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#101 Adrian_Cloud
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Playing the game now.. has no lag, great graphics. Everything is great.. the character models are oustanding. Great job by kojima, i mean the detail is great through out the game is solid..
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#102 TheSystemLord1
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Playing the game now.. has no lag, great graphics. Everything is great.. the character models are oustanding. Great job by kojima, i mean the detail is great through out the game is solid..Adrian_Cloud

How are the textures?

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#103 SHuN_G0Ku
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I wonder what Quazimodo will say next after the actual game comes out..
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#104 Spybot_9
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Ohhh consoles they fail so hard.Bu bu teh HD teh blueray teh ceeeeeeeeellll!!!:cry::cry:.......:(

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#105 Udsen
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Kind of disappointing but there's nothing I can do. 720p shouldn't be so hard to grasp, Kameo did it in 2005.
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#106 TheSystemLord1
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Kind of disappointing but there's nothing I can do. 720p shouldn't be so hard to grasp, Kameo did it in 2005.Udsen

I think it has more to do with getting a stable framerate. If it means sacrificing a bit on the resolution to incorporate AA then I suppose its all good...

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#107 Udsen
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[QUOTE="Udsen"]Kind of disappointing but there's nothing I can do. 720p shouldn't be so hard to grasp, Kameo did it in 2005.TheSystemLord1

I think it has more to do with getting a stable framerate. If it means sacrificing a bit on the resolution to incorporate AA then I suppose its all good...

Wasn't Sony's big thing with the PS3 Blu-ray and the ability to game in Full 1080p?

Now the biggest game on the system can't even make 720p? Something a game did almost 3 years ago?

It's not just Sony, though. MS did it with Halo and that sucked, from a gamers perspective. Cow aside, I'm not happy with 665p. Not on the PS3.

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#108 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]1024x768 is not 665p. Especially with 2xAA anamorphic renderingmjarantilla

Same # of pixels.

2xAA anamorphic rendering make a big diference in how it looks in widescreen... for me...

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#109 Arjdagr8
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]Playing the game now.. has no lag, great graphics. Everything is great.. the character models are oustanding. Great job by kojima, i mean the detail is great through out the game is solid..TheSystemLord1

How are the textures?

im suprised actually, the textures look better than most console games, i mean they're no uncharted but still very nice.

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#110 Relys
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Looking good to me at least, then again what did Halo 3 or CoD4 render at? because they weren'y 720P either :Pthrones

Atleast COD4 had 60fps to speak for it's self.

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#111 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]

[QUOTE="Udsen"]Kind of disappointing but there's nothing I can do. 720p shouldn't be so hard to grasp, Kameo did it in 2005.Udsen

I think it has more to do with getting a stable framerate. If it means sacrificing a bit on the resolution to incorporate AA then I suppose its all good...

Wasn't Sony's big thing with the PS3 Blu-ray and the ability to game in Full 1080p?

Now the biggest game on the system can't even make 720p? Something a game did almost 3 years ago?

It's not just Sony, though. MS did it with Halo and that sucked, from a gamers perspective. Cow aside, I'm not happy with 665p. Not on the PS3.

Even worse, didn't Sony say some crap (that almost had ME thinking about a ps3) about how 1 PS3 could display on 2 monitors in 1080p or something like that?

They just flat out lied this gen, just like the last. With Ps2 before launch it was "we are gonna partner with AOL and realplayer for a web browser and video streaming on ps2". Never happened, of course. Home will never happen either most likely.

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#112 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="thrones"]Looking good to me at least, then again what did Halo 3 or CoD4 render at? because they weren'y 720P either :PRelys

Atleast COD4 had 60fps to speak for it's self.

Well, Halo 3 had double the usual HDR range.

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#113 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]1024x768 is not 665p. Especially with 2xAA anamorphic renderingAlways-Honest

Same # of pixels.

2xAA anamorphic rendering make a big diference in how it looks in widescreen... for me...



It's still rendered in a widescreen aspect ratio, just not in a widescreen resolution. Shouldn't make a big difference.
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#114 Spybot_9
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So console fanboys are discussing anti-aliasing and resolutions.But ya they wont care about them all of a sudden when you bring in the PC.:roll:
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#115 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="megaton3k"]

576P? 665P? WTF? Were counting pixels now? I think we as gamers have fallen into a new low.

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If only Sony didn't promissed me things like HD ready console... hey I wouldn't of mind.

i don't get this you can watch blu-ray movies. can't some games be unscaled to 1080. i don't have an high-def tv so i don't really know anything about this. but i can tell the difference between dvd and blu-ray on my tv. it called hype everyone does it and it still works even know. as for the games isn't it up to the developer. i mean its only been a year. also this sony promised me thing is getting out of hand. i mean its like sony your mother and your mad because she didn't take you to the zoo because she had to work. its not a big deal.

What? my mother?

It's called BS marketing and if you like it... then I cannot express with words what you are.

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#116 SgtWhiskeyjack
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Who cares? it looks great and only total geeks would ever really tell.

In 10 years time people will be saying, it's only 2480P3D and not true 3200P3DD.

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#117 shoeman12
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cows will be pretty hypocritical if they don't bash this like they did halo 3.
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#118 Bebi_vegeta
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Who cares? it looks great and only total geeks would ever really tell.

In 10 years time people will be saying, it's only 2480P3D and not true 3200P3DD.

SgtWhiskeyjack

Yeah the all mighty cell...that's what we're gona talk in 10 years... it's failure.

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#119 SHuN_G0Ku
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you know it's kinda funny here at SWs sometimes that whenever a random person from the net posts something negative about a game whether it's the pixels, frame rates, reviews, gameplay hours, etc.., everyone comes in the thread and gets a piece of nothing but bashing and hate..

..BUT it's even funnier when a person turns on his console and TV and plays the game and doesn't even think about any of those nonsense BS

if you're truly a gamer, you shouldn't even care about what the outlook of the game is. grow the f up Fanboys..

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#120 Nolan16
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charcter models are wonderful textures just need a little bit of sharpening up but they look good and its 30frames per second is actually about 40 high 30s. smooth no jaggies they accomplished alot for the beta. the single player will look alot better theres still a month left and your forgeting kojima is a perfectionist he's always pulled a rabbit out of his hat some way. i wouldnt doubt him i bet he will do it this time as well.
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#121 club-sandwich
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!EmperorSupreme

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

Yes, it actually has been hyped for it's graphics aswell.
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#122 shoeman12
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!EmperorSupreme

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

cows have hyped it as the best looking game on consoles

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#123 II-FBIsniper-II
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I am shocked this thread isn't 100% Halo bashing yet. :shock:
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#124 Nolan16
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you know whats funny you guys are bashing the graphics and they look wonderful and its in online play id rank it behind uncharted and gears about 3rd or 4th but thats really good for online plush the smoothness of it i'll take pics for you guys i have it running on a sony bravia i'll use my HD camera and show you that it looks fantastic.
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#125 Heydanbud92
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What about MGS4? it's 720P right?
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#126 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!shoeman12

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

cows have hyped it as the best looking game on consoles

MGO or MGS4?

And MGS4 graphics hype has died down alot due to games like uncharted, which makes sense.

BTW i think Halo 3 looks amazing despite the "non-HDness".

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#127 Heydanbud92
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:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!BioShockOwnz

And lets see if lemmings defend it ruthlessly.

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#128 Mamba_Negra
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buh teh cell was meant to run flawlesly any game at any HD resolutions? what happened with all that sony hype.

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#129 catfishmoon23
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!shoeman12

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

cows have hyped it as the best looking game on consoles

I think you're confusing MGS4 with Uncharted.

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#130 anonymoussum1
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!thrones

Fanboys? Consistency? *slaps*

This is SW, of course we can expect things like this!

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#131 ocdog45
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was that game ever about the graphics anywya? not only that this story will kill anything else to begin with.

It automatically upscales to 1080p, so i'm fine. The graphics arn't amazing to begin with, but I expect Guns of the Patriots to blow me away.Couth_

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#132 Always-Honest
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What about MGS4? it's 720P right?Heydanbud92

nope, it's not

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#133 Nolan16
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the actualy MGS4 game we wont know until its released.
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#134 AgentA-Mi6
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Meh... I dont care, I dont even have an HD TV
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#135 foxhound_fox
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I myself would much prefer a higher framerate to a higher resolution, especially in regards to online. 60FPS minimum for online.
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#136 Always-Honest
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the actualy MGS4 game we wont know until its released.Nolan16

true, but people that played the last version said it was not even 720P... but we can wait till it comes out...

Same for MGO though....

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#137 Nolan16
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[QUOTE="Nolan16"]the actualy MGS4 game we wont know until its released.Always-Honest

true, but people that played the last version said it was not even 720P... but we can wait till it comes out...

Same for MGO though....

Kojima always finds a way to pull a rabbit out of his hat like i said im telling you it will be in true 720p

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#138 Nolan16
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so as of now we just wait and see.
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#139 Pariah_001
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:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!BioShockOwnz

MGO isn't MGS.

Nice flamebait though.

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#140 white_sox
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:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!BioShockOwnz
I'm surprised you entered this thread, if I don't recall you and tekkenmaster were willing to give up your life to claim it was 567p. Bu bu beyond3d is never wrong.
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#141 Decko5
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!club-sandwich

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

Yes, it actually has been hyped for it's graphics aswell.

yea remember snakes beard?

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#142 blues3531
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:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!BioShockOwnz

I know what you mean :lol: "but teh halo 3 is teh flagship game for 360!!1111" . sony fans claim mgs4 to be that first massive exclusive. hopefully they wont be so hypocritical.

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#143 Blackbond
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HD consoles my ***. Ah well the game will still be good.
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#144 MyzeDivine
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[QUOTE="Nolan16"]the actualy MGS4 game we wont know until its released.Always-Honest

true, but people that played the last version said it was not even 720P... but we can wait till it comes out...

Same for MGO though....

Eh, what? Where was this stated. The only people to have played the game even somewhat recently were the 16 that were invited. I don't recall any of them saying anything about resolution other than IGN, who thought it was 720p, and they also said it was running at 60fps. Unless you are talking about the guy on Beyond3D who was taking guesses based off of downsized/stretched images. Again, wait and see. The graphical quality of MGS4 is much higher than MGO, but that doesn't mean it is a higher resolution, so we will just have to wait and see.

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#145 Nolan16
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

[QUOTE="Nolan16"]the actualy MGS4 game we wont know until its released.MyzeDivine

true, but people that played the last version said it was not even 720P... but we can wait till it comes out...

Same for MGO though....

Eh, what? Where was this stated. The only people to have played the game even somewhat recently were the 16 that were invited. I don't recall any of them saying anything about resolution other than IGN, who thought it was 720p, and they also said it was running at 60fps. Unless you are talking about the guy on Beyond3D who was taking guesses based off of downsized/stretched images. Again, wait and see. The graphical quality of MGS4 is much higher than MGO, but that doesn't mean it is a higher resolution, so we will just have to wait and see.

finaly a smart post i agree listen to what he says.

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#146 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]1024x768 is not 665p. Especially with 2xAA anamorphic renderingTheSystemLord1

It is also not a true 16:9 ratio, so when converted to 16:9 it is 665p. Read a little farther down in the link.

it doesn't work like that, 1024 x 768 in wide screen turns into 1280 x768 (720p), basicly when 15" was mainstream there were no widescreen monitors. any way 665 p is more like 1024 x 600

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#147 naval
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pshaw. My TV is natively 768p....and I never run anything in 1080i cause of the flicker. 720p ftw. So no biggie.dxmcat

I don't expect that .... now anyone pointing this out is going to a graphics whore who counts pixels instead of playing games

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#148 bigLLL
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There is a difference in MGO graphics and metal gear solid 4 people, and cod4 runs at 600p and halo3 at 640 so just add another mega blockbuster game to the list if true, although im thinking the single player would be every bit 720p

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#149 daveg1
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nothing new there then for consoles this is the trend....