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#951 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

I'm frightened about what these changes mean for the forum. I wonder, what was the reason for (if I'm missing it in one of the OP posts sorry) the change?

Do you fear it will have an effect on traffic? Was it simply a matter of too much to moderate?

I have to say, I liked things better when people couldn't blantly insult you, and I appreciated that Gamespot was one of the few sites where that was taken care of shortly after it happened, unlike forums on other major sites.

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this is the internet, if someone says something that hurts your feelings get over it and the reason they changed the rules is because it was becoming so blatantly obvious what SW was about that there was no use in trying to mod people for trolling

it was to make the site more about what the users want and not so much about what the higher ups had in mind. a compromise would have been better.

yeah but if it doesn't work out they will just change it btw why is it whenever I see you your mod badge is always gone?
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#952 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] this is the internet, if someone says something that hurts your feelings get over it and the reason they changed the rules is because it was becoming so blatantly obvious what SW was about that there was no use in trying to mod people for trollinglbjkurono23

it was to make the site more about what the users want and not so much about what the higher ups had in mind. a compromise would have been better.

They took the easy way out.

maybe. lightening up on the rules? good. throwing them out the window? too far.

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#953 bonesawisready5
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] this is the internet, if someone says something that hurts your feelings get over it and the reason they changed the rules is because it was becoming so blatantly obvious what SW was about that there was no use in trying to mod people for trollinglbjkurono23

it was to make the site more about what the users want and not so much about what the higher ups had in mind. a compromise would have been better.

They took the easy way out.

How was this done? Like, did a group of people just alter the thread with the TOS? Is this approved by the people who run GameSpot, or our they just letting users run everything?

I'm just curious as to how this sort of thing works

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#954 racing1750
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]

The king of trolls Tree killing elpresador TREY 4 life!

N30F3N1X

Is that Cena vs The Rock thing in your sig real?

If you mean real as in they're wrestling at Wrestlemania 28, then yes it is.
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#955 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it was to make the site more about what the users want and not so much about what the higher ups had in mind. a compromise would have been better.

bonesawisready5

They took the easy way out.

How was this done? Like, did a group of people just alter the thread with the TOS? Is this approved by the people who run GameSpot, or our they just letting users run everything?

I'm just curious as to how this sort of thing works

there was a survey a while back that was open for everybody. the changes were based on the results of that.

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#956 racing1750
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I'm frightened about what these changes mean for the forum. I wonder, what was the reason for (if I'm missing it in one of the OP posts sorry) the change?

Do you fear it will have an effect on traffic? Was it simply a matter of too much to moderate?

I have to say, I liked things better when people couldn't blantly insult you, and I appreciated that Gamespot was one of the few sites where that was taken care of shortly after it happened, unlike forums on other major sites.

bonesawisready5

If you're frightened over this change, are your pretty much saying "Yeh insults over the internet get to me"

Seriously, if people insult you then ignore them. Hell for your on entertainment play around with the guy that is insulting you :P

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#957 kuraimen
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If trolling is not allowed in SW then they should just change the name and make a different board about general system discussion. What it was here was users who knew how to troll without breaking the rules and users who didn't know how to troll without breaking the rules but everybody basically trolls. One of the most trollish individuals in this site (stevo) is also one of the most respected because he knew how to troll around the rules.
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#958 CaseyWegner
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If trolling is not allowed in SW then they should just change the name and make a different board about general system discussion. What it was here was users who knew how to troll without breaking the rules and users who didn't know how to troll without breaking the rules but everybody basically trolls. One of the most trollish individuals in this site (stevo) is also one of the most respected because he knew how to troll around the rules.kuraimen

or change the title to fanboy wars. nothing in the title "system wars" implies that trolling should be involved. it's a war among the systems.

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#959 organic_machine
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Casey, did you step down from being a mod? Or are you on a mod break?

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#960 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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One of the most trollish individuals in this site (stevo) is also one of the most respected because he knew how to troll around the rules.kuraimen
It's gets old having to sugar coat everything.
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#961 CaseyWegner
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Casey, did you step down from being a mod? Or are you on a mod break?

organic_machine

involuntary break. there will be an article about it in the next system wars magazine.

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#962 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]If trolling is not allowed in SW then they should just change the name and make a different board about general system discussion. What it was here was users who knew how to troll without breaking the rules and users who didn't know how to troll without breaking the rules but everybody basically trolls. One of the most trollish individuals in this site (stevo) is also one of the most respected because he knew how to troll around the rules.CaseyWegner

or change the title to fanboy wars. nothing in the title "system wars" implies that trolling should be involved. it's a war among the systems.

You can troll using the systems too not individuals, you yourself moderated me for saying things like "360 has no games". In the end the rules didn't prevent trolling they just prevented some people from trolling while others knew how to troll without breaking the rules. I don't see how this place makes sense without any trolling. They would limit itself to news about systems and games. Systems News should be called then.
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#963 bonesawisready5
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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"] They took the easy way out.CaseyWegner

How was this done? Like, did a group of people just alter the thread with the TOS? Is this approved by the people who run GameSpot, or our they just letting users run everything?

I'm just curious as to how this sort of thing works

there was a survey a while back that was open for everybody. the changes were based on the results of that.

ah, must have missed that.

I wonder if the increased "lol you suckz" from the beginnings of a new gen (Wii U, Xbox 3, PS4 on horizon with Vita/3DS out) was a factor in more troll traffic, and if maybe the rules will change once all next gen consoles are out for a while and that kinda of posting has calmed down.

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#964 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]One of the most trollish individuals in this site (stevo) is also one of the most respected because he knew how to troll around the rules.Stevo_the_gamer
It's gets old having to sugar coat everything.

Exactly, some people like you are experts at it. Some of us are not so good :P
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#965 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]If trolling is not allowed in SW then they should just change the name and make a different board about general system discussion. What it was here was users who knew how to troll without breaking the rules and users who didn't know how to troll without breaking the rules but everybody basically trolls. One of the most trollish individuals in this site (stevo) is also one of the most respected because he knew how to troll around the rules.kuraimen

or change the title to fanboy wars. nothing in the title "system wars" implies that trolling should be involved. it's a war among the systems.

You can troll using the systems too not individuals, you yourself moderated me for saying things like "360 has no games". In the end the rules didn't prevent trolling they just prevented some people from trolling while others knew how to troll without breaking the rules. I don't see how this place makes sense without any trolling. They would limit itself to news about systems and games. Systems News should be called then.

Your posts were normally not informative and were filled with typical Sony drone mentalities which is why you got--probably on a multitude of occasions--slaps on the wrist. There's a difference between just saying "Xbox 360 has no games," and "Xbox 360 has no games because of x and y. This shows z because of reason q and b."
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#966 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]One of the most trollish individuals in this site (stevo) is also one of the most respected because he knew how to troll around the rules.kuraimen
It's gets old having to sugar coat everything.

Exactly, some people like you are experts at it. Some of us are not so good :P

I am an expert as using common sense, unfortunately... the drones/fanboys have incredible difficulty excising even the most basic procedures of debate.
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#967 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

or change the title to fanboy wars. nothing in the title "system wars" implies that trolling should be involved. it's a war among the systems.

Stevo_the_gamer

You can troll using the systems too not individuals, you yourself moderated me for saying things like "360 has no games". In the end the rules didn't prevent trolling they just prevented some people from trolling while others knew how to troll without breaking the rules. I don't see how this place makes sense without any trolling. They would limit itself to news about systems and games. Systems News should be called then.

Your posts were normally not informative and were filled with typical Sony drone mentalities which is why you got--probably on a multitude of occasions--slaps on the wrist. There's a difference between just saying "Xbox 360 has no games," and "Xbox 360 has no games because of x and y. This shows z because of reason q and b."

This post got me modded for trolling with a point loss

"It depends on how you look at it. People say all those things because the offer of exclusives on the 360 side has been lacking as of late to say the least so in that regard they are right. When they say "360 has no games" they don't mean that it doesn't have games but it is a way of having fun and pissing off the other side. Exactly like lems and sheep used to do with the PS3 when it had games yet they kept saying that the "ps3 had no games". Strangely enough that was allowed back then and not now. "

Just an example of many...

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#968 racing1750
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

or change the title to fanboy wars. nothing in the title "system wars" implies that trolling should be involved. it's a war among the systems.

Stevo_the_gamer

You can troll using the systems too not individuals, you yourself moderated me for saying things like "360 has no games". In the end the rules didn't prevent trolling they just prevented some people from trolling while others knew how to troll without breaking the rules. I don't see how this place makes sense without any trolling. They would limit itself to news about systems and games. Systems News should be called then.

Your posts were normally not informative and were filled with typical Sony drone mentalities which is why you got--probably on a multitude of occasions--slaps on the wrist. There's a difference between just saying "Xbox 360 has no games," and "Xbox 360 has no games because of x and y. This shows z because of reason q and b."

Fanboys don't have the intelligence to put up good arguments, sadly.

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#969 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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This post got me modded for trolling with a point loss

"It depends on how you look at it. People say all those things because the offer of exclusives on the 360 side has been lacking as of late to say the least so in that regard they are right. When they say "360 has no games" they don't mean that it doesn't have games but it is a way of having fun and pissing off the other side. Exactly like lems and sheep used to do with the PS3 when it had games yet they kept saying that the "ps3 had no games". Strangely enough that was allowed back then and not now. "

Just an example of many...

kuraimen

Without the context, that message looks fine and the moderation seems invalid.

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#970 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Fanboys don't have the intelligence to put up good arguments, sadly.

racing1750

That is indeed the case in almost every regard.

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#971 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

This post got me modded for trolling with a point loss

"It depends on how you look at it. People say all those things because the offer of exclusives on the 360 side has been lacking as of late to say the least so in that regard they are right. When they say "360 has no games" they don't mean that it doesn't have games but it is a way of having fun and pissing off the other side. Exactly like lems and sheep used to do with the PS3 when it had games yet they kept saying that the "ps3 had no games". Strangely enough that was allowed back then and not now. "

Just an example of many...

Stevo_the_gamer

Without the context, that message looks fine and the moderation seems invalid.

Well that was the kind of stuff I got modded sometimes that made me think this place moderation system should change because it was confusing as hell.
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Man SolidRev was AWESOME I remember a video in which he was going to **** 2 hot girls But then the girls found out Halo in his room, and left him for being a **** :P anyone has the youtube link :cry:Giancar

Here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Fh7TS_aWM

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#973 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Well that was the kind of stuff I got modded sometimes that made me think this place moderation system should change because it was confusing as hell.

It wasn't confusing; the issue simply rested with moderator discretion. Some moderators are more modest in their application of the rules while others are more strict.
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#974 Giancar
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Here ya go

*link*

BPoole96

amazing man, just amazing ='D

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#975 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"] just like resistance, motorstorm, warhawk, lair, etc. were supposed to be?

hurray for mods fueling worthless threads that need to be closed

Point loss and suspended for that 1 week :|
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#976 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]If trolling is not allowed in SW then they should just change the name and make a different board about general system discussion. What it was here was users who knew how to troll without breaking the rules and users who didn't know how to troll without breaking the rules but everybody basically trolls. One of the most trollish individuals in this site (stevo) is also one of the most respected because he knew how to troll around the rules.kuraimen

or change the title to fanboy wars. nothing in the title "system wars" implies that trolling should be involved. it's a war among the systems.

You can troll using the systems too not individuals, you yourself moderated me for saying things like "360 has no games". In the end the rules didn't prevent trolling they just prevented some people from trolling while others knew how to troll without breaking the rules. I don't see how this place makes sense without any trolling. They would limit itself to news about systems and games. Systems News should be called then.

trolling is trolling. making trollish comments at all wasn't the wisest move in a forum where trolling wasn't allowed.

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If trolling is not allowed in SW then they should just change the name and make a different board about general system discussion. What it was here was users who knew how to troll without breaking the rules and users who didn't know how to troll without breaking the rules but everybody basically trolls. One of the most trollish individuals in this site (stevo) is also one of the most respected because he knew how to troll around the rules.kuraimen
Stevo is respected? :o
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since trolling is allowed now we should have a thread that lists people who aren't worth responding to and then sticky it for all to see.

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#979 DarkLink77
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since trolling is allowed now we should have a thread that lists people who aren't worth responding to and then sticky it for all to see.

CaseyWegner
No one would read it anyway, and even if they did, it wouldn't work. This forum is so easy to bait.
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#980 kuraimen
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since trolling is allowed now we should have a thread that lists people who aren't worth responding to and then sticky it for all to see.

CaseyWegner

I would troll the **** out of that thread :P

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#981 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

since trolling is allowed now we should have a thread that lists people who aren't worth responding to and then sticky it for all to see.

DarkLink77

No one would read it anyway, and even if they did, it wouldn't work. This forum is so easy to bait.

if it prevents one person from wasting their time then it's worth it. i would love to have one.

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#982 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

since trolling is allowed now we should have a thread that lists people who aren't worth responding to and then sticky it for all to see.

CaseyWegner

No one would read it anyway, and even if they did, it wouldn't work. This forum is so easy to bait.

if it prevents one person from wasting their time then it's worth it. i would love to have one.

Why would you even post on this forum if not for the trolling that goes on here? There literally is no other point.
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#983 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] No one would read it anyway, and even if they did, it wouldn't work. This forum is so easy to bait.DarkLink77

if it prevents one person from wasting their time then it's worth it. i would love to have one.

Why would you even post on this forum if not for the trolling that goes on here? There literally is no other point.

i was thinking more along the lines of people who will just reply with insults instead of anything of substance.

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I don't think this will work but it'll be interesting to see. Nice to see something new what with this place becoming so stale.

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What I find interesting is this is becoming more and more of an enlightening thread as people are just allowed to talk and be cool with each other. I realize I'm the samuel L Jackson of system wars but be cool honey bunny. It's really not that complicated. I think the mods have been making it worse.

Ostracism is a form of bullying.

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#986 Animal-Mother
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since trolling is allowed now we should have a thread that lists people who aren't worth responding to and then sticky it for all to see.

CaseyWegner
The system wars scarlet letter?
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#987 Animal-Mother
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Also no one has mentioned cursing whats the dealio?

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#988 CaseyWegner
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What I find interesting is this is becoming more and more of an enlightening thread as people are just allowed to talk and be cool with each other. I realize I'm the samuel L Jackson of system wars but be cool honey bunny. It's really not that complicated. I think the mods have been making it worse.

Ostracism is a form of bullying.

Celtic_34

ostracizing people who want to have an intelligent debate is an improvement?

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#989 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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omg how many of you go to youtube what are you doing with your livesJandurin

Coming from someone with over 89,000 posts on a web forum? ;) :P

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#990 Celtic_34
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[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

What I find interesting is this is becoming more and more of an enlightening thread as people are just allowed to talk and be cool with each other. I realize I'm the samuel L Jackson of system wars but be cool honey bunny. It's really not that complicated. I think the mods have been making it worse.

Ostracism is a form of bullying.

CaseyWegner

ostracizing people who want to have an intelligent debate is an improvement?

No it's not.

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#991 Slow_Show
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] This forum is so easy to bait.

Says the person with a DNF sig. :lol: [spoiler] *trollface.jpg/ughnotbeingabletopostimages* [/spoiler]
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#992 racing1750
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]omg how many of you go to youtube what are you doing with your livesAdobeArtist

Coming from someone with over 89,000 posts on a web forum? ;) :P

Ouch he got you there Jan :P
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#993 verbtex  Moderator
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[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]BPoole96

I know you asked this a while ago but I didn't see that until now after reading through the thread.

I'm not so sure, I'll get an answer back to you on this.

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#994 ActicEdge
Member since 2008 • 24492 Posts

I already don't like this, the place has just become infested with stupidity and it craps up threads that might have a hint of decency.

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#995 ActionRemix
Member since 2011 • 5640 Posts

I already don't like this, the place has just become infested with stupidity and it craps up threads that might have a hint of decency.

ActicEdge
I'm loving the new System Wars.
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#996 ActicEdge
Member since 2008 • 24492 Posts

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I already don't like this, the place has just become infested with stupidity and it craps up threads that might have a hint of decency.

ActionRemix

I'm loving the new System Wars.

I know, a little too much. I've never been one for trolling because frankly its an art most people suck at.

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#997 Ballroompirate
Member since 2005 • 26695 Posts

I already don't like this, the place has just become infested with stupidity and it craps up threads that might have a hint of decency.

ActicEdge

SW was already infested with stupidity, in fact in was a lot worse. Now you can actually call people being stupid for saying something that clearly is wrong or bad.

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#998 ActionRemix
Member since 2011 • 5640 Posts

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I already don't like this, the place has just become infested with stupidity and it craps up threads that might have a hint of decency.

ActicEdge

I'm loving the new System Wars.

I know, a little too much. I've never been one for trolling because frankly its an art most people suck at.

I've never understood why people have so much trouble with it. People try too hard. How to effectively troll: State the facts and express your legitimate opinions :P
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#999 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]verbtex

I know you asked this a while ago but I didn't see that until now after reading through the thread.

I'm not so sure, I'll get an answer back to you on this.

Its not allowed. I got modded for it :P

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#1000 D4W1L4H
Member since 2011 • 1765 Posts

Number 1000.