SYSTEM WARS VOTES- Greatest RPG of All Time Face-off: The Witcher 3 VS Chrono Trigger

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Poll SYSTEM WARS VOTES- Greatest RPG of All Time Face-off: The Witcher 3 VS Chrono Trigger (158 votes)

Chrono Trigger 51%
The Witcher III: Wild Hunt 49%

I asked. You answered. Through the two contests conducted here at System Wars over the last five weeks, all of us came together and voted to determine what, in our collective opinion, are the greatest JRPGs and WRPGs of all time.

After almost 200 votes and nominations for 150 games across the two contests, the results for both of them are now in.

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Square and Enix collaborated for Chrono Trigger, a late SNES era JRPG, and they ended up crafting what is still considered to be the genre’s finest outing, more than 20 years after its initial release. Chrono Trigger was a pioneering game, that in many ways is still far ahead of JRPGs made today- it eschewed the random battles that were so prevalent for the genre at the time. It forewent the traditional swords and sorcery trappings to deliver an unusual, science fiction story with very real stakes. And it made player choice a central mechanic, with every action the player took through the course of its play time, no matter how innocuous, factoring into how the story played out. With 19 endings and one of the most memorable casts of all time, Chrono Trigger is the greatest JRPG ever made. The wide gulf in points between Chrono Trigger and, well, every other game on the JRPG list, only serves to reinforce that.

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CD Projekt RED finally realized their vision for Geralt’s story with The Witcher 3, which may well be the greatest modern translation of the classic cRPG yet. The Witcher III: Wild Hunt plunges players into a dark world, torn by war, where every action has a consequence, and there is no good or evil- only shades of grey in between. Featuring incredible writing, and some of the best examples of quests we have in video games yet, The Witcher 3 is a landmark for not just the story it tells, but also for how it tells it. The game’s harsh open world, which adds to its strengths, and fleshes out its narrative prowess in a way that open world games have rarely been able to do so far, gorgeous graphics, its incredibly flawed characters that we still couldn’t help but love, and its sheer depth all come together to craft one of the most powerfully affecting games yet.

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But who will emerge victorious in this clash of titans? Will it be Japan, or will it be the West? Let's settle this question once and for all.

System Wars- which is the greatest RPG of all time? Chrono Trigger, your highester voted JRPG, or The Witcher 3, your highest voted WRPG? Vote now!

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#51 ConanTheStoner
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@zeeshanhaider said:

lol putting any JRPG against Witcher 3.

BOOM. It starts.

Finally lol

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#52 Jag85
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@charizard1605 said:

God damn it, man, Witcher 3 is almost at 50%.

This is why counting votes will always be superior to polls lol.

True, especially after Undertale won "Best Game Ever" at the GameFAQs polls.

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#53 SolidButtCheakS
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Jesus, how does Witcher 3 have almost have the votes? How does Witcher 3 even get to go up against Chrono Trigger? WHAT THE HELL GUYZ?

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#54  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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@Jag85 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:

This is why counting votes will always be superior to polls lol.

True, especially after Undertale won "Best Game Ever" at the GameFAQs polls.

Man I actually enjoyed that though. The fucking man tears over at GameFaqs were unreal. I spent an afternoon just reading the various threads of OoT fans losing their shit.

Entertainment at its finest, I don't expect any similar meltdowns here.

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#55  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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Ha, TW3 at 53%

That was a damn quick jump. O_o

Edit: Now it's going up a percent with each page refresh. I sense some alt spam brehs.

Edit again: WOW. So in 7 minutes time, TW3 jumped 18% haha. And then it flatlined.

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#56 quakeknight1991
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@zeeshanhaider said:

lol putting any JRPG against Witcher 3.

Well for starters Chrono Trigger has much better combat mechanics then any Witcher game ever had. Even though The Witcher 3 is indeed a great game, its insanely overrated. There is absolutely no way it is the best wrpg of all time. As for Chrono Trigger, even though for me personally it is far from being the best JRPG ever I can understand why it is for some people.

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#57 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Holy shit, what the hell? TW3 is leading? I did not expect this

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#58 quakeknight1991
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@khoofia_pika said:

Holy shit, what the hell? TW3 is leading? I did not expect this

It really is not suprising , most people in System wars most likely did not even touch Chorno Trigger. It is very clear from the "best wrpg ever" poll that most people here started playing videogames very recently.

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#59 ConanTheStoner
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@khoofia_pika said:

Holy shit, what the hell? TW3 is leading? I did not expect this

Kinda fishy. Out of nowhere it started going up a percent with each refresh, then it just stopped.

Could just be a bunch of TW3 fans making the morning rounds and casting a vote of course, but the pace was funny to see.

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#60 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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@ConanTheStoner: Just goes to show, votes > polls

I've made a huge mistake :p

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@quakeknight1991: It's the sudden spike in TW3's votes that surprises me. An hour ago CT was at 62% and all was well with the world. I come back online and BOOM, shit's about to hit the fan.

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#62 ConanTheStoner
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@khoofia_pika said:

@ConanTheStoner: Just goes to show, votes > polls

Haha, always man.

That said, you can bet your ass that some alt spammers with a hard on for CT will even out the odds.

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@ConanTheStoner: In a weird way, I'd actually like to see TW3 win this one, if only to see the massive shitstorm it would cause

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@khoofia_pika: Oh and it would lol. I won't lie, deep down, I'd have some traces of salt to deal with.

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#65 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Couldn't resist

@ConanTheStoner said:

@khoofia_pika: Oh and it would lol. I won't lie, deep down, I'd have some traces of salt to deal with.

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#66 Jag85
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Ha, TW3 at 53%

That was a damn quick jump. O_o

Edit: Now it's going up a percent with each page refresh. I sense some alt spam brehs.

Edit again: WOW. So in 7 minutes time, TW3 jumped 18% haha. And then it flatlined.

18% increase in just 7 minutes? Sounds very suspicious.

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@Jag85 said:

18% increase in just 7 minutes? Sounds very suspicious.

And then not a single vote in the past half hour since.

lulz.

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#68  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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This forum has lost its mind.

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@Berserker1_5 said:

Well all this topic will devolve to (which it already has) is the older gamers taking about CT as being better thanks to nostalgia and the current gamers choosing Witcher 3 because of The honeymoon phase (among other things)

This is why, these "best game ever" need time periods. Whether you guys here want to admit it or not, nostalgia definitely plays a huge part. I played CT many years after its release, I can imagine the game was really good at the time of its release but playing it in 2012is nothing special.

For me Witcher 3 wins it. Will Witcher 3 hold up as good as CT did? That's hard to say, I don't think I will play it in 2024, but then, I definitely won't forget it either. I like the game for what it did for RPG games. CT to me is something diehard nostalgic players like to shout out for

Completely agree here. Sometimes gamers over do it on the nostalgia front ( including me that i still believe Blood is the best fps game )

So it is Witcher 3 for me as well. I mean i loved my fallout 1 my Diablo 1 and 2 but i still think Witcher 3 is the best game . Will my opinion in 5-6 years after the initial impressions of W3 are gone change? Maybe but for now the excellent storytelling, characters, visually appealing world ,a decent combat system and a great OST make Witcher the best rpg i have played

To be fair to CT though i dont really like JRPG's that much and the 4-5hours i played CT probably didint do it any justice

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You know what, I've decided I'm fine with this. I want to witness the explosions :D

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#71  Edited By Sollet
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Chrono Trigger easily for me. Best RPG ever IMO.

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#72 AcidTango
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Haven't played Witcher 3 yet so I can't have an opinion about it. But why have Chrono Trigger vs Witcher 3?

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Never played Chrono Trigger, but it'd have to be pretty special to beat Witcher for me.

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Noooooooooo Chorno Trigger must win. I hate SW. :'(

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@khoofia_pika said:

You know what, I've decided I'm fine with this. I want to witness the explosions :D

Do vote instead of polls.

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#76  Edited By MirkoS77
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The fact that W3 is currently winning doesn't take into consideration a variety of factors. Many probably haven't played CT, and even if many have, it's difficult to equate CT's impact and accomplishments today against when it was released, whereas W3 relatively just came out.

You can't blame people for voting by the biases that their time and circumstances have imposed. Just the same for those of us who grew up with CT, as quality as it may be, we are nevertheless viewing it through a heavy lens of nostalgia and many other elements that we're not even conscious of.

I wouldn't lose faith in the forum, I would just recognize the results of this poll for what they truly represent.

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@khoofia_pika: Greatest RPG of all the time >>> EarthBound Vs. Undertale

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#78  Edited By EndlessOcean
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Witcher 3- amazing writing, full of deep and interesting characters, fun combat, fantastic! music, beautiful open world. The only downside is the mediocre main story, which is the reason why it isn't my all-time favourite rpg. Still better than any jrpg I ever played.

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#79  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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@quakeknight1991 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

lol putting any JRPG against Witcher 3.

Well for starters Chrono Trigger has much better combat mechanics then any Witcher game ever had. Even though The Witcher 3 is indeed a great game, its insanely overrated. There is absolutely no way it is the best wrpg of all time. As for Chrono Trigger, even though for me personally it is far from being the best JRPG ever I can understand why it is for some people.

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#80  Edited By Sweetbackhair
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I never played Chrono Trigger and my friend keeps on telling me to play it.

I really liked The Witcher 3, so you know what I voted for.

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#81  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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Disagree with those who say that praising old games = nostalgia. A lot of people still play old games, and still love them after replaying them. They experience the game again instead of just having these so called "memories" of them..

Some play them for the first time after several years of their release and still prefer them over some of the new games.

This nostalgia theory fails 95% of the time. Yes, sometimes there are cases of nostalgia, but mostly this is just a bad way to downplay something.

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Chrono Trigger by far.

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#83  Edited By quakeknight1991
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@zeeshanhaider said:
@quakeknight1991 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

lol putting any JRPG against Witcher 3.

Well for starters Chrono Trigger has much better combat mechanics then any Witcher game ever had. Even though The Witcher 3 is indeed a great game, its insanely overrated. There is absolutely no way it is the best wrpg of all time. As for Chrono Trigger, even though for me personally it is far from being the best JRPG ever I can understand why it is for some peop

What is there to believe ? Even though its true that the Witcher series has improved their combat mechanics with each game, the witcher 3 still has very shallow combat mechanics with very little variety and options. You can literally beat everything in the game by just mindlessly using quen sign and spamming fast attack.

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@Cloud_imperium said:

Disagree with those who say that praising old games = nostalgia. A lot of people still play old games, and still love them after replaying them. They experience the game again instead of just having these so called "memories" of them..

Some play them for the first time after several years of their release and still prefer them over some of the new games.

This nostalgia theory fails 95% of the time. Yes, sometimes there are cases of nostalgia, but mostly this is just a bad way to downplay something.

Well it goes the other way around also. There are a lot of people that say those who praise Witcher are kids and new gamers and the rest of them did it because W3 impressions are still fresh and the whole amazement will go away with time. A lot of people including me have been playing games for decades including playing countless great RPG's from the past ( baldurs gate, Diablo , fallout 1 and 2 and the list goes on ) yet the Witcher 3 felt like an equal or even a better game even if you dont factor the amazing graphics. Storytelling, characters, OST are top notch in W3. Add to that imo the most compelling video game world i have witness in a game and W3 stands up there with the best of all time

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I'm not done with The Witcher 3 yet, not even close, but I know my vote has to go to Chrono Trigger.

The charm and the simplicity push it over for me. I first played the game on DS and really enjoyed it. It's not one of my favorites of all time or anything, but I enjoyed it a lot.

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I don't like Witcher 3 and never played Chrono Trigger

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#87  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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Chrono Trigger for the uninitiated.

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well well well, My prediction came true. After waking up, I find Witcher 3 in lead. And what happens? Plenty of posters are accused of never playing CT and some even admiting

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Bleh, it seems there was a similar thread about The Last Of Us after it's mad praise, that thing was unstoppable in polls for months. Couple of years later it's an aiight game according to this forum. The fact this is being compared to a 20+ year old game says alot about the quality of that 20+ yo game.

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@bobrossperm: there is a big difference, last of us had a much small audience and last for a few months.

It's nearly a full year for Witcher 3

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The "honeymoon period" argument is a little overstated here and frankly lazy. When it comes to genres like RPGs, technology matters.

The Witcher 3 is the culmination of years of progress. It's RPG elements are not as deep as some games but in terms of the world created and the scale of pretty much everything it deserves its place at the very top of the tree, simply because we can now do things we couldn't dream of before.

I know there will be froth mouthed imbeciles insisting that the game is utter trash because everything that doesn't meet their very specific approval is the worst thing ever but I don't care about these people. The facts are this game has the approval of many and it deserves it.

Did Chrono trigger not have a honeymoon period? And what about after that?

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#92 BobRossPerm
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@Berserker1_5 said:

@bobrossperm: there is a big difference, last of us had a much small audience and last for a few months.

It's nearly a full year for Witcher 3

The Last of Us has sold more than 11 million units on PS3 and PS4. It's still selling well today due to word of mouth. I don't expect The Witcher 3 to come close to those sales numbers. Potential audience means nothing, who plays it means much more.

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Damn this is closer than I thought it would be

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@aigis said:

Damn this is closer than I thought it would be

Thought everyone would pick chrono trigger because of nostalgia.

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#95 aigis
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@altivera said:
@aigis said:

Damn this is closer than I thought it would be

Thought everyone would pick chrono trigger because of nostalgia.

I'm thinking its going to be witcher because its new

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#96 KratosYOLOSwag
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This poll LOL 49% - 51%

Voted Chrono Trigger, it's one of those games that I'd never get tired of coming back to while with The Witcher 3 I'm done after a playthrough (and the DLC of course).

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#97 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Chrono Trigger is back in the lead- but only just.

lulz

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#98  Edited By Berserker1_5
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@charizard1605: if this thread gets more exposure, it will be Witcher 3 that wins

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#99 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Berserker1_5 said:

@charizard1605: if this thread gets more exposure, it will be Witcher 3 that wins

I don't care either way anymore. My initial impressions about Chrono Trigger dominating this poll were clearly wrong.

So now I'm more in this for the lulz and the heaps and heaps of the ensuing salt.

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Apples v. Oranges