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#1 jonnyt61
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Linky

Hmmm, a little low at 7. The 2nd opinion is 7.75, but still, not the AAA JRPG some thought it would be.

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#2 Lionheart08
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Not surprised. But then GI sucks with some reviews. I remember how awful their Persona 4 review was.
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#3 tmntPunchout
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It's SO, those games didn't get rated very high to begin with I believe.
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#4 Zero5000X
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hmmm IDK i really liked Lost Odyssey and that didn't get really high reviews. I think RPGs have just developed higher standards than other genres over time.
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#5 GTR_FX
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didn't they also flop KZ2?

anyways the IGN preview said it was fantastic, so I wait for the GS and IGN reviews

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#6 RStar9
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This is going to be a very good game considering the state of JRPG's and RPGs in general on next gen systems.
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#7 DarkGamer007
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didn't they also flop KZ2?

anyways the IGN preview said it was fantastic, so I wait for the GS and IGN reviews

GTR_FX

If you mean 8.75 is a flop then yes, I know it was hyped AAAAE but still, an 8.75 is a great score, now if it would have gotten like 6.5 or 7 then it would have flopped.

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#8 RStar9
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hmmm IDK i really liked Lost Odyssey and that didn't get really high reviews. I think RPGs have just developed higher standards than other genres over time.Zero5000X

I also really liked LO. I thought it was a very underrated JRPG.

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#9 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="GTR_FX"]

didn't they also flop KZ2?

anyways the IGN preview said it was fantastic, so I wait for the GS and IGN reviews

DarkGamer007

If you mean 8.75 is a flop then yes, I know it was hyped AAAAE but still, an 8.75 is a great score, now if it would have gotten like 6.5 or 7 then it would have flopped.

Again with this? KZ2 wasn't hyped AAAAe.:?

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#10 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"][QUOTE="GTR_FX"]

didn't they also flop KZ2?

anyways the IGN preview said it was fantastic, so I wait for the GS and IGN reviews

Lionheart08

If you mean 8.75 is a flop then yes, I know it was hyped AAAAE but still, an 8.75 is a great score, now if it would have gotten like 6.5 or 7 then it would have flopped.

Again with this? KZ2 wasn't hyped AAAAe.:?

Yes it was, it has recieved AAAAE hype from cows. But that is besides the point, 8.75 is FAR from a flop.

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#11 GTR_FX
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[QUOTE="GTR_FX"]

didn't they also flop KZ2?

anyways the IGN preview said it was fantastic, so I wait for the GS and IGN reviews

DarkGamer007

If you mean 8.75 is a flop then yes, I know it was hyped AAAAE but still, an 8.75 is a great score, now if it would have gotten like 6.5 or 7 then it would have flopped.

well I for one never took GI reviews as creditable, I rather wait for ign or GS reviews
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#12 fistoflight
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"][QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

If you mean 8.75 is a flop then yes, I know it was hyped AAAAE but still, an 8.75 is a great score, now if it would have gotten like 6.5 or 7 then it would have flopped.

DarkGamer007

Again with this? KZ2 wasn't hyped AAAAe.:?

Yes it was, it has recieved AAAAE hype from cows. But that is besides the point, 8.75 is FAR from a flop.

Are you uhh delusional? It was not hyped AAAA by all the cows or by everyone. A FEW PEOPLE DOESN'T MEAN MAJORITY. It is hyped AAA deal with it.

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#13 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"][QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

If you mean 8.75 is a flop then yes, I know it was hyped AAAAE but still, an 8.75 is a great score, now if it would have gotten like 6.5 or 7 then it would have flopped.

DarkGamer007

Again with this? KZ2 wasn't hyped AAAAe.:?

Yes it was, it has recieved AAAAE hype from cows. But that is besides the point, 8.75 is FAR from a flop.

Take an A off of that and it'll be accurate. It's very rare a game get's AAAA hype and KZ2 didn't.

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#14 RStar9
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Who the **** cares? The things some of you get worked up about on this site is pathetic.

AAAA, AAA, who cares. I mean, I've never even heard any of your guys slangs and I've been playing video games my whole life. Take it easy with all the nerd anger.

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#15 Delsage
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GI is not a creditable site to go by in any means. Wait for the IGN and Gamespot review.

edit:

Killzone 2 was never hyped as AAAA, it's always been AAAE and only 360 owners would say otherwise.

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#16 Diviniuz
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Who the **** cares? The things some of you get worked up about on this site is pathetic.

AAAA, AAA, who cares. I mean, I've never even heard any of your guys slangs and I've been playing video games my whole life. Take it easy with all the nerd anger.

RStar9
True Story, I hope Star Ocean 4 is good! However I have to admit I have my doubts considering every JRPG square released on the 360 have been terrible, I don't think my wallet can take another hit considering this year is such a great gaming year. Don't let me down Star Ocean!
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#17 infamous_27
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And yet, I'm still jelous it's not on PS3... :(
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#18 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"][QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

If you mean 8.75 is a flop then yes, I know it was hyped AAAAE but still, an 8.75 is a great score, now if it would have gotten like 6.5 or 7 then it would have flopped.

DarkGamer007

Again with this? KZ2 wasn't hyped AAAAe.:?

Yes it was, it has recieved AAAAE hype from cows. But that is besides the point, 8.75 is FAR from a flop.

it's not, the hype is AAA i

f you go by that rule (one guy hyping a game AAAA is AAAA hype for the game in SW) the only 2 games that had not flopped are GTA4 and MGS4

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#19 Lionheart08
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Who the **** cares? The things some of you get worked up about on this site is pathetic.

AAAA, AAA, who cares. I mean, I've never even heard any of your guys slangs and I've been playing video games my whole life. Take it easy with all the nerd anger.

RStar9

Yeah, me and fistoflight were really about to Rage there for a second, Thanks for the reality check.:roll:

I still see Star Ocean 4 getting like a 7.5 on Gamespot.

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#20 Stiggsx
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Linky

Hmmm, a little low at 7. The 2nd opinion is 7.75, but still, not the AAA JRPG some thought it would be.

jonnyt61
old halo wars got a 9 house of dead overkill got an 8.5 killzone 2 got an 8.75
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#21 Stiggsx
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if SO4 is as good as LO then Ill buy it
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#22 RStar9
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[QUOTE="RStar9"]

Who the **** cares? The things some of you get worked up about on this site is pathetic.

AAAA, AAA, who cares. I mean, I've never even heard any of your guys slangs and I've been playing video games my whole life. Take it easy with all the nerd anger.

Diviniuz

True Story, I hope Star Ocean 4 is good! However I have to admit I have my doubts considering every JRPG square released on the 360 have been terrible, I don't think my wallet can take another hit considering this year is such a great gaming year. Don't let me down Star Ocean!

No kidding. I mean I liked LO, but Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery were huge let downs. Its been a terrible time for JRPG's this gen.

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#23 masterflame10
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I never did understand why so many people hyped this game so much, the SO franchise is decent, but they're not AAA :?
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#24 Stiggsx
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I never did understand why so many people hyped this game so much, the SO franchise is decent, but they're not AAA :?masterflame10
how many jprpg that dont have the words final fantasy are ever aaa :?
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#25 spike6566
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I guess the messiah of JRPGS for the 360 once again is going ot flop. when will the 360 ever get a JRGP that will not flop? all these exclusive JRPGS are floopping every where.
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#26 MrDziekuje
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I'll wait for IGN's review.
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#27 joopyme
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no matter what score it gets, i'm pretty sure it'll be entertaining. :D

looking forward to buying a copy in the future.

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#28 hopesfall2own
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TC: Who hyped a JRPG as AAA? ..its been AA for ..ever..
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#29 RStar9
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

Linky

Hmmm, a little low at 7. The 2nd opinion is 7.75, but still, not the AAA JRPG some thought it would be.

Stiggsx

old halo wars got a 9 house of dead overkill got an 8.5 killzone 2 got an 8.75

So House of the Dead is almost as good as Killzone 2 in their opinion? Sounds like a very credible website.......

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#30 jonnyt61
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

Linky

Hmmm, a little low at 7. The 2nd opinion is 7.75, but still, not the AAA JRPG some thought it would be.

Stiggsx
old halo wars got a 9 house of dead overkill got an 8.5 killzone 2 got an 8.75

Obviously news for most of this thread. As well, most seem to have only just seen it. Also, this is a Star Ocean 4 thread. Not Killzone 2. Killzone 2 threads are further up.
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#31 masterflame10
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[QUOTE="Stiggsx"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

Linky

Hmmm, a little low at 7. The 2nd opinion is 7.75, but still, not the AAA JRPG some thought it would be.

RStar9

old halo wars got a 9 house of dead overkill got an 8.5 killzone 2 got an 8.75

So House of the Dead is almost as good as Killzone 2 in their opinion? Sounds like a very credible website.......

Haouse of the Dead is a great game. :? Halo Wars, on the other hand... :P

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TC: Who hyped a JRPG as AAA? ..its been AA for ..ever..hopesfall2own
Plenty. I'm not about to argue with you. It was on -more- than enough big 360 games lists. It was on more than enough top RPG lists. I don't really care that it didn't score it. I knew it'd score A, low-AA.
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[QUOTE="masterflame10"]I never did understand why so many people hyped this game so much, the SO franchise is decent, but they're not AAA :?Stiggsx
how many jprpg that dont have the words final fantasy are ever aaa :?

Persona, Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, Xenogears, Suikoden and others. See there are some.
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#34 RStar9
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[QUOTE="RStar9"][QUOTE="Stiggsx"]old halo wars got a 9 house of dead overkill got an 8.5 killzone 2 got an 8.75 masterflame10

So House of the Dead is almost as good as Killzone 2 in their opinion? Sounds like a very credible website.......

Haouse of the Dead is a great game. :? Halo Wars, on the other hand... :P

House of the Dead is a good Wii game. Its not on the same level as Halo Wars or Killzone 2.

In my opinion at least.

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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]TC: Who hyped a JRPG as AAA? ..its been AA for ..ever..jonnyt61
Plenty. I'm not about to argue with you. It was on -more- than enough big 360 games lists. It was on more than enough top RPG lists. I don't really care that it didn't score it. I knew it'd score A, low-AA.

People put it on their lists because it was something that was upcoming..enlighten me on the AAA hype though, i've seen maybe 1 person say it.
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#36 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Stiggsx"][QUOTE="masterflame10"]I never did understand why so many people hyped this game so much, the SO franchise is decent, but they're not AAA :?Delsage
how many jprpg that dont have the words final fantasy are ever aaa :?

Persona, Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, Xenogears, Suikoden and others. See there are some.

*Tags In*

Dark Cloud 2, The World Ends With You, and Vagrant Story as well. :P

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#37 joopyme
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[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="Stiggsx"]how many jprpg that dont have the words final fantasy are ever aaa :?Lionheart08

Persona, Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, Xenogears, Suikoden and others. See there are some.

*Tags In*

Dark Cloud 2, The World Ends With You, and Vagrant Story as well. :P

Did someone say VARGRANT STORY???

:shock:

i miss that game! :cry:

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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]TC: Who hyped a JRPG as AAA? ..its been AA for ..ever..hopesfall2own
Plenty. I'm not about to argue with you. It was on -more- than enough big 360 games lists. It was on more than enough top RPG lists. I don't really care that it didn't score it. I knew it'd score A, low-AA.

People put it on their lists because it was something that was upcoming..enlighten me on the AAA hype though, i've seen maybe 1 person say it.

I'm more then aware of your... Lemming leanings. As I said, I'm not going to argue with you. "Big Game" lists can be put off as "Upcoming Game" list if you like. The game had a fair share of AAA Hype, probably about as much as people who were saying AA, to be fair. Am I trying to imply it's a flop? No, not really. Do I care? No. Not really. Carry on if you like, as I said, I won't argue with you :)
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TC: Who hyped a JRPG as AAA? ..its been AA for ..ever..hopesfall2own
lol dude, dont even act like no one has ever hyped it AAA. stop playing clueless. we all know in the past , lemmings hyped this as a AAA game. if you want to get mad, get mad at your fellow lemmings for hyping another flopping JRPG exlclusive to the 360.
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#40 hopesfall2own
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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]TC: Who hyped a JRPG as AAA? ..its been AA for ..ever..spike6566
lol dude, dont even act like no one has ever hyped it AAA. stop playing clueless. we all know in the past , lemmings hyped this as a AAA game. if you want to get mad, get mad at your fellow lemmings for hyping another flopping JRPG exlclusive to the 360.

show me some threads . as for johnny, if we assume that every game listed in "big game lists" are considered to be hyped AAA then I assume you're ok with hyping MAG, WKC, Uncharted 2, Infamous etc as all AAA. :roll:
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#41 Delsage
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[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="Stiggsx"]how many jprpg that dont have the words final fantasy are ever aaa :?Lionheart08

Persona, Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, Xenogears, Suikoden and others. See there are some.

*Tags In*

Dark Cloud 2, The World Ends With You, and Vagrant Story as well. :P

Adding on Kingdom Hearts, Disgaea: HoD, Grandia and Skies of Arcadia.
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#42 jonnyt61
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[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]TC: Who hyped a JRPG as AAA? ..its been AA for ..ever..hopesfall2own
lol dude, dont even act like no one has ever hyped it AAA. stop playing clueless. we all know in the past , lemmings hyped this as a AAA game. if you want to get mad, get mad at your fellow lemmings for hyping another flopping JRPG exlclusive to the 360.

show me some threads . as for johnny, if we assume that every game listed in "big game lists" are considered to be hyped AAA then I assume you're ok with hyping MAG, WKC, Uncharted 2, Infamous etc as all AAA. :roll:

I wouldn't care in the slightest :) But, if you can't tell the difference between Big Game lists, and certain games getting consistent threads made -solely- for them, then yea, that's your problem Hype them AAA. I don't care. I don't hype games, if you want to claim ownage on some cows, go ahead. It won't affect me in the slightest :) Carry on
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#43 Stiggsx
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[QUOTE="Stiggsx"][QUOTE="masterflame10"]I never did understand why so many people hyped this game so much, the SO franchise is decent, but they're not AAA :?Delsage
how many jprpg that dont have the words final fantasy are ever aaa :?

Persona, Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, Xenogears, Suikoden and others. See there are some.

most of those cept persona were released years ago
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[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Persona, Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, Xenogears, Suikoden and others. See there are some. Delsage

*Tags In*

Dark Cloud 2, The World Ends With You, and Vagrant Story as well. :P

Adding on Kingdom Hearts, Disgaea: HoD, Grandia and Skies of Arcadia.

Good thing you said Skies of Arcadia, that game is truly AAA IMO, I wish more JRPGs were AAA this gen though.
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#45 Stiggsx
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[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

*Tags In*

Dark Cloud 2, The World Ends With You, and Vagrant Story as well. :P

mitu123
Adding on Kingdom Hearts, Disgaea: HoD, Grandia and Skies of Arcadia.

Good thing you said Skies of Arcadia, that game is truly AAA IMO, I wish more JRPGs were AAA this gen though.

agreed, they should release skies on the wii virtual console
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#46 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="Stiggsx"]how many jprpg that dont have the words final fantasy are ever aaa :?Stiggsx
Persona, Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, Xenogears, Suikoden and others. See there are some.

most of those cept persona were released years ago

Dragon Quest VIII - 2005

Persona 4 - 2008

The World Ends With You - 2008

Dark Cloud 2 - 2003

There's also the Mario RPGs.;)

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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"][QUOTE="DarkGamer007"][QUOTE="GTR_FX"]

didn't they also flop KZ2?

anyways the IGN preview said it was fantastic, so I wait for the GS and IGN reviews

If you mean 8.75 is a flop then yes, I know it was hyped AAAAE but still, an 8.75 is a great score, now if it would have gotten like 6.5 or 7 then it would have flopped.

Again with this? KZ2 wasn't hyped AAAAe.:?

No? Then why are all of the cows going bat dung insane every time some site, or mag, gives it less than a perfect score? I'm serious. One some forums, I have not seen people act so crazy outside of an Asylum. Plus, I would take cows treating KZ2 as the second coming as hyping it AAAAE.
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#48 BioShockOwnz
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The hype is A. And well, the SO franchise is an A (Good) franchise.
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#49 Delsage
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[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

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Dark Cloud 2, The World Ends With You, and Vagrant Story as well. :P

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Adding on Kingdom Hearts, Disgaea: HoD, Grandia and Skies of Arcadia.

Good thing you said Skies of Arcadia, that game is truly AAA IMO, I wish more JRPGs were AAA this gen though.

Skies of Arcadia was indeed an amazing game, one that should have a squeal. I would actually prefer it over VC:2 surprisingly.

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No? Then why are all of the cows going bat dung insane every time some site, or mag, gives it less than a perfect score? I'm serious. One some forums, I have not seen people act so crazy outside of an Asylum. Plus, I would take cows treating KZ2 as the second coming as hyping it AAAAE.MortalDecay

Same reason why Lems went craxy when Gears 2 got a 9.0 instead of a 9.5 here. It wasn't until reviews came in that cows' faith in KZ2 was renewed. Prior to that it was AA-AAA range (it switched based off the previews.) It's only common sense that people would be hype for a game now that it's getting mostly AAA reviews. And even then, it's still AAA hype. Don't let those Lunchbox threads fool you.