"Marvel at the pieces, but appreciate the whole. This isn't a game that redefines the genre: this is one that rolls it up and locks it away. We've come so far, from stepping on mushrooms to drop-kicking meteors into the heart of the sun; Galaxy 2 offers a new understanding of where we've been, a new sense of wonder at where we'll go next. [10]"
Oh wow. I did not think this would be a 10 like the first game since I didn't know how Nintendo could make it feel as new and revolutionary as SMG1. Shame on me.
Where are teh Wii gamez!!!!! Lulz I haven't played my Wii since SSBB, it's teh dusty! :roll: Seriously, the Wii has had an amazing year this year, many quality games, this score is also unsurprising, SMG2 looks marvelous.
How the hell was Edge able to release a review so early? I thought that Nintendo doesn't usually allow reviews this far in advance except for maybe Nintendo Power.
[QUOTE="Im_single"]Where are teh Wii gamez!!!!! Lulz I haven't played my Wii since SSBB, it's teh dusty! :roll: Seriously, the Wii has had an amazing year this year, many quality games, this score is also unsurprising, SMG2 looks marvelous. It's getting more good games than the bad old days of 2008 but it's still in last place as far as quality games go, among the 3 consoles. I can see why someone would be happy with just a Wii this year but I can also see why it's still mocked on SW.
Don't think Starcraft 2 is worried about such little things as the acclaim of fake journalists. Starcraft 2 is aiming for nothing less than world domination.
Don't think Starcraft 2 is worried about such little things as the acclaim of fake journalists. Starcraft 2 is aiming for nothing less than world domination.roxlimn
[QUOTE="roxlimn"]Don't think Starcraft 2 is worried about such little things as the acclaim of fake journalists. Starcraft 2 is aiming for nothing less than world domination.JAB991
"Fake journalists?" Indeed. Real journalists usually have education in mass communication, or extensive experience in covering and writing stories. Generally, they also have real editors who do real editing. Most of them would also balk at the very idea of compromising their integrity by, say, making compromising deals with the participants of the stories they're covering. Game "journalists" usually have no credentials, no writing skill, no editors, and little integrity. Calling them journalists at all is an insult to real journalists everywhere.
To get a perfect 10 from Edge is quite something. I always liked Edge, they're harsh and aren't affraid of criticizing big hyped up games instead of giving them a free pass. I don't always agree with Edge of course, but a 10 from them definitly has my attention. I expect this to be better than the original.
and that's some pretty glowing comments in that final paragraph.
Miyamoto is a god and I am definitely looking forward to this game. As soon as Red Dead is finished I'll be playing SMG 2(and then I'll do alan wake later....the game.....i mean I'll play it....damn it you knew what i meant)
times like this make me wish the wii had HD, SMG is one of the only games I bought for the system along with metroid and twilight princess. Wish i would have never sold my Wega crt as the games looked pretty good on that but on my bravia it just looks so so bad, blurry mess :(
It's because the Bravia has crappy upscaling algorithms. If you get a separate (good) upscaler, you can feed the TV's native resolution into the HDMI cable port and have it look fantastic.
times like this make me wish the wii had HD, SMG is one of the only games I bought for the system along with metroid and twilight princess. Wish i would have never sold my Wega crt as the games looked pretty good on that but on my bravia it just looks so so bad, blurry mess :(Go1D
huh?
Thats impossible. What Bravia do you have? Do you use component cables?
Cuz SMG and Wii games in general look very good on my Sony Bravia. As good if not better then it did on my old widescreen CRT.
It is the latest model though, so it might have a better upscaler or whatever.
I seriously would love to see Nintendo do something with some power under the hood. They know polish, and they tend to get their games at 60 frames. Plus they also know good art direction(Metroid: Other M looks bad in that department though). So I would really have loved to seen with Nintendo EAD or Intelligent Systems or Retro Studios or the smash bros dude could do on some 360/PS3 level tech. I don't think my eyes could handle the level of awesome they could do on a PC :P
[QUOTE="Go1D"]times like this make me wish the wii had HD, SMG is one of the only games I bought for the system along with metroid and twilight princess. Wish i would have never sold my Wega crt as the games looked pretty good on that but on my bravia it just looks so so bad, blurry mess :(Thunderdrone
huh?
Thats impossible. What Bravia do you have? Do you use component cables?
Cuz SMG and Wii games in general look very good on my Sony Bravia. As good if not better then it did on my old widescreen CRT.
It is the latest model though, so it might have a better upscaler or whatever.
yeh, I have those but idk it just looks so bad. Maybe im just spoiled from pc gaming, and if I increase the sharpness it just makes everything look way jagged. ive got the sony bravia xbr6 37inch, use it as my pc monitor also. looks amazing on everything but wii which sucks as im just thinking of selling it sense I never play.
I seriously would love to see Nintendo do something with some power under the hood. They know polish, and they tend to get their games at 60 frames. Plus they also know good art direction(Metroid: Other M looks bad in that department though). So I would really have loved to seen with Nintendo EAD or Intelligent Systems or Retro Studios or the smash bros dude could do on some 360/PS3 level tech. I don't think my eyes could handle the level of awesome they could do on a PC :Pjg4xchamp
A massive 3rd person-2d metroid on pc would be godlike.
Awesome. Finally i can play my Wii for the first time since SSBB. Can't wait to play this one (although i got Halo Reach to keep me occupied right now).
[QUOTE="JAB991"][QUOTE="roxlimn"]Don't think Starcraft 2 is worried about such little things as the acclaim of fake journalists. Starcraft 2 is aiming for nothing less than world domination.roxlimn
"Fake journalists?" Indeed. Real journalists usually have education in mass communication, or extensive experience in covering and writing stories. Generally, they also have real editors who do real editing. Most of them would also balk at the very idea of compromising their integrity by, say, making compromising deals with the participants of the stories they're covering. Game "journalists" usually have no credentials, no writing skill, no editors, and little integrity. Calling them journalists at all is an insult to real journalists everywhere.I almost felt like making a snappy retort, but I honestly don't know what to say to this. :?
Are you seriously suggesting that none of the people who write articles for gaming sites and magazines have editors or credentials???
Are 10s to easy to get these days? Look honestly i think Galaxy 2 will be a fantastic game, but 10s to me should really never be achieved. Seems like these days we get 5-6 of them a generation.
Are 10s to easy to get these days? Look honestly i think Galaxy 2 will be a fantastic game, but 10s to me should really never be achieved. Seems like these days we get 5-6 of them a generation.walkingdream
Look honestly i think Galaxy 2 will be a fantastic game, but 10s to me should really never be achieved.walkingdream
This always seems like such a stupid argument when I hear it. Why should games not be able to get the highest score on a scale? If it couldnt there would be no point of it. A 10 =/= perfect.
[QUOTE="walkingdream"] Look honestly i think Galaxy 2 will be a fantastic game, but 10s to me should really never be achieved.fenwickhotmail
This always seems like such a stupid argument when I hear it. Why should games not be able to get the highest score on a scale? If it couldnt there would be no point of it. A 10 =/= perfect. Yeah there's no point it a 10 point scale if 10 is impossible to achieve.
I almost felt like making a snappy retort, but I honestly don't know what to say to this. :?
Are you seriously suggesting that none of the people who write articles for gaming sites and magazines have editors or credentials???
Vaasman
Not none. Very few, and the few that do have compromised their objectivity and credibility so much that it doesn't matter anyway. I'm not suggesting that they don't have journalistic credentials. I'm saying that they don't, and you can check up the resumes of most of these bozos and that will confirm what I said. How many of these writers have experience writing even dog show coverage on major papers, let alone the proper college education. Do any of them have PhDs? What IGN and Gamesport choose to call "editors" are writers and event coverage shills. Given the amount of grammatical errors and just outright spelling errors I see on most of these pieces, I doubt they even get proofread by an intern. And integrity? Forget about it. They won't recognize integrity if it slapped them in the face and wrung their necks.
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I almost felt like making a snappy retort, but I honestly don't know what to say to this. :?
Are you seriously suggesting that none of the people who write articles for gaming sites and magazines have editors or credentials???
roxlimn
Not none. Very few, and the few that do have compromised their objectivity and credibility so much that it doesn't matter anyway. I'm not suggesting that they don't have journalistic credentials. I'm saying that they don't, and you can check up the resumes of most of these bozos and that will confirm what I said. How many of these writers have experience writing even dog show coverage on major papers, let alone the proper college education. Do any of them have PhDs? What IGN and Gamesport choose to call "editors" are writers and event coverage shills. Given the amount of grammatical errors and just outright spelling errors I see on most of these pieces, I doubt they even get proofread by an intern. And integrity? Forget about it. They won't recognize integrity if it slapped them in the face and wrung their necks.So what you're is suggesting that I, a person with absolutely no college education in the field of journalism and only one semester of English, is just as credible if not moreso than most of the writers at these websites?
THEN WHY HAVEN'T THEY HIRED ME YET?
I fail to find your argument sound on those grounds.
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I almost felt like making a snappy retort, but I honestly don't know what to say to this. :?
Are you seriously suggesting that none of the people who write articles for gaming sites and magazines have editors or credentials???
Vaasman
Not none. Very few, and the few that do have compromised their objectivity and credibility so much that it doesn't matter anyway. I'm not suggesting that they don't have journalistic credentials. I'm saying that they don't, and you can check up the resumes of most of these bozos and that will confirm what I said. How many of these writers have experience writing even dog show coverage on major papers, let alone the proper college education. Do any of them have PhDs? What IGN and Gamesport choose to call "editors" are writers and event coverage shills. Given the amount of grammatical errors and just outright spelling errors I see on most of these pieces, I doubt they even get proofread by an intern. And integrity? Forget about it. They won't recognize integrity if it slapped them in the face and wrung their necks.So what you're is suggesting that I, a person with absolutely no college education in the field of journalism and only one semester of English, is just as credible if not moreso than most of the writers at these websites?
THEN WHY HAVEN'T THEY HIRED ME YET?
I fail to find your argument sound on those grounds.
Yeah, you need some understanding of the field in order to look at things subjectively. If I asked a 14 year old girl what the best film ever made was, it would probably be Twilight New Moon. Is it? Of course not.
So what you're is suggesting that I, a person with absolutely no college education in the field of journalism and only one semester of English, is just as credible if not moreso than most of the writers at these websites? THEN WHY HAVEN'T THEY HIRED ME YET? I fail to find your argument sound on those grounds.Vaasman
Generally, people at companies like IGN and Gamespot hire people they know, or who can be vouched for by people they know. It takes more schmoozing than actual education to get into a gaming mag or company. Have you submitted a resume? Do you even know what it takes to actually land a job? Finish school, get a job, get into a professional career and then tell me that reviewers are being professional. They are not. Car enthusiast reviewers have more credibility than they do, and even car coverage guys don't get much respect in the world of journalism.
Here's a fact: when it comes to Street Fighter 4, I would rather listen to Justin Wong than any game reviewer alive. Justin is not a journalist.
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I almost felt like making a snappy retort, but I honestly don't know what to say to this. :?
Are you seriously suggesting that none of the people who write articles for gaming sites and magazines have editors or credentials???
Vaasman
Not none. Very few, and the few that do have compromised their objectivity and credibility so much that it doesn't matter anyway. I'm not suggesting that they don't have journalistic credentials. I'm saying that they don't, and you can check up the resumes of most of these bozos and that will confirm what I said. How many of these writers have experience writing even dog show coverage on major papers, let alone the proper college education. Do any of them have PhDs? What IGN and Gamesport choose to call "editors" are writers and event coverage shills. Given the amount of grammatical errors and just outright spelling errors I see on most of these pieces, I doubt they even get proofread by an intern. And integrity? Forget about it. They won't recognize integrity if it slapped them in the face and wrung their necks.So what you're is suggesting that I, a person with absolutely no college education in the field of journalism and only one semester of English, is just as credible if not moreso than most of the writers at these websites?
THEN WHY HAVEN'T THEY HIRED ME YET?
I fail to find your argument sound on those grounds.
Actually, he has a very good point. You can easily start a blog, write reviews, and can potentially slip into the industry. Try to do the same anywhere else, and you wont have a hope. The videogame journalist industry is made up of people that played a lot of games, are very passionate about games, and want to tell the world about them. There isnt anything wrong with that, but perhaps their passion gets in the way of their job, when they are given gifts all the time, get to attend exclusive events and parties and previews. The publisher has a lot of time to sway the reviewer, even on a subconciouss level. And, as roxlimn mentions, the standard of reviews, in terms of factual coherence and grammatical / spelling mistakes, is quite low compared to its peers. There are examples of well written stuff, but the majority of reviews are quite painful to go through.
"You're going to take it for granted. And why not? Mario's titles always step lightly: they never undergo the rigorous pre-nup investigations most games sit through, and they're not sliced open and hyped up in studio visits, online documentaries and art team Q&As. With Mario, the work is hidden: he's pieced together in glorious secrecy, and nobody gets to see him until he's whole."
This is very true and something i wish other developers took notice. EAD Tokyo is one of the best studios around today and they dont need studio tours, interviews or 500 dollar artbooks with italian leather covers and gold lining finish to showcase their genius.
"You're going to take it for granted. And why not? Mario's titles always step lightly: they never undergo the rigorous pre-nup investigations most games sit through, and they're not sliced open and hyped up in studio visits, online documentaries and art team Q&As. With Mario, the work is hidden: he's pieced together in glorious secrecy, and nobody gets to see him until he's whole."
This is very true and something i wish other developers took notice. EAD Tokyo is one of the best studios around today and they dont need studio tours, interviews or 500 dollar artbooks with italian leather covers and gold lining finish to showcase their genius.
Thunderdrone
That's a really good quote. I love that about the top Nintendo games. They appear for you as whole complete worlds, with never a glitch, or a framerate stutter, or DLC, or anything to take you out and remind you that it's lines of code and art assets etc made by random Japanese people. Instead it's a magical world that was clearly conjured by pixies :D
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