Guitar Hero

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

Oh, for Zeus's sake, of course SSBB will use the Wii-mote. It just won't use the motion-sensing feature of the Wii-mote.

Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a GC controller to play one of their biggest titles. Use your heads, people.

 

CelineDion

I guarantee you that Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a classic controller to play SSBB, either.

You're going to hold the Wii-mote sideways. And the SSB series has only ever used a couple of buttons.

You need 5 buttons to play Smash. Attack, Special Attack, Shield, Grab and jump. There's no way in hell Nintendo will simplify the gameplay to the point where only 2 buttons can be doable.

[QUOTE="CelineDion"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

Oh, for Zeus's sake, of course SSBB will use the Wii-mote. It just won't use the motion-sensing feature of the Wii-mote.

Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a GC controller to play one of their biggest titles. Use your heads, people.

 

Redmoonxl2

I guarantee you that Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a classic controller to play SSBB, either.

You're going to hold the Wii-mote sideways. And the SSB series has only ever used a couple of buttons.

You need 5 buttons to play Smash. Attack, Special Attack, Shield, Grab and jump. There's no way in hell Nintendo will simplify the gameplay to the point where only 2 buttons can be doable.

at least those are specialized controllers never seen before SSBM forces you to pay extra money for .......an old normal controller, just cause the standard one (wiimote) is useless for some kinds of games, way to go nintendo!Gears360

The vast majority of people who will buy SSBB will own Melee. Chances are, most of them will still have their GameCube controllers. Nintendo have pushed the Virtual Console, with the result that alot of people will already have a Classic Pad. I'm not too sure how many people will be buying SSBB without a pad that it supports.

dont even try to go there man......... GTA SAN ANDREAS is 100x better than ANYTHING the wii has, 9.6 score, editors choice, something like 20 million sold, critically acclaimed everywhere, its an awesome game which your beloved nintendo denied you cause their stupid gamecube machine wasn't able to play it and guess what? your dear nintendo will now left you out of GTA4, and poor reggie has to go supplicate to rockstar to get GTA4 for the garbage wii :lol:Gears360

Wasn't able to run it?  The GC was more powerful than the PS2.  And if we're going to bring last gen games into the arguement, Metroid Prime scored higher than GTA did.  Much better game, IMO.

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="CelineDion"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

Oh, for Zeus's sake, of course SSBB will use the Wii-mote. It just won't use the motion-sensing feature of the Wii-mote.

Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a GC controller to play one of their biggest titles. Use your heads, people.

 

Hir0_N

I guarantee you that Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a classic controller to play SSBB, either.

You're going to hold the Wii-mote sideways. And the SSB series has only ever used a couple of buttons.

You need 5 buttons to play Smash. Attack, Special Attack, Shield, Grab and jump. There's no way in hell Nintendo will simplify the gameplay to the point where only 2 buttons can be doable.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]All my friends say the Wiimote isn't precise enough. You'd be better with a regular controller if that's the case, unless you're not bothered about how well you do at games.AvinashTyagi

Oh, for Zeus's sake, of course SSBB will use the Wii-mote.  It just won't use the motion-sensing feature of the Wii-mote.

Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a GC controller to play one of their biggest titles.  Use your heads, people.

 

CelineDion

They said it's a problem in Wii Sports. Isn't that game supposed to show off the Wiimotes capabilities?SolidSnake35

Whats a problem in Wii Sports? 

I guarantee you that Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a classic controller to play SSBB, either.

You're going to hold the Wii-mote sideways. And the SSB series has only ever used a couple of buttons.

CelineDion

Only a few buttons, yes.  But the reason you had more than a few attacks was because which way you moved the analog stick affected your attack was well.  You're not going to be able to use the nunchuk with the Wii remote sideways.

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]All my friends say the Wiimote isn't precise enough. You'd be better with a regular controller if that's the case, unless you're not bothered about how well you do at games.SolidSnake35

... The Gamecube wans't able to play GTA Sand Andreas, but the PS2 was? Which universe do you come from? The GC is more powerful than the PS2 in almost every regard. As for GTA San Andreas being better than anything the Wii has... Metroid Prime 9.7. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Tylendal

hoooooray for nintendo! the company who knows more than anyone about the gaming business!! :roll: :roll:

but hey, you got wiimote to compensate huh? you can go play Wii sports in the meantime 

[QUOTE="CelineDion"]

I guarantee you that Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a classic controller to play SSBB, either.

You're going to hold the Wii-mote sideways. And the SSB series has only ever used a couple of buttons.

-The-G-Man-

Only a few buttons, yes.  But the reason you had more than a few attacks was because which way you moved the analog stick affected your attack was well.  You're not going to be able to use the nunchuk with the Wii remote sideways.

Then use the nunchuck and don't hold the Wii-mote sideways.

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="CelineDion"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

Oh, for Zeus's sake, of course SSBB will use the Wii-mote. It just won't use the motion-sensing feature of the Wii-mote.

Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a GC controller to play one of their biggest titles. Use your heads, people.

 

Hir0_N

I guarantee you that Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a classic controller to play SSBB, either.

You're going to hold the Wii-mote sideways. And the SSB series has only ever used a couple of buttons.

You need 5 buttons to play Smash. Attack, Special Attack, Shield, Grab and jump. There's no way in hell Nintendo will simplify the gameplay to the point where only 2 buttons can be doable.

First off, I made my statements based on Celine's control assumption so you can cut that "caps" stuff out with me.

Second off, we'll see. Even if it used the nunchuk, that doesn't mean that the Wiimote option is the most viable. It's probably be doable but I can see people flocking to the Gamecube/Classic Controller scheme over the Wiimote scheme.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]They said it's a problem in Wii Sports. Isn't that game supposed to show off the Wiimotes capabilities?DilutedDante

Whats a problem in Wii Sports? 

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

I guarantee you that Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a classic controller to play SSBB, either.

You're going to hold the Wii-mote sideways. And the SSB series has only ever used a couple of buttons.

CelineDion

Only a few buttons, yes.  But the reason you had more than a few attacks was because which way you moved the analog stick affected your attack was well.  You're not going to be able to use the nunchuk with the Wii remote sideways.

Then use the nunchuck and don't hold the Wii-mote sideways.

That could prove problematic as well.  The Smash Bros. series is fast and frantic.  In the heat of the battle, having to reach up and down the Wii remote wouldn't work so well, I don't think.

[QUOTE="DilutedDante"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]They said it's a problem in Wii Sports. Isn't that game supposed to show off the Wiimotes capabilities?SolidSnake35

Whats a problem in Wii Sports? 

Golf and boxing were the stinkers.  The other three worked fine.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="DilutedDante"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]They said it's a problem in Wii Sports. Isn't that game supposed to show off the Wiimotes capabilities?-The-G-Man-

Whats a problem in Wii Sports?

Golf and boxing were the stinkers. The other three worked fine.

I can see why Boxing would be unresponsive. If it accurately picked up every movement, the person with flailing arms would always win.

[QUOTE="CelineDion"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

I guarantee you that Nintendo isn't going to make you buy a classic controller to play SSBB, either.

You're going to hold the Wii-mote sideways. And the SSB series has only ever used a couple of buttons.

-The-G-Man-

Only a few buttons, yes.  But the reason you had more than a few attacks was because which way you moved the analog stick affected your attack was well.  You're not going to be able to use the nunchuk with the Wii remote sideways.

Then use the nunchuck and don't hold the Wii-mote sideways.

That could prove problematic as well.  The Smash Bros. series is fast and frantic.  In the heat of the battle, having to reach up and down the Wii remote wouldn't work so well, I don't think.

Here's my idea on how Smash should work: hold the Wiimote sideways. Use D-Pad for movement. Pressing 2 to do special attacks, 1 for normal attacks, A for shield and B for that weird amulet attack in the video shown. A motion in a direction while pressing 2 will do different special attacks. Shaking the controller can do smash moves and the - button can do taunts. Opinions?

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="DilutedDante"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]They said it's a problem in Wii Sports. Isn't that game supposed to show off the Wiimotes capabilities?-The-G-Man-

Whats a problem in Wii Sports?

Golf and boxing were the stinkers. The other three worked fine.

Here's my idea on how Smash should work: hold the Wiimote sideways. Use D-Pad for movement. Pressing 2 to do special attacks, 1 for normal attacks, A for shield and B for shield. A motion in a direction while pressing 2 will do different special attacks. Shaking the controller can do smash moves and the - button can do taunts. Opinions?

UKNintendoFreak

Using a combination of the D-pad in buttons would be more difficult and not feel as good as an analog stick, in my opinion.