Star Ocean: The Last Hope Gamespot Review (7.5) - PS3

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#101 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

That's what many in SW already said would happen with such an aged port...No surprises here.

SolidTy

True, though some -- including you -- had hoped for AA, or suspected it might as such. Quite a few hyped it as AA.

Hey, did you just make that up right in front of me? That's not accurate at all.

I was one of the main guys that said it would probably get the same score, a plus for new stuff, and minus for late port, in the end, about the score...I'm not even that interested in the PS3 version much anymore, unless I see it on the cheap. I still have my 360 copy.

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Me directly talking about the PS3 future SO4 score - "Obviously it's improved...BUT it's a year old. I think it will be a 7.5 again. Maybe 8.0."

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You just reminded me of how accurate I am! :o I mean, dang, I'm pretty good! :P Anyways, I can play that game, but this is what it would look like.

"Some -- including you -- had hoped and pined for an a low score, or at best an equal "A" GS score."

Don't worry, I'm not going around telling people what they hope for when then don't even do...I don't honestly care, I didn't make the game.;)

Anyways, check out my link as well, that poll even found the game to be "A" hype majority with about 160 voters. Sure, polls are broken, but it's a telling tale of how low most expected, even non PS3 owners.

Like I said, my link shows directly what I said, I didn't "Hope" for anything at all. There was no hope involved.:P


Ha +5 for Our King ... why 5 you ask? Two and a half for shutting down Stevo's false assumptions and two and a half for guessing the correct score. Well done Sir.

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#102 Marka1700
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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]Its a great game. I have had it since launch a few weeks ago. And the anime menus and icons are much better. Those cgi icons are ugly!!!Rockman999

How is the combat compared to SO3? I hated that if you ran out of MP, your character died.

I do not think that is the case this time around. Been a while since I played it though.
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#103 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Hey, did you just make that up right in front of me? That's not accurate at all.

I was one of the main guys that said it would probably get the same score, a plus for new stuff, and minus for late port, in the end, about the score...I'm not even that interested in the PS3 version much anymore, unless I see it on the cheap. I still have my 360 copy.

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Me directly talking about the PS3 future SO4 score - "Obviously it's improved...BUT it's a year old. I think it will be a 7.5 again. Maybe 8.0."

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You just reminded me of how accurate I am! :o I mean, dang, I'm pretty good! :P Anyways, I can play that game, but this is what it would look like.

"Some -- including you -- had hoped and pined for an a low score, or at best an equal "A" GS score."

Don't worry, I'm not going around telling people what they hope for when then don't even do...I don't honestly care, I didn't make the game.;)

Anyways, check out my link as well, that poll even found the game to be "A" hype majority with about 160 voters. Sure, polls are broken, but it's a telling tale of how low most expected, even non PS3 owners.

Like I said, my link shows directly what I said, I didn't "Hope" for anything at all. There was no hope involved.:P


Rza_rectah

I didn't make anything up -- whether or not you hoped it would achieve AA is my inferrence, but you at least suspected it "might" achieve AA; otherwise, you wouldn't have added that little "Maybe 8.0" at the end of your comment. You wouldn't have said such if you didn't believe at all within it. Again, notice the "or" in my post as I inferred that you hoped, and/or suspected it could achieve AA. Simple as that.

I'm well aware of the hype, as such I linked that same exact thread within the first few posts of this very thread. I was merely showcasing that quite a few might be surprised at the 7.5 score instead of the AA hype they were leaning towards.

So this proves nothing he said maybe an 8 but he was spot on with 7.5. Stop begging for a win you lost.

*Waves*

Hello! 8)

How's everyone doing this evening?:twisted:

On topic, dang, that Star Ocean 4 is out. Who's getting it?!:P

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#104 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] True, though some -- including you -- had hoped for AA, or suspected it might as such. Quite a few hyped it as AA.W1NGMAN-

Hey, did you just make that up right in front of me? That's not accurate at all.

I was one of the main guys that said it would probably get the same score, a plus for new stuff, and minus for late port, in the end, about the score...I'm not even that interested in the PS3 version much anymore, unless I see it on the cheap. I still have my 360 copy.

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Me directly talking about the PS3 future SO4 score - "Obviously it's improved...BUT it's a year old. I think it will be a 7.5 again. Maybe 8.0."

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You just reminded me of how accurate I am! :o I mean, dang, I'm pretty good! :P Anyways, I can play that game, but this is what it would look like.

"Some -- including you -- had hoped and pined for an a low score, or at best an equal "A" GS score."

Don't worry, I'm not going around telling people what they hope for when then don't even do...I don't honestly care, I didn't make the game.;)

Anyways, check out my link as well, that poll even found the game to be "A" hype majority with about 160 voters. Sure, polls are broken, but it's a telling tale of how low most expected, even non PS3 owners.

Like I said, my link shows directly what I said, I didn't "Hope" for anything at all. There was no hope involved.:P


Ha +5 for Our King ... why 5 you ask? Two and a half for shutting down Stevo's false assumptions and two and a half for guessing the correct score. Well done Sir.

+5 you say?:shock:

Hold on, I am emailing Xbox.com right now, and I am asking them to please, please, please add the +5 to my Gamerscore!:P (I hope they do it...but I'm sad they may not. :( )

If they do it, I will PM everyone involved for the 5 gamerscore...in fact, thanks guys!:P

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So, are you getting SO4 International W1ngman?:P

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#105 Jynxzor
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I picked this up after donating my 360 version to a friend, the Japanese VA is a million times better than the English and the anime icons are a great addition to those blasted ugly CGI icons. Nothing gamebreaking but at least now I don't want to punch Lymle in the face every single time I hear her speak.
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#106 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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So this proves nothing he said maybe an 8 but he was spot on with 7.5. Stop begging for a win you lost.

Rza_rectah

Yes he was, but that doesn't mean that he still didn't suspect an 8.0 was possible or wasn't out of reach -- which many did view was possible as evident by that hype thread even though you have consistently said that anyone who knew did his research regarding this game wouldn't say that. I still find that rather odd. Regardless, this began in regards to the "No surprises here" comment by Solidty, I'm sure quite a few might be surprised by this -- finalstar2007 being one of them! ;)

I'm not sure what I'm "begging" at, or how one could see something like so as a "win" or a "loss," either. Tis' strange that you would view such that way, I hope I haven't struck a nerve. :?

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#107 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Ha +5 for Our King ... why 5 you ask? Two and a half for shutting down Stevo's false assumptions and two and a half for guessing the correct score. Well done Sir.

W1NGMAN-

Wuah? There was no such "false assumption." In fact, the argument is easily made regarding what I said earlier. Afterall, I do not see how my statement is incorrect -- twas' worded fairly carefully.

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#108 DJ-Lafleur
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I played the 360 version, and while I didn't think it was terrible, it was a disappointment, and SO4 is my least favorite SO game of the 4.

I'm not rushing back to play it again like I did with the past three SO titles.

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#109 kosmosfreak2
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Maybe I'll get this... I've been itching for a decent JRPG and was horribly disappointed with WKC

WAIW

I wrote a little review on the game.

Its pretty good.

Shoddy on storyline 9.5/10 on just about everything else.

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#110 Bigboi500
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Even as a JRPG enthusiast I've never been into the Star Ocean series. Tried SO3 and didn't care for it so I doubt I'd like this one either.

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#111 WAIW
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For those claiming higher standards robbed the PS3 version of AA status, look at some other timed exclusives. I don't think that argument holds up. Other games ported to the PS3 late -- such as Bioshock, with received virtually no real benefits -- scored exactly the same as their 360 counterparts. There are, however, games that receive some extra attention and so score higher. Clearly, Square didn't do enough to the game to make it significantly better on PS3...

I think GS just wants to compare these ports to the original game, so that when people look up "Star Ocean" they can tell if the versions are the same or not.

(360 - PS3)

Bioshock - 9.0, one year later with barely any improvements - 9.0

Braid - 9.5, one year later with no improvements - 9.5

Oblivion - 9.3, one year later with minimal improvements 9.5 (rounded UP)

Red Alert 3 - 7.0, one year later wiwth significant improvements 7.5

Ninja Gaiden II - 8.0, one year later with significant improvements 8.5

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#112 TheWiikestLink
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Maybe I'll get this... I've been itching for a decent JRPG and was horribly disappointed with WKC

WAIW
done with demons souls?
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#113 hayato_
Member since 2007 • 5165 Posts

WKC looks like a slightly better version of FFXII and that's a very, very bad thing.aaronmullan

Somebody hasn't played WKC :| . I suggest you do because its way better looking than Final Fantasy XII. Especially in the first level and when you get to the city of Greede

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#114 ChiChiMonKilla
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I just picked it up the story is the same save the human race world blah blah blah but the rest is very good. The gameplay and side quest are very good there is alot to dig into. I really liked the item creation feature it had me running all over really making the sidequest worth it. It was also nice to pick what skills I wanted to power up as well as custom combos. You could really dig into the gameplay with the beat system for example. The story gets told with cgi clips about 10mins per episode and they are too long and cause the story to drag at times destroying the pace of the game.

The graphics are pretty good with diffrent planets to visit with diffrent looks but the camera needs work. I love the optional japenese voices and music with subs you can also change the menu's. The music is also good with the sound effect placement being well done as you could hear enemies coming and what direction for example. It's a good game just not a great one. There are about 30-50 hrs of gameplay depending on what you do as well as diffrent outcomes depending on your personal interactions to a certain degree. I am looking for a super powerful boss that all square games seem to have hidden but so far its about a 8 out of 10 imo.

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#115 Bladex2k
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7.5= good so still a good game lol worth renting atleast

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#116 Half-Way
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AAA confirmed

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#117 DivineSword  Moderator
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Not really surprise by the score it recieved, the series as a whole was mostly average to good.

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#118 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]So this proves nothing he said maybe an 8 but he was spot on with 7.5. Stop begging for a win you lost.

Yes he was, but that doesn't mean that he still didn't suspect an 8.0 was possible or wasn't out of reach -- which many did view was possible as evident by that hype thread even though you have consistently said that anyone who knew did his research regarding this game wouldn't say that. I still find that rather odd. Regardless, this began in regards to the "No surprises here" comment by Solidty, I'm sure quite a few might be surprised by this -- finalstar2007 being one of them! ;)

I'm not sure what I'm "begging" at, or how one could see something like so as a "win" or a "loss," either. Tis' strange that you would view such that way, I hope I haven't struck a nerve. :?

LMAO you try to hard dude he hyped it at 7.5 the game got 7.5 what more is there to discuss? Just because he thought the game MIGHT(important word) score a 8 doesnt mean thats what he hyped it at he clear said hes pretty sure that the game will get a 7.5. How can you strike my nerves by being wrong? What you said about finalstar brings me back to my statement they can be surprised but they shouldnt be I hope thats not too hard to understand.
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#119 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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LMAO you try to hard dude he hyped it at 7.5 the game got 7.5 what more is there to discuss? Just because he thought the game MIGHT(important word) score a 8 doesnt mean thats what he hyped it at he clear said hes pretty sure that the game will get a 7.5. How can you strike my nerves by being wrong? What you said about finalstar brings me back to my statement they can be surprised but they shouldnt be I hope thats not too hard to understand.Rza_rectah
Not sure what's funny -- I already said he did so, but again, I was references and replying towards the notion of "no surprises there" comment. That so-called might holds some weight, anyone who believes a game "might" achieve a certain score has some hope and/or just suspected as much. If they didn't, such words wouldn't have come. I don't see why they shouldn't be -- who are you to say that shouldn't be surprised? You're coming off as if you know everything in regards to Star Ocean and the fellas following the game who suspected AA were just ignorant who didn't much much about the game... :?

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#120 the-obiwan
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oh finallllllllllllllllllllllll where are you finallllllllllll :P im waiting for u here x3
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#121 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]So this proves nothing he said maybe an 8 but he was spot on with 7.5. Stop begging for a win you lost.

Yes he was, but that doesn't mean that he still didn't suspect an 8.0 was possible or wasn't out of reach -- which many did view was possible as evident by that hype thread even though you have consistently said that anyone who knew did his research regarding this game wouldn't say that. I still find that rather odd. Regardless, this began in regards to the "No surprises here" comment by Solidty, I'm sure quite a few might be surprised by this -- finalstar2007 being one of them! ;)

I'm not sure what I'm "begging" at, or how one could see something like so as a "win" or a "loss," either. Tis' strange that you would view such that way, I hope I haven't struck a nerve. :?

LMAO you try to hard dude he hyped it at 7.5 the game got 7.5 what more is there to discuss? Just because he thought the game MIGHT(important word) score a 8 doesnt mean thats what he hyped it at he clear said hes pretty sure that the game will get a 7.5. How can you strike my nerves by being wrong? What you said about finalstar brings me back to my statement they can be surprised but they shouldnt be I hope thats not too hard to understand.

he hyped it 7.5 possibly 8.0 thats a simple fact.
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#122 shutdown_202
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Expected. I dont know how some cows thought such minor additions would warrant it an AA score. Regardless, this is a really good game with tons to do. I reccommend PS3 (and 360) owners pick this up sometime. Maybe when theres a drought.

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#123 Ratchet_Fan8
Member since 2008 • 5574 Posts

Flop,Then again *squints eyes*

its Square Enix the worst JRPG devs on the market,so no surprises here! Whatever they published/made this gen was floppish, i like the boxart though...

i dont think this will sell other than Japan,since Other people can just get it for 10/20$ for 360.It sux anyway,i thought the extras were good..meh