Steam Needs Quality Control

Steam = Broken ShovelWare Because No QC

You know it was only a few years ago people criticized the Wii because it was a dumping ground for Shovelware, but at least the Shovelware on the Wii worked most of the time. PC gamers like to hold steam on some high pedestal saying Steam is where PC gaming is at with the great deals, easy accessibility and even going as far as saying PC games for multiplats outsell their Console counter parts even tho there is no proof of that since Steam refuses to release it's numbers wander why..... wonder why.

What PC gamers won't tell you on the other hand Steam is also filled with oversaturated crap according to

Jim Sterling. Selling games so broken they're practically unplayable and despite PCs claims of having "superior hardware" and "graphics" a lot of the games look like they would be embarrassed to be on the PS 2.

The lack of Quality Control on Steam is apparently worse than I could of imagined, but it's not just the lack of QC that should have you worried, publishers on steam get to monitor there own Steam pages frequently silencing criticism and drowning it out, while bumping up + reviews to the point it's obviously suspicious.

Steam isn't the second coming of Jesus as most PC gamers would like you to believe but rather a "dumping ground for hot garbage" Jim Sterling. It seems Steam the once bench mark of PC gaming has literally turn into a "disastrous mess" and with it turning PC gaming into a "disastrous mess."

"Steam is on the verge of being worse than the entire games industry was before the big 1980 crash in fact lets face it it's already there."

Jim Sterling - It's no wonder PC gaming is a massive turn off for most Console gamers as it's bad enough when there is no guarantee that a game you buy will be functional let alone good. PC gaming business model seems to favor total market saturation over QC and customer satisfaction and yet PC gamers are confused as to why console gamers don't pick up the PC torch which is laughably bad when it comes to Quality.

Not only is PC Gaming credibility garbage like most of it's games it's no wonder Consoles are reaching record breaking sales when this is the alternative. Quality before Quantity I say and something at least as far as Steam goes hasn't learned Quality is diapering almost entirely on the PC being replaced with Quantity which is not a good thing if you're a PC gaming who actually plays games. Thank God for Console gaming.

Steam Needs Quality Control

Jim Sterling | 3 February 2014 12:00 pm

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8753-Steam-Needs-Quality-Control

@Shielder7:

Last gen:

PC: more AAA/AA total than consoles. More AAA/AAE than all 3 consoles combined.

Current gen:

PC: more AAA/AA total than consoles. More AAA/AAE than all 3 consoles combined.

By the way, Gabe is already aware that the current greenlight system is flawed, and they are working on it. so the article is about as credible as you... hint: not very.

Consoles have tons of shovel ware to, but PC gamers know better to stay away from shit unlike console kids.

HAHA

tl;dr

jim sterling's opinion is worthless.

shall we have a proper discussion?

now, if you wanted to have a discussion about the merits of the early access program - that's something else. personally i'm not a fan of the early access program. can't really review the games, can't really assess the games, can't really do much of anything other than pay close to full price for what's essentially an unfinished game.

For the most part you have to go out of your way to find such games. On top of that, there are player reviews which will normally tell you if a game is broken. That's not mentioning doing some simple googling to see the graphics and gameplay of the game you're interested in. So what exactly is the problem here? People aren't smart enough to ignore bad games?

Do consoles have better QC? What standards do you need to meet, in order to release games?

I think it's more that you just don't have to be overly Adult or deal with disturbing subjects

lol, how did Skyrim on the PS3 run? what about Bayonetta?

yeah man. super good scrutineers on consoles, lmao.

consoles have more AAAA games then pc but there is still a lot of poop on consoles as well. Where is the quality control on ps3?

Shielder7 thread lol

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Shielder7 thread lol

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That's pretty much what I got from what's happened before. Many publishers really don't want to hit the AO rating, and might even shy away from a Mature rating, in favour of something more addressable. At the end of the day, it seems there isn't much knowledge regarding Steam's QC, or console QC.

steam is a store... They will store everything int he store because it's digital, they most the meta scores on the right and allow you to click the community forums where it houses comments, screenshots, videos, walkthroughs ect ect

steam it self a is a client that houses all your games and does a pretty fine job at it

I'd take having more aaa/aa than having just 1 AAAA. PC has higher quality and quantity.

ps3 has 2 and pc 0 AAAA>AAA so the quality goes to consoles quantity goes to pc as anyone can make a pc game.

Lol...AA, AAA, AAAE,AAABEFRGF

You guys are putting too much faith in the quantitative evaluation abilities of art students.

Also, it's safe to say the lack of literacy displayed in the OP tells us more about consoles than about steam.

Well, when I listen to the Escapist guy, I somewhat agree with him. There's shitload of shit on Steam, but you have to inform yourself before purchasing something.

Early Access is 50-50 for me. It can be pretty good for a dev (e.g. Next Car Game), but the other 50 is - you're paying for a severely unfinished title. I presume you, as a developer, need to sign a contract with Valve before releasing something on Early Access which obliges you to actually finish the game.

Never bought a game I found on Steam, I always find them first and then log on to buy. I'm not interested in unfinished games either. So for me it hasn't been an issue really. As for a store having some kind of quality guarantee, I think that could be smart for them to implement.

They put the metacritic score on the game's page. I would rather have the option of purchasing a crappy game that interests me rather than have Valve determine what I can and cannot purchase on their platform. If you buy a crappy game, that's your fault, not Valve's.

Alternatively, the steam user could develop common sense.

Not anyone can make a 8.0 and above PC game.. PC has the most great+ games. Quantity AND Quality.

I'd take 100 more Great/Amazing games over 2 AAAA.

P.S., PC has 2 of those AAAA games on it, and they are better on it.

consoles have the best games and pc has quantity. Pc has gta4 but does not have mario galaxy or mgs4. (emulation is theft and it was never released on pc.)

PC has around 100 more Great and above games than PS3 did last gen.

PC has the highest quantity and quality factually speaking.

Being the best, implies that they have the best in everything, which isn't the case... It seems more of a semantics dispute. In this sense, you are labelling an arbitrary definition, that AAAA are drastically better, and thus counterbalance the quantity. Something that you must prove.

never said it your words not mine

Arbitrary arguments are not relevant.

So, you can't comprehend your own argument? You need to understand that arguments carry a general tone, in other words what you are trying to convey. Trying to get straight to the point, that is essentially your argument. You are arguing that quality is better than quantity, though it is reductio ad absurdum.

Your argument became arbitrary, upon defining that quantity was better than quality. Hell, I didn't make the argument, you did.

So... Yeah...

That's the one thing I ever agreed on with Total Bisquick. Guy is a complete idiot, but he got that one right.

Emulation isn't theft.

And you need to put all consoles vs PC,lulz

Thats not what i said at all your changing everything. I said consoles had the best games because of AAAA titles i never said it "balances it out" he was talking about pc having the best quality and i disagreed based on pc have no AAAAEs. Thus i said consoles have the best games and pc has the most games. i never said it made up for consoles having less he was giving the pc a title it does not have.

Your whole argument is that i had a tone? This is you assuming nothing more.

Who gives a shit? How many games a generation do we get that are AAAA? Better question, how many deserve it?

Not everything needs to be stipulated, as one can assume with relative accuracy. Your argument hardly deviates from what I have stated. You are putting forth an arbitrary argument, whereas Jankarcorp (as annoying as he is) is stipulating that in terms of GS, the AAAE/AAE are higher than consoles. You are stipulating that a few AAAAE's should count higher. So, address your general argument, as if there is a misunderstanding, it is within your wording.

1. Work on your English.
2. Work on your argument.

I am diffusing arbitrary arguments, and we stipulate that GS scores denote A/AA/AAA/AAAA/E scores. That's a general consensus.

Work on your argument, yo.

Holy crap shielder is on a roll, man did a PC gamer burn your house down or something? I know there's people bitter against the PC but this? lol someone has a bit too much free time, what happened to playing those AAA console exclusives?

It's true Steam needs quality control tho, they had a nasty streak of some really bad games, but that's kind of gamers fault for buying them in the first place, majority of PC gamers know better to stay away from those games, lol, we don't eat up all the marketing like some console gamers do

make stuff up much?

Steam needs PSN... or at least exclusive games herms actually want so they don't always have to be begging for ports of console games.