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If you vote for a publisher, you can't vote for a developer under them. So you either get to vote for Sony or for Naughty Dog, but you can't vote for both.
Sony
Naughty Dog
Kojima Productions
If you vote for a publisher, you can't vote for a developer under them. So you either get to vote for Sony or for Naughty Dog, but you can't vote for both.
well............ **** you man.... there is no way i can pick between them..
Nintendo is not 1 company who makes games. Nintendo has 6 different companies that makes game. So it´s not fair compare 6 companies as 1 company!!!
No, Nintendo is still one company, bro. it's one company with multiple divisions, yes, but it is still one company.
You saying that Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment are same? They devisions is like ND under Sony but its different company, but just name is called Nintendo but locations are in different places and they making different games. Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games.
So, clearly those are not Nintendo. If its all Nintendo, then Naughty Dog is also Sony divisions because Sony 100% owns Naughty Dog.
What the **** is this shit?
Yes, yes it is. I think you are starting to catch on.
I love Nintendo games. My favorite so far is Mario Kart 8, but i can´t leave truth and facts behind.
So, this means we have to count Naughty Dog as Sony because it´s same company because ND is Sony division.
Super Mario 3D World was developed by 1-UP Studio(like ND developed Uncharted).
Mario Kart 8 also was developed by Bandai Namco Games.
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze was developed by Retro Studios, Monster Games, .
So, it´s not Nintendo at all. Why we don´t count ND as Sony but we count first party exclusives different developers as Nintendo? You can google yourself that those developers made those games. That´s a truth, not a lie.
Nintendo is not 1 company who makes games. Nintendo has 6 different companies that makes game. So it´s not fair compare 6 companies as 1 company!!!
No, Nintendo is still one company, bro. it's one company with multiple divisions, yes, but it is still one company.
You saying that Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment are same? They devisions is like ND under Sony but its different company, but just name is called Nintendo but locations are in different places and they making different games. Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games.
So, clearly those are not Nintendo. If its all Nintendo, then Naughty Dog is also Sony divisions because Sony 100% owns Naughty Dog.
What the **** is this shit?
Yes, yes it is. I think you are starting to catch on.
I love Nintendo games. My favorite so far is Mario Kart 8, but i can´t leave truth and facts behind.
So, this means we have to count Naughty Dog as Sony because it´s same company because ND is Sony division.
Super Mario 3D World was developed by 1-UP Studio(like ND developed Uncharted).
Mario Kart 8 also was developed by Bandai Namco Games.
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze was developed by Retro Studios, Monster Games, .
So, it´s not Nintendo at all. Why we don´t count ND as Sony but we count first party exclusives different developers as Nintendo? You can google yourself that those developers made those games. That´s a truth, not a lie.
Give me proof of these two statements.
I just told you, we do count ND as Sony.
Sony
Naughty Dog
Kojima Productions
If you vote for a publisher, you can't vote for a developer under them. So you either get to vote for Sony or for Naughty Dog, but you can't vote for both.
well............ **** you man.... there is no way i can pick between them..
Sorry man, rules are rules, otherwise you are essentially voting for the same company twice.
Nintendo is not 1 company who makes games. Nintendo has 6 different companies that makes game. So it´s not fair compare 6 companies as 1 company!!!
No, Nintendo is still one company, bro. it's one company with multiple divisions, yes, but it is still one company.
You saying that Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment are same? They devisions is like ND under Sony but its different company, but just name is called Nintendo but locations are in different places and they making different games. Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games.
So, clearly those are not Nintendo. If its all Nintendo, then Naughty Dog is also Sony divisions because Sony 100% owns Naughty Dog.
What the **** is this shit?
Yes, yes it is. I think you are starting to catch on.
I love Nintendo games. My favorite so far is Mario Kart 8, but i can´t leave truth and facts behind.
So, this means we have to count Naughty Dog as Sony because it´s same company because ND is Sony division.
Super Mario 3D World was developed by 1-UP Studio(like ND developed Uncharted).
Mario Kart 8 also was developed by Bandai Namco Games.
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze was developed by Retro Studios, Monster Games, .
So, it´s not Nintendo at all. Why we don´t count ND as Sony but we count first party exclusives different developers as Nintendo? You can google yourself that those developers made those games. That´s a truth, not a lie.
Give me proof of these two statements.
I just told you, we do count ND as Sony.
Sony
Naughty Dog
Kojima Productions
If you vote for a publisher, you can't vote for a developer under them. So you either get to vote for Sony or for Naughty Dog, but you can't vote for both.
well............ **** you man.... there is no way i can pick between them..
Sorry man, rules are rules, otherwise you are essentially voting for the same company twice.
I never gave proof because all my arguments are always truth and it can be found in internet.
So, first time i give you 2 examples that everyone can find in internet:
1)http://www.giantbomb.com/1-up-studio/3010-8528/ - mario 3d world
2)http://www.mariowiki.com/Bandai_Namco_Games - mario kart 8.
I NEVER LIED, PROOF IS ALWAYS IN INTERNET BUT I NEVER GONNA PROVE BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN FIND PROOF THEIRSELVES. Now you can see that you think im lying again when i did not. Proof is right there. They also developed games. A whole time i was telling truth and proof was in internet, but for some people it´s just easier to tell someone else to find proof and not theirselves. Do i give proof that Hitler killed himself?
So, first time i give you 2 examples that everyone can find in internet:
1)http://www.giantbomb.com/1-up-studio/3010-8528/ - mario 3d world
2)http://www.mariowiki.com/Bandai_Namco_Games - mario kart 8.
I NEVER LIED, PROOF IS ALWAYS IN INTERNET BUT I NEVER GONNA PROVE BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN FIND PROOF THEIRSELVES. Now you can see that you think im lying again when i did not. Proof is right there. They also developed games.
1) '1-Up Studio assisted Nintendo with the development of Super Mario 3D World...'
2) 'Bandai Namco assisted Nintendo with asset development for Mario Kart 8'
Where does it say that these two companies developed these games and not Nintendo?
They assisted asset development, which is not at all the same thing as actual game development. Once again, you are distorting information. Once again, you are posting inaccurate information. You need to stop, I've given you enough warnings.
Give me proof of these two statements.
I just told you, we do count ND as Sony.
I never gave proof because all my arguments are always truth and it can be found in internet.
So, first time i give you 2 examples that everyone can find in internet:
1)http://www.giantbomb.com/1-up-studio/3010-8528/ - mario 3d world
2)http://www.mariowiki.com/Bandai_Namco_Games - mario kart 8.
I NEVER LIED, PROOF IS ALWAYS IN INTERNET BUT I NEVER GONNA PROVE BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN FIND PROOF THEIRSELVES. Now you can see that you think im lying again when i did not. Proof is right there. They also developed games. A whole time i was telling truth and proof was in internet, but for some people it´s just easier to tell someone else to find proof and not theirselves. Do i give proof that Hitler killed himself?
Did you actually read your own links you dumbass?
Nintendo is not 1 company who makes games. Nintendo has 6 different companies that makes game. So it´s not fair compare 6 companies as 1 company!!!
No, Nintendo is still one company, bro. it's one company with multiple divisions, yes, but it is still one company.
You saying that Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment are same? They devisions is like ND under Sony but its different company, but just name is called Nintendo but locations are in different places and they making different games. Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games.
So, clearly those are not Nintendo. If its all Nintendo, then Naughty Dog is also Sony divisions because Sony 100% owns Naughty Dog.
What the **** is this shit?
Yes, yes it is. I think you are starting to catch on.
I love Nintendo games. My favorite so far is Mario Kart 8, but i can´t leave truth and facts behind.
So, this means we have to count Naughty Dog as Sony because it´s same company because ND is Sony division.
Super Mario 3D World was developed by 1-UP Studio(like ND developed Uncharted).
Mario Kart 8 also was developed by Bandai Namco Games.
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze was developed by Retro Studios, Monster Games, .
So, it´s not Nintendo at all. Why we don´t count ND as Sony but we count first party exclusives different developers as Nintendo? You can google yourself that those developers made those games. That´s a truth, not a lie.
Give me proof of these two statements.
I just told you, we do count ND as Sony.
Sony
Naughty Dog
Kojima Productions
If you vote for a publisher, you can't vote for a developer under them. So you either get to vote for Sony or for Naughty Dog, but you can't vote for both.
well............ **** you man.... there is no way i can pick between them..
Sorry man, rules are rules, otherwise you are essentially voting for the same company twice.
I never gave proof because all my arguments are always truth and it can be found in internet.
So, first time i give you 2 examples that everyone can find in internet:
1)http://www.giantbomb.com/1-up-studio/3010-8528/ - mario 3d world
2)http://www.mariowiki.com/Bandai_Namco_Games - mario kart 8.
I NEVER LIED, PROOF IS ALWAYS IN INTERNET BUT I NEVER GONNA PROVE BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN FIND PROOF THEIRSELVES. Now you can see that you think im lying again when i did not. Proof is right there. They also developed games.
1) '1-Up Studio assisted Nintendo with the development of Super Mario 3D World...'
2) 'Bandai Namco assisted Nintendo with asset development for Mario Kart 8'
Where does it say that these two companies developed these games and not Nintendo?
They assisted asset development, which is not at all the same thing as actual game development. Once again, you are distorting information. Once again, you are posting inaccurate information. You need to stop, I've given you enough warnings.
I said "also". Also means more than 1. I said also not only Nintendo. but 1-Up studio too. So, this means it´s not made 100% only by Nintendo.
So, this is not INACCURATE INFO!!!
Also, what happens with argument "If you vote for a publisher, you can't vote for a developer under them." Half Japan Nintendo developed, but America Nintendo publisher what means those are 2 different comapnies. So, you can´t vote publisher and developer at same time.
1) '1-Up Studio assisted Nintendo with the development of Super Mario 3D World...'
2) 'Bandai Namco assisted Nintendo with asset development for Mario Kart 8'
Where does it say that these two companies developed these games and not Nintendo?
They assisted asset development, which is not at all the same thing as actual game development. Once again, you are distorting information. Once again, you are posting inaccurate information. You need to stop, I've given you enough warnings.
I said "also". Also means more than 1. I said also not only Nintendo. but 1-Up studio too. So, this means it´s not made 100% only by Nintendo.
So, this is not INACCURATE INFO!!!
That's not what you said at all, I know because it's on the internet
"Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games."
"Super Mario 3D World was developed by 1-UP Studio(like ND developed Uncharted).
Mario Kart 8 also was developed by Bandai Namco Games."
1) '1-Up Studio assisted Nintendo with the development of Super Mario 3D World...'
2) 'Bandai Namco assisted Nintendo with asset development for Mario Kart 8'
Where does it say that these two companies developed these games and not Nintendo?
They assisted asset development, which is not at all the same thing as actual game development. Once again, you are distorting information. Once again, you are posting inaccurate information. You need to stop, I've given you enough warnings.
I said "also". Also means more than 1. I said also not only Nintendo. but 1-Up studio too. So, this means it´s not made 100% only by Nintendo.
So, this is not INACCURATE INFO!!!
That's not what you said at all, I know because it's on the internet
"Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games."
"Super Mario 3D World was developed by 1-UP Studio(like ND developed Uncharted).
Mario Kart 8 also was developed by Bandai Namco Games."
Because you said it was made only by Nintendo. I proved that it was not only made by Nintendo but also by other studios. Stop lying all the time. lostrib you stalk all my post. Do you even have life? I don´t think so.
I said "also". Also means more than 1. I said also not only Nintendo. but 1-Up studio too. So, this means it´s not made 100% only by Nintendo.
So, this is not INACCURATE INFO!!!
Here's your original post. I bolded the relevant parts:
You saying that Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment are same? They devisions is like ND under Sony but its different company, but just name is called Nintendo but locations are in different places and they making different games. Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games.
So, clearly those are not Nintendo. If its all Nintendo, then Naughty Dog is also Sony divisions because Sony 100% owns Naughty Dog.
Then here was the second post:
I love Nintendo games. My favorite so far is Mario Kart 8, but i can´t leave truth and facts behind.
So, this means we have to count Naughty Dog as Sony because it´s same company because ND is Sony division.
Super Mario 3D World was developed by 1-UP Studio(like ND developed Uncharted).
Mario Kart 8 also was developed by Bandai Namco Games.
The only time you used 'also' was once in the second post where you are saying 'in addition, Mario Kart 8 was also...'
Even if, assuming English to not be your first language, and just an unintentional error having been made on your part, you deliberately misworded it in the first post, and also, that only covers one of the games- you were still wrong about Mario 3D World, and, perhaps most importantly, Namco Bandai having assisted in asset development for Mario Kart 8 does not change the fact that it is still a Nintendo game.
1) '1-Up Studio assisted Nintendo with the development of Super Mario 3D World...'
2) 'Bandai Namco assisted Nintendo with asset development for Mario Kart 8'
Where does it say that these two companies developed these games and not Nintendo?
They assisted asset development, which is not at all the same thing as actual game development. Once again, you are distorting information. Once again, you are posting inaccurate information. You need to stop, I've given you enough warnings.
I said "also". Also means more than 1. I said also not only Nintendo. but 1-Up studio too. So, this means it´s not made 100% only by Nintendo.
So, this is not INACCURATE INFO!!!
That's not what you said at all, I know because it's on the internet
"Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games."
"Super Mario 3D World was developed by 1-UP Studio(like ND developed Uncharted).
Mario Kart 8 also was developed by Bandai Namco Games."
Because you said it was made only by Nintendo. I proved that it was not only made by Nintendo but also by other studios. Stop lying all the time. lostrib you stalk all my post. Do you even have life? I don´t think so.
I didn't say shit. And no you said it wasn't made by nintendo, which is not true. By your logic Valve didn't make CSGO.
I said "also". Also means more than 1. I said also not only Nintendo. but 1-Up studio too. So, this means it´s not made 100% only by Nintendo.
So, this is not INACCURATE INFO!!!
Here's your original post. I bolded the relevant parts:
You saying that Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment are same? They devisions is like ND under Sony but its different company, but just name is called Nintendo but locations are in different places and they making different games. Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games.
So, clearly those are not Nintendo. If its all Nintendo, then Naughty Dog is also Sony divisions because Sony 100% owns Naughty Dog.
Then here was the second post:
I love Nintendo games. My favorite so far is Mario Kart 8, but i can´t leave truth and facts behind.
So, this means we have to count Naughty Dog as Sony because it´s same company because ND is Sony division.
Super Mario 3D World was developed by 1-UP Studio(like ND developed Uncharted).
Mario Kart 8 also was developed by Bandai Namco Games.
The only time you used 'also' was once in the second post where you are saying 'in addition, Mario Kart 8 was also...'
Even if, assuming English to not be your first language, and just an unintentional error having been made on your part, you deliberately misworded it in the first post, and also, that only covers one of the games- you were still wrong about Mario 3D World, and, perhaps most importantly, Namco Bandai having assisted in asset development for Mario Kart 8 does not change the fact that it is still a Nintendo game.
Its Nintendo game but not only developed by only Nintendo. I said also at very end because this means to all games, not only about Mario Kart 8.
Yes, my english is not my first language and you may see some english errors but i diden´t like about that other developers also made Nintendo games, not Nintendo solo. Asset dev means still developing game with other companies. So, 2 companies made Mario Kart 8, not only by Nintendo only.
Now comes the most confusing part. You said develope and publisher can´t be same,(you can´t vote) but what about Nintendo? He develope and publish game...
Its Nintendo game but not only developed by only Nintendo. I said also at very end because this means to all games, not only about Mario Kart 8.
Yes, my english is not my first language and you may see some english errors but i diden´t like about that other developers also made Nintendo games, not Nintendo solo. Asset dev means still developing game with other companies. So, 2 companies made Mario Kart 8, not only by Nintendo only.
No you did not.
Asset development is also a very common practice in the industry, and is not just limited to Nintendo. By your definition, Valve has made none of its games, none of the Call of Duty, Uncharted, Sony Japan, God of War, Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Halo, and so on, games were made by their developers, and generally speaking, you wouldn't give credit to anyone for anything.
And no, two companies did not make Mario Kart 8. Nintendo made Mario Kart 8. Some grunt work done by Namco Bandai does not change that. Neither does this change the fact that you were originally wrong, pulling facts out of your ass, then misleading people with distorted information, and then trying to go back on all of that, all of which comes back to the simple fact that... none of this has anything to do with the topic on hand. Nintendo developed those games, plain and simple. People like those games. People voted for Nintendo. You don't like that, tough shit, feel free to vote for whoever you think is more deserving and try to change the standings constructively instead of shitting this thread up.
Now comes the most confusing part. You said develope and publisher can´t be same,(you can´t vote) but what about Nintendo? He develope and publish game...
No, I said exactly the opposite. 'For the purposes of this contest, a publisher and a developer are one and the same.'
I said if you vote for the publisher, you can't vote for a subsidiary developer, and vice versa. Last call, dude. Stop shitting the thread up. I've lost my patience with you.
@charizard1605: Seriously, whatever happened to this great idea for FreedomFreeLife: "I have tried to get you to drop your unnecessary trolling and misleading thread making, again, and again, and again. Clearly, verbal warnings don't work for you. Maybe something more lasting and permanent will help."
1. Nintendo
2. Valve
3. Retro Studios
Honorable mentions:
Blizzard - Diablo 3 sucked so much ass I couldn't list them. Makes me wonder if they're still able to make good games when they screw up something so big.
Intelligent Systems - Really hard to choose from this and Retro, but Retro has done something awesome more recently.
I usually go for an "objective" answer in these threads and base my answer on recent years. This time I'm going more personal preference and looking at my entire run as a gamer.
1. Nintendo.
2. Square
3. Konami
Can this include now defunct developers? If so
Honorable mentions: Looking Glass Studios
Edit: Forgot to include my other list incase defunct devs don't count.
If not,
I think you put in franchises instead of developers in one of your rules :P
Nintendo is not 1 company who makes games. Nintendo has 6 different companies that makes game. So it´s not fair compare 6 companies as 1 company!!!
No, Nintendo is still one company, bro. it's one company with multiple divisions, yes, but it is still one company.
You saying that Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment are same? They devisions is like ND under Sony but its different company, but just name is called Nintendo but locations are in different places and they making different games. Mario Party 3D world was made by 1-UP Studio, not Nintendo. Mario Party 9 was made by Nd Cube, not Nintendo. Mario Kart 8 was made by Bandai Namco Games.
So, clearly those are not Nintendo. If its all Nintendo, then Naughty Dog is also Sony divisions because Sony 100% owns Naughty Dog.
What the **** is this shit?
Yes, yes it is. I think you are starting to catch on.
Well he has a point if you think about it but yeah ok this is not for this topic i guess.
Get a life
Stay classy Blabadon
Blab is a typical console goon.
Go back to being a console fanboy you.
Valve is greatest developers made sophisticated games for men
Nintendo
Capcom
Grasshopper Manufacture
Micheal my dearest friend, why you so casual? nintendo and capcom are casual developers
I'm going to vote based on my fanboy-ism, sorry :D
1-CDPR. I shouldn't vote for them right now really, since W3 is not out yet and who knows it might flop :'(. But W1 & W2 were masterpieces imo and I feel like I wanna vote for them.
2-Bioware. Bioware as a whole is great imo, you can forget about DA2 which was at least an ok game while ME3 was great imo but maybe not as great as predecessors. They made Baldurs Gate, Mass effect and Dragon Age, I think that's enough reason to vote for them. :)
3-Blizzard. No explanation needed ;)
Honorable mentions: Valve, Nintendo, Remedy, Irrational games and Square Enix. Maybe Capcom and Ubisoft too but that would ruin my rep. ;p
Okay, so I just redid the tallies all from the beginning. There are no errors now, so you can treat these as concrete. Some very interesting observations:
And a note, if your post only had three companies listed, and was violating the publisher/developer rule, I didn't count it towards the tallies. If it was violating the publisher/developer rule, but at least had more than three companies listed, I ignored the lower ranked of the publisher or developer, and counted the fourth entry as the third place nomination.
Amazing how many people bash Nintendo but when asked who's the best company, all you see is Nintendo lol
Yeah, I wonder what @nintendoboy16 has to say about this. lol.
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