SW Lounge v16-- The Imaginary Edition!

Just downloaded splinter cell chaos theory HD (5gb) in less than six mins I love my new speed :Pcarlisledavid79

I wish my internet ran on crack.

I think I only have a 5mb connection. I can play all my games just fine, but if I want to download one it usually hovers around 650kb/s

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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"] Wow!!! I never get that treatment ):.. :Plbjkurono23

I like the signature in Spanish. :D. Make up for it slightly?

I know some basic conversational. I'm half Mexican you know. I am probably not as good as you but I speak it.

One thing I will never do is criticise a game I have never played. I find that to be extremely childish, and closed-minded. All too often on these forums I see people throw games under the bus, calling them overrated, garbage, waste of money, amongst many other things, despite never having played the game before. I honestly don't know what the reasoning for it is.

The only possible reason I could think of as to why someone would criticize a game that they have never played would be because they are a fanboy.

One thing I will never do is criticise a game I have never played. I find that to be extremely childish, and closed-minded. All too often on these forums I see people throw games under the bus, calling them overrated, garbage, waste of money, amongst many other things, despite never having played the game before. I honestly don't know what the reasoning for it is.

The only possible reason I could think of as to why someone would criticize a game that they have never played would be because they are a fanboy.

arkephonic

Never been called out before. Most people either argue or ignore me. Not blindly attack me like a rabid animal.

Calvin079

System Wars will always be a little hostile. War is in the title. Expect people to attack you like a rabid animal, especiallly when you make any claim. I'll let you off the hook this time.

[QUOTE="Calvin079"] I can have an opinion about something whether I've played (or in this case watched it or not) so it most certainly holds merit. If you didn't call me a fanboy you most certianly implied it. Also, I bet I'm older than you, so learn some facts before hating someone with no reason.

AcidSoldner

You don't see me running around telling everybody how terrible Stronghold 3 is, despite the fact that it has been absolutely thrashed by reviewers. You want to know why? Because I don't own the game and any opinion I have about it hold absolutely no merit.

I actually respected you for your loyalty to such a critically lambasted game (Stronghold 3) and how genuine you were about the games shortcomings, but today you have proved to everybody on this forum that you are a complete moron.

And lol @ bringing age into this as if it means anything. I'm 23, come at me bro.

[QUOTE="Calvin079"]

I have a Wii, so? I also have a PC and a 3DS. XBOX and PS3 don't have anything I want. Besides, if I can get a game's plotline by watching a playthrough on GS or youtube or read a game script on GFAQS, I do so. Helps me determine what the game contains and if it has objectionable content beyond what's written on the ESRB label. I don't mind cutscenes to advance the plot. (Snake Eater for example) Its when the game seems to be all cutscenes (UC, MGS4) and no gameplay, that's where it crosses the line. I thought Dead Space was another interactive movie until I saw "Use these controls to do basic attacks." That's when I knew it was a game.

Slashkice

You shouldn't get Snake Eater. You're going to hate it.

One thing I will never do is criticise a game I have never played. I find that to be extremely childish, and closed-minded. All too often on these forums I see people throw games under the bus, calling them overrated, garbage, waste of money, amongst many other things, despite never having played the game before. I honestly don't know what the reasoning for it is.

The only possible reason I could think of as to why someone would criticize a game that they have never played would be because they are a fanboy.

arkephonic

When someone is criticizing a game how can you tell if they've never played it without them actually saying they've never played it?

I mean it's not as if we all love the "universally praised" games.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

One thing I will never do is criticise a game I have never played. I find that to be extremely childish, and closed-minded. All too often on these forums I see people throw games under the bus, calling them overrated, garbage, waste of money, amongst many other things, despite never having played the game before. I honestly don't know what the reasoning for it is.

The only possible reason I could think of as to why someone would criticize a game that they have never played would be because they are a fanboy.

SW__Troll

When someone is criticizing a game how can you tell if they've never played it without them actually saying they've never played it?

I mean it's not as if we all love the "universally praised" games.

The only examples I used when I said that are people that literally said, "I have not played the game before".

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[QUOTE="verbtex"]

I like the signature in Spanish. :D. Make up for it slightly?

verbtex

I know some basic conversational. I'm half Mexican you know. I am probably not as good as you but I speak it.

lolspanish

French>All other languages :D

lolspanish

French>All other languages :D

Slashless

What city do you live in? SAN DIEGO. A Spanish title.

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lolspanish

French>All other languages :D

verbtex

What city do you live in? SAN DIEGO. A Spanish title.

lolspanish

French>All other languages :D

Slashless

I DON'T CARE WHAT THE NAME OF MY CITY IS :xSlashless

I love that signature. I just don't remember why that happened in the cartoon.

[QUOTE="Slashless"] I DON'T CARE WHAT THE NAME OF MY CITY IS :xverbtex

I love that signature. I just don't remember why that happened in the cartoon.

[QUOTE="Calvin079"]

Demo wan't bad. Controls are fine.

Slashkice

You sound like you have an incredibly low tolerance for cutscenes though. If Uncharted bothers you, Snake Eater...won't go well.

It's an excellent game and all - the entire series is one of my favorites - but it just doesn't sound right for you. By all means though, it's your decision.

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[QUOTE="Slashless"] I DON'T CARE WHAT THE NAME OF MY CITY IS :xSlashless

I love that signature. I just don't remember why that happened in the cartoon.

Censor Bypassing was removed from the TOU. You can cuss all you want as long as it ain't hate speech. Nothing racist, sexist, or hating on religion, orientation, or mental capabilities.

[QUOTE="Slashless"][QUOTE="verbtex"]

I love that signature. I just don't remember why that happened in the cartoon.

verbtex

Censor Bypassing was removed from the TOU. You can cuss all you want as long as it ain't hate speech. Nothing racist, sexist, or hating on religion, orientation, or mental capabilities.

I'm off to bed this time. @ Acidsoldner: I was not right inwhat I said to you, so I apologize for my words that were posted. (Lesson learned: never post when really cranky or tired)

Metal Gear Solid 4 has about 8-10 hours of gameplay, and Uncharted 1-3 have about 8-10 hours of gameplay for each game.

All the cutscenes are trying to do is tell a story. Whether you want to listen to the story is optional. You can skip if you wish.

8 to 10 hours of gameplay is about the average for a retail game these days, it's just that games like Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid offer you a story as well. Whether you want it or not is up to you.

It is entirely possible that people might just not like stories being integrated into games, and prefer to only play games like Mario that do not have stories. I think it is kind of silly to say that you can just youtube any game with a story and that would be a sufficient substitute for actually playing the game. It would actually be the equivalent of youtubing Mario Galaxy, because you would be missing all the gameplay.

lolspanish

French>All other languages :D

Slashless

I don't like to argue with people, I'm a pretty non-confrontational person, but when people make such incredibly ridiculous claims like Calvin just did, I am just dumbfounded.

I'm going to lighten this thread up with a pony picture as I know you all tend to enjoy them

Metal Gear Solid 4 has about 8-10 hours of gameplay, and Uncharted 1-3 have about 8-10 hours of gameplay for each game.

All the cutscenes are trying to do is tell a story. Whether you want to listen to the story is optional. You can skip if you wish.

8 to 10 hours of gameplay is about the average for a retail game these days, it's just that games like Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid offer you a story as well. Whether you want it or not is up to you.

It is entirely possible that people might just not like stories being integrated into games, and prefer to only play games like Mario that do not have stories. I think it is kind of silly to say that you can just youtube any game with a story and that would be a sufficient substitute for actually playing the game. It would actually be the equivalent of youtubing Mario Galaxy, because you would be missing all the gameplay.

arkephonic

I don't like to argue with people, I'm a pretty non-confrontational person, but when people make such incredibly ridiculous claims like Calvin just did, I am just dumbfounded.

arkephonic

Metal Gear Solid 4 has about 8-10 hours of gameplay, and Uncharted 1-3 have about 8-10 hours of gameplay for each game.

All the cutscenes are trying to do is tell a story. Whether you want to listen to the story is optional. You can skip if you wish.

8 to 10 hours of gameplay is about the average for a retail game these days, it's just that games like Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid offer you a story as well. Whether you want it or not is up to you.

It is entirely possible that people might just not like stories being integrated into games, and prefer to only play games like Mario that do not have stories. I think it is kind of silly to say that you can just youtube any game with a story and that would be a sufficient substitute for actually playing the game. It would actually be the equivalent of youtubing Mario Galaxy, because you would be missing all the gameplay.

arkephonic

I agree with you here. Youtubing any game is not a representation of how the game actually feels to play. I enjoyed the feel of U2, U1 was meiocore. Generally I really have little desire for video game stories since they basically all suck.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Metal Gear Solid 4 has about 8-10 hours of gameplay, and Uncharted 1-3 have about 8-10 hours of gameplay for each game.

All the cutscenes are trying to do is tell a story. Whether you want to listen to the story is optional. You can skip if you wish.

8 to 10 hours of gameplay is about the average for a retail game these days, it's just that games like Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid offer you a story as well. Whether you want it or not is up to you.

It is entirely possible that people might just not like stories being integrated into games, and prefer to only play games like Mario that do not have stories. I think it is kind of silly to say that you can just youtube any game with a story and that would be a sufficient substitute for actually playing the game. It would actually be the equivalent of youtubing Mario Galaxy, because you would be missing all the gameplay.

Calvin079

I think the best thing I can do is just stop talking video games with you. I just couldn't disagree with you more about everything.

I want someone to give me a free 3DS or free PS Vita.

That'd be glorious.

Why do they have to be so expensive? :cry:

SW__Troll

I changed the lounge back to normal. I think I got my lulz out of that.

I can agree with MGS4 being a bit cutscene heavy, but Uncharted 2? The cutscenes are almost entirely dialogue, and rarely in my mind interrupted any significant moments that could have been gameplay. dialogue was handled nicely through cutscenes, and just about any thing that could count as a spectacle was entirely gameplay. Seemed to me like that game had a beautiful balance between cutscene and gameplay.

I like Half Life 2's story telling as much as the next guy, but on replays I'd always like to skip the people mouthing off. I mean forget my disagreements with how that game plays, I wish I didn't have to endure the story everytime I wanted to retry the game.

[QUOTE="Calvin079"] I can have an opinion about something whether I've played (or in this case watched it or not) so it most certainly holds merit. If you didn't call me a fanboy you most certianly implied it. Also, I bet I'm older than you, so learn some facts before hating someone with no reason.

AcidSoldner

You don't see me running around telling everybody how terrible Stronghold 3 is, despite the fact that it has been absolutely thrashed by reviewers. You want to know why? Because I don't own the game and any opinion I have about it hold absolutely no merit.

I actually respected you for your loyalty to such a critically lambasted game (Stronghold 3) and how genuine you were about the games shortcomings, but today you have proved to everybody on this forum that you are a complete moron.

And lol @ bringing age into this as if it means anything. I'm 23, come at me bro.

Don't care if this is a lounge for nice words, this is a prick comment and you should feel like a prick for making us read this shiit.

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[QUOTE="Calvin079"] I can have an opinion about something whether I've played (or in this case watched it or not) so it most certainly holds merit. If you didn't call me a fanboy you most certianly implied it. Also, I bet I'm older than you, so learn some facts before hating someone with no reason.

ActicEdge

You don't see me running around telling everybody how terrible Stronghold 3 is, despite the fact that it has been absolutely thrashed by reviewers. You want to know why? Because I don't own the game and any opinion I have about it hold absolutely no merit.

I actually respected you for your loyalty to such a critically lambasted game (Stronghold 3) and how genuine you were about the games shortcomings, but today you have proved to everybody on this forum that you are a complete moron.

And lol @ bringing age into this as if it means anything. I'm 23, come at me bro.

Don't care if this is a lounge for nice words, this is a prick comment and you should feel like a prick for making us read this shiit.

[QUOTE="Calvin079"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Metal Gear Solid 4 has about 8-10 hours of gameplay, and Uncharted 1-3 have about 8-10 hours of gameplay for each game.

All the cutscenes are trying to do is tell a story. Whether you want to listen to the story is optional. You can skip if you wish.

8 to 10 hours of gameplay is about the average for a retail game these days, it's just that games like Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid offer you a story as well. Whether you want it or not is up to you.

It is entirely possible that people might just not like stories being integrated into games, and prefer to only play games like Mario that do not have stories. I think it is kind of silly to say that you can just youtube any game with a story and that would be a sufficient substitute for actually playing the game. It would actually be the equivalent of youtubing Mario Galaxy, because you would be missing all the gameplay.

arkephonic

I think the best thing I can do is just stop talking video games with you. I just couldn't disagree with you more about everything.

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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Oh sure you can have an opinion, it just doesn't mean jack sh!t to anyone because it isn't an informed opinion, the only kind that counts. Play the games before you start slinging out your bullsh!t.

You don't see me running around telling everybody how terrible Stronghold 3 is, despite the fact that it has been absolutely thrashed by reviewers. You want to know why? Because I don't own the game and any opinion I have about it hold absolutely no merit.

I actually respected you for your loyalty to such a critically lambasted game (Stronghold 3) and how genuine you were about the games shortcomings, but today you have proved to everybody on this forum that you are a complete moron.

And lol @ bringing age into this as if it means anything. I'm 23, come at me bro.

jg4xchamp

Don't care if this is a lounge for nice words, this is a prick comment and you should feel like a prick for making us read this shiit.

Cry more? You can do better than that. Your banishment has weakend your usually hilarious trollings of me :P

Is there any need to attack a user for his opinion in this thread? Leave that sh!t for the main board.soulitane

I feel the need to flash my E-peniis, come at me bro :P (but seriously, the lounge is not for system wars bs, there's a reason why I pretty much have abandoned SW besides the lounge)

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Don't care if this is a lounge for nice words, this is a prick comment and you should feel like a prick for making us read this shiit.

ActicEdge

Cry more? You can do better than that. Your banishment has weakend your usually hilarious trollings of me :P

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[QUOTE="Calvin079"] I borrowed Mario Galaxy and I didn't like it oddly enoguh. But mario doesn't need a plot. Everything needs a plot or a reason behind it these days or so it seems when it simply doesn't. Your castle was attacked? Who cares why, go smack some sense intothenemesis'foolish head! The princess was captured? who cares why, go save her! I don't mind intricate plots in a game. All I'm saying is, is that a person should be able to tell where the cutscene ends and the game begins when watching a walkthrough or gameplay video.

Calvin079

I think the best thing I can do is just stop talking video games with you. I just couldn't disagree with you more about everything.

Lol, you're not an enemy. I honestly don't care that much about video games to dislike someone because of them. It's just that you've made your point clear that you don't like stories being told in video games, especially in the form of cutscenes, and there's no real sense in arguing that. It's just your opinion.

It is a natural evolution of games, though. People expect more and more out of games every generation. It gets to the point where gameplay isn't enough, they want a story too. With all the horsepower consoles have nowadays, developers are actually able to create amazing cutscenes. It's just a result of where technology is today, and it will continue to be that way.

I've said many times that when it comes to a game, story is the least important thing to me. I rank things like graphics, gameplay, controls and sound above story. Despite that being the case, Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid are 2 of my favorite gaming franchises, not for the stories, but for the gameplay.

:P

I realize that, and though I'm quite reluctant to do so, yes the cutscenes are good. I expect cutscenes to continue and advance plots more and more. I'm off this time for sure.

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

I want someone to give me a free 3DS or free PS Vita.

That'd be glorious.

Why do they have to be so expensive? :cry:

Eponique

It is, but I tend to look at cost in comparison to what else I own, and the value I find in those other products.

I mean if I wanted a 3DS new it'd be $170 right off the bat. If I wanted a game that'd be another $30-$40. Sales tax would be another $15 or so... That's just pretty extreme amount to be paying to play one game.

Same goes for the Vita. By the time I get one game into a Vita I'd probably have spent $350......

You combine the price for both items, and two games and it's encroaching on the cost of my PC which is just nasty!!!!!!

That's why I want someone to give them to me for free. I just don't see enough games to justify to starting price just yet, so if I could just remove the starting price I'd be happy :)

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

I want someone to give me a free 3DS or free PS Vita.

That'd be glorious.

Why do they have to be so expensive? :cry:

SW__Troll

It is, but I tend to look at cost in comparison to what else I own, and the value I find in those other products.

I mean if I wanted a 3DS new it'd be $170 right off the bat. If I wanted a game that'd be another $30-$40. Sales tax would be another $15 or so... That's just pretty extreme amount to be paying to play one game.

Same goes for the Vita. By the time I get one game into a Vita I'd probably have spent $350......

You combine the price for both items, and two games and it's encroaching on the cost of my PC which is just nasty!!!!!!

That's why I want someone to give them to me for free. I just don't see enough games to justify to starting price just yet, so if I could just remove the starting price I'd be happy :)

Totally agree with you man.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Cry more?jg4xchamp

Cry more? You can do better than that. Your banishment has weakend your usually hilarious trollings of me :P

Lol that's funny.

I should be sleepin, got crappy 9:30 class tomorrow. (sigh)

It is, but I tend to look at cost in comparison to what else I own, and the value I find in those other products.

I mean if I wanted a 3DS new it'd be $170 right off the bat. If I wanted a game that'd be another $30-$40. Sales tax would be another $15 or so... That's just pretty extreme amount to be paying to play one game.

Same goes for the Vita. By the time I get one game into a Vita I'd probably have spent $350......

You combine the price for both items, and two games and it's encroaching on the cost of my PC which is just nasty!!!!!!

That's why I want someone to give them to me for free. I just don't see enough games to justify to starting price just yet, so if I could just remove the starting price I'd be happy :)

SW__Troll

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

It is, but I tend to look at cost in comparison to what else I own, and the value I find in those other products.

I mean if I wanted a 3DS new it'd be $170 right off the bat. If I wanted a game that'd be another $30-$40. Sales tax would be another $15 or so... That's just pretty extreme amount to be paying to play one game.

Same goes for the Vita. By the time I get one game into a Vita I'd probably have spent $350......

You combine the price for both items, and two games and it's encroaching on the cost of my PC which is just nasty!!!!!!

That's why I want someone to give them to me for free. I just don't see enough games to justify to starting price just yet, so if I could just remove the starting price I'd be happy :)

Eponique

There's a few key things I'm waiting for

1. Hopefully another price drop
2. A revision (because c'mon, we know they're going to come)
3. Some price drops on games
4. And hopefully if I could get a friend interested in getting a handheld with me

I really do want both handhelds, but at the moment I think half the reason I want them is because they're new, and shiny, so I'm doing everything I can to resist spending my hard-earned money.

I'm gonna wait a while to get a Vita. The only thing gaming related that I have been excited for this year has been Xenoblade Chronicles. I never ever pre-order games, but I did for Xenoblade and paid it off. Once I get that game, I'm pretty much set for the rest of the year, unless GTAV comes out 2012, but I think it will release in 2013. Gamestop isn't even taking pre-orders for it yet.

There's a few key things I'm waiting for

1. Hopefully another price drop
2. A revision (because c'mon, we know they're going to come)
3. Some price drops on games
4. And hopefully if I could get a friend interested in getting a handheld with me

I really do want both handhelds, but at the moment I think half the reason I want them is because they're new, and shiny, so I'm doing everything I can to resist spending my hard-earned money.

SW__Troll

I expect a 3DS revision in Q4 2012, probably to counteract a Vita price drop in Q3 2012; Nintendo has been very aggressive with their strategy lately and they'll probably want to steal Vita's thunder (if it will have any) this holiday season.

As for whether handhelds are worth it:

I bought my 3DS on November 13 (SM3DL release day) so 133 hours in 45 days is a lot I think :P

2012:

Eponique

I get a lot of playtime out of my 3DS. It's my plastic waifu :oops: